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(Some Guy)   Progressive student: "We should tax the rich to give the poor more opportunity." Conservative: "So you'd be cool with me taking some points off your GPA to give the dumb some opportunity, right?" Progressive student:   (thelookingspoon.com) divider line 631
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2011-04-17 10:33:44 PM  

tony41454: Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes


It's funny. He thinks the top 50% all qualify as "rich."

Funnier still -- this is all before Bush cut taxes on the rich.
 
2011-04-17 10:35:21 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: tony41454: Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes

It's funny. He thinks the top 50% all qualify as "rich."

Funnier still -- this is all before Bush cut taxes on the rich.


I like how he bases his argument only on "income" instead of "wealth" and even farks that up.
 
2011-04-17 10:35:42 PM  
Lenny_da_Hog Quote 2011-04-17 10:33:44 PM
tony41454: Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes

It's funny. He thinks the top 50% all qualify as "rich."

Funnier still -- this is all before Bush cut taxes on the rich.


Didn't read the article, did you? Didn't think so.
 
2011-04-17 10:36:22 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: You libs do realize that the root cause of quotas and affirmative action is that minority students and population in general are not performing to standard levels. When deep diving the issue you find that the problems start early in the educational and social environments that these minorities are subjected to. These environments are 100% a result of that liberal Johnson and his "Great Society" projects. What kind of a douche would think that warehousing poor uneducated minorities in large numbers separated from other peoples would in anyway help them? Look in the mirror libs----find a person needing affirmative action and find a liberal policy that got them there.


Segregation was a liberal policy?

/difficulty: "liberal" != "Democratic"
 
2011-04-17 10:38:07 PM  
Oh look, it's this shiat again.

This anology doesn't make sense no matter the number of times that it's vomited forth from conservative morons.
 
2011-04-17 10:38:13 PM  
I'll play--

tony41454: So, the simple minded respond. NOWT can't come up with anything original so he/she shows their ignorance. Tell me, O master of the Low IQ, what group in this country is responsible for creating the most jobs?


Workers. There is no "job" unless someone works.


Creating business?

Workers, who also happen to be the consumers supporting the businesses in question.


What does this country need more of right now?

Well-paid workers.


Jobs?

Not if by "job" you mean "slavery for less-than-adequate-and/or-fair wage".


Will the poor create jobs?

You mean, they can't currently afford to?


Will those on food stamps and welfare create jobs?

And yet, there seems to be some minimum level of wealth at which the "poor" can franchise themselves, using your own argument. At some point, you're halfway there, right?


No, Mr. Simple, it's the "rich," those with combined incomes of over $250,000 who own franchises, warehouses, print shops, etc., and the "super rich" who own factories.

Who use the citizenry, not as equals, but as lessers. Consider wealth distribution a further tax for becoming wealthy off the liberties of others.


Fine, you can advocate your socialist wealth spreading, but you'll sit on your arse and collect welfare, because there will be no jobs.

You mean, the rich will throw tantrums like spoiled brats who don't want to share, tho the health, peace and -prosperity- of a nation would be raised ever-so-much?


(Man, some people are just DENSE.)

That's a given, and an understatement.
 
2011-04-17 10:38:52 PM  

RanDomino: GPA IS NOT farkING SCARCE YOU STUPID BASTARDS


You haven't read the comments on most internet message boards lately, have you?

GPA is a farking endangered species.
 
2011-04-17 10:40:53 PM  

tony41454: Didn't read the article, did you? Didn't think so.


Of course not. Your premise and source were both made of stupid -- long-outdated stupid at that.
 
2011-04-17 10:42:40 PM  

tony41454: No they shouldn't. And I'll tell you why, you farking moron: copypasta


FTFY

upload.wikimedia.org

Anyways, measuring only income is a poor way to examine wealth inequality. This map is based on the GINI coefficient. It works on a sliding scale, 0 is perfect wealth equality and 1 is all wealth owned by a single person.

Yes, wealth inequality in America is at banana-republic levels.
 
