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2011-04-28 10:28:28 AM  
Mmm, salted wine.
 
2011-04-28 10:41:05 AM  
To be fair, that red, red wine does go to one's head, makes them forget...
 
2011-04-28 11:22:13 AM  
This is why Republicans can still win elections.
 
2011-04-28 11:34:54 AM  
This is why Democrats can still win elections.
 
2011-04-28 11:35:49 AM  
Obvious tag got the day off?
 
2011-04-28 11:37:54 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: To be fair, that red, red wine does go to one's head, makes them forget...


It helps your blue blue heart.
 
2011-04-28 11:41:31 AM  
Yeah. They also think "organic" food is healthier, that fat is bad, and that grass-fed meat is healthier. Nutritional literacy should be mandatory in public schools.
 
2011-04-28 11:42:53 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutritional literacy should be mandatory in public schools


I agree, but at this point I'd settle for some basic "we didn't come from Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago" science education.
 
2011-04-28 11:44:28 AM  
Obvious tag must be hitting that salt wine pretty hard
 
2011-04-28 11:45:35 AM  
Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.
 
2011-04-28 11:47:05 AM  
Rufus Lee King Yeah, just look at those stupid Americans, what are they doing using EU plugs on their "American" appliances? That's crazy.

/Here's a hint, American outlets aren't round and recessed.
 
2011-04-28 11:47:49 AM  
Am I missing something?

"76% of Americans agree that red wine can be good for your heart." That's true, and therefore 76% of Americans are correct. Where does it say, "76% of Americans believe chugging a box of Franzia Burgundy every night is good for your heart." ? Americans are stupid, but the first paragraph of TFA is stupiderer.
 
2011-04-28 11:47:56 AM  
I don't know anyone that drinks wine for their heart, but maybe I just surround myself with alcoholics to make myself feel better about my stunning lack of self control when it comes to alcohol.

/Pino Noir ftw.
 
2011-04-28 11:49:33 AM  
Subby sucks for submitting article created by content mill.
 
2011-04-28 11:52:47 AM  
WTF? Who didn't have an article prepared and pulled this out of their ass?
 
2011-04-28 11:53:21 AM  

Trivia Jockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutritional literacy should be mandatory in public schools

I agree, but at this point I'd settle for some basic "we didn't come from Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago" science education.


True, that would be a good start.
 
2011-04-28 11:57:50 AM  

trappedspirit: WTF? Who didn't have an article prepared and pulled this out of their ass?


He has a file of them from HS/College, don't you?
 
2011-04-28 11:59:54 AM  

EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.


Also, there is Polish, or possibly Czech writing on the beer bottles.
 
2011-04-28 12:02:02 PM  
FirstNationalBastard: To be fair, that red, red wine does go to one's head, makes them forget...

I heart you.

AbbeySomeone: It helps your blue blue heart.

And you, too.

My work here is done.
 
2011-04-28 12:05:05 PM  
Has anyone pointed out how fun the comments about fermentation are?
 
2011-04-28 12:08:31 PM  
I'm trying to figure out how people think cottage cheese has low sodium. Bleagh.
 
2011-04-28 12:09:18 PM  

Rufus Lee King: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

ShawnDoc: Rufus Lee King Yeah, just look at those stupid Americans, what are they doing using EU plugs on their "American" appliances? That's crazy.

/Here's a hint, American outlets aren't round and recessed.

Kar98: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

Also, there is Polish, or possibly Czech writing on the beer bottles.

Ok, ok. Youse guys needn't hock me to China, or nothin'. I just found that image after a quick search, and did not analyze it that intensely. At any rate, I have to commend you for your powers of observation.


I didn't observe nothing. I just vaguely recalled some other thread where this meme was mercilessly slapped down.
 
2011-04-28 12:10:51 PM  

Rufus Lee King: Ok, ok. Youse guys needn't hock me to China, or nothin'. I just found that image after a quick search, and did not analyze it that intensely. At any rate, I have to commend you for your powers of observation.


As you should be commended on your lack of same.
 
2011-04-28 12:12:32 PM  

zomega: I'm trying to figure out how people think cottage cheese has low sodium. Bleagh.


It is not a healthy food choice.
 
2011-04-28 12:19:50 PM  

EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.


Plus the bottles of beer on the table look pretty good, so you know its not your typical white trash American.
 
2011-04-28 12:21:40 PM  

Rufus Lee King: ph0rk: Rufus Lee King: Ok, ok. Youse guys needn't hock me to China, or nothin'. I just found that image after a quick search, and did not analyze it that intensely. At any rate, I have to commend you for your powers of observation.

