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(Some Guy)   Progressive student: "We should tax the rich to give the poor more opportunity." Conservative: "So you'd be cool with me taking some points off your GPA to give the dumb some opportunity, right?" Progressive student:   (thelookingspoon.com) divider line 631
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2011-04-17 04:38:35 PM  
Hey, I've never heard that old bullsh*t before!

Let's hear about the guys who go to dinner and split the bill, or the one about how your car insurance doesn't pay for oil changes? Those are fresh and accurate, too!
 
2011-04-17 04:39:36 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Hey, I've never heard that old bullsh*t before!

Let's hear about the guys who go to dinner and split the bill, or the one about how your car insurance doesn't pay for oil changes? Those are fresh and accurate, too!


Affirmative Action bake sale!!!1!one
 
2011-04-17 04:43:18 PM  
And some farktards probably think this is an excellent analogy.
 
2011-04-17 04:46:04 PM  
faqsmedia.ign.com
 
2011-04-17 04:57:07 PM  
Maybe if there was something in the defining document of the course that said the professor had the ability to do so. That would be the only way the analogy works.
 
2011-04-17 05:07:30 PM  
It'd be nice if conservatives could break their addiction to bullshiat thought experiments that confirm their ideology but make them sound like stoned philosophy majors.

Some people have to live in the real world, and they don't think that "Progressive kids don't want to have their GPA reduced" = "NO MEDICARE FOR ANYONE".
 
2011-04-17 05:12:45 PM  
Your blog sucks.
 
2011-04-17 05:13:52 PM  
Two totally different things.

Rich people are bad.

Smart people are Asian.
 
2011-04-17 05:37:50 PM  
Well, then, by that analogy, the school is just giving this kid 4.0s while he's not even doing his homework, or any real work, for that matter.

Which means his daddy is rich enough to buy off the school system.
 
2011-04-17 05:42:30 PM  
false equivalence is false.
 
2011-04-17 05:43:12 PM  
When you can, and indeed must, use grade points to put food on your table and a roof over your head, then we'll talk.
 
2011-04-17 05:49:51 PM  

DarthBrooks: Two totally different things.

Rich people are bad.

Smart people are Asian.


But don't we dare call you racist.
 
2011-04-17 05:50:34 PM  
That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?
 
2011-04-17 06:00:25 PM  

GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?


WOW so misinformed.
 
2011-04-17 06:04:22 PM  

sponkster: GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?

WOW so misinformed.


Wow, that was so informative that I'm just convinced that you've conclusively proved me wrong.
 
2011-04-17 06:16:49 PM  
Rich != smart.
 
2011-04-17 06:20:47 PM  

GAT_00: sponkster: GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits. When they're given the chance to go to school and have it paid for, it's now their own terms on passing and failing. Why is it that conservatives are so unable to grasp actual systems and instead fall back onto bad analogies that completely fail to address anything? Are you all that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?

WOW so misinformed.

Wow, that was so informative that I'm just convinced that you've conclusively proved me wrong.


Are you a college professor? In the real world there are hiring preferences, set asides, quotas and more. Don't hire enough woman and minority owned contractors? That's a lawsuit. Why? Because liberals want to give disadvantaged business owners a hand up regardless of costs to taxpayers.
 
2011-04-17 06:41:37 PM  
A more appropriate analogy would be that I take advantage of academic services, tutoring, professor office hours, study sessions, honors courses, etc. in order to get my GPA up and then I demand that those services be discontinued for people coming after on the grounds that I did it all myself.
 
2011-04-17 06:47:44 PM  
When liberals are the "haves" instead of the "have-nots", then all of a sudden their Marxist, utopian "redistribution" ideals don't work for them.

It's all part of the pathology and hypocrisy which defines the left.

*

"I want to see some FReeper school teacher try this with their students and see what the reaction is! Watch the children freak, the parents freak, and the local teacher's union freak. Then explain it was a joke to teach that redistribution of property isn't a good idea.

Any FReeper teachers willing to give it the old college try? LOL!"

Done it already. :)

I brought candy.

Everytime a student got a question right, I put it aside.

I separated each one so that the students thought they'd get the candy after class.

Then when class was over I shoved them all together and divided them evenly.

Lesson learned.


*

I can just hear what each of those students are thinking.

It doesn't apply to me because I worked hard to get my GPA.

The rich don't work hard to earn their money therefore it is not the same.

Wait until their time comes to earn a "real" living.

*

I was training a manager at our company on his way up, and as his advocate managed to get him a (really) good raise (technically, he earned it, working double hours - a very hard worker.) He called me after the next payday, and said "I thought you said the raise was xx,xxx?"

I said, welcome to your government. Look at the gross and the net on the pay stub, then ask yourself if your ideas about government are sound. It's taken me years, but I have chipped away at a lot of that attitude.

*

Leftist teachers do actually try things like this, but it is usually much more subtle.

Nearly 30 years ago when I was in high school my social studies teacher decided to divide the class up into groups of five or six and give each group a collective grade.

I was one of those students with a 4.0 gpa and of course he stuck me in a group of screw ups and slackers. Well, I decided to go Galt on them and whatever the others did, I did too. I sat around and talked, looked at girls, bailed on class just like the others. I knew I had already earned enough for me to get an A out of the class.

At the end of the project, my liberal teacher told me how disappointed he was that I didn't pull the others across the finish line with me.

I told him how disappointed I was in him for expecting me to pull the wagon while everybody else got a free ride.

I don't know if he learned his lesson or not.
 
2011-04-17 06:51:06 PM  

Freep Impact: Well, I decided to go Galt on them


You never go full Galt.
 
