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(Guardian)   You've just won the Spanish Cup. What are you going to do now? I'm going to get the trophy crushed by the team bus during the victory parade   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 63
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2011-04-21 07:22:53 AM  
If he's not wearing one, neither am i.
 
2011-04-21 07:36:14 AM  
[insert obvious Ramos caught out of position joke which I'm too lazy to think up]
 
2011-04-21 07:39:49 AM  
More like Spanish Plate, am I right?
 
2011-04-21 07:51:01 AM  
That was a really good match. The whole 2nd half it felt the Barca goal was inevitable. Real looked tired, Barca energized. And then the last few minutes of regulation changed everything.

It was also really well officiated.

And that offside call, brutal. I mean technically correct, but brutal. I'm not sure why the law is written like that to cause a player to be offside eventhough his feet, hips and shoulders are even with the defender.
 
2011-04-21 07:57:37 AM  
MugzyBrown what a match! the keepers were phenomenal!
Iker stopped at least 5 goals, while Pinto flicked a sure goal from DiMaria in injury time!
 
2011-04-21 08:00:21 AM  
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2011-04-21 08:00:26 AM  
video (new window)
 
2011-04-21 08:09:51 AM  
I've heard that Ramos is considering a move to Arsenal so this can never happen again.
 
2011-04-21 08:10:32 AM  
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2011-04-21 08:26:32 AM  
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2011-04-21 08:26:37 AM  
Good thing he plays a sport where he doesn't need to use his hands.
 
2011-04-21 08:30:54 AM  
Ramos is just one of those guys who doesn't quite have it all together and aside from this hilarious incident, that's pretty much why the merengue faithful blindly support him. He's almost like this eternal teen-ager, big heart, good intentions but not always focused. Recall his late night out before a game during the last European Championships, a few video clips of him doing the botellon thing, and even once leaving a game at the half to go watch a bullfight...

...all is forgiven today though - Ramos is developing into a shut-down defender; capable of containing the likes of Messi, Villa or Pedro and ready to go toe-to-toe with bruisers Pique and Busquets any time.
 
2011-04-21 08:33:11 AM  
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
 
2011-04-21 08:33:43 AM  

bwesb: .

...all is forgiven today though - Ramos is developing into a shut-down defender; capable of containing the likes of Messi, Villa or Pedro and ready to go toe-to-toe with bruisers Pique and Busquets any time.

Iker saved Madrid's arse big time yesterday,
 
2011-04-21 08:42:02 AM  

amp82deuce: Did you see that ludicrous display last night?


What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
 
2011-04-21 08:49:51 AM  

guasacaca: amp82deuce: Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

What was Wenger thinking, sending taking Walcott on off that early?


FTFY
 
2011-04-21 09:09:17 AM  

bwesb: Ramos is just one of those guys who doesn't quite have it all together and aside from this hilarious incident, that's pretty much why the merengue faithful blindly support him. He's almost like this eternal teen-ager, big heart, good intentions but not always focused. Recall his late night out before a game during the last European Championships, a few video clips of him doing the botellon thing, and even once leaving a game at the half to go watch a bullfight...

...all is forgiven today though - Ramos is developing into a shut-down defender; capable of containing the likes of Messi, Villa or Pedro and ready to go toe-to-toe with bruisers Pique and Busquets any time.


He is still too prone to making rash challenges and earning bad cards.
 
2011-04-21 09:30:16 AM  

zoobaby: bwesb: Ramos is just one of those guys who doesn't quite have it all together and aside from this hilarious incident, that's pretty much why the merengue faithful blindly support him. He's almost like this eternal teen-ager, big heart, good intentions but not always focused. Recall his late night out before a game during the last European Championships, a few video clips of him doing the botellon thing, and even once leaving a game at the half to go watch a bullfight...

...all is forgiven today though - Ramos is developing into a shut-down defender; capable of containing the likes of Messi, Villa or Pedro and ready to go toe-to-toe with bruisers Pique and Busquets any time.

He is still too prone to making rash challenges and earning bad cards.


I heard on the radio (was at work so I couldn't watch) that Arbeloa should have been sent off. Is that true? Or where my radio hosts too Barca-biased?
 
2011-04-21 09:37:02 AM  

sotua: I heard on the radio (was at work so I couldn't watch) that Arbeloa should have been sent off. Is that true? Or where my radio hosts too Barca-biased?


There were times where a few players could have gotten 2nd yellows (Xabi), but the ref showed good restraint in my opinion.