As you should be commended on your lack of same.

That's a good burn.

How old are you? Twelve?


So you expect to fark up with a snarky image like that and not to get insulted?
 
2011-04-28 12:24:08 PM  

MissDayJob: Americans are stupid, but the first paragraph of TFA is stupiderer.


oh and it continues
61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt.

by volume it does contain less sodium and I don't know anyone who weighs the salt they use so really the fact that sea salt and table salt have the same content by weight doesn't matter
 
2011-04-28 12:26:41 PM  

chitownmike: MissDayJob: Americans are stupid, but the first paragraph of TFA is stupiderer.

oh and it continues
61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt.

by volume it does contain less sodium and I don't know anyone who weighs the salt they use so really the fact that sea salt and table salt have the same content by weight doesn't matter


Sea salt means lots of stuff - some of it has some potassium and thus a bit less sodium.

Not "need to cut back on sodium before my heart explodes" less sodium, though.
 
2011-04-28 12:27:01 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutritional literacy education should be mandatory in public schools


FTFY.

Anericans are being conditioned to respond to a bland, watered-down "culture" filled with essentially mindless entertainments whose underlying message is "don't worry, be happy." Education is a sad joke in this country, not because teachers aren't trying, but because they are competing with a pop culture industry that spends billions more each year than our schools can afford. And the so-called "news media," those liberal swines, are as much a part of the problem as Justin Bieber, whatever that is.
 
2011-04-28 12:27:42 PM  

AbbeySomeone: zomega: I'm trying to figure out how people think cottage cheese has low sodium. Bleagh.

It is not a healthy food choice.


Yet it's in every diet under the sun. Even my OB said it'd be a great source of calcium. However, all that sodium made me go 'are you kidding me?'

...I'll just drink my carton of milk, get my Graeter's ice cream fix, and have some occasional colby jack, thanks.
 
2011-04-28 12:28:18 PM  

oldebayer: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutritional literacy education should be mandatory in public schools

FTFY.

Anericans are being conditioned to respond to a bland, watered-down "culture" filled with essentially mindless entertainments whose underlying message is "don't worry, be happy." Education is a sad joke in this country, not because teachers aren't trying, but because they are competing with a pop culture industry that spends billions more each year than our schools can afford. And the so-called "news media," those liberal swines, are as much a part of the problem as Justin Bieber, whatever that is.


For many, a nation with an educated public is a scary idea.
 
2011-04-28 12:31:43 PM  

Oztemprom: Has anyone pointed out how fun the comments about fermentation are?


Some people can't help but feed the trolls
 
2011-04-28 12:36:08 PM  
Yeah, well, 17% of us voted for George W. Bush. Twice.
 
2011-04-28 12:44:51 PM  

ph0rk: chitownmike: MissDayJob: Americans are stupid, but the first paragraph of TFA is stupiderer.

oh and it continues
61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt.

by volume it does contain less sodium and I don't know anyone who weighs the salt they use so really the fact that sea salt and table salt have the same content by weight doesn't matter

Sea salt means lots of stuff - some of it has some potassium and thus a bit less sodium.

Not "need to cut back on sodium before my heart explodes" less sodium, though.


I was trying to leave the chemical makeup of it out of the equation because you can take ten different sea salts and they will all be different. the point was that in practice less is used thus less sodium is consumed
 
2011-04-28 12:48:02 PM  

chitownmike: ph0rk: chitownmike: MissDayJob: Americans are stupid, but the first paragraph of TFA is stupiderer.

oh and it continues
61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt.

by volume it does contain less sodium and I don't know anyone who weighs the salt they use so really the fact that sea salt and table salt have the same content by weight doesn't matter

Sea salt means lots of stuff - some of it has some potassium and thus a bit less sodium.

Not "need to cut back on sodium before my heart explodes" less sodium, though.

I was trying to leave the chemical makeup of it out of the equation because you can take ten different sea salts and they will all be different. the point was that in practice less is used thus less sodium is consumed


Oh, could be. I think I've only ever had the cheap stuff which pretty much just tastes like salt to me.

OT: I keep morton's light salt (1/3 or 1/2 potassium or so) around to make hydration solution, and it tastes funny.
 
2011-04-28 12:49:11 PM  

trappedspirit: Oztemprom: Has anyone pointed out how fun the comments about fermentation are?

Some people can't help but feed the trolls


I mean, he's right by the straight up definition of the words, but wrong in the usage sent. In biology rot/decay is to break something down into component parts.

