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2011-04-11 11:23:30 PM  

zvoidx: Wait, let me get this straight: even though we now have a definitive announcement, as reported by all major news sources, that this is a level 7 on par with Chernobyl, possibly worse, and you remain in the "people are overreacting" camp???!!?


As said many times, Chernobyl is a totally different situation.

This is not Chernobyl. This is a nuclear accident that was serious.

A serious nuclear accident is not the same as "zomg EVERYTHING IS GOING TO DIE".

And yes, people are overreacting. Primarily people who this does not, in any way, effect.

It's sort of like people saying "evolution is debated by scientists!" It means something totally different to the scientists (i.e. yes, how evolution happened is debated, not the fact that it happened) than to the general public.

Likewise, industry terminology is not the same as lay terminology, and the mainstream press (not to mention the internet) is the worst place to base your truthy fears.

Or do you still believe that the Gulf oil spill destroyed all life in the Atlantic?
 
2011-04-11 11:23:52 PM  
Sounds like BS to me.

Heck, heaps of Farkspurts with a GED in nuclear physics have been telling us for weeks that it's nothing to worry about coz nookular fishin' is good for you.

Heaven knows they couldn't possibly be speaking out of their collective rectums, err... could they?

Oh yeah, and I thought a terabecquerel was a tasty Canadian pastry.
 
2011-04-11 11:24:05 PM  

itazurakko: ThunderPelvis: Oh for f*ck's sake. Is this the thread where people living thousands of miles from Japan wet themselves?

The latest of many...

/goes back to watching TV


I've really enjoyed how usually the same people who think we should invade everyone and thrust ourselves into the role of World Police don't think we should give a shiat when something like this happens.
 
2011-04-11 11:24:09 PM  

My Bologna Has A Maiden Name: Still support nuclear as a stepping stone between fossil fuels and something sustainable in the long term. In the end it will have to be solar. If we can only figure out how to make efficient use of it it's nigh limitless energy for billions of years.


images.wikia.com

watch out for drunk nostalgic scotsmen
 
2011-04-11 11:24:15 PM  

JSTACAT: Lets face it folks, mankind can not put the gennie back into the bottle.
Atomic Piles all over the world will be shutdown by the time this is over in 5 yrs.
And, its Just as true now as when i said it 4 wks ago, there was utter failure of containment s, and it has not even been mitigated.
they have not told us the rest of the story yet. It is grim.

Moving it up to 7 means that the whole truth can slowly come out. It will allow the media to slow down the info to a stream of
"we're working on it" bits.

Anyone who knows anything about Atomic Piles can tell you its out of control, at least 6 have meltdown in spent ponds, and/ or The actual Piles.
What we are not hearing about is the condition of 15 - 20 adjacent Atomic Piles.
latest quakes are near Tokyo..under land.

My estimate still stands, Tokyo evacuated, most of N. Japan uninhabitable. Emigration...
Ocean fisheries severely impacted, mostly from the perception radiation can harm if ingested.

Remember kids, when faced with long term fallout, a very sparse diet and mineral supps can help you survive longer, with less damage.
Try not to conceive & etc, its not fair to the kids


Umm,

Yer poetry needs work, friend. While possible, it lacks probable, and needs presentable.

Ouchies.

Keep working, J.

Best minus glowies.

I still have sad glowies.

Boo.

;(
 
2011-04-11 11:24:24 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Can someone explain to me how come we're so helpless against a bit of water? We don't seem to have the technology to control a 40 year old reactor? (Such old technology after all! Surely things have improved a billion, nay, a trillion times since?)
But we'll colonize Mars.
Got it.
/This is how Space Nutters actually think
//Can't be that reality is very complex and our technology very, very limited
///Making smaller and smaller transistors is not quite the same as a warp drive, eh loons?


Let's see what you can do, personally, against a hundred billion tonnes of water.

The ability to make newer and better things does not give you a supernatural control over the old things.

We will probably put men on Mars within my lifetime, but that's not really the issue here.

