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2011-04-12 08:40:41 AM  
The lady pictured in the story would like a word with submitter.
 
2011-04-12 08:54:10 AM  
www.jennqpublic.com
 
2011-04-12 08:56:08 AM  
Subby must have read Phyllis and thought Phallus.

/NTTAWWT
 
2011-04-12 08:56:39 AM  
When you buy a property you are presented with the HOA rules and deed restrictions. You sign them. If you don't agree with them then don't purchase the property.

That said, the lady is a nut.
 
2011-04-12 08:56:59 AM  
...............Did smitty even read the article, or did his emotion-pet's barking keep him from seeing some key facts in this case?
 
2011-04-12 08:58:32 AM  
However, her Deerfield Beach, Fla., condo association said, it doesn't care what the reason is, the rules are the rules and the dog isn't allowed under its "no walking pets" rule. Especially since it hasn't received proof that Sweetie is really a service dog.

OK, get her a big ol' snake and see what the HOA says.
 
2011-04-12 08:59:56 AM  
It's too bad that we don't have some mods to check these sort of things.
 
2011-04-12 08:59:56 AM  
With pic of what a old man might look like
 
2011-04-12 09:00:14 AM  
"no walking pets"

Well I can fix that problem with my dremel. Goddamn it really can do anything.
 
2011-04-12 09:00:58 AM  
Why would a group of dentists concern themselves with loneliness? Don't they make enough money to hire escorts if need be?
 
2011-04-12 09:01:00 AM  
I hate HOAs - I don't want anyone dictating to me how I live, or how I MAY live.

i51.tinypic.com
 
2011-04-12 09:02:15 AM  
Good for him. I have no use for people who don't like pets and even less for people who like to control the lives of others, HOA or no.
 
2011-04-12 09:02:31 AM  
Best Korea? My God, are they going to eat the dog?

/dnrtfa
 
2011-04-12 09:02:58 AM  
I wanted to be snarky, but then I read that she needed emotional support because she lost her husband of 42 years in a car crash.

That shiat isn't funny.
 
2011-04-12 09:03:05 AM  

therealpope: When you buy a property you are presented with the HOA rules and deed restrictions. You sign them. If you don't agree with them then don't purchase the property.

That said, the lady is a nut.


NEWS FLASH!!! People's circumstances change and a rule isn't a rule if it breaks the law.
 
2011-04-12 09:03:33 AM  
Wondering what's wrong with America? Check the pic.
www.blogcdn.com
 
2011-04-12 09:06:11 AM  
ModernLuddite: I wanted to be snarky, but then I read that she needed emotional support because she lost her husband of 42 years in a car crash.

Not quite. Her husband of 42 years jumped in front of a car, to escape from being married to a tranny.
 
2011-04-12 09:07:08 AM  

squidgod2000: Wondering what's wrong with America? Check the pic.


Aw, so what? Half of Florida looks like that.
 
2011-04-12 09:07:45 AM  
It is my personal opinion that "emotional support animals" are a crutch that does more long-term harm than good. These folks use the animals as a way to avoid confronting their emotions/issues, so they never really get better.

At least one person I know has a dog that she insists is an emotional support animal so she can bring it to places/events where no pets are allowed. I think she's full of crap, and her not-at-all-well-behaved-like-a-proper-service-dog is an annoying pest.

Of course, I'm also basing my opinion on an episode of "obsessed" where this woman had one of these support dogs and she made no real progress in her treatment until she took the (admittedly very difficult) step to stop calling her dog a "service animal" and treat him like a normal pet.

/not a psychologist/doctor/psychiatrist/counselor
// Didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night either
/// But I did save a lot of money on my car ins... ok, I'll shut up
 
2011-04-12 09:08:18 AM  
I swear this guy is on my Fark ignore list

"jagcapt007

The greatest gifts of a civilized democracy is the ability of like minded people to live comfortably in thier home. The greatest gifts of radicals is nothing is illegal, except rules against their entitlement mentality. Senior's have banned together to make adult only communities. As ALL homes plummet in values, thus far theirs have maintained value.


Obama and the DNC has created the highest victim class in all recorded history. The middle class saw more loses, than the great depression. The elderly lost home value, and so many millions lost their jobs. Like the strikeing union teachers that recieved doctor's notes for public striking, the courts are quickly adapting."
 
2011-04-12 09:09:23 AM  

CheekyMonkey: ModernLuddite: I wanted to be snarky, but then I read that she needed emotional support because she lost her husband of 42 years in a car crash.

