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(Hartford Courant)   Woman wins $258,000 lawsuit against Kohl's for injuries suffered when the wheels on her shopping cart stopped suddenly   (courant.com) divider line 146
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2011-04-30 09:31:30 PM
www.enfamy.com

She just waltzes in there, and becomes the queen of the carts. What the fark does she think I'm supposed to do? Go down to E.I. Hey there, yeah, I haul shopping carts out of ponds and sell them back to the store for a living, I've been doing it for eighteen years, so give me a farking check please. That's not gonna farking happen. I haven't been paying into U.I., E.I. or whatever the fark there calling it these days.
 
2011-04-30 10:06:41 PM
Over in one.

/don't look at Phil's gut
 
2011-04-30 10:21:49 PM

"The shopping carts in use when [Suits] was injured were poorly designed, using plastic furniture-style caster wheels


As opposed to the shopping carts that use a different kind of wheel?
 
2011-04-30 10:24:24 PM
Yay for Bubbles!

With those kind of injuries I'd almost expect her to have taken a ride down the upscilator
 
2011-05-01 01:18:06 AM

doglover: "The shopping carts in use when [Suits] was injured were poorly designed, using plastic furniture-style caster wheels

As opposed to the shopping carts that use a different kind of wheel?


I'd love to see what the shopping cart in this case looked like before and after.
 
2011-05-01 01:18:55 AM
The Willimantic jury awarded the damages Friday to Alice Mae Suits, a retired school social worker who was hospitalized in April 2007 as a result of the injuries she suffered when the wheels on a cart she was pushing stopped and the cart "sheared off the front of her shins," said her lawyer, David W. Cooney of RisCassi and Davis law firm in Hartford.

Suits, 78, of Storrs, suffered facial lacerations, leg lacerations and leg hematomas - a collection of pooled blood in a small area of the lower leg that required extensive surgery and skin grafting, according to court documents. She was 74 at the time.


Where the fark was she shopping, Thunderdome?
 
2011-05-01 01:21:01 AM
Oh fark! Chinese cart, a woman named Suits. Sounds fake as hell.
 
2011-05-01 01:22:23 AM
jesus! that's some injuries just banging her shins on a plastic shopping cart and "falling" to the ground! how was was she walking w/ it?!
 
2011-05-01 01:22:54 AM
I call "shinanigans"...
 
2011-05-01 01:23:48 AM

Mentat: Where the fark was she shopping, Thunderdome?


How much you want to bet she's at least borderline obese?
 
2011-05-01 01:27:17 AM

GoldSpider: Mentat: Where the fark was she shopping, Thunderdome?

How much you want to bet she's at least borderline obese?


Dude, I'm fat AND a total klutz and yet I still manage to use a shopping cart without injuring myself.
 
2011-05-01 01:27:38 AM

janzee: I call "shinanigans"...



Looks like she barked up the right tree.
 
2011-05-01 01:28:47 AM
Oh please! It was a freaking Kohl's cart, it's like a frigging laundry basket with wheels, not a Sherman Tank all metal supermarket cart.
i.imgur.com

I smell insurance scam.
 
2011-05-01 01:31:22 AM
The grocery stores here install security mechanisms in the cart that can cause the wheels to lock if you don't walk past a cash-register on the way out of the store.

It doesn't seem to apply to registers at the pharmacy.

When the wheel jams, it feels like you've pushed the cart into a wall. Especially if you're in a hurry. In my case, it was hard enough to make my toddler cry.
 
2011-05-01 01:33:26 AM
WTF. Geeez. Maybe she rode the thing down the escalator(moving stairs).
 
2011-05-01 01:34:58 AM

Emnitikcits: The grocery stores here install security mechanisms in the cart that can cause the wheels to lock if you don't walk past a cash-register on the way out of the store.

It doesn't seem to apply to registers at the pharmacy.

When the wheel jams, it feels like you've pushed the cart into a wall. Especially if you're in a hurry. In my case, it was hard enough to make my toddler cry.