And lastly... You're an idiot. You go into any thread even remotely science related to spout off about how "space nutters" are crazy for advocating travel to space, because obviously you know better and know that we can only invest scientifically in one thing. Which obviously HAS to be prolonging life. When you can figure out that we can actually do both, you can consider yourself not an idiot. Until then... idiot.

/NASA is a make-work program.
 
2011-04-11 11:24:33 PM  

CygnusDarius: Knara: Someone's been playing a little too much

Fallout: Japan... Ninja/Samurai Super-mutants, Yakuza-owned New Vegas-style settlements, the Imperial Enclave, the JDF Brotherhood of Steel, and of course, Vaults.

Sounds awesome.


That does sound pretty awesome....
 
2011-04-11 11:24:43 PM  
No obvious tag?
 
2011-04-11 11:24:52 PM  

zzrhardy: It's a 7, but it's not a Chernobyl by orders of magnitude. As others have pointed out, Chernobyl went off the charts.


Where "7" and "7" represent different values for "7".

You may be "correct" but if they're both now officially "7" no one will believe you. "AS BAD AS CHERNOBYL" will be what people remember.
 
2011-04-11 11:24:59 PM  
Anybody else get the feeling that the chart only goes to 7 because the nuke agencies don't want to admit there's an 8, 9, and 10?

I can think of scenarios worse than Chernobyl without even having to try.
 
2011-04-11 11:25:18 PM  

rka: CygnusDarius: Kinda sucks when the theory that you believed in failed due to simple human corruption.

Also, kind of sucks too when there's enough "OMG YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" idiots when you have friends and family in Japan.

What's going to be the reaction when they disclose the evacuation area should have been double what it is now?


This is the thing that bothers me.

With all the info we were getting (from TEPCO et al) at the time, this was a problem, but a manageable one. As we lost cooling capabilities the problem got exponentially worse. What's to say TEPCO isn't STILL trying to say things aren't as bad as they are?
 
2011-04-11 11:25:43 PM  
Finally!

(The article. Watching dead tree cathode ray tube news, they hooked up on the internet just to say firsthand that Nuclear Boy had diarrhea)
 
2011-04-11 11:25:48 PM  

Weaver95: oh good...a Chernobyl scale accident right next to the ocean. i'm sure THAT will end well...


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-04-11 11:26:21 PM  

DORMAMU: texdent: People who could help if they weren't fictional:
Superman
Batman
Reed Richards
Firestorm
Tony Stark
Bruce Banner
Hank Pym
Hank McCoy
Goku making a wish on the Dragonballs
Sailor Moon with the Silver Crystal
T'challa

Capt atom
Capt planet
Yellow power ranger
Mighty mophing midget gnomes
Gundam zero
The doctor (3rd thru fifth, or 7th)
Evangelion suit 01
L.A. blue girl
Kakashi sensei
Voltron


Any one got any others?


I love where this is headed. Can I please be present when you present a list of fictional characters that could have helped if they weren't fictional to the Japanese government?
 
2011-04-11 11:26:28 PM  

SumoJeb: FTFA
Level 7 has formerly only been applied to the Chernobyl accident in the former Soviet Union in 1986 when hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels.

Oh, well I'm glad they cleared that up. I had no idea what the prefix on a becquerel was.. totally cleared that up. Good thing that becquerel is such a common word that it didn't need a definition as well.


Well, the important thing is most of the reports from Fukusallshima has had ratings in fractions of a becquerel to tens of thousands of becquerels. That's a LONG way from hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels, whatever the hell a becquerel is.
 
2011-04-11 11:26:37 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Anybody else get the feeling that the chart only goes to 7 because the nuke agencies don't want to admit there's an 8, 9, and 10?

I can think of scenarios worse than Chernobyl without even having to try.


I've suspected the same thing. Especially since we have been fed watered-down horseshiat since this started.
 
2011-04-11 11:26:41 PM  

Ender's: Does anybody know what actually caused these levels?


Trillions of becquerels.
 
2011-04-11 11:26:54 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2011-04-11 11:26:55 PM  
www.empireonline.com

"What the hell is a becquerel???"
 