2011-04-17 06:59:03 PM  
In other news, apples differ in many ways from oranges
 
2011-04-17 07:04:12 PM  
That headline might make sense if the Progressive student had a 5,000 GPA, but only needed the normal 4.0.
 
2011-04-17 07:08:31 PM  
Yet another chorus of "The rich must be good and virtuous; the poor much be lazy and stupid."

Isn't it nice when the people you think deserve punishment are the same ones who have absolutely no power to retaliate, and the people you fear are the same ones who need no correction?
 
2011-04-17 07:08:31 PM  

St_Francis_P: That headline might make sense if the Progressive student had a 5,000 GPA, but only needed the normal 4.0.


And if in the process he ensured that other students' GPA's never rose above 2.0
 
2011-04-17 07:13:44 PM  

Freep Impact: Everytime a student got a question right, I put it aside.

I separated each one so that the students thought they'd get the candy after class.

Then when class was over I shoved them all together and divided them evenly.

Lesson learned.


Sure, but he's just distributing fiat candy. When the markets tank I'll be fine, I've been squirreling away raw cocoa under my mattress.
 
2011-04-17 07:14:03 PM  

GAT_00: That's a stupid analogy. The whole idea behind affirmative action is that it lets someone who doesn't have absolute proof of excellence, such as someone without a great GPA, into college so they can excel on their own merits.


I would say the Supreme Court more or less rejected that reasoning. The only Constitutionally-acceptable justification for affirmative action is that a school has the right to determine the demographic makeup of its student body.

But yes, it's an extremely stupid analogy.
 
2011-04-17 07:41:28 PM  
...that's not how GPAs work.

/maybe if you said you were going to make your A a C and give the underperforming student a C instead of an F...
 
2011-04-17 08:04:12 PM  
How about just asking the progressive students to tutor their fellows who aren't doing as well?

. . . oh, wait, that wouldn't be a bad analogy for taxes then . . .

Giving the low performers points directly is useless: if, instead, the GPA points 'paid' for tutoring for their fellow students, I wonder if they'd still object to it?
 
2011-04-17 08:06:00 PM  
1: That is a horrible analogy.

2: Cut your farking sideburns, you hipster-looking fark.
 
2011-04-17 08:06:06 PM  
That's called grading by the curve, and it's quite common as well.
 
2011-04-17 08:06:16 PM  
No time to respond properly, but note that 'grading on a curve' does exist.
 
2011-04-17 08:06:52 PM  

moralpanic: That's called grading by the curve, and it's quite common as well.


Yeah, what he said.
 
2011-04-17 08:09:42 PM  
How's that whole "tax the rich" thing working out for Europe?

lulz
 
2011-04-17 08:09:57 PM  
Ah, the conservative mind. where you can monetize anything.
 
2011-04-17 08:10:46 PM  
Freep Impact: Thank you Freep, you are performing a valuable public service. The lesson I took away from all that was "I'm going to act like a total dick to you because I don't like the government. If you feel I'm mistreating you, don't blame me, blame the government."

Is that about right?
 
2011-04-17 08:10:52 PM  
doublesecretprobation 2011-04-17 05:42:30 PM false equivalence is false.
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Yeah, but that doesn't stop them from thinking it isn't.
 
2011-04-17 08:11:03 PM  
But I was born with the A+ average my parents left to me.

It would be unfair to make me actually have to study.
 
2011-04-17 08:11:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Maybe if there was something in the defining document of the course that said the professor had the ability to do so. That would be the only way the analogy works.


I hate to break it to the "professor" but when they normalize to fit grades to a curve (in the interests of preventing grade inflation) that's basically what they do. Just such an event cost me a 4.0 in a class once. Since someone of that advanced education is unaware of how to do their job, obviously they should be replaced, sent to carousel.
 
2011-04-17 08:14:16 PM  

GAT_00: Are you [conservatives] that invested in your own bullshiat that you've lost all ability to reason?


Yes.

This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.
 
2011-04-17 08:14:32 PM  
GPA is a zero-sum game. Every A causes someone else to go wanting!

Oh, wait...You mean the total points available in a class aren't split between all of the students, and makes this entire comparison invalid?
 
2011-04-17 08:14:51 PM  
The dead silence is from just how retarded this concept is.

Oh, and your blog sucks.
 
2011-04-17 08:15:22 PM  
www.luminomagazine.com

Is horrible, this analogy.
 
2011-04-17 08:15:58 PM  
Hell, even if this did happen, it would happen to all top students. So everyone who was at 4.0 is now at 3.5, making 3.5 the new A. There's actually no disadvantage...
 
2011-04-17 08:15:58 PM  
Wow, that's not a horrible analogy at all!
 
2011-04-17 08:17:27 PM  
Oh, yeah, because distribution of wealth in this country is based on an institutionally orchestrated facsimile of meritocracy and not, you know, luck or privilege...
 
2011-04-17 08:18:54 PM  

Tickle Mittens: Since someone of that advanced education is unaware of how to do their job, obviously they should be replaced, sent to carousel.


Looks like a blast!

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2011-04-17 08:18:58 PM  
um, yeah - its called grading on a curve. that's how you passed that test with a 58% - and because the average was a 45% you did pretty well. but that person who worked their butt off at got a 95% didn't do any better...
 
2011-04-17 08:19:18 PM  
Yeah because the bottom student's work directly contributes to the grade of the kid asking the question.
 
2011-04-17 08:19:59 PM  
Progressive Student: If my GPA is over 9000.0...
 
2011-04-17 08:20:21 PM  

Bocanegra: How's that whole "tax the rich" thing working out for Europe?


A bunch of the wealthiest Germans recently protested to have their taxes raised. This in Germany where unemployment is lower than in the US and social programs are vastly superior. As are the labor laws.
 
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