They also have shopping carts that have the wheels lock if you take them too far out into the parking lot. This prevents the wagons from being left in the neighborhood or as a bum's storage unit
 
2011-05-01 01:35:23 AM
Reasonable settlement. Sounds like the poor old lady got hurt pretty bad. Multiple skin grafts ain't cheap.

/southernsavers.com - spend 15 minutes and learn how to cut your groceries 75% at kroger, walgreens, and publix. Learn the patterns. learn the pixels!
//for reals
///worth your time..
 
2011-05-01 01:35:45 AM
What would happen, if say, hypothetically, someone stalked and maimed this woman. (Think: Criminal Mayhem)

What if people interpreted this as a rebuke of tort-lottery justice?

What then, farkers?
 
2011-05-01 01:36:55 AM

2xhelix: I smell insurance scam.


Juries find in favor of insurance scams how often? This was a jury trial, per TFA.
 
2011-05-01 01:37:02 AM
Unless she had skin like tissue paper or the Kohls in other parts of the country make their shopping carts out of recycled saw blades or something I don't see how this could have happened as described.
 
2011-05-01 01:38:35 AM

Mentat: The Willimantic jury awarded the damages Friday to Alice Mae Suits, a retired school social worker who was hospitalized in April 2007 as a result of the injuries she suffered when the wheels on a cart she was pushing stopped and the cart "sheared off the front of her shins," said her lawyer, David W. Cooney of RisCassi and Davis law firm in Hartford.


2.bp.blogspot.com

I got MY shins blowed off by a Japan-Man's machine gun, so don't come cryin' to me with your problems!
 
2011-05-01 01:39:59 AM

Get Lost: Maybe she rode the thing down the escalator(moving stairs).


Maybe she rode it in the elevator (smallest room in the house).
 
2011-05-01 01:40:36 AM
This would make a great hook for an infomercial.

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2011-05-01 01:40:54 AM

Sinistar: Oh fark! Chinese cart, a woman named Suits. Sounds fake as hell.


The woman is 80 years old! You don't go hurting youself at that age to get a payday you might not make it back out of the hospital.
 
2011-05-01 01:41:23 AM
"Unless she had skin like tissue paper or the Kohls in other parts of the country make their shopping carts out of recycled saw blades or something I don't see how this could have happened as described."

Little old lady, skin of tissue paper, See also, Liebeck vs McDonalds.
 
2011-05-01 01:47:43 AM

2xhelix: I smell insurance scam.


Yes. And she got the doctors and jury in on it, too.
 
2011-05-01 01:48:50 AM
I don't understand why the wheels on these carts have to lock. They could just apply enough friction to make them unusable, without coming to a sudden and dangerous stop.
 
2011-05-01 01:49:27 AM
Finally, a reason to shoop at Kohl's.

Regards,

Joe
 
2011-05-01 01:49:33 AM

KimNorth: Sinistar: Oh fark! Chinese cart, a woman named Suits. Sounds fake as hell.

The woman is 80 years old! You don't go hurting youself at that age to get a payday you might not make it back out of the hospital.


80 year olds are also really bad at walking.

My grandmother fell at a store because she supposedly tripped over a tiny little crack in the floor. Really, she shuffles her feet when she walks so probably could have tripped anywhere. Broke her wrist, busted teeth out because she fell right on her face, broke her nose. Looked like she'd been punched in the face.

Mainly I think old people shouldn't be allowed to walk because it's apparently hazardous. You apparently forget how to walk correctly without tripping when you reach a certain age, not to mention you injure more easily. You or I probably would have been fine if a tiny kohls cart stopped, but incompetent old lady completely lacerates her legs on the cart, falls down, and gets a payout.
 
2011-05-01 01:49:43 AM
retired school social worker who was hospitalized in April 2007 as a result of the injuries she suffered when the wheels on a cart she was pushing stopped and the cart "sheared off the front of her shins,"

You know what? I have no sympathy for the store. You're pulling in a profit while exposing your customers to a dangerous environment. Pay. If it were some dude falling down while visiting his in-laws, it would be a different story, but this is a for-profit business and they need to at least not be hurting people while draining their wallets.
 