2011-04-11 11:26:59 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Anybody else get the feeling that the chart only goes to 7 because the nuke agencies don't want to admit there's an 8, 9, and 10?

I can think of scenarios worse than Chernobyl without even having to try.


Er... It's not like that. The chart is more like a.b.c.d.e.f.g, not 1-7.

I think if we blew up the Erf, it'd still be a 7.
 
2011-04-11 11:27:01 PM  

Knara: As said many times, Chernobyl is a totally different situation.

This is not Chernobyl. This is a nuclear accident that was serious


The funny/sad part is that now even TEPCO says this may become worse than Chernobyl in total radioactive release - yet the fark experts are still in denial.
 
2011-04-11 11:27:05 PM  

MrSteve007: News flash from TEPCO

"NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCO"

Link (new window)


That, and related links are all redlit on the Kyodo list. Curious what's up with that.
 
2011-04-11 11:27:12 PM  
TOKYO-An aftershock that shook Japan's northeast region temporarily shut down power supply and makeshift cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi plant Monday, highlighting the vulnerability of the crippled facility a month after a massive earthquake triggered the nation's worst nuclear-power crisis.

Cooling functions at three of the plant's six reactors were restored 50 minutes after the temblor that rattled Fukushima and surrounding areas. Regulators said the suspension didn't appear to have caused any significant safety issues.

Still, the latest quake served as a reminder of how lingering aftershocks and the risk of tsunami could easily upset the delicate efforts to stabilize the problems at the stricken plant. The 7.1 magnitude quake centered in a Fukushima town, 65 kilometers south of the plant, and came on the heels of another quake Friday that temporarily shut down power at two other nuclear power plants in the region.

The overheating reactors at Fukushima Daiichi have two layers of backup functions in case of a power cut-diesel-powered generators and emergency fire pumps-so they can continue receiving cooling water. But these functions require workers to turn them on manually. This became a problem Monday as a tsunami warning forced all workers to move to a shelter on the plant grounds.

"These disruptions must be solved rapidly as a prolonged lack of cooling would easily end the respite they have managed to maintain," said Tetsuo Iguchi, a professor of radiation engineering at Nagoya University.

Two more earthquakes shook Japan early Tuesday, but there were no immediate reports of damage or injuries, with the levels of magnitude smaller than recent aftershocks that have struck.

The Japan Meteorological Agency said the first quake hit the Fukushima area at 8:06 a.m. with a magnitude of 4.0. The second quake struck in the ocean east of Tokyo area at 8:08 a.m. with a magnitude of 6.3, shaking the downtown Tokyo area.

Despite the lesson from the earlier quake and tsunami that rendered the plant's backup cooling systems fully dysfunctional, officials acknowledge the temporary cooling functions at the plant aren't prepared for large tsunamis.

"We have several power-generating trucks on standby. There are also spare pumps for emergency," Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said after Monday's aftershock. "But the plant itself has no special protection against large tsunami right now," he added. "Right now it is impossible to do anything to improve the defense of the structure. "

A spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power Co., the plan't operator, said the company's efforts are focused on containing the accident: "We don't have capacity right now" to make these temporary functions tsunami-proof, he said. To minimize the potential problem from Monday's power cut, Tepco sent some workers back to their posts to oversee the return of cooling as soon as the projected time of the forecasted tsunami past. This happened before the tsunami warning was officially lifted, so the company posted watchmen for waves as well, the spokesman said.

With radiation leaks hampering efforts to install permanent cooling machinery at the plant, the operators are relying on unstable temporary functions to prevent further problems. Among them is the injection of small amounts of water to keep the reactors from heating to dangerous temperatures that would cause further melting of fuel cores, or in worst cases, hydrogen explosions.

In particular, Mr. Iguchi said, the No. 1 reactor faces a high risk of a dangerous flare-up with the termination of water supply like the one occurred on Monday. The temperature and pressure levels in the reactor remain particularly high at No. 1, where two-thirds of its fuel core is exposed. "There could easily be more melting of the core," he said.

