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(Daily Mail)   Scientist claims he's discovered how the Grand Canyon was formed. His diagrams and pictures are simply gorges   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 67
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2011-04-29 04:20:51 AM  
Okay, I almost always hate puns with a irrational fury, but that was clever.
 
2011-04-29 04:30:34 AM  
water?
 
2011-04-29 04:34:45 AM  
Geological mystery: New seismological data has revealed an anomalous structure beneath the surface which may have helped create the Grand Canyon

celluloidtongue.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-04-29 06:09:08 AM  
Professor Levander's believes this 'mantle drip' happened in the last six million years, making it the most recent anomaly in the Colorado Plateau, a finding which could help pinpoint the age of the Grand Canyon.

He told Amazing Planet: 'There are generally two schools of thought on the age of the Grand Canyon - one is that it formed in the last six million or seven million years, and the other is that it has a much longer history as a canyon...

'Our results suggest it's the younger date that's more accurate.'


Its even more young than that.
 
2011-04-29 06:23:55 AM  

Petit_Merdeux: Geological mystery: New seismological data has revealed an anomalous structure beneath the surface which may have helped create the Grand Canyon


So the Colorado River is really the Idaho River and the mescaline is really spice and Puebloans are really Fremen?
Actually makes sense.

/learned a new word, Puebloans
 
2011-04-29 06:27:55 AM  
Paul Bunyan made it when he dragged his axe, everyone knows that, duh.
 
2011-04-29 06:40:55 AM  
Did subby spend some time in Ithaca?
 
2011-04-29 07:01:18 AM  
News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.
 
2011-04-29 07:05:22 AM  

Tommy Moo: Did subby spend some time in Ithaca?

This.
 
2011-04-29 07:17:23 AM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christiansflat earthers knewmistakenly believed all along.

 
2011-04-29 07:21:30 AM  
Did Chuck Norris have anything to do with it?

/DNRTFA
 
2011-04-29 07:58:11 AM  

Bevets:
Its even more young than that.


Bevets here is right. The earth was created last tuesday. Any evidence you think you see to the contrary is because 1) god set it up that way and 2) the devil is trying to make you not believe in god.

My god demands your faith. Otherwise she will be very pissed.
 
2011-04-29 07:59:25 AM  
It's funny that the self-correcting nature of science is used by the superstitious as proof that their primitive, static views are the truth.

At least it would be if it wasn't so sad.
 
2011-04-29 08:00:33 AM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.


That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.
 
2011-04-29 08:15:09 AM  
darkyn:

It's funny that the self-correcting nature of science is used by atheists as proof that their primitive, static views are the truth.

At least it would be if it wasn't so sad.
 
2011-04-29 08:20:14 AM  

Bevets: darkyn:

It's funny that the self-correcting nature of science is used by atheists as proof that their primitive, static views are the truth.

At least it would be if it wasn't so sad.


I know you didn't get the memo, also you probably can't read the memo, but science and religion are not mutually exclusive. However, if you plug your fingers into your ears and go 'la la la la la' you'll never hear any of this!
 
2011-04-29 08:20:19 AM  
HOW IS CANYON FORMED?
 
2011-04-29 08:23:12 AM  

INeedAName: I know you didn't get the memo, also you probably can't read the memo, but science and religion are not mutually exclusive.


I didn't actually say that they were but rational and irrational are diametrically opposed.
 
2011-04-29 08:26:05 AM  

INeedAName: Bevets: darkyn:

It's funny that the self-correcting nature of science is used by atheists as proof that their primitive, static views are the truth.

At least it would be if it wasn't so sad.

I know you didn't get the memo, also you probably can't read the memo, but science and religion are not mutually exclusive. However, if you plug your fingers into your ears and go 'la la la la la' you'll never hear any of this!


Science and Young Earth Creationism are mutually exclusive, however. YECs reject any scientific findings that contradict their inane Biblical literalism.

Many Christians of the Enlightenment viewed science as a way of peering into the mind of God. They felt that understanding the way the universe worked in all of its complexity brought us closer to understanding the majesty of God. YECs see science as a threat to their faith because science constantly shows that the Bible is not a perfect historical account of the world.

In short, YECs are morons.
 
2011-04-29 08:36:25 AM  

Ed Grubermann: In short, YECs are morons.


