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Edge.bot		2011-04-22 04:37:08 AM

mental health issues? nothing that cant be fixed with some .50 calibre anti-psychotic medications

GungFu		2011-04-22 04:42:07 AM

Texas Gabe: Has anyone noticed from the sidebars that Justin Beiber was murdered?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10007501.html?tag=galleryscroller

That's Ellen Page. She was in Inception.

blueyd1		2011-04-22 04:43:49 AM

When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

icepriestess		2011-04-22 05:10:04 AM

platedlizard: ...SH]he probably asked them to do so much crazy shiat, and then never followed through with any of it, that they thought she was just being her usual self.

Phew. Going to chalk that up to being tired while reading. It seems to that most of these creepy baby-desperate ladies who do things like this don't have kids of their own, so I think my mind jumped to that conclusion.

loconut3391		2011-04-22 05:13:23 AM

wait, wait, I think I've seen this one!

static.tvfanatic.com

balancing act		2011-04-22 05:14:05 AM

blueyd1: When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

Ha, I had the same creepy feeling. Probably because when I was pregnant with my daughter there was a high profile case where that happened.

wild9		2011-04-22 05:22:04 AM

I try to refrain from cursing but seriously. ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ************* sick woman needs the chair.

PunGent		2011-04-22 05:22:45 AM

balancing act: blueyd1: When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

Ha, I had the same creepy feeling. Probably because when I was pregnant with my daughter there was a high profile case where that happened.

Now THAT would make for a wild level in an FPS-type game...you're slow, move clumsily, and have to fend off knife-and-stun-gun wielding crazies.

/ya, I probably play too many computer games

The Blind Fury		2011-04-22 05:30:32 AM

Did she have some weird medical condition?

*reads article*

Oh, she's sick all right.

tutti		2011-04-22 05:40:35 AM

justoneznot: I think we need to change the relevancy in cases like this of whether or not these people are mentally stable or sane. Maybe it is generally irrelevant but I always read about defense attorneys trying to argue it. It shouldn't matter at all. If you kill someone and rip out their insides you need to either be put to death or locked up for the rest of your life. How does ones mental stability take away from the severity of their crime? What are you going to do, rehabilitate her in a mental hospital? She's not worth the trouble.

An insanity defense, even a successful one, is not a get out of jail free card. Someone who is determined insane in a court of law will usually face a longer time in a mental institution than they would in a prison, and they will often never see freedom again. A prison sentence will let you go you free after a determined time, while an insanity defense will not. If you do find that preferrable to a traditional sentence (e.g. if you're pacing a potential death penalty), you still need the defense to actually succeed, and if it doesn't, your case will have taken a hit that could possibly have been lessened with a more realistic defense. For these reasons, it's not common (or a good idea) to bring up mental issues as a defense unless there's a good indicator that mental issues are in fact present.

proteus_b		2011-04-22 05:46:15 AM

Captain James T. Smirk: This might be the most horrible thing I have read in months, and I just finished Atlas Shrugged.

how? i'm a bat-shiat crazy right winger and i couldn't get past about 200 pages or so...

ExperianScaresCthulhu		2011-04-22 05:48:56 AM

Texas Gabe: Has anyone noticed from the sidebars that Justin Beiber was murdered?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10007501.html?tag=galleryscroller

That ain't even funny ... "Cops: 15-year-old was lured to home, murdered, body disposed of in paint cans" .... I hate gallery stories.

"Authorities said the 16-year-old, who is not being identified because of his age, told investigators the group plotted the slaying because Bargo hated Seath. Authorities say Jackson was lured to the house by a text message. According to deputies, Jackson was hit in the head with a wooden object by Ely and Bargo, then shot multiple times by Bargo."

This is Bargo

i.i.com.com

They all got ratted out by a kid who was there who, instead of stopping it, went home to tell his parents. It's nice that he told his parents. It's not so nice that he didn't stop it. I guess the snitch was afraid of being icy hot stunted in the ass if as well if he intervened.

ExperianScaresCthulhu		2011-04-22 05:54:06 AM

The Angry Hand of God: Is it wrong that I want to give her an unnecessary C-section with no anesthesia, then f*ck the whole with my dick dipped in glue and glass (Kickboxer), until she cries for mercy and I just shove it in her eye?

I sympathize with you. You indulge in tough guy fantasy, and instead of having others say hell yeah the biatch deserves it! you get treated like you just farted on top of the punch bowl. :\

Well, anyway, I also hope Coy fries. Insanity is not an excuse. This wasn't impulsive, and she tried to get kids involved, too. I guess she missed all the cooing and oohing and aaawing and positive public attention which comes with a newborn. It's a drug, I tell ya. She just went to extreme lengths to get her crack fix.