2011-05-01 01:50:25 AM
I actually agree with this. The injuries were well documented, she suffered horrible injuries because of her age (if it was me I would have been cut badly but I would have been fine) and most of money is probably going to medical bills. Besides if this will get stories to fix their fuc*ing wobbly carts for once this is a good thing.
 
2011-05-01 01:52:42 AM
Came here for Cotton Hill. Leaving happy. Hank's wife, fix me some supper and fetch my shin jelly.
 
2011-05-01 01:53:22 AM

Notabunny: 2xhelix: I smell insurance scam.

Yes. And she got the doctors and jury in on it, too.


Juries are made up of people too stupid to be able to get out of jury duty.

/doctors aren't always that smart either, sweet cheeks

//jury duty actually ain't that bad; it's a somewhat nice 3 day break from work
 
2011-05-01 01:54:23 AM
Juries are made up from the general population, which, as the superior intellects here all know, is pretty farkin' stupid. Add in the fact that gainfully employed persons often avoid service on hardship grounds, and you're likely to end up with a whole bunch of unemployed derp in the jury box. Invite said panel to give away someone else's money. For the coup de grace, blend in a sympathetic plaintiff. Voila. Excessive, unjustified verdict. Welcome to 'Merica.
 
2011-05-01 01:55:06 AM
injuries she suffered when the wheels on a cart she was pushing stopped and the cart "sheared off the front of her shins," said her lawyer, David W. Cooney of RisCassi and Davis law firm in Hartford.

Suits, 78, of Storrs, suffered facial lacerations, leg lacerations and leg hematomas - a collection of pooled blood in a small area of the lower leg that required extensive surgery and skin grafting, according to court documents. She was 74 at the time.


I don't comprehend how those injuries are possible in the incident described.
 
2011-05-01 01:57:10 AM

ambercat: Unless she had skin like tissue paper or the Kohls in other parts of the country make their shopping carts out of recycled saw blades or something I don't see how this could have happened as described.


Imagine what a cart like that would do to your junk if a wheel suddenly jammed!!
 
2011-05-01 01:58:12 AM

stiletto_the_wise: You know what? I have no sympathy for the store. You're pulling in a profit while exposing your customers to a dangerous environment. Pay. If it were some dude falling down while visiting his in-laws, it would be a different story, but this is a for-profit business and they need to at least not be hurting people while draining their wallets.


I have no sympathy for the store, but if you think they end up paying for in the end you're likely wrong. They're insured for that kind of stuff, which is included in their costs, not to mention I'm sure they can write off at least a portion. You and I pay for it in the end in various ways.
 
2011-05-01 01:58:54 AM
But for the wheels being negligently maintained, she doesn't get hurt, therefore they pay.
 
2011-05-01 01:59:06 AM
I don't understand why Kohl's has shopping carts to begin with.

If you're there for clothes, use your arms. If you're there for anything else, you're a cheap fark buying mostly sub par quality items that you could probably get cheaper even with all of the Khol's discounts and sales they do.

/he says as most of his apartment is filled with goods bought from kohl's
//I buy my own clothes, everything else is gifts.
 
2011-05-01 02:01:04 AM

stiletto_the_wise: You know what? I have no sympathy for the store. You're pulling in a profit while exposing your customers to a dangerous environment. Pay. If it were some dude falling down while visiting his in-laws, it would be a different story, but this is a for-profit business and they need to at least not be hurting people while draining their wallets.



According to the plaintiff's attorney...

The shopping carts in use when [Suits] was injured were poorly designed, using plastic furniture-style caster wheels that would cause the carts to suddenly jam and stop

The jury obviously agreed. To me, the biggest question is whether Kohls knew their carts had this problem. If they didn't, the jury award seems unjustified.

If they were aware of the problem, they must have anticipated that eventually someone would get hurt. Then, they made an economic decision that the savings on carts would outweigh the potential of a successful lawsuit.

I wonder how that turned out for them.
 
