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(Some Guy)   Progressive student: "We should tax the rich to give the poor more opportunity." Conservative: "So you'd be cool with me taking some points off your GPA to give the dumb some opportunity, right?" Progressive student:   (thelookingspoon.com) divider line 631
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2011-04-18 05:22:04 PM

erveek: Phil Herup talks about deflection.


I don't understand why anyone humors that asshat.
 
2011-04-18 06:27:07 PM

lennavan: NoisyPiper: You have somewhat of a point here, but class percentage does not hold much weight in many fields. That said, most college grads don't even get hired, even the high-performing ones. And if they do, it's likely not in the field they were trained in.

At least, for liberal arts degrees.

You make a great point here which brings up another distinction between money and GPA.

A 4.0 science GPA is quite different than a 4.0 liberal arts GPA.

Who hasn't wanted to beat a liberal arts major complaining about how long their multiple choice tests are?


I haven't had a multiple choice test in 3 years, except for the fluff class that I'm taking simply to fill credits. Engineers and the like, on the other hand, mostly have multiple choice. Now, that being said, here its like 12 choices per question.

Not saying my degree is super awesome, but its the exact opposite in my experience
 
2011-04-18 06:55:59 PM
If someone asked me to trade my high GPA for someone else's low GPA, I'd ask, "How much are you going to pay me?"

My guess it that people with low grades don't have any money (after all, they are inferior students, right?) so the whole point is moot.
 
2011-04-18 07:40:22 PM
Still suckered by the shiatty headline analogy, huh, guys?
 
2011-04-18 07:58:33 PM

Phil Herup: erveek: Phil Herup: Thune: you know we are talking about Federal income tax.



Dude.... every tax thread involves an attempt to redirect the point away from this fact by the FARK LibsTM. The left can not logically debate in income tax threads, so they have to bring up the other taxes every time.

Phil Herup knows that the poor pay taxes, so he tries to limit all debate on taxes to income tax and nothing else.


*NEWSFLASH* Nearly every discussion about taxes on FARK is about INCOME taxes. The discussions are about INCOME taxes.

Yet in every thread about income taxes, the FARK LibsTM try to deflect away from them.


I guess that you just can't read, 'cause it has been said a shiatload of times.


And I guess the only way your ideology makes sense is if you pretend income taxes exist in a vacuum.
 
2011-04-18 09:06:53 PM

jchuffyman: lennavan: NoisyPiper: You have somewhat of a point here, but class percentage does not hold much weight in many fields. That said, most college grads don't even get hired, even the high-performing ones. And if they do, it's likely not in the field they were trained in.

At least, for liberal arts degrees.

You make a great point here which brings up another distinction between money and GPA.

A 4.0 science GPA is quite different than a 4.0 liberal arts GPA.

Who hasn't wanted to beat a liberal arts major complaining about how long their multiple choice tests are?

I haven't had a multiple choice test in 3 years, except for the fluff class that I'm taking simply to fill credits. Engineers and the like, on the other hand, mostly have multiple choice. Now, that being said, here its like 12 choices per question.

Not saying my degree is super awesome, but its the exact opposite in my experience


Apparently you go to a liberal arts college with a shiat engineering program.
 
2011-04-18 09:20:10 PM

lennavan: jchuffyman: lennavan: NoisyPiper: You have somewhat of a point here, but class percentage does not hold much weight in many fields. That said, most college grads don't even get hired, even the high-performing ones. And if they do, it's likely not in the field they were trained in.

At least, for liberal arts degrees.

You make a great point here which brings up another distinction between money and GPA.

A 4.0 science GPA is quite different than a 4.0 liberal arts GPA.

Who hasn't wanted to beat a liberal arts major complaining about how long their multiple choice tests are?

I haven't had a multiple choice test in 3 years, except for the fluff class that I'm taking simply to fill credits. Engineers and the like, on the other hand, mostly have multiple choice. Now, that being said, here its like 12 choices per question.

Not saying my degree is super awesome, but its the exact opposite in my experience

Apparently you go to a liberal arts college with a shiat engineering program.


lol

I go to an engineering school with a shiat liberal arts program
 
2011-04-18 09:22:15 PM

jchuffyman: lennavan: jchuffyman: lennavan: NoisyPiper: You have somewhat of a point here, but class percentage does not hold much weight in many fields. That said, most college grads don't even get hired, even the high-performing ones. And if they do, it's likely not in the field they were trained in.

At least, for liberal arts degrees.

You make a great point here which brings up another distinction between money and GPA.

A 4.0 science GPA is quite different than a 4.0 liberal arts GPA.

Who hasn't wanted to beat a liberal arts major complaining about how long their multiple choice tests are?

I haven't had a multiple choice test in 3 years, except for the fluff class that I'm taking simply to fill credits. Engineers and the like, on the other hand, mostly have multiple choice. Now, that being said, here its like 12 choices per question.