Sure, a science-loving fascist like you would say that.

If the Earth is so old, how do you explain it isn't covered in miles worth of space dust^ or the ridiculous lack of supernovae remnants^ we would otherwise observe?
 
2011-04-29 08:48:54 AM  

Ed Grubermann: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.


Wasn't there some more recent theory about a giant lake quickly draining and carving a big chunk of it?

I think I saw a guy talking about that on on How the Earth Was Made.

\Not big on geology, don't really keep track of this stuff.
\\Certainly no expert.
 
2011-04-29 08:55:40 AM  

Feepit: If the Earth is so old, how do you explain it isn't covered in miles worth of space dust^ or the ridiculous lack of supernovae remnants^ we would otherwise observe?


I'm going to be sorry for this aren't I?

We have active geological processes here on the earth so our crust is constantly being recycled. As yes, while we do get a lot of space dust entering our atmosphere every year, the particles are so fine that it can take years for it to fall through our upper atmosphere.

I don't quite understand why you think we have a lack of supernovae remnants when you consider that every element the comes after iron and up to uranium was formed in a supernova and has been found on the earth. Granted since they are heavy elements, they tend to sink to the core of the earth or deep within the lithosphere where it take take a billion or so years for it to be caught up in a geological process that raises the element to the crust.

I suggest you read more St. Augustine:

It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.

- De Genesi ad literam 1:19-20, Chapt. 19 [408]
 
2011-04-29 08:58:20 AM  

Dicky B: Paul Bunyan made it when he dragged his axe, everyone knows that, duh.


you beat me to it!
 
2011-04-29 09:00:10 AM  
This idiot obviously doesn't know that the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood.

And if you don't believe that, then you're an idiot who can't see facts when they're right in front of you. Think: put different types of sand in a bottle and fill it with water. Now shake the bottle. The dirt settles in layers, just like in the Grand Canyon.

QED!

farm2.static.flickr.com

/People actually believe this.
 
2011-04-29 09:05:29 AM  

spcMike: I'm going to be sorry for this aren't I?


:)

/proof is in the links
 
2011-04-29 09:05:59 AM  
The FSM created the Grand Canyon, and anyone who disagrees is clearly ignorant of the facts.

Spaghetti is layered: first the noodles, then the sauce and finally the cheese on the top. The Grand Canyon is also layered. QED

If we dig deep enough we'll find the sauce (magma?), and dig even deeper than that and we'll find the core of delicious noodles.
 
2011-04-29 09:13:37 AM  

The Florida Tag: This idiot obviously doesn't know that the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood.

And if you don't believe that, then you're an idiot who can't see facts when they're right in front of you. Think: put different types of sand in a bottle and fill it with water. Now shake the bottle. The dirt settles in layers, just like in the Grand Canyon.

QED!



/People actually believe this.


I want to go there someday, but I have a feeling I would get in a fight, get arrested or both.
 
2011-04-29 09:13:45 AM  
www.wrestlingmuseum.com
approves
 
2011-04-29 09:35:20 AM  
Documentary on formation of Grand Canyon

Link
 
2011-04-29 09:39:33 AM  
The Grand Canyon formed by massive uprisings. This grand Canyon formed massive uprisings:

forums.klipsch.com
 
2011-04-29 09:49:22 AM  
I knew this would be a fun thread. The fundies are coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches.

/RAID!
 
2011-04-29 09:54:57 AM  

StrangeQ: The Florida Tag: This idiot obviously doesn't know that the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood.

And if you don't believe that, then you're an idiot who can't see facts when they're right in front of you. Think: put different types of sand in a bottle and fill it with water. Now shake the bottle. The dirt settles in layers, just like in the Grand Canyon.

QED!



/People actually believe this.

I want to go there someday, but I have a feeling I would get in a fight, get arrested or both.


That would probably be worth it.
 
2011-04-29 09:56:31 AM  

Bevets: darkyn:

It's funny that the self-correcting nature of science is used by atheists as proof that their primitive, static views are the truth.

At least it would be if it wasn't so sad.


Do you not realize how absurd that statement is? Yes, I get that you're trying to take darkyn's words and turn them around on him, but...

Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.
 
2011-04-29 10:03:17 AM  
So he figured out which one of the two biblical flood stories is right?
 
