Palmer Eldritch: I don't care if it's bad for the league, I love the Knicks being pathetic. You saw the conference finals on your previous teams, Melo and Amar'e, but I doubt you'll ever see them again.

Why do you hate the Knicks?

Gunny Highway: Why do you hate the Knicks?



/ hates high-profile "fans" that walk all over the court

veedeevadeevoodee: Gunny Highway: Why do you hate the Knicks?

/ hates high-profile "fans" that walk all over the court

I hate Spike but I dont have any hard feelings towards NY. I grew up in a Knicks household and have some great memories of watching the Knicks with my family.

/Houston off the front of the rim...
//AND IN!
///F the Heat

puffy999: By the way, subby, I think Melo gave the Knicks the Melo NBA Playoff experience. He knows all about early playoff exits.

Didn't the Nuggets lose in seven to the Lakers in the WCF a few years back?

Gunny Highway: puffy999: By the way, subby, I think Melo gave the Knicks the Melo NBA Playoff experience. He knows all about early playoff exits.

Didn't the Nuggets lose in seven to the Lakers in the WCF a few years back?

6, and the last quarter of game 5 and all of game 6 was a laugher.

jaylectricity: bighasbeen: Gunny Highway: puffy999: By the way, subby, I think Melo gave the Knicks the Melo NBA Playoff experience. He knows all about early playoff exits.

Didn't the Nuggets lose in seven to the Lakers in the WCF a few years back?

6, and the last quarter of game 5 and all of game 6 was a laugher.

So it was 2-2 until Kobe went off?

Well, until he went off on Gasol and Odom.

The first 3 games were close, Lakers got pasted in the 4th, and pretty much deflated the Nuggets in the 4th quarter of game 5. Then they beat Denver by 26 in their own house to close it up.

Kobe was pretty much unstoppable that whole post season. (29/6/5.5 on 46% shooting)

My bad, his line from that year's playoffs was 30/5/5.5, 46% FG, 88% FT.

Would have been interesting without the injuries, but what can you do?

The funny thing is any non-Boston fan can clearly see that this is Boston's last run (and it aint going to end pretty), and that a completely banged up Knicks team with the worlds worst coach still gave them a run. And it's only going uphill from here. Bulls, Heat, Knicks starting next season and for the next 4-5 years are going to be the class of the East.

Only thing Boston is going to be doing the next 5 years is retiring Paul Pierce's number and probably still trying to teach Rondo how to make a free throw.

still gave them a run
if this is giving them a run than wtf is getting blown out

IAmRight: Palmer Eldritch: You saw the conference finals on your previous teams, Melo and Amar'e

Amare saw 'em from the bench. He was out for nearly the whole season (came back for a couple games then got taken out for the rest of the year) the year the Suns made the conference finals.

They made it in '05, '06 and '10. Amare was out for '06 but in for the other two.

Palmer Eldritch: And if we're turning this into a thread about the whole NBA, am I the only one who is not a believer in the Bulls? I think the Hawks are better than the Pacers both in the post and on the perimeter, and they're going to give the Bulls fits. Hawks in 6.

/bias disclaimer: wearing a Rondo jersey as I type this

I'll take an 82 game sample over a 4 game sample. The Bulls are a much better team.

/and to keep this on topic, the Knicks suck

Palmer Eldritch: And if we're turning this into a thread about the whole NBA, am I the only one who is not a believer in the Bulls? I think the Hawks are better than the Pacers both in the post and on the perimeter, and they're going to give the Bulls fits. Hawks in 6.

I'm sorta with you. Gun to my head I still say the Bulls win but it's gonna be a showdown.

Bothe those EC series are going to kickass.

I agree, the Bulls really need to step up their game. They are having way too many problems against a team that had a losing record and the Hawks are really surprising me.

Palmer Eldritch: Baryogenesis
I'll take an 82 game sample over a 4 game sample. The Bulls are a much better team.

Tell that to last year's Cavs. This isn't the EPL, beating the same team four out of seven is a different animal then playing a different team every night. Hawks are a tough out, and I think they can exploit the Bulls' vulnerabilities. Feel free to dig up this post and rub it in my face if I'm proven wrong.

The Cavs-Celtics ECF is a different story though. The Celtics are/were a proven team with a comparable record to those Cavs. The Hawks are a mid 40 win team in a favorable 1st round matchup. They have guys to throw at the Magic's best player, but they have no one to guard Rose.

I'm not the type to gloat over a prediction or rub an incorrect one in someone's face. It's not like you're picking the Pacers to come back to win the series against the Bulls or something. And it's not as if I'm great at predictions. I picked the Magic to win.

/I did pick the Knicks to lose though

Carmelo doesn't care, he got what he his wife wanted, to be in New York. That's all that matters to him her.

Still blows my mind that James Dolan was effing stupid enough to trade for him during the season when he got exactly the same end of the season as if he didn't make the trade.

Antoni (No D...yeah, partly stolen from Rome) will be let go within the next couple of years, and another coach will come in to try and clean up the mess that is the New York Knickerbockers.

Palmer Eldritch: Baryogenesis
I'll take an 82 game sample over a 4 game sample. The Bulls are a much better team.