The only call I think he got really hoodwinked on was the yellow Mascherano drew
 
2011-04-21 09:44:19 AM  

sotua: I heard on the radio (was at work so I couldn't watch) that Arbeloa should have been sent off. Is that true? Or where my radio hosts too Barca-biased?


Nope, they were correct.

He got up and deliberately stepped on Villa's leg. And before anyone says it's an accident, you don't accidentally step on someone when you're getting up. Maybe when you're falling down, but professional soccer players sure as hell know where their legs are.

Oh, and Pepe had about 4-5 yellow card worthy offenses and only received one. The referee let Madrid play physical and basically refused to give yellows out because he was afraid of having to give out a red, even if it was worthy.
 
2011-04-21 09:45:47 AM  

sotua: zoobaby: bwesb: Ramos is just one of those guys who doesn't quite have it all together and aside from this hilarious incident, that's pretty much why the merengue faithful blindly support him. He's almost like this eternal teen-ager, big heart, good intentions but not always focused. Recall his late night out before a game during the last European Championships, a few video clips of him doing the botellon thing, and even once leaving a game at the half to go watch a bullfight...

...all is forgiven today though - Ramos is developing into a shut-down defender; capable of containing the likes of Messi, Villa or Pedro and ready to go toe-to-toe with bruisers Pique and Busquets any time.

He is still too prone to making rash challenges and earning bad cards.

I heard on the radio (was at work so I couldn't watch) that Arbeloa should have been sent off. Is that true? Or where my radio hosts too Barca-biased?


If Capt is saying they were correct, you know they were Barca-biased.
 
2011-04-21 09:53:43 AM  
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2011-04-21 10:03:11 AM  

TonnageVT: If Capt is saying they were correct, you know they were Barca-biased.


Yep, or you can look up the video where he clearly stepped on his leg instead of pointlessly running your mouth like always.
 
2011-04-21 10:13:11 AM  
The way I saw it was that Villa took down Arbeloa from behind when Arbeloa had beaten him to the ball and both players went down. When Arbeloa got up he did step on Villa's ankle - did he stomp down on it? No. As is the case with Villa recently, especially since he's gone 10 games without finding the net now, he tried to sell it for more than in was and both Arbeloa and Ramos called him on it (all three serve for the national side as well so it isn't like they are strangers).

Of course that isn't how the Catalans see it but this is Real Madrid/Barcelona - no one is ever going to walk away satisfied.

What should be a greater concern for the Catalans is the growing perception that David Villa is quickly becoming a world class diver.
 
2011-04-21 10:13:17 AM  

CaptMacMillian: Yep, or you can look up the video where he clearly stepped on his leg instead of pointlessly running your mouth like always.


Got a link there sailor?
 
2011-04-21 10:16:43 AM  
Made me think of this (new window).
 
2011-04-21 10:21:24 AM  

bartink: CaptMacMillian: Yep, or you can look up the video where he clearly stepped on his leg instead of pointlessly running your mouth like always.

Got a link there sailor?


Here's the video. (new window)

I don't think that's accidental. But then Villa oversells it like crazy, the RM guys get him up, it turns into a pushy-pushy, and that's that. Maybe if the ref was standing right beside them he'd have drawn the card, but not a game breaker.
 
2011-04-21 10:23:31 AM  

guasacaca: amp82deuce: Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?


Thing about Arsenal is they always try and walk it in.
 
2011-04-21 10:32:59 AM  
I also find it funny that while there is obviously some camaraderie that exists between the merengues and the blaugranas, courtesy the national team, you did see Villa try to go at it with Arbeloa (justified) but then also Ramos and Casillas....

Looks to me like Villa instigated it, got the worst of it, couldn't sell it and then did his machismo bit to try and not lose face. Still, Arbeloa needs to chill, that should have been a yellow. You can't step on a player, even by accident.
 
2011-04-21 10:41:10 AM  
"El Mundo newspaper's website reported that the cup had been smashed into 10 different pieces. But Ramos later told the Telemadrid TV station: "The cup is all right."

Prove it. Show the cup itself.
 
2011-04-21 10:41:32 AM  
Also, RSL earned a draw in Mexico.

Go RSL...
 
2011-04-21 10:44:18 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: Also, RSL earned a draw in Mexico.

Go RSL...


I tried to watch that match, but after seeing Barca/Real, the disparity in quality was too much for my brain to handle.