Not saying my degree is super awesome, but its the exact opposite in my experience

Apparently you go to a liberal arts college with a shiat engineering program.

lol

I go to an engineering school with a shiat liberal arts program

Six Virginia Tech undergraduate engineering specialties ranked among the top 20 of their respective peer programs (aerospace engineering, 10th; civil engineering, 7th; electrical engineering, 17th; engineering science and mechanics, 8th; environmental engineering, 9th; industrial engineering, 4th; and mechanical engineering, 14th, Biological System Engineering, 8th). Its graduate program in Engineering is considered among the first 20 in US, among all public and private universities, with strong emphasis on intensive interdisciplinary research.
 
2011-04-18 10:03:31 PM
You cant have a multiple choice engineering exam. Maybe in some minor aspects, but no farking way in the main stuff.

NOTHING is harder than a serious engineering degree. Medical and Law are easier (though longer and more boring).
 
2011-04-18 10:08:25 PM

gaspode: You cant have a multiple choice engineering exam. Maybe in some minor aspects, but no farking way in the main stuff.

NOTHING is harder than a serious engineering degree. Medical and Law are easier (though longer and more boring).


yeah, I exaggerated a bit (quite a bit) since he was on a liberal arts rant. But it is true, in total, my engineering roommate has had more multiple choice exams than I have.

/Yes, its hard as shiat
//I just like farking with anti-liberal arts people
 
2011-04-18 11:43:04 PM
JohnnyC
I don't understand why anyone humors that asshat.

Does Fark give new users a tutorial for the ignore feature? If not that could explain part of it.
 
2011-04-19 12:16:16 AM

RanDomino: Does Fark give new users a tutorial for the ignore feature? If not that could explain part of it.


I think the ignore list originally was a TotalFark thing, but they made it available for everyone a long time ago. Some people pride themselves on not using the ignore list. My ignore list is like the who's who of trolls, asshats, posers, racists, and threadshiatters.
 
2011-04-19 12:27:34 AM
JohnnyC
My ignore list is like the who's who of trolls, asshats, posers, racists, and threadshiatters.

How long have I been on it?
 
2011-04-19 01:13:21 AM

RanDomino: How long have I been on it?


You're not. Sorry... guess I haven't witnessed you being that much of a useless asshat yet.
 
2011-04-19 01:30:30 AM

JohnnyC: RanDomino: Does Fark give new users a tutorial for the ignore feature? If not that could explain part of it.

I think the ignore list originally was a TotalFark thing, but they made it available for everyone a long time ago. Some people pride themselves on not using the ignore list. My ignore list is like the who's who of trolls, asshats, posers, racists, and threadshiatters.



I love when the stupid or the trolls (not mutually exclusive) say that ignore is because people can't handle debating with them. Sort of like a retard who thinks they are genius. My feeling is the same with someone else's screaming child in public: I see no reason to get into it with them, they provide nothing but think they are the shiat. Little children with small minds.
 
2011-04-19 01:58:25 AM

Thune: I work for [a corporation] now.

And they do not "own", by fiat, the fruits of my labor.

I sell it to them, willingly.

It is a mutually benificial trade of money for services.

Free Market.

Learn something.


lulz. This dolt thinks he's selling his labor on a free market.

The deal you get from corporations may be mutually beneficial, but it is far from equally beneficial. It's a deal agreed upon between master and servant, not a deal made between equals. You need them more than they need you, and they take advantage of that inequality to exploit the lion's share of the profit of your labor from you.

You're a whore, selling yourself cheap by the hour. You could be a wife, owning 50% of it all, and able to walk out the door with your fair share.

A free market is only possible between equals, only possible when no agent in negotiation has exploitable power over the other. The world has yet to see a free market.

Meanwhile you're another idiot who doesn't understand the anarchist roots of libertarianism, and thus can't comprehend that only socialism -- real socialism, anarchist socialism, libertarian-socialism -- can bring about a truly free market.

What you call a free market is fascism. Wake the fark up and smell the coffee.
 
2011-04-19 02:51:22 AM
skepticultist
The deal you get from corporations may be mutually beneficial, but it is far from equally beneficial. It's a deal agreed upon between master and servant, not a deal made between equals. You need them more than they need you, and they take advantage of that inequality to exploit the lion's share of the profit of your labor from you.

Sign seen at Madison rallies: "Together, we bargain; Divided, we beg"

anarchist socialism, libertarian-socialism

represent!
 
2011-04-19 02:52:42 AM

skepticultist: What you call a free market is fascism. Wake the fark up and smell the coffee.


There is a stark difference.

Fascism involves getting arrested if you're not useful.
Free markets involves going hungry if you're not useful.

People should have to be useful, do you disagree?
 
2011-04-19 05:16:16 AM

Blairr: There is a stark difference.

Fascism involves getting arrested if you're not useful.
Free markets involves going hungry if you're not useful.

People should have to be useful, do you disagree?


Or they are no longer people?
 
2011-04-19 09:10:09 AM

gaspode: NOTHING is harder than a serious engineering degree. Medical and Law are easier (though longer and more boring).




How would you know? Do you have all three? You sound "serious".

Law and Medicine are both post graduate degrees. You may have a point with the three year law degree, but Medicine? The training is demanding on many levels and unless you have one, I'd say you're talking out your arse.