Not quite. Her husband of 42 years jumped in front of a car, to escape from being married to a tranny.


Or maybe he pushed the wife in front of the car and it's really him pretending to be her...
 
2011-04-12 09:09:36 AM  

CheekyMonkey: ModernLuddite: I wanted to be snarky, but then I read that she needed emotional support because she lost her husband of 42 years in a car crash.

Not quite. Her husband of 42 years jumped in front of a car, to escape from being married to a tranny.


i52.tinypic.com
 
2011-04-12 09:10:08 AM  
So subby, if I tell you your headline was awesome, will you misread that to mean that it really sucks hard? 'Cause it was really, really awesome.
 
2011-04-12 09:10:37 AM  
When I hear the name Phyllis, I think of...
img190.imageshack.us

Fits.
 
2011-04-12 09:11:16 AM  

skodabunny: therealpope: When you buy a property you are presented with the HOA rules and deed restrictions. You sign them. If you don't agree with them then don't purchase the property.

That said, the lady is a nut.

NEWS FLASH!!! People's circumstances change and a rule isn't a rule if it breaks the law.


If the woman could produce a doctor's prescription that a dog was her only cure for "loneliness", then I'd say screw the HOA rules that she signed. Otherwise, go start a bridge club or something.

/There was a thread yesterday about bogus service dogs
//You'd be hard-pressed to convince me that lap rat is a "service dog"
///Woman in TFA is probably one of those idiot dog owners who treats it like a child instead of a dog. The jeweled collar & pink coat are dead giveaways.
 
2011-04-12 09:13:32 AM  
I can sympathize with both sides of this mess. Being an old lady on your own after 42 years of marriage sucks. Putting up with yappy little dogs in cutsie clothing sucks.

/Lives in Florida
//Is surrounded by stuff like this
 
2011-04-12 09:13:41 AM  

StrikitRich: However, her Deerfield Beach, Fla., condo association said, it doesn't care what the reason is, the rules are the rules and the dog isn't allowed under its "no walking pets" rule. Especially since it hasn't received proof that Sweetie is really a service dog.

OK, get her a big ol' snake and see what the HOA says.


Or Li'l Brudder:

img224.echo.cx
 
2011-04-12 09:14:44 AM  

brigid_fitch: skodabunny: therealpope: When you buy a property you are presented with the HOA rules and deed restrictions. You sign them. If you don't agree with them then don't purchase the property.

That said, the lady is a nut.

NEWS FLASH!!! People's circumstances change and a rule isn't a rule if it breaks the law.

If the woman could produce a doctor's prescription that a dog was her only cure for "loneliness", then I'd say screw the HOA rules that she signed. Otherwise, go start a bridge club or something.

/There was a thread yesterday about bogus service dogs
//You'd be hard-pressed to convince me that lap rat is a "service dog"
///Woman in TFA is probably one of those idiot dog owners who treats it like a child instead of a dog. The jeweled collar & pink coat are dead giveaways.


I guarantee you that if the papers were drawn up properly there is a provision that states that if any provision herein contained is illegal it shall be of no further force or effect - or similar wording.
 
2011-04-12 09:15:02 AM  
So let me see if I am following the bouncing ball on this one. She looses her husband of 42 years and is going through post-traumatic stress because of a car accident, so her doctor prescribes her a companion dog to keep her company. Meanwhile, her neighbors and HOA board start harassing her because of a little yip-yip dog. Way to add insult to injury people.

/can't stand HOAs
//hope this lady wins on principle alone, then moves out just to spite them.
 
2011-04-12 09:15:40 AM  

CheekyMonkey: ModernLuddite: I wanted to be snarky, but then I read that she needed emotional support because she lost her husband of 42 years in a car crash.

Not quite. Her husband of 42 years jumped in front of a car, to escape from being married to a tranny.


And ironically he was struck by a drag-racing trans-am.

/p.s. If this isn't really irony, then I am using "ironically" ironically.
 
2011-04-12 09:18:06 AM  
That's not a man, baby!
 
2011-04-12 09:19:04 AM  
CSB time.

My parents just bought a house in a gated community in a certain state known for its old people and idiot politics.

They are Yankees, so they swooped down to "take advantage of low prices." Well, the guy selling the house managed to get them to buy without negotiating. And then a month later, the HOA publishes a newsletter braying that my parents bought their house for the highest price in the entire city since the crash , and this is evidence that their HOA is good and keeps the property value high.