2011-04-17 10:42:41 PM  
You mean everyone in the class gets the same books?


That communism!! Under the GOP idea only the rich kids get book...

Oh wait sorry reality is actually is worse than my analogy.

Conservative Fair competition:

Poor kid: Not have the chance to even go to college.

Rich Kid: Automatically gets in because your dad went and you have money

Yeah that's fair "competition" - Kid of someone rich - Get things handed to you.

Kid of someone one poor - Fark you!!


It's not taking you wealth to give to someone else. It's making sure people have the possibility IF THEY WORK HARD to make something of their life.
 
2011-04-17 10:47:59 PM  
Rick kid - Does poor in school, gets into college because his dad did and has lots of money.

Rich Kid - Still fails in college. Gets high paying job handed to him by his relatives.

Rich Kid - Fails at job... It's ok inherits trust fund to maintain being rich...

Poor kid - Work s hard gets straight A's, maybe government can loan him some money to afford to go to college....


Rich Kid - fark NO *I* *WORKED* (inheriting) HARD FOR MY MONEY WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SHARE IT!!!!!!


This is what we are really talking about.
 
2011-04-17 10:48:16 PM  
nowt Quote 2011-04-17 10:38:13 PM
I'll play--

Oh, please, spare me your liberal, socialist tripe about "lessers" and the "wealthy." Sheesh. Who raised your butt, farking Karl Marx? Get a grip and join the human race! This is not the proletariat rising up against the aristocracy, this is America which is bereft of jobs, people are out of work, and any job is a good job. Good grief, some people it seems would rather sit on their butt all day singing work songs instead of being out working!
 
2011-04-17 10:49:24 PM  

raanne: um, yeah - its called grading on a curve. that's how you passed that test with a 58% - and because the average was a 45% you did pretty well. but that person who worked their butt off at got a 95% didn't do any better...


Or grade inflation.

The main thing is to be honest about what you're doing. If the goal is redistribution, dont pretend theres some other motive. Dont pretend youre helping everyone pass when youre raising Cs to Bs so theyll give you a great teacher evaluation.
 
2011-04-17 10:50:30 PM  
Lenny_da_Hog Quote 2011-04-17 10:40:53 PM
tony41454: Didn't read the article, did you? Didn't think so.

Of course not. Your premise and source were both made of stupid -- long-outdated stupid at that.


And thus, so was your response.
 
2011-04-17 10:50:50 PM  
As a member of the "Let them Eat Cake Party", I wholeheartedly endorse the analogy. After all, if the poor performing students wanted to do better, they should've entered the first grade with a ninety dollar calculator, a full set of art supplies, and a professional edition of the dictionary.

Anything else is unfair.
 
2011-04-17 10:52:36 PM  
Kid, we're living in the James O'Keefe era. Your old-fashioned College DERPublican antics just aren't going to cut it anymore.

The ridiculous facial hair is a good start, but maybe consider dressing up like Evel Knievel and brandishing a big black dildo in your next viral video, hm...?
 
2011-04-17 10:53:18 PM  

tony41454: Lenny_da_Hog Quote 2011-04-17 10:40:53 PM
tony41454: Didn't read the article, did you? Didn't think so.

Of course not. Your premise and source were both made of stupid -- long-outdated stupid at that.

And thus, so was your response.


And here you commit the fallacy of Derping the Question
 
2011-04-17 10:54:02 PM  

Bocanegra: 2wolves: Bocanegra: How's that whole "tax the rich" thing working out for Europe?

lulz

Check out Germany you super genius.

Yeah, but I should completely ignore Spain, Portugal, and Greece, amirite?


You don't come here for the hunting do you?
 
2011-04-17 10:55:20 PM  

tony41454: nowt Quote 2011-04-17 10:38:13 PM
I'll play--

Oh, please, spare me your liberal, socialist tripe about "lessers" and the "wealthy." Sheesh. Who raised your butt, farking Karl Marx? Get a grip and join the human race! This is not the proletariat rising up against the aristocracy, this is America which is bereft of jobs, people are out of work, and any job is a good job. Good grief, some people it seems would rather sit on their butt all day singing work songs instead of being out working!