Usage of rot tends to imply that its useless or unsable; e.g. rotted wood
 
2011-04-28 12:49:36 PM  

chitownmike: by volume it does contain less sodium and I don't know anyone who weighs the salt they use so really the fact that sea salt and table salt have the same content by weight doesn't matter


Came here to say this. Would have said it first if i wasn't reading other links.

ph0rk: Sea salt means lots of stuff - some of it has some potassium and thus a bit less sodium.


Sea salt is also rated sometimes rated by its flavor and color. Any flavor other than "salty" and any color other than "-less" means there's less salt. Of course to get the same salty flavor you need a greater volume of it, and then you bring the sodium level right back up... but yeah.
 
2011-04-28 12:51:37 PM  
EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

It's also faked, it's been discussed on fark before.

Those plugs aren't recessed, they're missing.

www.linuxno.de
 
2011-04-28 12:53:46 PM  
Those plugs aren't recessed, they're missing.

Unless those are what they're actually supposed to look like, in which case, weirdest plug in the world?
 
2011-04-28 12:54:38 PM  

lordargent: Those plugs aren't recessed, they're missing.

Unless those are what they're actually supposed to look like, in which case, weirdest plug in the world?


Aren't those the funny euro two-prong plugs?
 
2011-04-28 12:54:52 PM  

Iblis824: trappedspirit: Oztemprom: Has anyone pointed out how fun the comments about fermentation are?

Some people can't help but feed the trolls

I mean, he's right by the straight up definition of the words, but wrong in the usage sent. In biology rot/decay is to break something down into component parts.

Usage of rot tends to imply that its useless or unsable; e.g. rotted wood


Fermentation is not breaking down into component parts.
 
2011-04-28 12:55:38 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

/hot
 
2011-04-28 01:00:03 PM  
"(61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt.)"
------

So the author is taking the position that sodium chloride mixed with filler elements contains the same amount of sodium as pure sodium chloride. Only if he's assuming unequal amounts...
 
2011-04-28 01:05:22 PM  

trappedspirit: Iblis824: trappedspirit: Oztemprom: Has anyone pointed out how fun the comments about fermentation are?

Some people can't help but feed the trolls

I mean, he's right by the straight up definition of the words, but wrong in the usage sent. In biology rot/decay is to break something down into component parts.

Usage of rot tends to imply that its useless or unsable; e.g. rotted wood

Fermentation is not breaking down into component parts.


True, its more akin to yeast pee than rot
 
2011-04-28 01:08:31 PM  

ph0rk: OT: I keep morton's light salt (1/3 or 1/2 potassium or so) around to make hydration solution, and it tastes funny.


I believe potassium contributes a bitter flavor.
 
2011-04-28 01:09:30 PM  
The type of socket used by the retards on the picture, used in a few european countries such as france, belgium etc:
upload.wikimedia.org

The type of socket in lordargen't picture, used in germany, scandinavia and a bunch of other countries:
upload.wikimedia.org

The plug used by pretty much everything in continental europe to be able to work with either type of socket above:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-04-28 01:09:46 PM  

EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

ShawnDoc: Rufus Lee King Yeah, just look at those stupid Americans, what are they doing using EU plugs on their "American" appliances? That's crazy.

/Here's a hint, American outlets aren't round and recessed.

Kar98: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

Also, there is Polish, or possibly Czech writing on the beer bottles.

Ok, ok. Youse guys needn't hock me to China, or nothin'. I just found that image after a quick search, and did not analyze it that intensely. At any rate, I have to commend you for your powers of observation.

I didn't observe nothing. I just vaguely recalled some other thread where this meme was mercilessly slapped down.


I was thinking those guys were demonstrating how awesome their non-electrocuting waterproof power strip was.
 
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2011-04-28 01:14:38 PM  
61% believed, incorrectly, that sea salt had less sodium than regular salt

If Wikipedia is to believed, it does. Sea salt has over 5% total magnesium, calcium, and potassium while table salt is over 97% sodium chloride.
 
2011-04-28 01:31:21 PM  
Oblig

www.lescoob.co.uk
 
2011-04-28 01:34:51 PM  

tricycleracer: Oblig


What's ironic about that meme is that the chick on the left is girl from Kentucky on vacation in south Florida, and the behemoth on the right is some woman from the UK.
 
2011-04-28 01:37:06 PM  
I was wondering about sea salt and sodium because I bought some reduced sodium salt (some of it is not sodium chloride, but another salt with magnesium rather than sodium).

It really should have less sodium per unit of weight if it contains other salts, like sea water does.