Tepco has been injecting nitrogen into the No. 1 reactor to prevent a hydrogen explosion but the injection was suspended after Monday's quake, the company said. Power supplies to the plant's three other reactors were unaffected.

Monday's tremor caused some injuries and damage to many homes exactly one month after March 11 quake that decimated the Tohoku region. Officials said 220,000 households lost power Monday. A mudslide in Iwaki in Fukushima prefecture buried three homes with some people inside. Four people were rescued, according to national broadcaster NHK, and authorities were checking to see if others were buried.

Earlier in the day, Tepco president Masataka Shimizu made a trip to Fukushima to apologize to its people, but met a cold shoulder when he requested a meeting with governor Yuhei Sato.

At the Fukushima plant, operators nearly completed the work of emptying storage facilities for low-level radioactive water, clearing space for more contaminated water that needs to be pumped out of the damaged reactors to enable repair work. In all, more than 10,000 tons of mildly tainted water was dumped into the sea from these facilities over the past several days. Separately, Tepco said that unmanned power shovels and trucks began removing the debris covering the plant grounds as a result of earlier hydrogen explosions that damaged reactor buildings. Such debris has been a source of radiation leaks while at the same time slowing repair work by blocking the paths of heavy machinery.

Aftershocks have continued incessantly since the March 11 quake that killed more than 13,000 people. About 13, 700 are still missing. On April 8, a powerful aftershock shut down power supplies at two nuclear power plants operated by Tohoku Electric Co. in Miyagi prefecture, north of Fukushima. Both plants lost cooling functions for their reactors for up to an hour and 20 minutes. Both had been safely shut down after the March 11 quake, and the temporary loss of cooling didn't result in major problems, such as rises in reactor temperatures, regulators said.

Supplies of electricity are currently easily disrupted in the Tohoku region, as many of its thermal and nuclear power plants have been shut down by the March 11 quake, putting significant stress on the power grid.



Link (new window)
 
2011-04-11 11:27:12 PM  

zvoidx: Wait, let me get this straight: even though we now have a definitive announcement, as reported by all major news sources, that this is a level 7 on par with Chernobyl, possibly worse, and you remain in the "people are overreacting" camp???!!?


That depends on your reaction. If your reaction is, "Wow, that really sucks and its a serious nuclear environmental disaster and major problem for those unfortunate people who lived inside the exclusion zone and it will take years and years to clean up, and a full cleanup may even be impossible in our lifetimes," then I don't think you're overreacting. If your reaction is, "ZOMFG, RUN FOR THE HILLS!! EVACUATE JAPAN NOW!1!! I LIVE IN WITCHITA, BUT WHERE ARE MY IODINE TABLETS!!11!" then I think you're overreacting.

You are aware that Chernobyl released thousands of times more radiation than Fukushima has to date, correct? And that radiation in Tokyo, the largest population center in Japan (and the world, for that matter), is just slightly above normal background levels?
 
2011-04-11 11:27:14 PM  
so what's that in hogsheads?
 
2011-04-11 11:27:49 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: So....Japan's gonna be abandoned?


Don't be silly.

/Japandoned
 
2011-04-11 11:28:00 PM  

ibanezdude: Chernobyl released hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels into the atmosphere. It released hundreds and thousands of them. That's as many as several quadrillion becquerels.

And that's terrible.


See, it's that name, gotta change that name to something more tangable...like, "Hundreds of thousands of teraleukemia" or "A lot of Cancersludge."

This is Cave Johnson, we're done here.
 
2011-04-11 11:29:10 PM  

HoboSong: texdent: People who could help if they weren't fictional:
Superman
Batman
Reed Richards
Firestorm
Tony Stark
Bruce Banner
Hank Pym
Hank McCoy
Goku making a wish on the Dragonballs
Sailor Moon with the Silver Crystal
T'challa


Wow. How about Jesus? Dont see him on your list


That is the kicker... Many archeologists have found evidence that a man did exist during that time frame that could be jesus (real name or not).

Whether he us the sin of god and performed those miracles is a theological discussion. But the fact remains, there is evidence he existed.