My subconcious just kept saying.. this sucks, this sucks, this sucks
 
2011-04-21 10:44:42 AM  

bwesb: The way I saw it was that Villa took down Arbeloa from behind when Arbeloa had beaten him to the ball and both players went down. When Arbeloa got up he did step on Villa's ankle - did he stomp down on it? No.


I've never once stepped on a person's leg like accidentally where I didn't immediately try to stop putting weight on that foot and then usually apologize, especially if I know the person.

To see Arbeloa just step on Villa's leg and then walk like nothing at all happened is what actually makes it seem worse to me. He was pissed and decided that he'd just step on Villa's leg as he got up. It was intentional and he's lucky as hell to have no gotten at the very least a yellow card.

This isn't even mentioning when Pepe should have been given a yellow early on for stomping on Messi's ankle or when he drug his leg across the back of Pedro I think. Or the insane amount of times you see RM defenders just body checking Barca players away from the ball when they went to make runs.
 
2011-04-21 10:54:07 AM  
The trophy fell on to the tarmac in front of the moving bus and was run over. "The cup has fallen!" Ramos cried out.

Not "I dropped the cup!", mind you. No, that would sound like it was his fault, and we can't have that...
 
2011-04-21 10:56:44 AM  
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2011-04-21 11:00:17 AM  
To me, even more egregious than the leg-stepping (wasn't quite a stomp, but was full-body-weight nonetheless), was the no-look flying elbow when they were both lying in a heap. That could've been a serious injury had Villa been sitting further up/forward.

I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on. Having played adult-league pick-up (mostly low-contact), I'd much prefer a shoulder to the sternum than studs to my ankle.
 
2011-04-21 11:09:35 AM  

Loomy: I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on.


If you want to turn soccer into a sport filled with large, unskilled players, then that's the way to do it.

Much like Hockey devolved into during the early 90's. That was fun.
 
2011-04-21 11:10:33 AM  
Congrats to Madrid. They took their chances, and Barça didn't. Tactically, Mourinho is posing problems to Barça that Guardiola has no answer for. Putting Pepe the Caveman at DM has really disrupted the flow of Barça's midfield. Hopefully, Pep can work something out in the next 6 days. Maybe quicker attacking movements or a formation change are in order.
 
2011-04-21 11:16:44 AM  

bwesb: I also find it funny that while there is obviously some camaraderie that exists between the merengues and the blaugranas, courtesy the national team, you did see Villa try to go at it with Arbeloa (justified) but then also Ramos and Casillas....

Looks to me like Villa instigated it, got the worst of it, couldn't sell it and then did his machismo bit to try and not lose face. Still, Arbeloa needs to chill, that should have been a yellow. You can't step on a player, even by accident.


The "step" was deliberate, thus card worthy.

The ref let them play and refused to give cards for many card worthy offenses both ways. I think the ref let comments by RM players about playing with 10 men get to him. He gave lots of fouls, but few cards. Pepe should have been booked multiple times. Alonso, man crush, should have gotten more than the one he got for the American football tackle.

I expect RM to be physical in the CL matches. They just learned how to play Barca. But if they play physical like that, unless the ref is English, expect many yellows and a maybe a red or two.
 
2011-04-21 11:18:14 AM  

FormlessOne: The trophy fell on to the tarmac in front of the moving bus and was run over. "The cup has fallen!" Ramos cried out.

Not "I dropped the cup!", mind you. No, that would sound like it was his fault, and we can't have that...


In Spanish those two sayings are nearly identical ("se ha caído" or "se me ha caído").
 
2011-04-21 11:18:55 AM  
Forgot to add this. This game showed how excellent a coach Mourinho is. The man makes excellent tweaks in game and gets the most out of his players.
 
2011-04-21 11:25:44 AM  

Loomy: To me, even more egregious than the leg-stepping (wasn't quite a stomp, but was full-body-weight nonetheless), was the no-look flying elbow when they were both lying in a heap. That could've been a serious injury had Villa been sitting further up/forward.

I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on. Having played adult-league pick-up (mostly low-contact), I'd much prefer a shoulder to the sternum than studs to my ankle.


Body checking is legal in soccer when it's shoulder to shoulder. I took advantage of that when I was overweight... if someone wanted to cover me, I'd just lean a little to their side and keep running... good luck displacing me. Of course, I also was like a juggernaut, unstoppable momentum but also very hard to change directions and got very tired and my joints ached like crazy the next day. I can't pull that stuff anymore since I've lost 25 pounds, but now I can actually change directions and run all match long, and when I wake up the other day I don't feel like I fell down a very long flight of stairs.
 