And singing slave songs! Spare the human race, let alone America, your particular psychopathy. The means to increase and maintain the standard of living across the board are there. Why hasn't it occurred?

Delusions of attaining grandeur.
 
2011-04-17 10:55:50 PM  
No kids who were raise poor ever made it into the top 1% income bracket ever.

Wait, I know several of them. And they all pay a ton of taxes.
 
x23
2011-04-17 10:55:55 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mugato: Rich != smart.

Rich does not equal smart, regardless of how excited you are about the rich.



want to take a wild guess what the ! in front of the = means?
you are going to be totally shocked when you find out!

Link (new window)

/not obscure
 
2011-04-17 10:56:31 PM  

PonceAlyosha: kleppe: That and the fact that statistically speaking, affirmative action students and hirees tend to perform better. Affirmative action is looking at potential rather than proven value and experience and assuming that the proven value and experience of minorities who have been historically oppressed will understate their potential.

It falls flat on its face when it becomes apparent that potential is not worth more than proven value.

Which is why companies only hire older, experienced employees?


Like I said, proven value is worth (and costs) more.
 
2011-04-17 10:56:43 PM  
Call me when I can inherit my dad's GPA.
 
2011-04-17 10:58:42 PM  

Animatronik: The main thing is to be honest about what you're doing. If the goal is redistribution, dont pretend theres some other motive. Dont pretend youre helping everyone pass when youre raising Cs to Bs so theyll give you a great teacher evaluation.


Most medical schools in this country grade on a curve (or even pass-fail now).

There are some subjects that can't be taught and evaluated in a reasonable amount of time. You either test on the material as is and curve, or you simplify the material so people pass the exam. Simply put, a subject that becomes an entire field of study that people dedicate their lives to - neurology for example - could be tested in a manner that the majority of the class would fail, every time. You either curve the exam, or take a more general approach.

Most professors curve to the lowest possible B or a C average. It's not about polishing turds.
 
2011-04-17 11:01:33 PM  

tony41454: So, the simple minded respond. NOWT can't come up with anything original so he/she shows their ignorance. Tell me, O master of the Low IQ, what group in this country is responsible for creating the most jobs? Creating business? What does this country need more of right now? Jobs? Will the poor create jobs? Will those on food stamps and welfare create jobs? No, Mr. Simple, it's the "rich," those with combined incomes of over $250,000 who own franchises, warehouses, print shops, etc., and the "super rich" who own factories. Fine, you can advocate your socialist wealth spreading, but you'll sit on your arse and collect welfare, because there will be no jobs. (Man, some people are just DENSE.)


Sorry, but to say that people who make over 250K create jobs is the biggest pile of crap I have ever heard.

People who are self-employed and run BUSINESSES create jobs.

I find it very telling that this distinction isn't made. Care to explain why that is?
 
2011-04-17 11:01:53 PM  

Animatronik: The main thing is to be honest about what you're doing. If the goal is redistribution, dont pretend theres some other motive. Dont pretend youre helping everyone pass when youre raising Cs to Bs so theyll give you a great teacher evaluation.


I truly hate the way you troll and then try to make it obvious by using quotation marks appropriately once then never again.
 
2011-04-17 11:02:15 PM  

drewkumo: Animatronik: The main thing is to be honest about what you're doing. If the goal is redistribution, dont pretend theres some other motive. Dont pretend youre helping everyone pass when youre raising Cs to Bs so theyll give you a great teacher evaluation.

Most medical schools in this country grade on a curve (or even pass-fail now).

There are some subjects that can't be taught and evaluated in a reasonable amount of time. You either test on the material as is and curve, or you simplify the material so people pass the exam. Simply put, a subject that becomes an entire field of study that people dedicate their lives to - neurology for example - could be tested in a manner that the majority of the class would fail, every time. You either curve the exam, or take a more general approach.

Most professors curve to the lowest possible B or a C average. It's not about polishing turds.


