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2011-04-16 06:04:53 PM
yeah what we really need is more pro-Israel propaganda in our western news. every night we're bombarded with pro-Palestinian, pro Muslim programming from the major networks. the reporters are constantly being fired because they say something bad about Muslims.
 
2011-04-16 06:21:54 PM
I'm not prone to the whole international Zionist conspiracy BS line of thinking, but I get the strange feeling that the major satellite and cable monopolies will carry this, but not AJE.
 
2011-04-16 07:26:03 PM
I'm still waiting for FiOS to add Aljezzra.
 
2011-04-16 08:57:06 PM
The_Soiler: I'm still waiting for FiOS to add Aljezzra.

Really? Channel 457 for me.
 
2011-04-16 09:01:30 PM
Maybe better yet they just show regular Israeli TV with translation.

If it's not shown in country, people start suspecting propaganda. It's what makes Voice of America and similar new channels get distrusted, while people will watch BBC and CNN because they know that actual US/UK people are seeing those same shows.

Though... are there streaming Israeli news channels on the net? Surely there's some in raw Hebrew at least? There's expat Israelis in the US so there must be demand.
 
2011-04-16 09:02:15 PM
Al-Jazeera DOES stream on the internet, very well too. Livestream and a bunch of other places.
 
2011-04-16 09:44:41 PM
I love to get Al-Jazeera on my TV. I'd watch it. I can get it online but that's not the same.
 
2011-04-16 10:03:23 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: I'm not prone to the whole international Zionist conspiracy BS line of thinking, but I get the strange feeling that the major satellite and cable monopolies will carry this, but not AJE.

I don't think it's any kind of conspiracy, but more that we've invested this whole thing in Israel, which was perfectly fine when Israel wasn't openly oppressing their Palestinian population, but now we're just ignoring if not actively whitewashing it when any other regime that does what Israel does would face international condemnation if not outright expulsion from the international community.
 
2011-04-16 10:25:19 PM
GAT_00: I don't think it's any kind of conspiracy, but more that we've invested this whole thing in Israel, which was perfectly fine when Israel wasn't openly oppressing their Palestinian population, but now we're just ignoring if not actively whitewashing it when any other regime that does what Israel does would face international condemnation if not outright expulsion from the international community.

There's also the creepy preoccupation of certain evangelical groups, who want to see Israel prosper as a sign that the Rapture will roll around next Thursday.
 
2011-04-16 10:28:10 PM
www.allgoodseats.com
 
2011-04-16 10:29:42 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: GAT_00: I don't think it's any kind of conspiracy, but more that we've invested this whole thing in Israel, which was perfectly fine when Israel wasn't openly oppressing their Palestinian population, but now we're just ignoring if not actively whitewashing it when any other regime that does what Israel does would face international condemnation if not outright expulsion from the international community.

There's also the creepy preoccupation of certain evangelical groups, who want to see Israel prosper as a sign that the Rapture will roll around next Thursday.


Personally, I'm farking tired of the buildup. Just get Tel Aviv to nuke Tehran so the Fundies realize Jesus isn't going to come Save their worthless asses.
 
2011-04-16 10:33:49 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2011-04-16 10:37:31 PM
CaptainWes: i.imgur.com

Again, can we please stop comparing Tats to the Hebrew Hammer? Tats is an Israeli apologist who uses Soviet-era propaganda tactics.
 
2011-04-16 10:46:08 PM
One of the reasons I like al-Jazeera is that they have access to and will showcase various Israeli politicians and sources from a variety of ideological perspectives--internet Israeli political discourse is quite diverse. Its part of why pretty much every Middle Eastern country has banned them at some point.
 
2011-04-16 11:47:27 PM
Will the crawl go right to left?
 
2011-04-17 12:49:47 AM
CaptainWes: i.imgur.com

What am I supposed to say, really?
 
2011-04-17 12:54:33 AM
Tatsuma: CaptainWes: i.imgur.com

What am I supposed to say, really?


"Death to Israel"

Come on... you know you want to
 
2011-04-17 12:56:22 AM
Yeah it's called Hollywood.
 
paj
2011-04-17 12:57:59 AM
SunTV?
 
2011-04-17 12:58:56 AM
www.familyoldphotos.com
Young Helen Thomas is expressionless
 
2011-04-17 12:59:13 AM
Fine with me, as long as this guy does the weather:

www.pupntaco.com (new window)
 
2011-04-17 01:06:50 AM
"It won't be a propaganda channel, but will simply tell the truth."

Sounds an awful lot like 'Fair and Balanced'.
 