Fry her.

Nidiot		2011-04-22 05:54:47 AM

justoneznot: I think we need to change the relevancy in cases like this of whether or not these people are mentally stable or sane. Maybe it is generally irrelevant but I always read about defense attorneys trying to argue it. It shouldn't matter at all. If you kill someone and rip out their insides you need to either be put to death or locked up for the rest of your life. How does ones mental stability take away from the severity of their crime? What are you going to do, rehabilitate her in a mental hospital? She's not worth the trouble.

This.

Obviously she is not sane, and as far as I can tell all that means is that she should never be allowed loose on a civil society ever again.

The way insanity seems to get used is to make it an excuse for bad behaviour. Rather the real issue is that the farking insane person will never be safe to society and therefore we need to remove them permanently in order to safeguard those who are not insane. Not pat them on the head and say "nevermind it wasn't your fault, you were insane when you murdered that person". The murdered person isn't any less dead just because the murderer was insane.

proteus_b		2011-04-22 05:55:20 AM

tutti: An insanity defense, even a successful one, is not a get out of jail free card. Someone who is determined insane in a court of law will usually face a longer time in a mental institution than they would in a prison, and they will often never see freedom again. A prison sentence will let you go you free after a determined time, while an insanity defense will not. If you do find that preferrable to a traditional sentence (e.g. if you're pacing a potential death penalty), you still need the defense to actually succeed, and if it doesn't, your case will have taken a hit that could possibly have been lessened with a more realistic defense. For these reasons, it's not common (or a good idea) to bring up mental issues as a defense unless there's a good indicator that mental issues are in fact present.

citation, please? or is this just some bullshiat you made up?

tutti		2011-04-22 06:08:17 AM

proteus_b: tutti: An insanity defense, even a successful one, is not a get out of jail free card. Someone who is determined insane in a court of law will usually face a longer time in a mental institution than they would in a prison, and they will often never see freedom again. A prison sentence will let you go you free after a determined time, while an insanity defense will not. If you do find that preferrable to a traditional sentence (e.g. if you're pacing a potential death penalty), you still need the defense to actually succeed, and if it doesn't, your case will have taken a hit that could possibly have been lessened with a more realistic defense. For these reasons, it's not common (or a good idea) to bring up mental issues as a defense unless there's a good indicator that mental issues are in fact present.

citation, please? or is this just some bullshiat you made up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense

"Those found to have been not guilty by reason of insanity are generally then required to undergo psychiatric treatment, except in the case of temporary insanity (see below). Defendants found not guilty by reason of insanity are generally placed in a mental institution. Unlike defendants who are found guilty of a crime, they are not institutionalized for a fixed period, but rather held in the institution until they are determined not to be a threat."

proteus_b		2011-04-22 06:11:05 AM

tutti: "Those found to have been not guilty by reason of insanity are generally then required to undergo psychiatric treatment, except in the case of temporary insanity (see below). Defendants found not guilty by reason of insanity are generally placed in a mental institution. Unlike defendants who are found guilty of a crime, they are not institutionalized for a fixed period, but rather held in the institution until they are determined not to be a threat."

yeah, indeterminate can be longer or shorter than the corresponding criminal penalty. typically someone convicted of 1st or 2nd degree murder will spend 25 to life in prison. is there any evidence that they will receive MORE had they been found not guilty by reason of insanity?

tutti		2011-04-22 06:20:22 AM

proteus_b: tutti: "Those found to have been not guilty by reason of insanity are generally then required to undergo psychiatric treatment, except in the case of temporary insanity (see below). Defendants found not guilty by reason of insanity are generally placed in a mental institution. Unlike defendants who are found guilty of a crime, they are not institutionalized for a fixed period, but rather held in the institution until they are determined not to be a threat."

yeah, indeterminate can be longer or shorter than the corresponding criminal penalty. typically someone convicted of 1st or 2nd degree murder will spend 25 to life in prison. is there any evidence that they will receive MORE had they been found not guilty by reason of insanity?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/aron/qa227.htm
http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/insanity-defense

Really, I'm just googling this. It's not hard to find. And no, there's no evidence that they will spend longer in a mental institution than they would in prison, because that's not always the case.

proteus_b		2011-04-22 06:45:35 AM

tutti: Someone who is determined insane in a court of law will usually face a longer time in a mental institution than they would in a prison, and they will often never see freedom again

sorry i could have sworn that someone said something like this.

yes i'm sure being in a mental home is no walk in the park. beats doing 25 to life (to death) for murder, especially if you get out after ten years.

tutti		2011-04-22 06:58:52 AM

proteus_b: tutti: Someone who is determined insane in a court of law will usually face a longer time in a mental institution than they would in a prison, and they will often never see freedom again

sorry i could have sworn that someone said something like this.

yes i'm sure being in a mental home is no walk in the park. beats doing 25 to life (to death) for murder, especially if you get out after ten years.

