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(Miami Herald)   An inside look at the U.S. military's growing obsession with tea. No, not the party, the beverage itself. Jean Luc Picard nods in approval   (miamiherald.com) divider line 78
    More: Interesting, U.S., islamic extremism, U.S. military, Stanley McChrystal, Greg Mortenson, Mike Mullen, Jon Krakauer, Afghans  
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2011-04-24 08:49:05 AM
It should be fairly simple and inexpensive to reprogram our replicators produce a decent tea substitute.
 
2011-04-24 08:52:16 AM
creatingacomic.com
 
2011-04-24 08:52:33 AM
BarbadoSlim: It should be fairly simple and inexpensive to reprogram our replicators produce a decent tea substitute.

That damn Nutri-Matic never could get it quite right.
 
2011-04-24 08:53:02 AM
BarbadoSlim: It should be fairly simple and inexpensive to reprogram our replicators produce a decent tea substitute.

No, they'd only produce a beverage that was almost, but not exactly, completely unlike tea.
 
2011-04-24 08:55:44 AM
Bunch of tea-swilling fairies now, huh?

www.imfdb.org

Coffee, it'll make you into a Sexual Tyrranosaurus
 
2011-04-24 08:55:56 AM
Jean Luc Picard hates the Tea Party?
 
2011-04-24 09:02:14 AM
FTA: Mortenson has defended his memoir as largely true and denied any financial impropriety.

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2011-04-24 09:05:03 AM
I do tend to agree with his assertion that schools, or broad-reaching education in general, are the best recipe to combat extremism. Works everywhere.
 
2011-04-24 09:05:52 AM
My Dad has liked to joke that clearly the replicators had some kind of a safety mechanism that made it so that when Captain Picard said "Earl Grey, hot" he got a cup of tea instead of some guy from the 1700s.
 
2011-04-24 09:08:52 AM
RatOmeter: I do tend to agree with his assertion that schools, or broad-reaching education in general, are the best recipe to combat extremism. Works everywhere.

The opposite seems to be true as well. Remove education and you get things like the tea party.
 
2011-04-24 09:16:15 AM
Tea, earl grey, hot.
 
2011-04-24 09:20:27 AM
BarbadoSlim: It should be fairly simple and inexpensive to reprogram our replicators produce a decent tea substitute.

And from there its "Howitzer, olive drab, loaded" and the military industrial complex goes downhill from there.
 
2011-04-24 09:25:15 AM
Picard Thread! So full of win.
 
2011-04-24 09:30:12 AM
g4lt: Bunch of tea-swilling fairies now, huh?



Coffee, it'll make you into a Sexual Tyrranosaurus


i249.photobucket.com

Has something for your sore ass.
 
2011-04-24 09:47:47 AM
FTA:
Mortenson's celebrity in the military took off about the same time that the Afghanistan war started to founder.

Sounds fishy to me
 
2011-04-24 09:49:09 AM
OK, am I the only one that noticed that the article was about two paragraphs about tea?

The rest of it was rehashing this whole Three Cups Of Tea controversy...

I think it's a case where they want to write about one thing, but there's already a thousand stories out there about it, so they decided to write it anyway and give it a catchy hook.

I'd rather read more about why they like tea, considering that was the whole point of the headline. I can read about the other stuff elsewhere.
 
2011-04-24 09:54:13 AM
www.imfdb.org

I ain't got time to steep.
 
2011-04-24 09:58:19 AM
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When I was little, we found a leaf. It looked like - like, butchered. The old woman in the village crossed themselves... and whispered crazy things, strange things. "El Diablo que hace bebidas calientes de las hojas" Only in the hottest years this happens. And this year, it grows hot. We begin finding our leaves. We found them sometimes without their twigs... and sometimes much, much worse. "El Diablo que hace bebidas calientes de las hojas" means the demon who makes hot drinks from leaves.
 