2011-04-17 01:09:15 AM
"Dr. Alexander Mashkevich announces plan to form pro-Israel international news network. 'It won't be a propaganda channel, but will simply tell the truth,' he tells Ynet during Jewish leaders conference."


That would be a first.
 
2011-04-17 01:11:13 AM
FTFA: "Every day that passes we lose the battle for Israel's image.

If Israel weren't shooting children, bulldozing date trees, and confiscating other peoples land, perhaps you wouldn't be losing the battle for your "image," jerk.
 
2011-04-17 01:14:05 AM
Dr. Alexander Mashkevich, president of the United Israel Appeal's annual conference of Jewish leaders in Washington, has announced his plan to form a pro-Israel international news network, similar to al-Jazeera and the BBC.
I know it almost never happens, but isn't the point of the news to deliver unbiased coverage? I don't want pro or anti-Israel news, I just want to know whats going on from someone who isn't invested in pushing an agenda.
 
2011-04-17 01:15:00 AM
Wow, It'll be like Tatsumavision!!!
 
2011-04-17 01:16:37 AM
 
2011-04-17 01:19:06 AM
Because American news networks aren't quite pro-Israel enough...

/I mean, we've always had a pro-Israel bent, but now we have an anti-brown-scary-mooslim bent too.
 
2011-04-17 01:19:36 AM
The only way I can see having a pro-whatevercountry news network that doesn't put a spin on things is if they completely neglect to report on stories that make a place look bad. Because really, how is any country not going to screw things up now and again?
 
2011-04-17 01:21:21 AM
great. sofa king great.
 
2011-04-17 01:23:26 AM
XveryYpettyZ: Because American news networks aren't quite pro-Israel enough...

/I mean, we've always had a pro-Israel bent, but now we have an anti-brown-scary-mooslim bent too.


Our networks have no bents, they all cater to sensationalism which leads to viewers which leads to advertising dollars. There's no money to be made reporting real news.
 
2011-04-17 01:24:46 AM
Qatar approves!
 
2011-04-17 01:26:15 AM
Nobody will watch it. Why? Every 5 minutes they would reference some type of hardship they endured during the past 2k years. Who wants to hear about an exaggerated event that happened during WWII every 5 minutes?

We get it. We were forced to read your Israeli propaganda during school. Please don't subject any one else to your Israeli agenda.

Signed, the world.
 
2011-04-17 01:26:58 AM
Thank god someone is finally doing this. Without this, in order to get pro-Israeli news, I'd have watch, listen to, or read CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, ABC, Haaretz, the BBC, the Jerusalem Post, NPR, or the New York Times.
 
2011-04-17 01:32:02 AM
itazurakko:
Though... are there streaming Israeli news channels on the net? Surely there's some in raw Hebrew at least? There's expat Israelis in the US so there must be demand.


The Israeli Network (homepage here) already shows selections from Israeli TV with English subtitles (it's available on the Dish network in the States, it says here, and on Rogers Cable in Canada). So yes, Israeli TV is available worldwide for those who want it.

I doubt an Israeli version of BBC World or Russia Today would make financial sense, though. Israel's a much smaller country than Russia or even the UK, and the Israeli expat community's simply too small.
 
2011-04-17 01:32:13 AM
If this is well done propaganda or not propaganda, it could be interesting. If it is poorly done propaganda it could be excruciating or funny.
 
2011-04-17 01:43:32 AM
Tatsuma: CaptainWes: i.imgur.com

What am I supposed to say, really?


Yay?
 
2011-04-17 01:44:57 AM
They're missing the point: I don't watch al Jazera because I like Muslims and side with their cause. I watch it because I'm looking for the raw, unfiltered reporting missing from all American news services.

I'm a smart man, and can do my own critical thinking. I don't need pre-digested op-ed pieces in place of fact.
 
2011-04-17 01:46:04 AM
Suspending judgement on Israel's actions for the moment, how does one create a "pro-" anything news channel and then in the same breath say its "...simply a channel telling the truth." At the point you declare you have any kind of a stance, your validity is null and void, you've cemented your allegiance and all information that's coming out is immediately tainted and suspect. Hell at least our left and right wing propaganda channels have the sense to say they're "Fair and Balanced" or demand we "Lean Forward" while promoting their unabashedly left leaning pundits.

Though I do like the whole "woe is us" it's 1947 all over again sentiment. Yes, truly you have no history of repeatedly and handedly defeating attacks against your sovereignty by multiple nations at once, nor the unyielding support of the United States. Do I envy their position, no, but seriously you can't constantly tout your martial prowess, present an aggressive military policy and an apparent capacity to operate within foreign nations borders with impunity, then turn around and cry that nobody else in the neighborhood likes you and play the martyr.