So...yeah. Since originally my parents moved to the middle of nowhere in order to be able to put whatever they wanted on their own goddamn lawn, this is going to be interesting.
 
2011-04-12 09:25:21 AM  
I wave my private parts in your gated community's general direction.
 
2011-04-12 09:25:38 AM  
I do have a friend whose dog has been declared a "companion animal" to combat her depression. As far as I can tell, it is a federal crime to not rent an apartment to her because of this dog.
 
2011-04-12 09:32:51 AM  
My dog helps me keep my sanity. He also gives me a reason to walk around the neighborhood (and not look like a wandering alzheimers patient) and meet people. I'd fight like crazy if someone wanted me to give him up. He's not a little purse-dog though.

/widow
 
2011-04-12 09:33:40 AM  
I'm fairly certain that's my uncle Jeff.
 
2011-04-12 09:33:58 AM  
I could send over my Little Mista Kitty

i36.tinypic.com

She still has three legs but kind of slithers around.

BTW, FTA However, her Deerfield Beach, Fla., condo association said, it doesn't care what the reason is, the rules are the rules and the dog isn't allowed under its "no walking pets" rule. Especially since it hasn't received proof that Sweetie is really a service dog.

Sounds like she's one of those special people who the rules don't apply to. Maybe she should just move to a more pet friendly condo/appt.
 
2011-04-12 09:37:19 AM  

brigid_fitch: skodabunny: therealpope: When you buy a property you are presented with the HOA rules and deed restrictions. You sign them. If you don't agree with them then don't purchase the property.

That said, the lady is a nut.

NEWS FLASH!!! People's circumstances change and a rule isn't a rule if it breaks the law.

If the woman could produce a doctor's prescription that a dog was her only cure for "loneliness", then I'd say screw the HOA rules that she signed. Otherwise, go start a bridge club or something.

/There was a thread yesterday about bogus service dogs
//You'd be hard-pressed to convince me that lap rat is a "service dog"
///Woman in TFA is probably one of those idiot dog owners who treats it like a child instead of a dog. The jeweled collar & pink coat are dead giveaways.


I take it back. I only skimmed TFA so re-read after airplayne's post. Doctors did prescribe the lap rat, in which case the HOA should shove it. If she had been stricken blind, they couldn't legally say boo about a seeing-eye dog. However, you'd think someone with PTSD would get something other than a nervous, shaky, hyperactive, yappy little animal like a Chihuahua. Maybe a Basenji that doesn't bark or a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel that was bred to be a lazy lap dog.
 
2011-04-12 09:37:31 AM  

airplayne: So let me see if I am following the bouncing ball on this one. She looses loses her husband of 42 years and is going through post-traumatic stress because of a car accident, so her doctor prescribes her a companion dog to keep her company. Meanwhile, her neighbors and HOA board start harassing her because of a little yip-yip dog. Way to add insult to injury people.

/can't stand HOAs
//hope this lady wins on principle alone, then moves out just to spite them.


/FTFY
//Can't stand people who do this.
///Not a grammar nazi, just hate stupid people.
 
2011-04-12 09:38:03 AM  

DigitalSorceress: /not a psychologist/doctor/psychiatrist/counselor


Color me surprised.
 
2011-04-12 09:38:11 AM  

Janusdog: CSB time.

My parents just bought a house in a gated community in a certain state known for its old people and idiot politics.

They are Yankees, so they swooped down to "take advantage of low prices." Well, the guy selling the house managed to get them to buy without negotiating. And then a month later, the HOA publishes a newsletter braying that my parents bought their house for the highest price in the entire city since the crash , and this is evidence that their HOA is good and keeps the property value high.

So...yeah. Since originally my parents moved to the middle of nowhere in order to be able to put whatever they wanted on their own goddamn lawn, this is going to be interesting.


Wow. For your sake, I hope dumb skips a generation.

Back to TFA...What a bunch of dickwads her neighbors are, picking on a lonely widow. They can't be content to settle it through official means, so they're assholes to her, push her, drop f-bombs. And I'd bet you an Internet dollar these folks would do the same thing if they were in her position, and would cry just as loud about how unfair the HOA is.

/cock gobblers
 
2011-04-12 09:38:39 AM  

AnyName: I could send over my Little Mista Kitty



She still has three legs but kind of slithers around.

BTW, FTA However, her Deerfield Beach, Fla., condo association said, it doesn't care what the reason is, the rules are the rules and the dog isn't allowed under its "no walking pets" rule. Especially since it hasn't received proof that Sweetie is really a service dog.