Ugh, fine, I don't have a citation for that particular sentence.

Pauel		2011-04-22 07:03:48 AM

If ever there was a reason to keep capital punishment. This biatch isn't fit to breathe.

Jamieboy		2011-04-22 07:06:47 AM

Kittypie070: Everyone in the Comments section of that news article should be slow-roasted to death.

Especially whiteguysrule:

whiteguysrule April 21, 2011 11:46 PM EDT
how come when i read storys like this pretty girl doing horribel things, do I not care about the pretty girls that have horrible things done to them.

why does every story have a pretty girl involved? sex sells and your a prevert america.

jfc

Texas Gabe: Has anyone noticed from the sidebars that Justin Beiber was murdered?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10007501.html?tag=galleryscroller

After reading those two articles, I want to go back to bed and pull the covers over my head and cry for humanity. Some people are sick farking animals.

sk8r		2011-04-22 07:15:34 AM

blueyd1: When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

Glad to know I'm not the only one. There were a couple of cases like this when I was pregnant with my last kid. When complete strangers started asking baby questions it creeped me out. "Hm...you are due in 2 weeks?" (insert sounds of knife sharpening)

zomega		2011-04-22 07:17:09 AM

blueyd1: When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

I'm in my second trimester, and I've got that fear NOW.

KatjaMouse		2011-04-22 07:27:19 AM

Kittypie070: Everyone in the Comments section of that news article should be slow-roasted to death.

This is my favorite:

by No_Absolutes April 20, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
By jt92202 This has NOTHING to do with Abortion!! The mother was carring her child to full term, the killer wasn't trying to abort the child she was trying to steal the child! Don't bring your debate into this story!! You can keep your opinion to yourself it's not relevent.....

You're wrong JT92202. This has plenty to do with abortion in terms of public perception. When this baby was snatched from the mother's womb, the public reacts by calling it sick and twisted and everyone is terribly offended. but when the 800,000 babies aborted every year are snatched from their mothers' wombs, people say thats ok, its just a matter of choice. Either way, you have a a completely innocent baby being snatched from the sanctity of the womb and if you're offended once then you should be offended 800,000 times.

dr.zaeus		2011-04-22 07:31:56 AM

Having an eight month old at home right now, this story makes me sad and all kinds of stabby.

AbbeySomeone		2011-04-22 07:45:41 AM

Put me on the bus with those that say she should be put down, crazy defense doesn't even begin to cover her issues.

Lard		2011-04-22 07:52:11 AM

zz9: This person should fry. "insane" or not.

My thoughts exactly. Shes got issues, and one of them is the brutal murder of a pregnant lady. There's not comeback from that, its perhaps the worst imaginable crime. This murderous woman has earned her hot-seat. My sympathies for the family of the murdered woman too... that's an impossible thing to come to terms with.

zomega: blueyd1: When I was in my last trimester, I remember thinking once or twice that I hoped no one tried to kill me and take my baby. It's a very weird feeling to have that fear.

I'm in my second trimester, and I've got that fear NOW.

My wife went through the same kind of fears too, you'll be fine!

dr.zaeus: Having an eight month old at home right now, this story makes me sad and all kinds of stabby.

Mines 14 months, so very much ^^^ this.

StokeyBob		2011-04-22 08:06:22 AM

Was it really necessary to distend a uterus into the headline?

Lance Russell's Nose		2011-04-22 08:11:23 AM

oi_piss_me_off: ....wtf is wrong with her?!

She's from Butler County, which is in a league of its own when it comes to crazy.

This comes a few weeks shy of the 8th anniversary of the Katie Autry killing. Some guy raped her in her dorm room and then set her on fire; she later died from the injuries.

From the "I [heart] BG" Facebook page: "We love Bowling Green, Kentucky. We love the folks, the community, the heritage and all the good that is found here. Spread the love!"

/representin'

poot_rootbeer		2011-04-22 08:16:54 AM

If you're not bright enough to leave the uterus at home, you're not going to pull off imitating insanity to avoid prison.

doubled99		2011-04-22 08:32:00 AM

Captain James T. Smirk 2011-04-22 02:59:35 AM

I have no idea how to adequately describe my reaction. This might be the most horrible thing I have read in months, and I just finished Atlas Shrugged.