(Obviously you can but still, shiat's weak.)
 
2011-04-17 01:55:01 AM
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: the New York Times.

Always the Paper of Records biggest blind spot. The Sulzbergers would pimp out their children if they thought it would help Israel.
 
2011-04-17 02:02:37 AM
www.memedepot.com
 
2011-04-17 02:07:54 AM
If it gets whiny douchebag Israel haters knickers in a knot it's fine by me.
 
2011-04-17 02:13:35 AM
@bhcompy: Everytime I hear someone blame 'The Jews' for something, that's the only thing that comes into my head anymore. Between the banking system, Illuminati influence, and the Christmas lights, it all makes sense now.


Who'd of thought Anti-Semitism could be defeated by such a simple picture, and the absurdity of it all.
 
2011-04-17 02:13:37 AM
Dwight_Yeast: They're missing the point: I don't watch al Jazera because I like Muslims and side with their cause. I watch it because I'm looking for the raw, unfiltered reporting missing from all American news services.

I'm a smart man, and can do my own critical thinking. I don't need pre-digested op-ed pieces in place of fact.


Then you're OBVIOUSLY a filthy anti-Semite no better than Hitler!!!

==============

Seriously, Israel-- the world isn't against you because of your religion. The world is against you because of your horrific treatment of the Palistinians. You want to be liked? Then QUIT STEALING THEIR FARKING LAND. Pull back to the 1967 Green line, lift your blockades, and work out an agreement to have one or more other countries handle things when the Palistinians launch rockets or do some other VERY UNDERSTANDABLE act of revenge. Keep in mind that you're just going to have to put up the occasional Palistinian attacks for the next generation or more -- that's because you guys have been treating them like animals only fit for beating for the better part of a century now.

Getting that sort of hate to die down can only be done after the generations of people you have beaten and humiliated for so long passes away.

Build all the super tall prison- style walls you want-- just do it on your own farking land.
 
2011-04-17 02:15:20 AM
But-but-but, I thought the Jews already own all the media!
 
2011-04-17 02:28:23 AM
rapidlyfiringneurons: Who'd of thought Anti-Semitism could be defeated by such a simple picture, and the absurdity of it all.

It's a funny picture for sure but to think it defeats people against Israel/Jews is pretty ridiculous. It doesn't change minds it just gets a laugh.
 
2011-04-17 02:35:50 AM
Everyone who blames entire groups for things is part of the entire problem.
All these people who classify large swaths of the human populace as if they all think/do the same thing are dumbasses.
It doesn't matter if it's Jews/Muslims/Democrats/Republicans/whites/blacks/gays/straights/whoever, they are all the same. The people prejudiced against entire groups need to just shut the hell up.
 
2011-04-17 02:39:23 AM
Begoggle: Everyone who blames entire groups for things is part of the entire problem.
All these people who classify large swaths of the human populace as if they all think/do the same thing are dumbasses.
It doesn't matter if it's Jews/Muslims/Democrats/Republicans/whites/blacks/gays/straights/whoever, they are all the same. The people prejudiced against entire groups need to just shut the hell up.


Wow, I'm pretty sure you just solved all the world's problems. When do we start holding hands and singing happy songs and shiat?
 
2011-04-17 02:39:59 AM
cyclebiff: Nobody will watch it. Why? Every 5 minutes they would reference some type of hardship they endured during the past 2k years. Who wants to hear about an exaggerated event that happened during WWII every 5 minutes?

We get it. We were forced to read your Israeli propaganda during school. Please don't subject any one else to your Israeli agenda.

Signed, the world.


You're an idiot.


qwertypoo: If it gets whiny douchebag Israel haters knickers in a knot it's fine by me.

You too.


This article is amazingly insulting to the intelligence of ANYONE reading it. There are two lines of logic, one about impartial news and the other about "winning" an image "war." That's.... not compatible. At all. In anyone's brain who isn't retarded.

Judaism is special because it is not only resilient and run by relatively smart people, but is also self-critical. The apparatus we have set up behind Israel in recent decades, however, is anything BUT.

The actions of the Israeli right wing and their lobbyist friends in the US have forced us into a moral identity crisis. This too shall pass... but it will not be peaceable, and it will not be quiet.

Get some popcorn, guys, because shiat's about to get real in JTown.
 
2011-04-17 02:49:15 AM
Pro-anything "news" is propaganda by definition.
 
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