But then, sea salt is a scam any way.

Why would anybody want salt from the sea? The sea is a sewer. It has every chemical known to man and then some. It is full of critters and viruses. It has homeopathic doses of every homeopathic and allopathic medicine.

Of course, in order to avoid these, it is necessary to purify sea salt, in which case they may very well take out everything that is not sodium chloride, so that's probably the explanation.

But it doesn't explain why white people love sea salt. And it doesn't explain how homeopathy works, or why it fails to work.

Unless homeopathic medicine quacks have magical powers like those which allow priests to turn bread and water into the body and blood of Christ, a drop of sea water, mixed vigourously with a gallon of sterile water, ought to contain enough of everything (nothing) to cure whatever ails you, and cause it, and cure it again.

You ought to be able to cure everything that ails you with a sip of the stuff, properly diluted (or not).

Yet somehow the idea that homeopathic medicine is all around us--and free--has not occurred to True Believers.

And the idea that sea salt is just chunky salt, no different in any way from the smoothy salt that comes from salt mines, has not occurred to foodies and other lunatics.

It just goes to show that red wine and sea salt are magical substances and that you are quite right to be confused by them.

Chalk one up for the American public.

And while I am on the subject, grass-fed cattle should be healthier and therefore safer to eat than grain or garbage fed cattle.

Cattle were not meant to eat nothing but grain (and few do--it's used mainly for "finishing" them for butchering) and they certainly weren't meant to eat other cattle, sheep, roadkill, Hostess Twinkies(TM), fish meal, and all the other crap that industrial agricuture feeds to cattle. They were also mean to roam freely, out-of-doors, in the sun and the rain, on green pastures, and not to be locked in a small box full of their own manure and gallons of drugs administered to keep them "healthy" in the most unsanitary and disease-ridden conditions imaginable.

Sure, the meat might not really be any better nutritionally, but it won't be full of hormones, drugs and God wots not what. Not to mention the natural gas that goes into making fertilizer for all that forage.

If cattle are allowed to live free-range on natural pasture, it's healthier for the environment and the cattle. It should be heathier for you, even if you are not directly down wind from a cow factory or abattoir.

As for organic, the same thing applies: it's healthier for the environment to grow food naturally, despite all the nitpicking and lies of the anti-environment lobbies. You can never prove any of the claims of the anti-environment lobbies in any case because they are all farking reductionists, and the environment is not to be understood unless you can bring it altogether into a holistic understanding.

I've never seen one of these claims wash and wear yet. They fall apart the first time you launder them like a cheap Chinese t-shirt held together with even cheaper Chinese duct tape.

Go ahead: pay extra for organic. Provided it is grown within 100 miles and delivered to your table within 24 hours or so, it probably will be healthier. Flying it in from Chile doesn't make so much sense, but there is a reason why it is cheaper in Chile than in New York City.


The only legitimate use of big crystals of edible salt (sea or fossil) is pretzels. There could be a few other minor uses, but really, you shouldn't be eating big crystals of salt any way, they'll cut your mouth.
 
2011-04-28 01:39:20 PM  
The real crime in that picture of the swimming pool is this: IT'S A FARKING BLOW-UP SWIMMING POOL. If you are above the age of 12, you might want to bring a toaster into the pool and whittle on the cord with a kitchen knife.

Really. A blow-up plastic pool. How long is that going to last?
 
2011-04-28 01:55:08 PM  

brantgoose: The real crime in that picture of the swimming pool is this: IT'S A FARKING BLOW-UP SWIMMING POOL. If you are above the age of 12, you might want to bring a toaster into the pool and whittle on the cord with a kitchen knife.

Really. A blow-up plastic pool. How long is that going to last?


My sister has one for her kids.

So far, it has lasted three years. they are actually kind of nice in a cheap back yard pool kind of way.
 
2011-04-28 01:55:55 PM  

lordargent: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

It's also faked, it's been discussed on fark before.

Those plugs aren't recessed, they're missing.


At any rate, the license plate on that car in background confirms that it didn't happen in America....
 
2011-04-28 01:57:04 PM  
76% of 1,000 American polled agreed with the statement "wine can be good for your heart." Hey, the good news is: That's true, but only if you consume two glasses per day if you're a man and one glass if you're a woman. Otherwise -- and here comes the really bad news -- excess drinking can lead to all kinds of problems like irregular heartbeat, obesity, cancer, high blood pressure and even heart failure.