Don't feel bad you couldn't understand it.
It's okay, stick to books with big pictures next time.

FaceRape		2011-04-22 08:32:02 AM

Has anyone ever got away with this?

Miss Stein		2011-04-22 08:37:18 AM

Captain James T. Smirk: Acharne: Somacandra: I put on my robe and wizard hat. I then tie my robe with an umbilical cord.

*Snert*

x2

Ovary funny. Not to belabor the point, but this is a serious thread. Placenta with a subdued attitude. No matter how you slice it, levity is uncalled for. You're being as rude as if you walked right into her funeral cervix and started cracking jokes.

Period.

Burchill		2011-04-22 08:37:33 AM

The "Sharon Tate" of the story

Quantum Apostrophe		2011-04-22 08:43:59 AM

At least she decided to be an adult and have a kid, any kid. To be truly insane is to choose to remain childless.

jafiwam		2011-04-22 08:49:45 AM

This is the one type of "OMG crazy" that women only inflict on other women.

Sometimes you gotta look on the bright side.

LeglessDog		2011-04-22 08:55:53 AM

I know I'm not the only one who wants photos . . .

The Victim:
wkrn.images.worldnow.com

The Murderer:
stupidcelebrities.net

omegazeto		2011-04-22 08:57:48 AM

doubled99: Captain James T. Smirk 2011-04-22 02:59:35 AM

I have no idea how to adequately describe my reaction. This might be the most horrible thing I have read in months, and I just finished Atlas Shrugged.

Don't feel bad you couldn't understand it.
It's okay, stick to books with big pictures next time.

Came here to say this. But really, this is Fark. We all know Fark is left winged, socialist, full of ITGs and armchair experts, who basically either spout their own ignorant drivel or whatever the latest fad in college professors told them to think.

sleeper2995		2011-04-22 09:00:41 AM

She has no idea how much kids cost these days. If she did I don't think she would have went to all that trouble.

Quantum Apostrophe		2011-04-22 09:02:20 AM

Hey, technically, her uterus and ovaries were still in her body, subby.

Anyways, can we please find a way to blame men for this? This story might lead people to believe that women aren't perfect and better than men.

PsyLord		2011-04-22 09:18:23 AM

SpaceyCat: O.o

Yeah... how about no. She should not be near women or children. The men might want to consider not sticking their dick in this crazy either...

FTA: Winn said Coy approached her 13-year-old daughter in early April about taking part in such a plot. When the daughter balked, Coy passed it off as a joke, Winn said.

Soon after, Coy approached her 14-year-old son and asked if he would take part in a murder, Winn said. The son refused and Coy didn't bring it up again, the detective testified.

Jebus, she has kids of her own... but I guess they had some sense since they rejected her request for help.

omegazeto		2011-04-22 09:19:24 AM

PsyLord: SpaceyCat: O.o

Yeah... how about no. She should not be near women or children. The men might want to consider not sticking their dick in this crazy either...

FTA: Winn said Coy approached her 13-year-old daughter in early April about taking part in such a plot. When the daughter balked, Coy passed it off as a joke, Winn said.

Soon after, Coy approached her 14-year-old son and asked if he would take part in a murder, Winn said. The son refused and Coy didn't bring it up again, the detective testified.

Jebus, she has kids of her own... but I guess they had some sense since they rejected her request for help.

No, Coy approached Winn's kids.
I know, vague grammar in TFA...

PsyLord		2011-04-22 09:25:08 AM

omegazeto: PsyLord: SpaceyCat: O.o

Yeah... how about no. She should not be near women or children. The men might want to consider not sticking their dick in this crazy either...

FTA: Winn said Coy approached her 13-year-old daughter in early April about taking part in such a plot. When the daughter balked, Coy passed it off as a joke, Winn said.

Soon after, Coy approached her 14-year-old son and asked if he would take part in a murder, Winn said. The son refused and Coy didn't bring it up again, the detective testified.

Jebus, she has kids of her own... but I guess they had some sense since they rejected her request for help.

No, Coy approached Winn's kids.
I know, vague grammar in TFA...

Umm... I don't think you read it right. Besides, why would Coy approach Winn's kids? Chad Winn is the Kentucky State Police Detective making the statement to the press.

bump		2011-04-22 09:26:33 AM

But really, this is Fark. We all know Fark is left winged, socialist, full of ITGs and armchair experts, who basically either spout their own ignorant drivel or whatever the latest fad in college professors told them to think.

