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(CNN)   Dear America, stop obsessing over Islamic extremists, cut way back on military spending, and start investing in education, infrastructure, diplomacy and health care. Yours truly, the Joint Chiefs of staff, Pentagon   (globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 616
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2011-04-25 07:30:32 PM
Obvious tag on vacation?
 
2011-04-25 07:33:23 PM

Barfmaker: Obvious tag on vacation?


Obvious to far too few.
 
2011-04-25 07:35:57 PM
Pffft. What do they know?
 
2011-04-25 07:41:26 PM
It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.
 
2011-04-25 07:45:24 PM

GWSuperfan: It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.


I know! We can finally get some new bumper stickers ;-)
 
2011-04-25 07:48:44 PM

GWSuperfan: It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.


They're going to have to close one of the elementary schools in my town next year because of a $1M budget shortfall.

For those keeping score, that's .004348% of the $23 billion that the government literally misplaced in Iraq (new window).
 
2011-04-25 07:52:38 PM

Diogenes: Pffft. What do they know?


Exactly.

These are the same "experts" that say the military can handle gays serving.
 
2011-04-25 07:55:48 PM

Rustico: Diogenes: Pffft. What do they know?

Exactly.

These are the same "experts" that say the military can handle gays serving.


If this trend continues, can we vote to have a military coup?
 
2011-04-25 07:56:42 PM
well their careers are over. The Republicans will see to that.
 
2011-04-25 08:07:09 PM
Hey, what time is American Idol on again?
 
2011-04-25 08:07:23 PM
The article says
"We have to recognize that fixing America's fiscal problems - paring back the budget busters like entitlements and also defense spending[...]"

the actual report says:
[nothing of the sort]

If anything Mr. Y's report indicates that 'budget busters like education and healthcare need to be improved, presumably by spending more and smarter.
Mr. Y's report:
"A willingness to compete means a new narrative on trade and a new willingness to invest in the skills, education, energy sources, and infrastructure necessary to make our products competitive."

and

"This begins at home with quality health care and education, with a vital economy and low rates of unemployment, with thriving urban centers and carefully planned rural communities, with low
crime, and a sense of common purpose underwritten by personal responsibility."


As a matter of fact, the next quote shows that these member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are outright Commies and should be shot for treason:

"As we continue to evolve, these values are reflected in a wider global application: tolerance for
all cultures, races, and religions; global opportunity for self-fulfillment; human dignity and
freedom from exploitation; justice with compassion and equality under internationally
recognized rule of law; sovereignty without tyranny, with assured freedom of expression; and an
environment for entrepreneurial freedom and global prosperity, with access to markets, plentiful
water and arable soil, clean and abundant energy, and adequate health services.


Our national defense is run by commies!!!! Where is McCarthy when you need him?
 
2011-04-25 08:23:00 PM
An important step toward re-establishing credible influence and applying it effectively is to close the "say-do" gap. This begins by avoiding the very western tendency to label or "bin" individuals, groups, organizations, and ideas. In complex systems, adaptation and variation demonstrate that "binning" is not only difficult, it often leads to unintended consequences.

Binning - the very heart of most threads.
 
2011-04-25 08:39:08 PM
I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.
 
2011-04-25 09:00:55 PM
I'd love to see Freep Impact take this one on. I can see it now: "All those guys are just liberal pansies, who cares what they say?" "Of course the Pentagon wants more socialism, they thrive on leeching off hard-working Americans!" "Maybe we SHOULD cut defense spending, those commies shouldn't get anymore of my money. Especially after they let gays ruin the military."
 
2011-04-25 09:29:08 PM

wyltoknow: I'd love to see Freep Impact take this one on. I can see it now: "All those guys are just liberal pansies, who cares what they say?" "Of course the Pentagon wants more socialism, they thrive on leeching off hard-working Americans!" "Maybe we SHOULD cut defense spending, those commies shouldn't get anymore of my money. Especially after they let gays ruin the military."


I can't find them discussing it, which shouldn't be too surprising, since the Mr. Y article is 15 pages long and well-written. I mean, for god's sake man, it's got an introduction by a professor at Princeton.
 
2011-04-25 09:58:44 PM
Foo-ball?
 
2011-04-25 10:20:23 PM

Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.