Read more: http://slashfood.com/2011/04/26/americans-confused-by-red-wine-sea-sal​t/#ixzz1Kq FZdD2G


What kind of Gotcha bullshiat statement is that? Okay, 100% of Americans polled said that water is good for you, but it's actually dangerous if you get it in your lungs you DUMB STUPID FAT AMERICANS HAHAHAHA
 
2011-04-28 02:02:21 PM  
Sea salt -- looks nice. For seagulls to poop in.

thumbs.dreamstime.com

/ have a friend who worked for Cargill at their sea salt evaporation facility near San Francisco
// the birds drop all kinds of crap into the salt, but thankfully most of it can be filtered out
/// ...most. Enjoy.
 
2011-04-28 02:13:17 PM  

brantgoose: But then, sea salt is a scam any way.

Why would anybody want salt from the sea?


Sea salt often has a different crystalline structure than table salt, and that can make a difference in cooking and food prep/storage.

Also, sometimes you want some of the other elements that come along for the ride in sea salt.
 
2011-04-28 02:15:41 PM  
AbbeySomeone:

It is not a healthy food choice.

If your blood pressure is on the low end I don't think the extra sodium is going to hurt to you. Plus it is a great source of protein and is low in fat.

Of course the texture is so disturbing there is no way I can eat the stuff.
 
2011-04-28 02:26:35 PM  

EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.


Plus people in photo are not fat
 
2011-04-28 02:28:51 PM  
I'm pretty sure there are absolutely no processes used when harvesting sea salts to keep unwanted chemicals/organisms out. Yeah, I just got this gut feeling about that. You could probably go get some and open it up and it would be whale cum and jelly fish sea gull poop fish eye syringe plastic bottle top sea urchin dolphin pee sand shrimp guts bacteria infected shark penis...
 
2011-04-28 02:33:42 PM  
Americans are also ill-informed about sodium, believing (56% of those surveyed) that ordinary table salt is the primary source in our diets

Probably actually true, if by "table salt" we mean sodium chloride from all sources, not just from a shaker next to the napkin dispenser.

How do you think all that dietary sodium got into the cottage cheese: from baking soda and MSG?
 
2011-04-28 02:33:55 PM  
I love the videos offered beneath the article. Use more salt!

Completely over the "all 300 million Americans believe the exact same stupid stuff and do the same stupid things" conceit, though, and the article made no actual point at all. Yes, we all drink big Target wine cubes every night and love sea salt so much we shake some in. Don't do that, got it.
 
2011-04-28 02:42:16 PM  
Americans confused by red wine, sea salt, most stuff going on in the world

FTFY (new window)
 
2011-04-28 04:02:52 PM  

lordargent: Those plugs aren't recessed, they're missing.

Unless those are what they're actually supposed to look like, in which case, weirdest plug in the world?


No, Lady Gaga has the weirdest plug in the world.
 
2011-04-28 04:10:27 PM  

unlikely: This is why Republicans and Democrats can still win elections.


This is why politicians can still win elections.
 
2011-04-28 04:34:01 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: unlikely: This is why Republicans and Democrats can still win elections.

This is why politicians can still win elections.


Point.
 
2011-04-28 06:22:48 PM  

Rufus Lee King: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

ShawnDoc: Rufus Lee King Yeah, just look at those stupid Americans, what are they doing using EU plugs on their "American" appliances? That's crazy.

/Here's a hint, American outlets aren't round and recessed.

Kar98: EvilEgg: Rufus Lee King The outlets on that powerstrip are European, so it's doubtful that those are American retards.

Also, there is Polish, or possibly Czech writing on the beer bottles.

Ok, ok. Youse guys needn't hock me to China, or nothin'. I just found that image after a quick search, and did not analyze it that intensely. At any rate, I have to commend you for your powers of observation.


I believe the phrase you are looking for is "Hock mir ein chinick" or some variance on that spelling. It is Yiddish phrase.
 
2011-04-28 06:38:02 PM  
hurr durr Americans are so stupid that they can give the right answer and still be wrong because they are so stupid!
 
2011-04-28 07:19:47 PM  
Guh.
 
2011-04-28 10:29:41 PM  
tricycleracer: Oblig

But if you look at the rest of the pictures, she doesn't look very euro at all.

NSFW
 
2011-04-28 10:52:03 PM  

Trivia Jockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutritional literacy should be mandatory in public schools

I agree, but at this point I'd settle for some basic "we didn't come from Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago" science education.


I don't know if their names were Adam or Eve, but I think you need to do a little checking on how scientists are tracing back our genetic origins.

"Stupidity is a condition, but ignorance is a choice."
-Wiley
 
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