Cool Story Bro time:

We had a guy who was an engineer in our class. Real nice guy, but he had a heart attack in 3rd year brought on by the stress.
 
2011-04-19 09:32:53 AM

Phil Herup: gaspode: NOTHING is harder than a serious engineering degree. Medical and Law are easier (though longer and more boring).



How would you know? Do you have all three? You sound "serious".

Law and Medicine are both post graduate degrees. You may have a point with the three year law degree, but Medicine? The training is demanding on many levels and unless you have one, I'd say you're talking out your arse.



Cool Story Bro time:

We had a guy who was an engineer in our class. Real nice guy, but he had a heart attack in 3rd year brought on by the stress.


Phil Herup chose internet dentistry over engineering, to the detriment of Fark.
 
2011-04-19 12:19:28 PM

Phil Herup: How would you know? Do you have all three? You sound "serious".

Law and Medicine are both post graduate degrees. You may have a point with the three year law degree, but Medicine? The training is demanding on many levels and unless you have one, I'd say you're talking out your arse.


I love it. Phil starts with "how would you know, do you have all three" and then moves on to pretend like he knows.

Phil, I didn't know you were an M.D. a J.D. and an engineer.

You sound super "serious."
 
2011-04-19 12:50:13 PM

lennavan: then moves on to pretend like he knows.




I know a lot more about it than you do.

Do you ever get tired of being an idiot?
 
2011-04-19 01:03:17 PM

Phil Herup: I know a lot more about it than you do.

Do you ever get tired of being an idiot?


Now this we agree on. You absolutely know more about being an idiot than I do.
 
2011-04-19 01:23:36 PM

[yawn]
 
2011-04-19 03:25:04 PM
democrat: "i want to give the poor more opportunity"
volunteer: "great! no one's stopping you. come donate your time and money."
democrat: "well - i'd rather just pass a law that made everyone else cough up their money instead"
 
2011-04-19 03:31:31 PM

tgregory: democrat: "i want to give the poor more opportunity"
volunteer: "great! no one's stopping you. come donate your time and money."
democrat: "well - i'd rather just pass a law that made everyone else cough up their money instead"


Conservatives think poverty can be solved by just one person instead of everyone chipping in. Who knew?

I wonder what else can be solved by bootstrappyness.
 
2011-04-19 03:48:32 PM

lennavan: tgregory: democrat: "i want to give the poor more opportunity"
volunteer: "great! no one's stopping you. come donate your time and money."
democrat: "well - i'd rather just pass a law that made everyone else cough up their money instead"

Conservatives think poverty can be solved by just one person instead of everyone chipping in. Who knew?

I wonder what else can be solved by bootstrappyness.



no, conservatives think they can push religion down people's throats through law while democrats think they can push their beliefs down people's throats. they're identical...just pulling on opposite ends of the rope.

and what is "everyone chipping in"? wouldn't it be just one more person saying they're going to help?

voluntary help or forced "help"? in a free country, i choose voluntary.
 
2011-04-19 03:53:48 PM

tgregory: voluntary help or forced "help"? in a free country, i choose voluntary.


I agree. That's why I'm for voluntary paying for roads, voluntary funding of government programs and voluntary funding of the military.

Hey, if I wanted a big military, I'd fund it. What the fark do these people think, we live in some sort of society where decisions get made collectively and they don't always go my way? Fark that, not in my Amuricah.
 
2011-04-19 10:00:35 PM

Phil Herup: [yawn]


Phil Herup is bored, but he sticks around.
 
2011-04-20 07:20:07 PM

Thune: jchuffyman: Thune: EberhardKarl: Read it.
Analyze it.
Decide for yourself.

Marx's analysis has been brought into the 21st century by a number of his proponents, but both the core of his method and the beef of his criticism of capitalist political economy is still as relevant as they were in 1867.

If, after that you, want to ignore the rest of his and Engels' writing, go ahead. I could truly care less.

My best guess however, is that not a single Fark Independent or Conservative has made it through even Volume I of Capital. They don't know a bloody thing about the thing they most fear, which is likely in part why they fear it.


We haven't made it through Mein Kampf either, you suggest we read that one?

I have, but that was for historical interest. Also have read the Communist Manifesto, The Wealth of Nations, the Koran and other various influential books

Mein Kampf is the scariest farking book I've ever read


I don't really need to read Das Kapital, to know its crap.

The whole foundation of the book is that some people own other peoples labor.

That the collective owns the fruits of the individuals labor.

No, they don't.


Just as I suspected, you've been thoroughly mislead when it comes to the content of Das Kapital. Your simplistic attempt at presenting the foundation of the book is comical. This of course is not only because of the breadth of Marx's analysis of Capitalism, but because of your inability to reasonably digest an opinion other than your own.

I'm challenging you, read Capital, listen to the lectures, then make up your mind. Why is this such an offensive proposition to you? Shouldn't you understand something before you go opening your gob in public about it? Ironically, this is precisely what Marx and Engels did, both in the case of Capitalism and the philosophy of Hegel.
 
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