And nobody is employed by education.
 
2011-04-25 11:25:08 PM

Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.


We can employ quite a few more people in civil service per dollar than Boeing does, and those people will actually contribute something. Give every soldier coverage for their degree that is mustered out, and let them go all the way to a Ph.D. if they want.
 
2011-04-25 11:46:41 PM
GWSuperfan 2011-04-25 07:41:26 PM
It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.


OOOOOLD SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL

For the win!
 
2011-04-26 12:08:27 AM

GAT_00: Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.

We can employ quite a few more people in civil service per dollar than Boeing does, and those people will actually contribute something. Give every soldier coverage for their degree that is mustered out, and let them go all the way to a Ph.D. if they want.


Nonsense. Let's just toss them to the wind like after WWII when taxes on the rich were around nonexistent.
 
2011-04-26 12:18:31 AM

GAT_00: We can employ quite a few more people in civil service per dollar than Boeing does, and those people will actually contribute something. Give every soldier coverage for their degree that is mustered out, and let them go all the way to a Ph.D. if they want.


Generally speaking, that's pretty much what happens.
 
2011-04-26 12:33:10 AM
As was proven in 2008, Congress will only act during a crisis, and sometimes not even then.
 
2011-04-26 12:56:05 AM
well...at least your didn't have an apostrophe s...where is Grandma Nazi anyway?
 
2011-04-26 01:26:24 AM

Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.


Ike warned us about that precise possibility. Perhaps we should have listened.

/opportunity cost: what is it and can i get a pamphlet?
 
2011-04-26 01:31:35 AM
A brown feller telling us not to be afraid of other brown fellers. I, for one, am totally convinced. I'm sure he has no ties to the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD or AL-JAZEERA whatsoever.
 
2011-04-26 02:23:30 AM

Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.


And that's our big problem. We can't cut defense, it's what employs those young men so they don't come be unemployed over here. We can't defund TSA, Homeland Security, the war on drugs; that's hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. We're married to bad policy because it keeps our sham of an economy going, more or less.
 
2011-04-26 03:12:28 AM
When even the top leadership admits that things are wrong, it's game over.
 
2011-04-26 03:44:34 AM

Mentat: As was proven in 2008, Congress will only act during a crisis, and sometimes not even then.


patriot act was such a GREAT MOVE ....

sigh

if only there were some kind of way to plan in advance
 
2011-04-26 03:58:21 AM

Occam's Chainsaw: Shostie: I'd like to just take this moment to remind all of the "WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING" folk that there are literally a sh*t-ton of people who are employed via government defense contracts.

And that's our big problem. We can't cut defense, it's what employs those young men so they don't come be unemployed over here. We can't defund TSA, Homeland Security, the war on drugs; that's hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. We're married to bad policy because it keeps our sham of an economy going, more or less.


Eh, it simple. Train them to be cops or firemen. Engineers can work on infrastructure so maybe bridges don't fall down on their own.

There are very few jobs in the military where the skills learned there can't be used elsewhere.
 
2011-04-26 05:04:39 AM
FTFA: Washington needs to make sure that the United States does not fall into the imperial trap of every other superpower in history, spending greater and greater time and money and energy stabilizing disorderly parts of the world on the periphery, while at the core its own industrial and economic might is waning.

Every superpower in history has fallen into the same trap because every superpower in history has had the same conceit about itself: exceptionalism.

Republicans complain that Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism. Republicans think this is a terrible thing.(pops) A lot of Americans agree with them.

Unfortunately, that belief is one thing that will almost certainly lead to the country's downfall.

There were two presidents who have really hastened the demise of American influence. The first was Ronald Reagan. The second was George W. Bush.
 
2011-04-26 06:32:10 AM
John Paul Jones 2011-04-25 07:48:44 PM

GWSuperfan: It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to can afford to buy a bomber.

Derr
 
2011-04-26 06:34:44 AM

John Paul Jones: GWSuperfan: It will be a great day in America when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.

They're going to have to close one of the elementary schools in my town next year because of a $1M budget shortfall.

For those keeping score, that's .004348% of the $23 billion that the government literally misplaced in Iraq (new window).


And they are threatening cutting sports programs in my district if a levy fails to pass. 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year, over 85% of the budget is wrapped in salaries for the teachers, and they want more money, which will just go to pay the teachers even more and have no direct effect on the classroom.
 