Sounds like she's one of those special people who the rules don't apply to. Maybe she should just move to a more pet friendly condo/appt.


Yeah because as we all know, the housing market is so good right now its a snap to sell your existing condo. O.o
 
2011-04-12 09:43:13 AM  

AnyName: Especially since it hasn't received proof that Sweetie is really a service dog.

Sounds like she's one of those special people who the rules don't apply to. Maybe she should just move to a more pet friendly condo/appt.


Although I agree that she's probably one of THOSE dog people, there's no such thing as "proof" for a service dog. There is no accepted standard or training since service dogs cover a wide variety of functions. However, a doctor's prescription should be enough to shut up the HOA. PTSD is a real disorder and if the dog helps her, that's great. Even though you know damn well she's treating it like a child and not like a dog.
 
2011-04-12 09:46:09 AM  
Why would anybody pay a lot of money to "own" an apartment where you pay a monthly fee for the privilege of having a bunch of arrogant, pushy, menopausal biddies tell you what you can and can't do with your alleged property? I swear you can sell moose piss if you repackage it and glue a designer label on it.
 
2011-04-12 09:46:23 AM  
I thought it was fairly settled law that HOA's are little independent kingdoms that aren't bound by the Constitution or any other outside laws. That can be the only explanation for why they are allowed to violate the resident's freedom of speech and assembly.
 
2011-04-12 09:49:20 AM  
I really can't imagine losing a mate after 42 years. Maybe this is a woman-thing because most men do not expect to outlive their spouses. Despite all of the extra time my father spent with his family, friends, and church, Heck, he even started working again, but after my mother died he went and got a pet. I think the subconscious knowledge that someone/thing that you care about depends on you in some way helps you get to sleep at night and wake up in the morning. Most of life is just going through the motions, but as you get older and become less important the need for a living, breathing interdependence is quite real. My guess is that the best options for this woman is to find a new spouse (unlikely), move back in with her family (really unlikely), or take solace with a lesser animal. Life sucks enough, I don't see why the people that run HOAs feel the need to make it suck more.
 
2011-04-12 09:52:38 AM  

madgonad: I really can't imagine losing a mate after 42 years. Maybe this is a woman-thing because most men do not expect to outlive their spouses. Despite all of the extra time my father spent with his family, friends, and church, Heck, he even started working again, but after my mother died he went and got a pet. I think the subconscious knowledge that someone/thing that you care about depends on you in some way helps you get to sleep at night and wake up in the morning. Most of life is just going through the motions, but as you get older and become less important the need for a living, breathing interdependence is quite real. My guess is that the best options for this woman is to find a new spouse (unlikely), move back in with her family (really unlikely), or take solace with a lesser animal. Life sucks enough, I don't see why the people that run HOAs feel the need to make it suck more.


Because HOAs are composed of heartless assholes who have nothing better to do than make the lives of other residents as miserable as they are.

/All HOAs should DIAF [slowly]
 
2011-04-12 09:54:00 AM  

Queuebert: Janusdog: CSB time.

My parents just bought a house in a gated community in a certain state known for its old people and idiot politics.

They are Yankees, so they swooped down to "take advantage of low prices." Well, the guy selling the house managed to get them to buy without negotiating. And then a month later, the HOA publishes a newsletter braying that my parents bought their house for the highest price in the entire city since the crash , and this is evidence that their HOA is good and keeps the property value high.

So...yeah. Since originally my parents moved to the middle of nowhere in order to be able to put whatever they wanted on their own goddamn lawn, this is going to be interesting.

Wow. For your sake, I hope dumb skips a generation.


I like to think it did, since I was horrified when they told me what they had done. But eternal vigilance and all of that.
 
2011-04-12 09:55:58 AM  

brigid_fitch: If the woman could did receive produce a doctor's prescription that a dog was her only cure for "loneliness", then I'd say screw the HOA rules that she signed.


Fixed that for you an every other lazy-ass who couldn't be bothered to RTFA.
 
2011-04-12 09:56:17 AM  

Lost Thought 00: I thought it was fairly settled law that HOA's are little independent kingdoms that aren't bound by the Constitution or any other outside laws. That can be the only explanation for why they are allowed to violate the resident's freedom of speech and assembly.


You rights aren't violated if you sign them away as part of an agreement to live somewhere.

While I feel bad for the lady, the other people who moved into a dog free community have rights as well.
 
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