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2011-04-15 01:49:54 PM
Wait, wait... Killing the right people is wrong? But killing the wrong people isn't right!
 
2011-04-15 02:14:15 PM
We just like killing people. We'll trot out any excuse if it means we can justify killing.
 
2011-04-15 02:23:42 PM
First off, it cuts down on the repeat offender rate.
 
2011-04-15 03:06:54 PM
FOR ICE COLD REVENGE.
 
2011-04-15 03:09:55 PM
It makes the victim's family feel good. Unless it's a rich person on trial. Rich people don't get death sentences.
 
2011-04-15 03:19:31 PM

Saborlas: We just like killing people. We'll trot out any excuse if it means we can justify killing.


Unless it's a splooge cocktail. Then it's sacred life.
 
2011-04-15 03:19:38 PM
How high are you, submitter?
 
2011-04-15 03:21:15 PM
it's those damn video games
 
2011-04-15 03:21:51 PM
mostly because people who kill people aren't worth a good crap and are better off killed themselves.
 
2011-04-15 03:23:07 PM
Dead people can't kill any more people.
 
2011-04-15 03:23:25 PM

Show us your Marx: FOR ICE COLD REVENGE.


That's it. Anybody who tries to sugar coat it any other way is full of shiat.
 
2011-04-15 03:24:08 PM
To be ironically hip?
 
2011-04-15 03:24:36 PM
Killing is wrong. And bad. There should be a new, stronger word for killing. Like badwrong, or badong. Yes, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing: gnodab.
 
2011-04-15 03:24:37 PM
because torture is out of fashion at the moment.
 
2011-04-15 03:25:21 PM

labman: First off, it cuts down on the repeat offender rate.


In other words, we kill people who kill people not to show people that killing people is wrong, but because we're tired of cleaning up after them killing people.

/works for me
 
2011-04-15 03:25:22 PM
ya really gotta ask subby? ya really don't know?

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2011-04-15 03:25:29 PM
Because Jesus. That's why.
 
2011-04-15 03:28:37 PM
I am torn on this issue.

Some people can be redeemed; rehabilitated. Others probably not. Who can decide that? At the same time, how much money do we want to throw away keeping them locked up?

Add to that the fact our prison system in the US has no focus on rehabilitation; we throw them in a cage, let them beat and rape each other, have barely-educated, low-paid people guard them (and occasionally have sex with them, buy or sell drugs to or from them, or beat and rape them themselves...)

It is a deplorable situation.
 
2011-04-15 03:30:02 PM
We don't, and we should stop lying about it. We kill murderers for the same reason we kill rabid dogs--so they will no longer be a threat to others. Likewise, if done expeditiously, exterminating these vermin is far more cost effective than paying for lifetime stays in prison. Deterrence is a non-issue. Extermination of dangerous vermin is the true goal.

PS: Put child molesters on that list, too. In fact, put child molesters ahead of the murderers.
 
2011-04-15 03:30:07 PM
Somewhere in our minds, time flows backwards, and we know already what lies ahead. A crime isn't necessary, as the innocent are punished again and again -- innocent only because they've seen their inescapable future and have chosen not to act vengefully. Most do, of course, and their inevitable fate seems justified to the waiting.

I'll tell you this much. In two weeks, I'm going to hit you very hard across the face. There's your fist. I won't move, and right now, I won't strike back. In two weeks, it's inevitable, leaving you forever changed. It's really up to you what you do to me now.
 
2011-04-15 03:30:14 PM
It fundamentally reduces the recidivism rate.
 
2011-04-15 03:31:32 PM
Execution prevents a killer from killing anyone else, and also prevents additional murders. We should have more executions and they should be done in public.
 
2011-04-15 03:32:10 PM
Because if the penalty for killing was probation, I would seek out a few.
 
2011-04-15 03:32:50 PM
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There's a song in there...
 
2011-04-15 03:33:03 PM

Marcus Aurelius: It makes the victim's family feel good. Unless it's a rich person on trial. Rich people don't get death sentences.


This, on the first part.

My uncle was murdered last year. My mother (his sister) calls for his blood.

I was never pro death penalty until I viewed my uncle's remains.

Now that I've had time to calm down and think a little more rationally, I'm torn.
 
2011-04-15 03:33:15 PM

spentmiles: Somewhere in our minds, time flows backwards, and we know already what lies ahead. A crime isn't necessary, as the innocent are punished again and again -- innocent only because they've seen their inescapable future and have chosen not to act vengefully. Most do, of course, and their inevitable fate seems justified to the waiting.

I'll tell you this much. In two weeks, I'm going to hit you very hard across the face. There's your fist. I won't move, and right now, I won't strike back. In two weeks, it's inevitable, leaving you forever changed. It's really up to you what you do to me now.


I don't know what you're on, but I want some.
 
2011-04-15 03:33:21 PM
Punishment = Crime
 
2011-04-15 03:33:33 PM

Saborlas: We just like killing people. We'll trot out any excuse if it means we can justify killing.