2011-04-26 06:36:34 AM
Defense budget is $685 billion and yes we can cut some of that but the deficit is $1.8 trillion, if we cut all the defense budget we can still not cover the deficit. Next idea?
 
2011-04-26 06:38:27 AM
I'm sure some senators state get X amount of defense contract spending and will not want to give that up. Just say things like "I'm supporting the troops" and make this sound like its a liberal thing and the masses will forget all about education, etc.

Its too complex it write it all down. I fear for this country. We need to stop building up the Chinese so fast just to make a few short sighted greedy disgustingly wealthy. W need to to stop defending countries that should be taking things out of their own budgets to defend themselves, and putting that money at home. We need to stop being the police of the world. We can't afford it anymore.
 
2011-04-26 06:39:48 AM
♫Working at the car wash♫
 
2011-04-26 06:40:04 AM
Hey its KittyPie. Hello, KittyPie. Hey, I'm about ten hours away from the point where the insomnia is supposed to give me hallucinations. Cool, eh?

Also, regarding the point of this topic: I suddenly like that guy a lot lot more.
 
2011-04-26 06:41:21 AM

scooter1369: And they are threatening cutting sports programs in my district if a levy fails to pass. 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year, over 85% of the budget is wrapped in salaries for the teachers, and they want more money, which will just go to pay the teachers even more and have no direct effect on the classroom.


yeah how DARE those teachers make a good living? not like they do anything important...
 
2011-04-26 06:41:56 AM
Communists!
 
2011-04-26 06:44:19 AM
Weaver95: well their careers are over. The Republicans will see to that.

The nice perk of being a chief of staff, no worries about promotions or anything else. The only person who can really say anything to them is the president. And I doubt he's upset by this.

scooter1369: . 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year,

If only we made sure all teachers got at least that much.
 
2011-04-26 06:45:25 AM

Father_Jack: scooter1369: And they are threatening cutting sports programs in my district if a levy fails to pass. 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year, over 85% of the budget is wrapped in salaries for the teachers, and they want more money, which will just go to pay the teachers even more and have no direct effect on the classroom.

yeah how DARE those teachers make a good living? not like they do anything important...


Not bad wages for 9 months of work however.
 
2011-04-26 06:47:20 AM

eddyatwork: When even the top leadership admits that things are wrong, it's game over.


Top leadership? It's one Navy Captain and one Marine Cores Colonel.

TheMoreYouKnow.jpg

/ Direct link to article, for those incapable of finding it in the CNN pablum. Link (new window)
 
2011-04-26 06:47:43 AM

wrestler79: Father_Jack: scooter1369: And they are threatening cutting sports programs in my district if a levy fails to pass. 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year, over 85% of the budget is wrapped in salaries for the teachers, and they want more money, which will just go to pay the teachers even more and have no direct effect on the classroom.

yeah how DARE those teachers make a good living? not like they do anything important...

Not bad wages for 9 months of work however.


my exwife was a teacher. the 9mos a year they work more than enough to compensate for the summer: grading at night, calls to parents, lesson planning etc. They work from 630 to 4, have dinner then work again 7-10.
 
2011-04-26 06:48:14 AM
26.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-04-26 06:48:15 AM
I read about this report a week or two ago and decided that I agree with just about every point they made.

I think the best investment we could make is in ourselves and especially in our children.
 
2011-04-26 06:48:22 AM
Damn soft-on-terror liberals.
 
2011-04-26 06:49:05 AM

wrestler79: Defense budget is $685 billion and yes we can cut some of that but the deficit is $1.8 trillion, if we cut all the defense budget we can still not cover the deficit. Next idea?


Yes, we can't cover the whole thing in one fell swoop, lets not even bother
 
2011-04-26 06:49:05 AM
Pay no attention. These guys were first to integrate their work force, too.

Do gooders all, except for that collateral damage and that other thing. They're beyond Rush, Sean and Bill zero's grasp.

//Oh. And thanks to that guy who burns Korans, maybe he and Phelps can picket funerals of all the soldiers who are killed in direct reaction.
 