I think you must have learned to polish turds at the same school where they taught you that the US. is horrible because of wealth inequality.
 
2011-04-17 11:02:31 PM  

tony41454: Robots are Strong Quote 2011-04-17 10:25:24 PM
But they should take a little more from the people that can afford to give a little more, and take a little less from the people that can't. The rich people will still be rich, the poor people will still be poor, we'll have a stable society where even poor people have a chance at success, and you'll still be farking moron.

No they shouldn't. And I'll tell you why, you farking moron:

Only The Rich Pay Taxes
Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes


Newsflash. The people that have the money pay the taxes. Paying the taxes allows those people the opportunity to live and prosper in a society that gives them a chance at success, you freaking chucklehead.

And not to be the guy that attacks the source, but a Rush Limbaugh article? Seriously?
 
2011-04-17 11:02:57 PM  

The Fourth Karamazov: Why does conservative humor generally suck?


Humor has to have some basis in reality in order for it to be funny.
 
2011-04-17 11:04:24 PM  
With all being said and done, you don't (over)tax those who create the jobs. You create a business friendly environment for economic growth to happen. THAT'S how job growth occurs. If the "rich" have more money, they invest in more factories to create more money, which in turn creates more jobs and wages. This is how it's done. Redistributing (or taking away) what someone has worked hard for discourages growth and innovation, factories close down, people lose jobs. I guess this is what Obama wants, since that's what he's doing.
 
2011-04-17 11:06:30 PM  

tony41454: With all being said and done, you don't (over)tax those who create the jobs.


Tell me when they get around to doing that.
 
2011-04-17 11:07:45 PM  
Robots are Strong Quote 2011-04-17 11:02:31 PM
tony41454: Robots are Strong Quote 2011-04-17 10:25:24 PM
But they should take a little more from the people that can afford to give a little more, and take a little less from the people that can't. The rich people will still be rich, the poor people will still be poor, we'll have a stable society where even poor people have a chance at success, and you'll still be farking moron.

No they shouldn't. And I'll tell you why, you farking moron:

Only The Rich Pay Taxes
Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes


Newsflash. The people that have the money pay the taxes. Paying the taxes allows those people the opportunity to live and prosper in a society that gives them a chance at success, you freaking chucklehead.

And not to be the guy that attacks the source, but a Rush Limbaugh article? Seriously?


And where do you get your facts? The Daily Kos? The Soros Newsletter? The Alinsky Primer? Seriously???? Rush got the "facts" straight from the IRS, chucklehead. What don't you try the same.
 
2011-04-17 11:07:50 PM  

hitchking: It'd be nice if conservatives could break their addiction to bullshiat thought experiments that confirm their ideology but make them sound like stoned philosophy majors.

Some people have to live in the real world, and they don't think that "Progressive kids don't want to have their GPA reduced" = "NO MEDICARE FOR ANYONE".


Oh, you are being too kind. It makes them sound like 6th graders at best.
 
2011-04-17 11:09:31 PM  
erveek Quote 2011-04-17 11:06:30 PM
tony41454: With all being said and done, you don't (over)tax those who create the jobs.

Tell me when they get around to doing that.



Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes--
read the article I linked to.
 
2011-04-17 11:11:38 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: Animatronik: The main thing is to be honest about what you're doing. If the goal is redistribution, dont pretend theres some other motive. Dont pretend youre helping everyone pass when youre raising Cs to Bs so theyll give you a great teacher evaluation.

I truly hate the way you troll and then try to make it obvious by using quotation marks appropriately once then never again.


If I were trolling, I wouldnt be posting well-reasoned arguments that a dipshiat calls trolling because he doesnt have a well-reasoned response.

Ive TA'd classes where the prof applied a huge curve because he wanted 70+% of the students to make Bs and As. And other classes where nobody would have passed without a curve. There is a difference. And some validity to this analogy.

People who go on and on about wealth inequality need to focus on people at the bottom, instead of making promises to the middle class that cant be kept without going deeper and deeper into debt.
 