2011-04-24 09:59:02 AM
crap.

sed 's/butchered/boiled/'
 
2011-04-24 10:00:11 AM
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Most human problems can be solved by the appropriate cup of herbal tea.
 
2011-04-24 10:01:23 AM
Ikimasen: My Dad has liked to joke that clearly the replicators had some kind of a safety mechanism that made it so that when Captain Picard said "Earl Grey, hot" he got a cup of tea instead of some guy from the 1700s.

Your dad sounds like my kinda guy. :)
 
2011-04-24 10:03:48 AM
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My name is Gunnery Sergeant Highway, and I've drank more tea, pissed more blood, and banged more quiff than all you numb-nuts put together
 
2011-04-24 10:05:08 AM
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Our tea pots! Where are they? Answer that one, Herr Goering! The British have plenty of them! Talking big is all he's good for, that fat slob.
 
2011-04-24 10:05:55 AM
What little I know of tea in the military is from my husband, who already liked tea before he went in. It only exacerbated the problem. Now he brews sun tea, iced tea (apparently his habit of adding lemon is from the military), chinese tea (which I think is a red at the moment) black tea, and has a more extensive and varied collection of black teas than even I - the tea-swilling city hippy - have.

I think all the military did was encourage him to drink more iced tea, add lemon and look down on any poor soul who actually liked his iced tea sweetened.

His current favorite is to use a Twinings English Afternoon (not breakfast) tea as an iced tea. He says it's fantastic.

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2011-04-24 10:08:23 AM
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I, Oolong Jack, being of sound mind and broke teapot, do leaveth my tea to the next thing who finds it, Lord hope he be a white man.
It is good tea, and soothed the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead.

Yours Truly, Oolong Jack.
 
2011-04-24 10:10:54 AM
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When the Earl Grey is dead, Magua will drink his tea.
 
2011-04-24 10:15:48 AM
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There's always time for tea.
 
2011-04-24 10:18:23 AM
Sweet tea is not the same as sweetend tea.

Discuss.
 
2011-04-24 10:18:57 AM
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2011-04-24 10:22:28 AM
Aidan: What little I know of tea in the military is from my husband, who already liked tea before he went in. It only exacerbated the problem. Now he brews sun tea, iced tea (apparently his habit of adding lemon is from the military), chinese tea (which I think is a red at the moment) black tea, and has a more extensive and varied collection of black teas than even I - the tea-swilling city hippy - have.

I think all the military did was encourage him to drink more iced tea, add lemon and look down on any poor soul who actually liked his iced tea sweetened.

His current favorite is to use a Twinings English Afternoon (not breakfast) tea as an iced tea. He says it's fantastic.

/This Tea Moment has been brought to you by Tangent, makers of the best threadjacks


Tell your husband about TenRen tea
 
2011-04-24 10:23:26 AM
dittybopper: I, Oolong Jack, being of sound mind and broke teapot, do leaveth my tea to the next thing who finds it, Lord hope he be a white man.
It is good tea, and soothed the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead.

Yours Truly, Oolong Jack.


Is that from "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston?
 
2011-04-24 10:24:33 AM
chu2dogg: Tell your husband about TenRen tea

Hmm. Never heard of these guys. Thanks. I'm looking at the website now.

Up until recently, we were getting our Chinese tea via a friend who... would go to China. :) Now, I think we're going to have to find alternate methods of acquisition.
 
2011-04-24 10:39:14 AM
RatOmeter: I do tend to agree with his assertion that schools, or broad-reaching education in general, are the best recipe to combat extremism. Works everywhere.

How do ylou explain Iran, which not only has a decent education system, but where over 50% of college students are female?
 
2011-04-24 10:43:12 AM
Is that from "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston?

Jeremiah Johnson
, with Robert Redford. Interestingly enough, the original name of the film was to be Liver Eating Johnson as the real man wqas known to eat the livers of the indians he killed. They decided this was somewhat unpalateable (pun intended).
 