2011-04-29 10:40:55 AM  
Scientist claims he's discovered how the Grand Canyon was formed.

Rosie O'Donnell dropped her spoon?
 
2011-04-29 10:48:23 AM  

nekom: HOW IS CANYON FORMED?

Thanks, you saved me the trouble.

/HOW LAND GET CARVD
 
2011-04-29 10:58:38 AM  
Farking erosion, how does it work?
 
2011-04-29 11:17:17 AM  

maddogdelta: here is right. The earth was created last tuesday. Any evidence you think you see to the contrary is


farking Heretic!!! It was formed last Thursday!
 
2011-04-29 11:24:56 AM  
"It's a giant canyon in the middle of the desert."

"You can't explain that."
 
2011-04-29 11:30:44 AM  
I was pleasantly surprised by the article.

Interesting hypothesis he has there.
 
2011-04-29 11:43:21 AM  

Free Radical: "It's a giant canyon in the middle of the desert."

"You can't explain that."


Water goes up, canyon goes down. Never a miscommunication.
 
2011-04-29 12:03:37 PM  

amindtat: The Grand Canyon formed by massive uprisings. This grand Canyon formed massive uprisings:


Good lord. I wonder if she even knows how many guys started with her.
 
2011-04-29 12:30:12 PM  
I always heard it involved a Semite, a Nickle, and a gopher hole.
 
2011-04-29 12:37:28 PM  
www.diapasoncreative.com
Went to school there.
It's true.

Until you see your prof skinny-dipping in the resevoir.
 
2011-04-29 12:58:02 PM  

Ed Grubermann: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.


You honestly don't know if the person you responded to is a troll or not?
 
2011-04-29 01:22:30 PM  

picturescrazy: Ed Grubermann: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.

You honestly don't know if the person you responded to is a troll or not?


I know he's a troll. The real creationist idiot in here is on my ignore list. My points still stand, regardless of the honesty of the person I'm responding to.
 
2011-04-29 01:35:46 PM  

Zombie Hitler: amindtat: The Grand Canyon formed by massive uprisings. This grand Canyon formed massive uprisings:

Good lord. I wonder if she even knows how many guys started with her.


Who is that? Must. Know. Moar.
 
2011-04-29 01:59:31 PM  

Spaghetti Eatin' Goombah: Zombie Hitler: amindtat: The Grand Canyon formed by massive uprisings. This grand Canyon formed massive uprisings:

Good lord. I wonder if she even knows how many guys started with her.

Who is that? Must. Know. Moar.


Christy Canyon.
 
2011-04-29 02:00:55 PM  
My ex- tripped.
 
2011-04-29 02:22:22 PM  
It's a shame that Fark has become a forum for sophomoric and boring existential arguments - such argumetns are utterly pointless.

This is actually a pretty interesting result.

And BTW, the Colorado Plateau has some of the highest rates of erosion of anywhere on Earth. I know that's counter-intuitive for some people, since it's a desert and all...well, techincally it's mostly semi-arid, with the mountain ranges collecting huge amounts of snowpack every winter. Uh, that would be where the stupendous amounts of water in the Colorado River come from, of course. As much as 400,000cfs in wet years during the peak of the Spring runoff pulse.

Flash-flood erosion on the Colorado Plateau:

Link (new window)

Link (new window)
 
2011-04-29 02:28:00 PM  
I always enjoy how the many layers of the grand canyon were deposited in a flood. As if to suggest that they would be deposited everywhere nicely except the giant canyon thing, and it just so happens to be where the river is.

I mean really I am surprised they bother even suggesting an actual physical process is responsible. Should just say that the mighty hand of God himself carved that gorge with a spoon.

Idiots
 
2011-04-29 02:43:36 PM  

Goodpancakes: I always enjoy how the many layers of the grand canyon were deposited in a flood. As if to suggest that they would be deposited everywhere nicely except the giant canyon thing, and it just so happens to be where the river is.

I mean really I am surprised they bother even suggesting an actual physical process is responsible. Should just say that the mighty hand of God himself carved that gorge with a spoon.

Idiots


That's what happens when you try to prove your religion with science. You either end up realizing your religion is crap, or you twist the science into an unrecognizable farce to keep a hold on your faith. Some of the anti-evolution videos the creationists make for children are really scary. It's like they think the 9th Commandment doesn't apply to them because they are lying for Jesus.
 