You say that as if it's a bad thing...

No Such Agency		2011-04-22 09:30:27 AM

KatjaMouse:
You're wrong JT92202. This has plenty to do with abortion in terms of public perception. When this baby was snatched from the mother's womb, the public reacts by calling it sick and twisted and everyone is terribly offended. but when the 800,000 babies aborted every year are snatched from their mothers' wombs, people say thats ok, its just a matter of choice. Either way, you have a a completely innocent baby being snatched from the sanctity of the womb and if you're offended once then you should be offended 800,000 times.

[blob of cells.jpg]
"I HAVE A SOUL! MAGIC IS REAL!"

My wife is pregnant right now... but even I understand that until the "baby" develops its own internal organs and nervous system and all that complex stuff that pro-lifers with a sixth-grade science education don't comprehend... IT'S A BLOB OF HUMAN TISSUE, not a "person".

And the only abortions that happen anywhere near term are therapeutic ones, where the mother is in danger or the baby is horribly deformed and would not live anyway. But of course since you hate women and their reproductive organs, you would want them to suffer, right?

/trolled?

omegazeto		2011-04-22 09:39:54 AM

PsyLord: omegazeto: PsyLord: SpaceyCat: O.o

Yeah... how about no. She should not be near women or children. The men might want to consider not sticking their dick in this crazy either...

FTA: Winn said Coy approached her 13-year-old daughter in early April about taking part in such a plot. When the daughter balked, Coy passed it off as a joke, Winn said.

Soon after, Coy approached her 14-year-old son and asked if he would take part in a murder, Winn said. The son refused and Coy didn't bring it up again, the detective testified.

Jebus, she has kids of her own... but I guess they had some sense since they rejected her request for help.

No, Coy approached Winn's kids.
I know, vague grammar in TFA...

Umm... I don't think you read it right. Besides, why would Coy approach Winn's kids? Chad Winn is the Kentucky State Police Detective making the statement to the press.

Holy shiat, double-cague grammar in that article... And I call myself a cunning linguist!

omegazeto		2011-04-22 09:40:32 AM

*vague

Time to put down the mountain dew and go to sleep!

KatjaMouse		2011-04-22 09:42:17 AM

No Such Agency: KatjaMouse:
You're wrong JT92202. This has plenty to do with abortion in terms of public perception. When this baby was snatched from the mother's womb, the public reacts by calling it sick and twisted and everyone is terribly offended. but when the 800,000 babies aborted every year are snatched from their mothers' wombs, people say thats ok, its just a matter of choice. Either way, you have a a completely innocent baby being snatched from the sanctity of the womb and if you're offended once then you should be offended 800,000 times.

[blob of cells.jpg]
"I HAVE A SOUL! MAGIC IS REAL!"

My wife is pregnant right now... but even I understand that until the "baby" develops its own internal organs and nervous system and all that complex stuff that pro-lifers with a sixth-grade science education don't comprehend... IT'S A BLOB OF HUMAN TISSUE, not a "person".

And the only abortions that happen anywhere near term are therapeutic ones, where the mother is in danger or the baby is horribly deformed and would not live anyway. But of course since you hate women and their reproductive organs, you would want them to suffer, right?

/trolled?

That was the comment, not my own. I Italed the upper portion because that was a quoted comment within the comment and then I bolded the WTF statement of the comment. You'll see me popping up once in a while in abortion threads defending Planned Parenthood or linking to "The only Moral Abortion is MY Abortion" sites.

So, I chalk it up to poor use of HTML skills. Wasn't trying to troll.

As for late term abortions my old OB/GYN took in death threats on a daily basis because he openly testified to congress about his use of partial birth abortion and late term terminations. If I were a prolifer I doubt I would've been going to that guy for my annual pap smear. However in his testimony he said since he was one of the very few doctors who performed the procedure in the region he would get lots of referred patients from other practices. A bulk of them were women who were having such severe complications that there was no feasible way that mom could carry to term without dying. Other times with late sonograms and monitoring a deformity and abnormal development might finally be detected that would lead to a rather heart breaking choice.

So rather than being some baby killing monster that the pro-lifers would like to paint him the guy was exercising his judgment as a HEALTH professional and did what he believed was the best course of action for his patients and referrals.

cryinoutloud		2011-04-22 09:47:08 AM

Coy drove to the home of a friend and said she had given birth to the baby, Winn said. The friend told troopers that Coy was in a car, wearing no pants and sitting on the placenta while holding the baby, who had grass on him, Winn said.

Nothing wrong with her mental state. Death penalty.

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