2011-05-01 02:01:31 AM

Gunderson: Emnitikcits: The grocery stores here install security mechanisms in the cart that can cause the wheels to lock if you don't walk past a cash-register on the way out of the store.

It doesn't seem to apply to registers at the pharmacy.

When the wheel jams, it feels like you've pushed the cart into a wall. Especially if you're in a hurry. In my case, it was hard enough to make my toddler cry.

They also have shopping carts that have the wheels lock if you take them too far out into the parking lot. This prevents the wagons from being left in the neighborhood or as a bum's storage unit


And I've had one of those activate and go immobile while pushing it down the middle of the supermarket aisle. Just abandoned it and got a new one.

Dang, should have sued.
 
2011-05-01 02:03:04 AM
None of the kohl's I've been to even have regular supermarket shopping carts. Is this kohl's using some sort of nonstandard kohl's cart?



They look like this, so I'm really wondering about the logistics of her fall. It's just a frame with some rounded metal bars, how the hell do you lacerate yourself to the bone on that?
 
2011-05-01 02:04:51 AM

2xhelix: Oh please! It was a freaking Kohl's cart, it's like a frigging laundry basket with wheels, not a Sherman Tank all metal supermarket cart.


Wow! Kohl's sells irregular and overstock kids too?
 
2011-05-01 02:06:25 AM
Like this, damnit.



Just a metal frame, and cloth.

Flragnararch: If you're there for clothes, use your arms.

Throw a couple of shirts, ties, pants, and maybe a jacket, and that shiat gets heavy, especially when you're carrying it by the hangers.
 
2011-05-01 02:07:25 AM

thenateman: The jury obviously agreed. To me, the biggest question is whether Kohls knew their carts had this problem. If they didn't, the jury award seems unjustified.


I'd guess that they didn't know it, looking at the small payout. IF they knowingly set up a dangerous environment, they'd be paying millions in punitive damages, and rightly so.
 
2011-05-01 02:07:45 AM

Flragnararch: I don't understand why Kohl's has shopping carts to begin with.

If you're there for clothes, use your arms. If you're there for anything else, you're a cheap fark buying mostly sub par quality items that you could probably get cheaper even with all of the Khol's discounts and sales they do.

/he says as most of his apartment is filled with goods bought from kohl's
//I buy my own clothes, everything else is gifts.


Yeah, well, you're not a woman with some money to spend.

Seriously, I'm supposed to carry a huge pile of clothes, shoes, etc. for however long I'm in there (at least a couple of hours probably)? Only other option is leaving it at the desk.
Well I guess I could have my husband carry some of it, because he just LOVES going clothes/shoes shopping with me.
 
2011-05-01 02:08:58 AM
www.lordargent.com

/how damned small does an image have to be these days, sheesh.
 
2011-05-01 02:10:20 AM
That's it! I'm livid! All these people robbing, stealing, scamming the world blind and all I want is a farking car. I don't even care what kind it is, ANY will do (No Chryler, Pontiac, or GMC please). All I want is my share. Where's my scam?

WHERE IS MY MUTHAFARKING SCAM
 
2011-05-01 02:10:53 AM

stiletto_the_wise: thenateman: The jury obviously agreed. To me, the biggest question is whether Kohls knew their carts had this problem. If they didn't, the jury award seems unjustified.

I'd guess that they didn't know it, looking at the small payout. IF they knowingly set up a dangerous environment, they'd be paying millions in punitive damages, and rightly so.


You're probably right. The award probably covered her lawyers' fees, extensive surgery and skin grafting plus not much else.
 
2011-05-01 02:15:55 AM
*ANY* cart will suddenly jam like that if you hit a right-shaped bit of debris. While I agree the award is for medical costs I'm still not sure about it--if you're going to fall when your cart jams the real problem is that you can't walk well enough in the first place.

As for the anti-theft systems, I've only had one trigger once. It went off at the edge of the area in front of the store--but this was a strip mall and the parking in front of that store is pretty skimpy. If it's at all busy you have to park in the next line or two of spaces--perfectly ordinary strip mall behavior. Oops--the cart jams right in the middle of the driving area! Wonderful design, guys!
 
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