2011-04-29 02:58:20 PM  
FTFA:

To discover why, he and a team of geologists analysed new data from the of mobile seismic stations known as the Earthscope Transportable Array

The observatory-quality seismographs were first set up in the West in 2004, and are moving across America in a ten-year project.


That's pretty cool. They are mapping the contenent over a ten year period. This is what I love about Science, this "Let's do more testing and exploring so we can understand what's really going on even better."

As opposed to, you know, ASSUMING WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
 
2011-04-29 03:09:36 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.


Something, I can't put my finger on it but I know it's there, is telling me that you are trolling me right now.
 
2011-04-29 03:11:36 PM  

Farker Soze: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

Something, I can't put my finger on it but I know it's there, is telling me that you are trolling me right now.


I dunno, I just can't quite wrap my mind around it.
 
2011-04-29 03:14:19 PM  
Geology is so farking awesome.
 
2011-04-29 03:28:04 PM  

Galactic_Empanada: Geology is so farking awesome ROCKS.

 
2011-04-29 03:39:30 PM  
It must be true, I read it in the Daily Mail.
 
2011-04-29 03:49:27 PM  

Bevets:

Its even more young than that.


And that's it. Thread over because Bevis says so.

Thank you almighty Bevis, for you are the Truth, the Light and the Way.

I understand now, and recant my heathen mis-livings and adopt your entire standpoint. I shall now lie like hell under the guise of religiosience and make the world a better place to troll in.

Just like you, Father. Now I shall Lead and preach to others your Gospel of Quote Mining, for it is truly the only Intelligently Designed form of Creation.

/amen
 
2011-04-29 04:23:03 PM  

yves0010: Dicky B: Paul Bunyan made it when he dragged his axe, everyone knows that, duh.

you beat me to it!



Heh, some people will believe anything. Here's what really happened. Link (new window)
 
2011-04-29 04:26:05 PM  
Christy Canyon? Really? I shall have to remember to GIS her as soon as I get out of my bunk.....er, I mean home from work.
 
2011-04-29 04:27:47 PM  

Bevets: Professor Levander's believes this 'mantle drip' happened in the last six million years, making it the most recent anomaly in the Colorado Plateau, a finding which could help pinpoint the age of the Grand Canyon.

He told Amazing Planet: 'There are generally two schools of thought on the age of the Grand Canyon - one is that it formed in the last six million or seven million years, and the other is that it has a much longer history as a canyon...

'Our results suggest it's the younger date that's more accurate.'

Its even more young than that.


It was created, along side everything else, last Thursday.
 
2011-04-29 07:42:28 PM  

Ed Grubermann: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.


Of course he's a troll; look at his name.
 
2011-04-29 08:10:03 PM  

Heron: Ed Grubermann: The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.

That the Flood carved it out in 5 minutes? Riiiight.

Regardless of whether you're serious, or just a troll, I find it hilarious that Creationists try to use the Grand Canyon as proof of the flood when it shows none of the signs of being carved by catastrophic flooding and all the signs of being the result of slow erosion. (You want to see what catastrophic flood damage looks like? Look up the Scablands (pops).)

Stop listening to idiots and liars like Kent Hovind. It's not helping your side.

Of course he's a troll; look at his name.


Really? No shiat? It's not like I didn't already address that over six hours ago.
 
2011-04-30 07:45:51 AM  
What, no your mom jokes?
 
2011-04-30 01:01:30 PM  

Bevets: Professor Levander's believes this 'mantle drip' happened in the last six million years, making it the most recent anomaly in the Colorado Plateau, a finding which could help pinpoint the age of the Grand Canyon.

He told Amazing Planet: 'There are generally two schools of thought on the age of the Grand Canyon - one is that it formed in the last six million or seven million years, and the other is that it has a much longer history as a canyon...

'Our results suggest it's the younger date that's more accurate.'

Its even more younger than that.


Your English is farking atrocious.
 
2011-05-03 12:20:55 AM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: News flash: scientist discovers that the Grand Canyon is younger than science thought.

Keep going, guys. The better the scientific research becomes, the closer the results get to what we Christians knew all along.


Either you say stuff that fits with your Fark handle, or you deliberately picked a Fark handle to fit with what you say.

/+1, regardless
 
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