2011-04-21 11:26:32 AM  
The first thing I'd do was look up what the Spanish Cup was for.

Oh. Soccer. Who gives a fark. Run it over with a bus. See if I care.
 
2011-04-21 11:35:11 AM  

zoobaby: Forgot to add this. This game showed how excellent a coach Mourinho is. The man makes excellent tweaks in game and gets the most out of his players.


Actually, I think Mourinho made the better pre-game tweaks and Pep made the better in-game tweaks.

After half-time Barca dominated the game and Madrid's goal came completely against the run of play.

SigmaAlgebra: Congrats to Madrid. They took their chances, and Barça didn't. Tactically, Mourinho is posing problems to Barça that Guardiola has no answer for. Putting Pepe the Caveman at DM has really disrupted the flow of Barça's midfield. Hopefully, Pep can work something out in the next 6 days. Maybe quicker attacking movements or a formation change are in order.


Actually, I think that Pep found the answer but Barca were just unlucky.

It's never going to be easy to score against Madrid when they basically have 7 defenders on the field but Barca dominated the game in the second half.

Messi looked to be pushing out wide more and Villa moving more centrally. Madrid were loading up the center of the field to stop Messi and once he moved out wide he started finding more of the ball.

The most important thing glossed over is that Barca are an injured wreck at the moment. If Puyol and Abidal are fit Ronaldo never gets to that header. Instead he jumped over Mascherano. Not to mention Villa not being able to hit the net and Pedro still working his way back. I think that if Bojan were fit he'd probably have gotten the start over Villa or Pedro.
 
2011-04-21 11:36:44 AM  

MugzyBrown: Loomy: I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on.

If you want to turn soccer into a sport filled with large, unskilled players, then that's the way to do it.

Much like Hockey devolved into during the early 90's. That was fun.


I'll give you that; it probably wouldn't take long for rosters to be infiltrated by bruisers. I guess it didn't seem so bad in yesterday's match, but it probably had one of the highest-skilled 22 of most matches ever. I guess I'd just prefer more jostling instead of dangerous ankle tackles ("Free kick?! No way! I totally got the ball!" *picks skin, blood and sock out of his studs*), but you're right, it would literally knock the Messis of the world out of the game, and that would suck, big time.
 
2011-04-21 11:36:57 AM  

Loomy: I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on. Having played adult-league pick-up (mostly low-contact), I'd much prefer a shoulder to the sternum than studs to my ankle.


I also like the shoulder-to-shoulder contact, however, I don't when it's away from the ball and being done to just stop runs from the other team.

It's dirty play and if the referee's had any balls they would have started giving yellows for it.
 
2011-04-21 11:48:37 AM  
Lord Stanley rolls over in his grave.
 
2011-04-21 11:52:20 AM  
warwick_hunt

With that "It's always been my dream to play for Aston Villa, yeah" face he's sporting it's not entirely implausible for him to do this. I'm even reading what I type in Stan Collymore's voice, that's the impression I get *purely* from that picture.
 
2011-04-21 11:55:03 AM  

CaptMacMillian: Loomy: I personally like the body-checking (shoulder barges, aren't they called? I'm a canadian hockey fan, with minimal non-CL/EPL club football watching experience), and was surprised how many free kicks were given for shoulder/chest contact early on. Having played adult-league pick-up (mostly low-contact), I'd much prefer a shoulder to the sternum than studs to my ankle.

I also like the shoulder-to-shoulder contact, however, I don't when it's away from the ball and being done to just stop runs from the other team.

It's dirty play and if the referee's had any balls they would have started giving yellows for it.


Away from the play, certainly not. I just remember one early on yesterday where a midfield/forward of Real's appeared to attempt to juke and dribble around an opponent, and they just didn't bite, so, as he carried forward w/ the ball, he simply ran into the Barca player who held his ground the entire time. *Whistle, arm goes up pointing to Barca's goal-end*

I just couldn't understand how not letting a player dribble through you was grounds for a foul against. I'll admit I don't watch enough matches to have a solid foundation of what's 'allowed', regardless of the laws, but that play struck me as odd (and perhaps it was, or the official saw some unwarranted aggression in the defender's actions).

As a casual observer, I think I was spoiled yesterday w/ the skill level. I probably wouldn't enjoy a game where players are barged down away from the play, or illegally off the ball w/o repercussion.
 
2011-04-21 12:10:42 PM  
Better Headline:
Real unable to defend Cup.
 
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