2011-04-26 06:49:16 AM
wrestler79

Defense budget is $685 billion and yes we can cut some of that but the deficit is $1.8 trillion, if we cut all the defense budget we can still not cover the deficit. Next idea?

Before we move on to the "next idea," how much are you suggesting we save via the defense budget?

We're nowhere near having an honest discussion. You couldn't get a "conservative" to talk about deficits of any kind when Bush was running the country, I remember that for sure. Now Obama is the figurehead, of course, all they want to talk about is deficits.

Anyway, you can look at the following stats in your own time

Month US Trade Deficit ($ millions)
February 2011 $45,758
January 2011 $46,969
December 2010 $40,264
November 2010 $38,239
October 2010 $38,227
September 2010 $44,079
August 2010 $46,316
July 2010 $42,226
June 2010 $49,941
May 2010 $41,996
April 2010 $40,571
March 2010 $39,506
February 2010 $39,718
January 2010 $34,647
December 2009 $39,902
November 2009 $36,114
October 2009 $32,933
September 2009 $35,281
August 2009 $29,938
July 2009 $31,165
June 2009 $26,876
May 2009 $25,763
April 2009 $28,440
March 2009 $28,816
February 2009 $26,504
January 2009 $36,901
December 2008 $48,165
November 2008 $54,259
October 2008 $58,030
September 2008 $58,135
August 2008 $60,244
July 2008 $62,505
June 2008 $59,135
May 2008 $59,790
April 2008 $60,498
March 2008 $56,491
February 2008 $60,573
January 2008 $57,856
December 2007 $57,896
November 2007 $62,408
October 2007 $57,586
September 2007 $56,945
August 2007 $56,729
July 2007 $58,895
June 2007 $59,983
May 2007 $60,274
April 2007 $59,213
March 2007 $63,035
February 2007 $58,228
January 2007 $57,356
December 2006 $61,453
November 2006 $58,214
October 2006 $58,926
September 2006 $64,603
August 2006 $68,915
July 2006 $67,882
June 2006 $64,695
May 2006 $65,340
April 2006 $63,598
March 2006 $62,266
February 2006 $62,912
January 2006 $66,470
December 2005 $65,074
November 2005 $64,462
October 2005 $67,836
September 2005 $65,585
August 2005 $58,462
July 2005 $57,355
June 2005 $59,130
May 2005 $55,971
April 2005 $57,681
March 2005 $53,754
February 2005 $60,114
January 2005 $58,267
December 2004 $54,672
November 2004 $58,977
October 2004 $55,574
September 2004 $51,939
August 2004 $54,195
July 2004 $51,331
June 2004 $54,894
May 2004 $48,472
April 2004 $48,406
March 2004 $46,966
Feb 2004 $45,834
Jan 2004 $46,053
Dec 2003 $43,742
Nov 2003 $39,559
Oct 2003 $41,126
Sept 2003 $41,645
Aug 2003 $40,125
Jul 2003 $40,929
Jun 2003 $39,882
May 2003 $40,792
April 2003 $42,176
Mar 2003 $43,543
Feb 2003 $40,073
Jan 2003 $41,218
 
2011-04-26 06:50:30 AM

Father_Jack: scooter1369: And they are threatening cutting sports programs in my district if a levy fails to pass. 268 teachers in this district make over $70,000 a year, over 85% of the budget is wrapped in salaries for the teachers, and they want more money, which will just go to pay the teachers even more and have no direct effect on the classroom.

yeah how DARE those teachers make a good living? not like they do anything important...


The average teacher salary in Ohio is $54,000. Yet, almost three quarters of the teachers in this district make over $70,000. Some of them live in the most exclusive neighborhoods in the city and drive Mercedes, Hummers (not H2 or H3) and Caddys.

Won't someone please think of the teachers? Please, go ahead and jack up my monthly mortgage payment another $50. Maybe they can trade in their Mercedes for Bentleys next year. The 55 Teachers making of $90k are struggling for sure.
 
2011-04-26 06:50:51 AM

Schlock: wrestler79: Defense budget is $685 billion and yes we can cut some of that but the deficit is $1.8 trillion, if we cut all the defense budget we can still not cover the deficit. Next idea?

Yes, we can't cover the whole thing in one fell swoop, lets not even bother


totally. i cant pay off my credit card this month, might as well spend another grand on stippers
 
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