Tell that to last year's Cavs. This isn't the EPL, beating the same team four out of seven is a different animal then playing a different team every night. Hawks are a tough out, and I think they can exploit the Bulls' vulnerabilities. Feel free to dig up this post and rub it in my face if I'm proven wrong.

The Pacers are laying the blueprint on how to beat the Bulls, and I bet the rest of the East is taking notes. Strange that that sentence is even remotely true. The Bulls should be glad that Indiana doesn't have a star closer to rely on at the end of a big game, because they could easily be down 3-1 in that series. Ultimately the Bulls are probably just too talented to lose to a team like the Hawks, but they no longer look like the juggernaut they were going into the playoffs.

TJ

"If you tell LeBron James that Cleveland was his city or the Cavaliers were his team, prepare for a quick correction.

The Akron native didn't wait for the end of a question Friday when a reporter referenced Cleveland as "your city." James' message was that he can't disown something that was never his.

"It wasn't my city. It wasn't my team either," he said. "I was just a player, you know, I helped get that franchise to leaps and bounds that they haven't seen before."

Link (new window)


Who run Clevelandtown?


Dammit, I told you, no more embargos.

Who run Clevelandtown? Who... run... Clevelandtown?

...You know who.

Say.

What if I say something like "Cleveland was never my city or my team"?

OK, but say it loud!

Cleveland was never my city or

my city or... what?

Cleveland was never my city or my team

Louder!

Cleveland was never my city or my team!

Alright, I'll lift embargo



/TJ

The Knicks would look real good going into next year with Gallinari and Felton still there, and Melo signing as a FA.

Baryogenesis: They have guys to throw at the Magic's best player, but they have no one to guard Rose.

I'd throw Marvin Williams at him. If Luol Deng wins them the series, then so be it.

bighasbeen: Baryogenesis: They have guys to throw at the Magic's best player, but they have no one to guard Rose.

I'd throw Marvin Williams at him. If Luol Deng wins them the series, then so be it.

Williams is a pretty good wing defender, but I doubt he can contain one of the best PGs in the game. I just checked the season series between the Bulls and Hawks. Two blowout wins for the Bulls and one 3 point win for the Hawks. Not a good sign for Atlanta.

The Celtics looked beatable in Boston, and the Knicks thought they could finish the job at home.

How do those two thoughts make it into your head while in the process of being swept?

bighasbeen: Baryogenesis: They have guys to throw at the Magic's best player, but they have no one to guard Rose.

I'd throw Marvin Williams at him. If Luol Deng wins them the series, then so be it.

Hinrich actually defends Rose about as well as anybody in the league, but I still think it's Bulls in 6.

I loved hearing all of the NY apologists saying "if only they were healthy" they could have/would have beaten the Celtics. Guess why the Celtics were all healthy at their ages? Doc knows how to coach a team to the finals and gives the old guys rest during the regular season to keep everyone healthy and fresh in the playoffs.

Next year the Knicks will be a much stronger team. New coach, new center. Overall they'll have a much better bench by the beginning of next season.

MugzyBrown: Although I think Melo and Amare are both a bit overrated.

Ya think?

Shang-High: I loved hearing all of the NY apologists saying "if only they were healthy" they could have/would have beaten the Celtics. Guess why the Celtics were all healthy at their ages? Doc knows how to coach a team to the finals and gives the old guys rest during the regular season to keep everyone healthy and fresh in the playoffs.

Yeah, we all know the Billups knee injury was caused by D'Antoni's substitution patterns, not landing awkwardly on a drive to the basket.

Same goes for Amare's back spasms, right?

Stoudemire - 36.8 MPG
Allen - 36.1 MPG
Pierce - 34.7 MPG

As for resting players, Doc has the luxury of having three HOFers an elite point guard, and something of a bench. That's not to say the Knicks WOULD have won if Billups and Amare were healthy (it wouldn't have mattered), but your explanation for WHY they weren't is utter nonsense.

And I say this as someone who doesn't much care for Mike D'Antoni. You're just full of crap.

The Knicks were completely rehauled at basically the end of the season.

A year to firm up the roster, get people signed, get some more supporting cast, It'll be fine. I had little hope or expectation for them.

Truth: Knicks are a lot better then they were last season at this time, and in a better place to succeed next season.

puffy999: Palmer Eldritch: My hatred for the Yankees and Jets has turned into a hatred for all New York sports teams, except for the Islanders, because they're just too sad to hate.

The funny part is that the Islanders have what may be the greatest 4 year run in NY sports history.

Heh. Yep. The Isles have double the stanley cups that the knicks have NBA championships, and have been around roughly half as long.

I'm not worrying though. The chemistry will come, and there'll probably be a new coach who actually preaches defense. D'antoni was having them play his favoured run-n-gun style for a lot of the playoffs, and it just fell flat without the personnel Phoenix had. Or even the guys he had before the Melo trade.

Combine that with the Celtics and Orlando declining, I think the knicks will find a place near the top of the power structure of the east.

puffy999: The funny part is that the Islanders have what may be the greatest 4 year run in NY sports history.

Well, if you ignore the Yankees winning 5 World Series in a row from 1949-1953, and 4 in a row from 1936-1939.