2011-04-24 10:48:20 AM
RatOmeter: I do tend to agree with his assertion that schools, or broad-reaching education in general, are the best recipe to combat extremism. Works everywhere.

Certainly hasn't stopped the American war machine.
 
2011-04-24 10:55:57 AM
Rufus Lee King: Cerebral Knievel: Sweet tea is not the same as sweetend tea.

Discuss.

"Sweet tea" is made by pouring a "simple syrup", i.e. sugar dissolved in hot water, into the brew.

"Sweetened tea" is when you do it yourself in the glass with granulated sugar, Sweet & Low, Synthemesc, Vellocet, or Drencrom.


"Sweet Tea" isnt necessarily adding a "simple syrup", but adding any sweetner, usually plain white sugar, to a large batch of tea while it is warm so that a higher amount of sugar can dissolve the tea, something to do with a increased saturation point at warmer temperatures.

/connoisseur of diabetes-inducing sweet tea
 
2011-04-24 11:07:48 AM
sgtbarthel: "Sweet Tea" isnt necessarily adding a "simple syrup", but adding any sweetner, usually plain white sugar, to a large batch of tea while it is warm so that a higher amount of sugar can dissolve the tea, something to do with a increased saturation point at warmer temperatures.

Also, the ratio of sugar/water should be such that eating dessert while drinking sweet tea renders the dessert bland.

/South FTW, although probably not rising again.
//Too much sweet tea and Waffle House.
 
2011-04-24 11:09:51 AM
I actually got to take part in a Japanese tea ceremony last time I was in Kuwait. (The Japanese equivalent of a command chief/sergeant major there was one of the approx 15-20k tea masters in the world)

to be honest, the tea itself was unremarkable to me but, man, the ceremony was fascinating.
 
2011-04-24 11:10:12 AM
give me doughnuts: dittybopper: I, Oolong Jack, being of sound mind and broke teapot, do leaveth my tea to the next thing who finds it, Lord hope he be a white man.
It is good tea, and soothed the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead.

Yours Truly, Oolong Jack.

Is that from "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston?


Jeremiah Johnson with Robert Redford.
 
2011-04-24 11:13:13 AM
I'll stick with a heaping tablespoon of instant coffee followed by a couple swallows of canteen water.
 
2011-04-24 11:13:40 AM
CaptainBeer: Is that from "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston?

Jeremiah Johnson, with Robert Redford. Interestingly enough, the original name of the film was to be Liver Eating Johnson as the real man wqas known to eat the livers of the indians he killed. They decided this was somewhat unpalateable (pun intended).


Yep, and every single actor in that movie out-acts Redford. Hell, even the trees are less wooden. Great movie, except for Redford.

/Oh, and I don't think Hawken made .30 caliber rifles.
//And a .50 doesn't kick like that. I've got a .54, and I used to hunt with a .50 'Hawken'.
 
2011-04-24 11:20:47 AM
DoughyGuy: I think it's a case where they want to write about one thing, but there's already a thousand stories out there about it, so they decided to write it anyway and give it a catchy hook.

I'd rather read more about why they like tea, considering that was the whole point of the headline. I can read about the other stuff elsewhere.


The headline in the actual article had 'Tea' in capitals and quotation marks. The article was about the book, not the drink.
 
2011-04-24 11:23:05 AM
Stephonovich: sgtbarthel: "Sweet Tea" isnt necessarily adding a "simple syrup", but adding any sweetner, usually plain white sugar, to a large batch of tea while it is warm so that a higher amount of sugar can dissolve the tea, something to do with a increased saturation point at warmer temperatures.

Also, the ratio of sugar/water should be such that eating dessert while drinking sweet tea renders the dessert bland.

/South FTW, although probably not rising again.
//Too much sweet tea and Waffle House.


Yep. I personaly use wildflower honey to make my sweet green tea. I don't like it super sweet though. Just enough to give it a little body, and of course, sweetness. I think an ideal ratio is 3/4 cup of sugar per 1/2 gallon. I also belive this to be regional as well. I live pretty far north in the south here in central virginia. And I've found the further south you go, the sweeter the tea gets.
 