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2011-04-15 03:33:38 PM
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2011-04-15 03:33:49 PM
Meet the Executioner:
www.enjoy-your-style.com

... considering his name, perhaps Meat the Executioner is more appropro
 
2011-04-15 03:34:23 PM
Ok... how can anyone claim life without parole is any more humane than an execution?
They are still going to die. One just takes a lot longer to happen.
 
2011-04-15 03:34:24 PM

likesass: Because if the penalty for killing was probation, I would seek out a few.


I'd like to think most of us are better than that.

I'd be wrong, but I'd like to be right.
 
2011-04-15 03:34:27 PM
Silly_Sot: We don't, and we should stop lying about it. We kill murderers for the same reason we kill rabid dogs--so they will no longer be a threat to others. Likewise, if done expeditiously, exterminating these vermin is far more cost effective than paying for lifetime stays in prison. Deterrence is a non-issue. Extermination of dangerous vermin is the true goal.

PS: Put child molesters on that list, too. In fact, put child molesters ahead of the murderers.


Agreed, but you should add rapists to the list.

//Sometimes I wish there was a real-life "Dexter"...

///Not crazy, I swear.
 
2011-04-15 03:34:41 PM
Because we ran out of penal colonies and it's too expense to send them into space?

/You act like a rabid dog, you get treated like one.
//Rapists and child molesters need the chair, too.
 
2011-04-15 03:34:57 PM

meta1hed: There's a song in there...


Wasn't it Barbra Streisand?

/People..
Who kill people..
Are the luckiest people...
//or something
 
2011-04-15 03:35:24 PM
There is a magnificent amount of stupid in this thread. Educate thyselves:

press.princeton.edu
 
2011-04-15 03:35:28 PM
Yo dawg...
 
2011-04-15 03:35:53 PM
cuz those people are TOTALLY in the way of making a ton o' cash!
 
2011-04-15 03:36:27 PM
Because sharing the planet with some very bad people isn't necessary.

Subby's four years old, right?
 
2011-04-15 03:36:31 PM
The death penalty:

Doesn't do anything to reduce the murder rate
Takes years to have someone executed
Costs the same as or more than imprisoning the criminal for life
Has often resulted in innocent people being executed for crimes they didn't commit

It's done for purely emotional reasons and really contributes nothing to society. Yay us.
 
2011-04-15 03:36:58 PM

Show us your Marx: FOR ICE COLD REVENGE.


It's not revenge he's after. It's the reckoning.

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2011-04-15 03:37:28 PM
It may seem cold to say but, everyone dies. If a person commits the crime of murder sometimes that person forfeits the right to live. As with everything in life circumstances are key, the victim is key and the motive is key.

I have met people that no matter what would never change their mentality in regards to the value of human life, I have also met people who kill and hate themselves forever for doing it.

As a former soldier I live everyday with the pain and guilt of what I have done, does that mean I should be killed? Maybe, but some people don't even reflect on the action, they don't even mourn the people they kill. They don't view it as a horrible act of survival, they view it as glorious and even perversely enjoyable. To me that is so important in judging whether someone should pay the ultimate price for their actions.

We cannot read minds, but someone who has walked that path can usually tell in another person what is in their mind and heart.

Sorry if that sounds deep but I have thought a lot about this.
 
2011-04-15 03:37:43 PM
"The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we ... kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok ... But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace."

-Bill Hicks
 
2011-04-15 03:38:09 PM
Psycho/sociopaths should all be euthanized anyway.

Too bad they're mostly the poor and/or stupid ones who get DP'd.

There's some wealthy ones who could use a good hanging or gassing.
 
2011-04-15 03:39:11 PM
Some people just need killin'.
 
2011-04-15 03:40:08 PM

Sirjohnfalstaff: Dead people can't kill any more people.


Or be released when the evidence proves they were innocent. Nor can they be rehabilitated.

TheWhoppah: Execution prevents a killer from killing anyone else, and also prevents additional murders. We should have more executions and they should be done in public.


False. If it was true then death row should be empty by now.

Silly_Sot: We kill murderers for the same reason we kill rabid dogs--so they will no longer be a threat to others


Imprisoned murderers are no longer a threat.
 
2011-04-15 03:40:11 PM

Shenanigans!: The death penalty:

Doesn't do anything to reduce the murder rate
Takes years to have someone executed
Costs the same as or more than imprisoning the criminal for life
Has often resulted in innocent people being executed for crimes they didn't commit.


That sounds like problems to solve, not an argument to do away with the death penalty.
 
2011-04-15 03:41:29 PM
I don't think we kill people to show people it's wrong to kill people.

We kill people to punish them, and to be damned sure they won't kill anybody else.

I mean, clearly the death penalty is not a deterrent...
 
2011-04-15 03:42:32 PM
Because they need it.
 
2011-04-15 03:43:15 PM
TofuTheAlmighty: There is a magnificent amount of stupid in this thread. Educate thyselves:

Throwing a serial killer or rapist in jail is just a waste of time and money. They can't be "fixed", and if they escape, they'll just kll or rape again.

Some people are just evil, and need to be killed. It's not pretty, but the real world isn't all unicorns and glitter.
 
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