2011-04-17 11:11:50 PM  
I would have answered that this would be fine, and add if he would be ok with seeing who was able to hold onto their wallet while we were at it. Obviously, if the little shiat isn't stong enough from me taking it, then by all rights I should have it. It's just business, darwin at work and all.

SouthernManDunWrong: GAT_00: sponkster: GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?

WOW so misinformed.

Wow, that was so informative that I'm just convinced that you've conclusively proved me wrong.

Are you a college professor? In the real world there are hiring preferences, set asides, quotas and more. Don't hire enough woman and minority owned contractors? That's a lawsuit. Why? Because liberals want to give disadvantaged business owners a hand up regardless of costs to taxpayers.


Yes southernmanDUNwrong, tell us more about how they're givin' the blacks an the mexicans all yer jorbs.
 
2011-04-17 11:11:55 PM  

SouthernManDunWrong: GAT_00: sponkster: GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?

WOW so misinformed.

Wow, that was so informative that I'm just convinced that you've conclusively proved me wrong.

Are you a college professor? In the real world there are hiring preferences, set asides, quotas and more. Don't hire enough woman and minority owned contractors? That's a lawsuit. Why? Because liberals want to give disadvantaged business owners a hand up regardless of costs to taxpayers.


Wow, you are so full of shiat. The only time I have seen this is in government based contracts, and the FACTS are that it is the exception and rarely the rule.

Why do you have to lie all the time. Can't your arguments stand up to reality?
 
2011-04-17 11:14:57 PM  

Animatronik: I think you must have learned to polish turds at the same school where they taught you that the US. is horrible because of wealth inequality.


Coming from a man whose probably never taken a class challenging enough to warrant a curve. It's ok if you don't understand how a curve works, there's a reason they made "business math".

I mean the last thread I saw you in you were legitimately trying to make the argument that spending between countries was better compared in raw numbers than in %GDP.

You're more outspoken than you are educated, which is a common theme among partisans.
 
2011-04-17 11:15:01 PM  
Did the student inherit his GPA without actually working for those grades?
 
2011-04-17 11:15:19 PM  
Next, the whackadoodles will start discussing giving people fish vs. teaching them to fish, when they have done neither, nor have they ever tried to teach a starving man to do anything (it isn't very easy).

Nope, it will be circular 6th grade based sophistry, platitudes, and derp.

Meanwhile, the adults have to actually do things to get this country upright again.
 
2011-04-17 11:16:39 PM  
LAST POST: Redistribution was as ugly when Obama said it to Joe the Plumber as it is today. Don't do it. In the immortal words of James T. Kirk: "It doesn't work."
 
2011-04-17 11:17:18 PM  

SouthernManDunWrong: Because liberals want to give disadvantaged business owners a hand up regardless of costs to taxpayers.


Maybe these "disadvantaged business owners" wouldn't be and have been so "disadvantaged" if not for the actions of people who purposely choose and have chosen not to hire them. If the playing field were truly level, there would not need to be "set-asides" or a "hand up", because those who were and are "disadvantaged" would be and would have been in the mix right along with everyone else.

So before you start whining about "lawsuits" and "taxpayers", just remember that those same "taxpayers" and their fathers and fathers before them benefited from a system in which certain groups of people were kept "disadvantaged", by law and by practice. No violins here, not even little ones.

Racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia... not just words in a dictionary, but part of present day reality in the here and now.
History. Learn some.
 
2011-04-17 11:17:33 PM  
Good farking Lord, EVERY one of you right wing farktards are absolutely useless.
 
2011-04-17 11:18:15 PM  

deSelby: From the blog author in his blog's comment section:

I'm not rich by any means, but maybe I'd like work up to being there someday. So I'm not going to be a whiny little b*tch who wants to tear down rich people and make life difficult for them because those difficulties will still be there should I ever join the club.


Wow. You rarely hear one of these idiots actually admit it so nakedly.

/keep dreaming, you crazy bagger
 
2011-04-17 11:18:47 PM  

tony41454: LAST POST: Redistribution was as ugly when Obama said it to Joe the Plumber as it is today. Don't do it. In the immortal words of James T. Kirk: "It doesn't work."