2011-04-24 11:32:55 AM
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/hot?
 
2011-04-24 11:34:58 AM
whatshisname: DoughyGuy: I think it's a case where they want to write about one thing, but there's already a thousand stories out there about it, so they decided to write it anyway and give it a catchy hook.

I'd rather read more about why they like tea, considering that was the whole point of the headline. I can read about the other stuff elsewhere.

The headline in the actual article had 'Tea' in capitals and quotation marks. The article was about the book, not the drink.


You got me there. But then the first paragraphs say that army officers are "obsessed" with drinking tea (no quotes), and that tea (again, no quotes) is the military's secret weapon.

I still contend this is the result of a writer being told he can't do another story about this subject because other people are already covering it, but does it anyway by putting a weird spin on it, hoping his editor won't read beyond the first two or three paragraphs.
 
2011-04-24 11:35:48 AM
The Brits got their tea drinking culture from the Indians (dots, not feathers). Now how did that particular piece of colonialism work out again?
 
2011-04-24 11:38:22 AM
DoughyGuy: whatshisname: DoughyGuy: I think it's a case where they want to write about one thing, but there's already a thousand stories out there about it, so they decided to write it anyway and give it a catchy hook.

I'd rather read more about why they like tea, considering that was the whole point of the headline. I can read about the other stuff elsewhere.

The headline in the actual article had 'Tea' in capitals and quotation marks. The article was about the book, not the drink.

You got me there. But then the first paragraphs say that army officers are "obsessed" with drinking tea (no quotes), and that tea (again, no quotes) is the military's secret weapon.

I still contend this is the result of a writer being told he can't do another story about this subject because other people are already covering it, but does it anyway by putting a weird spin on it, hoping his editor won't read beyond the first two or three paragraphs.


Actually... ignore me, and accept my apologies. I just noticed this is being run as an Opinion piece, rather than an actual News piece. Opinion pieces are allowed to be weird.

Disregard my comments.
 
2011-04-24 11:47:09 AM
DoughyGuy: DoughyGuy: whatshisname: DoughyGuy: I think it's a case where they want to write about one thing, but there's already a thousand stories out there about it, so they decided to write it anyway and give it a catchy hook.

I'd rather read more about why they like tea, considering that was the whole point of the headline. I can read about the other stuff elsewhere.

The headline in the actual article had 'Tea' in capitals and quotation marks. The article was about the book, not the drink.

You got me there. But then the first paragraphs say that army officers are "obsessed" with drinking tea (no quotes), and that tea (again, no quotes) is the military's secret weapon.

I still contend this is the result of a writer being told he can't do another story about this subject because other people are already covering it, but does it anyway by putting a weird spin on it, hoping his editor won't read beyond the first two or three paragraphs.

Actually... ignore me, and accept my apologies. I just noticed this is being run as an Opinion piece, rather than an actual News piece. Opinion pieces are allowed to be weird.

Disregard my comments.


No apologies necessary. I too was hoping to read something about the army enjoying tea and was disappointed to see it was just another twist on the Greg Mortensen saga.

I started reading "Three Cups of Tea" but put it down after a few chapters. I thought the writing was dreadful and the author's fawning over Mortensen was sickening.
 
2011-04-24 11:51:28 AM
I'm an excellent driver: The Brits got their tea drinking culture from the Indians (dots, not feathers). Now how did that particular piece of colonialism work out again?

China, actually.

As for the Indian occupation, when all's said and done I think India saw a net benefit from their colonization. The infrastructure and bureaucracy left behind by the Brits has been invaluable. India has been colonized for most of its modern history, but the colonists usually end up being subsumed by the Indian culture. It's just too strong to convert.
 
2011-04-24 12:01:58 PM
I have yet to find a tea that I can stand to drink, ditto for beer.

/coffee and liquor for me
 
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