So why do you support it when Republicans do it?
 
2011-04-17 11:19:19 PM  

tony41454: The bottom 50% is paying a tiny bit of the taxes, so you can't give them much of a tax cut by definition. Yet these are the people to whom the Democrats claim to want to give tax cuts. Remember this the next time you hear the "tax cuts for the rich" business. Understand that the so-called rich are about the only ones paying taxes anymore.


Because they can afford it. A completely fair system would give each person the same amount at birth and let them each use it as they thought was fit.

Government is (and always has been) designed to benefit the rich:

Without government there is no ownership. Government enforces your contracts, deeds and real estate. Without this enforcement you own nothing more than you can carry.

What prevents me from moving into your home and calling it my own?

Government

What prevents me from driving off in your car?

Government

What forces me to pay for items at a store?

Government

What makes me pay my mortgage and debts to the rich?

Government


Do you get it? The whole purpose of the social contract is to ALLOW ownership and prevent chaos. Without government there would be no way to make a profit. It supports our society and allows the greedy to accumulate wealth. Even welfare payments to the poor benefit the rich by paying the poor a small amount to NOT steal out of desperation. Since Government benefits the rich to an enormous degree, let them pay for it.
 
2011-04-17 11:20:13 PM  

EbolaNYC: I would have answered that this would be fine, and add if he would be ok with seeing who was able to hold onto their wallet while we were at it. Obviously, if the little shiat isn't stong enough from me taking it, then by all rights I should have it. It's just business, darwin at work and all.SouthernManDunWrong: GAT_00: sponkster: GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?

WOW so misinformed.

Wow, that was so informative that I'm just convinced that you've conclusively proved me wrong.

Are you a college professor? In the real world there are hiring preferences, set asides, quotas and more. Don't hire enough woman and minority owned contractors? That's a lawsuit. Why? Because liberals want to give disadvantaged business owners a hand up regardless of costs to taxpayers.

Yes southernmanDUNwrong, tell us more about how they're givin' the blacks an the mexicans all yer jorbs.


I know, I live in fly over country, and all I hear from some of my neighbors is how the n*ggers and the w*tbacks are ruinning America.

I finally told one of them that we could jump in my car right now, drive into town, and I would give him $500 dollars for every black person and mexican person we saw on the street in one hour, but if we didn't but for every 15 minutes that we didn't see one, he owed me $500.

Strangely enough, there was a lot of muttering and the conversation came to an end.

We are 93% white in my state, and I am sick of hearing about minorities from stupid redneck morons who obviously have no capability to make themselves happy in life.

/waiting to be called a bigot for not tolerating some asshole's bigotry.
 
2011-04-17 11:21:22 PM  

Without Fail: What prevents me from moving into your home and calling it my own?

Government

What prevents me from driving off in your car?

Government

What forces me to pay for items at a store?

Government

What makes me pay my mortgage and debts to the rich?

Government


Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!
 
2011-04-17 11:21:43 PM  
tony41454:
i52.tinypic.com
If the "rich" have more money, they invest in more factories to create more money, which in turn
creates more jobs and wages.
i53.tinypic.com

YET ANOTHER supply-side conservatard who doesn't understand how wealth is created.

They don't invest in more factories unless people are buying.

They're not taxed on the money they use to pay for factories either. It's not a choice between paying taxes and hiring people, at least not when it comes to income tax. Payroll taxes are a different matter.
 
2011-04-17 11:23:03 PM  

How Does That Taste: tony41454: LAST POST: Redistribution was as ugly when Obama said it to Joe the Plumber as it is today. Don't do it. In the immortal words of James T. Kirk: "It doesn't work."

So why do you support it when Republicans do it?


Exactly, the transfer of wealth to the rich is easily identifiable in any number of analyses of our current economy. It's not difficult to see.

Corporations have record high profits, record low taxes, and can flow back and forth across borders with impunity.

Whackadoodles are dumb.
 
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