Remember, the city of troy was thought a myth until it was discovered....
 
2011-04-11 11:29:15 PM  

Ender's: Does anybody know what actually caused these levels?


Same thing which causes all levels from a meltdown: The fuel rods melting.

The way they rate them really depends on which way the wind is blowing, or how close the guy taking readings dares to get. I've been saying for awhile that it's as bad a Chernobyl, simply because at least one reactor is in full meltdown, and has been for awhile, but now it would seem a gust of wind carried a reading to one guys device that made it a 7, and other people who's gust was lower are arguing.
 
2011-04-11 11:29:39 PM  

Acrox: Finally!

(The article. Watching dead tree cathode ray tube news, they hooked up on the internet just to say firsthand that Nuclear Boy had diarrhea)


Some unfortunate phrasing here, whatever.

"Finally someone greenlit fine Fark discussion about the subject", since even dead tree format was short of coming first.

We need some of these awesome korean nuke umbrellas.
 
2011-04-11 11:29:58 PM  

ThunderPelvis: That depends on your reaction. If your reaction is, "Wow, that really sucks and its a serious nuclear environmental disaster and major problem for those unfortunate people who lived inside the exclusion zone and it will take years and years to clean up, and a full cleanup may even be impossible in our lifetimes," then I don't think you're overreacting. If your reaction is, "ZOMFG, RUN FOR THE HILLS!! EVACUATE JAPAN NOW!1!! I LIVE IN WITCHITA, BUT WHERE ARE MY IODINE TABLETS!!11!" then I think you're overreacting.

You are aware that Chernobyl released thousands of times more radiation than Fukushima has to date, correct? And that radiation in Tokyo, the largest population center in Japan (and the world, for that matter), is just slightly above normal background levels?


What she/he said.
 
2011-04-11 11:30:03 PM  
Don't worry, the fark experts put anybody who voiced concern on their dreaded ignore lists weeks ago.
 
2011-04-11 11:30:13 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: "Check it out. Fukushima, 'Level 7,' look like Chernobyl, act like Chernobyl, not Chernobyl. Radioactive cloud, freaky-looking fish. Evacuated area, sho'. Not Chernobyl. You know Three Mile Island, 'Level 5.' Slow, yes. Chernobyl, maybe. Radioactive gas. But it charmed the pants off Jimmy Carter and didn't kill anybody. That ain't Chernobyl."


I laughed entirely too hard at this...Bravo!

/Newsletter, etc
 
2011-04-11 11:30:55 PM  

DORMAMU: HoboSong: texdent: People who could help if they weren't fictional:
Superman
Batman
Reed Richards
Firestorm
Tony Stark
Bruce Banner
Hank Pym
Hank McCoy
Goku making a wish on the Dragonballs
Sailor Moon with the Silver Crystal
T'challa


Wow. How about Jesus? Dont see him on your list

That is the kicker... Many archeologists have found evidence that a man did exist during that time frame that could be jesus (real name or not).

Whether he us the sin of god and performed those miracles is a theological discussion. But the fact remains, there is evidence he existed.

Remember, the city of troy was thought a myth until it was discovered....


So you're saying there is still hope we might find the real Sailor Moon?
 
2011-04-11 11:30:59 PM  

ThunderPelvis: You are aware that Chernobyl released thousands of times more radiation than Fukushima has to date, correct?


Again, in case you missed it the first time:

"NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCO" Link (new window)
 
2011-04-11 11:31:08 PM  

blameitonchemo: I've really enjoyed how usually the same people who think we should invade everyone and thrust ourselves into the role of World Police don't think we should give a shiat when something like this happens.


Well, I certainly hope you're not implying that I'm in favor of military invasions or the US being World Police, as I am not.

Meanwhile, what I complain about is all the hysteria that somehow Japan is ruined, people will abandon Tokyo and all the rest of the nonsense.
 
2011-04-11 11:31:24 PM  

stillfeelgone: Why does no one ever mention the radioactive unit BEQ (banana equivalent units)?

Seriously, look it up.


Ha ha! Good try.

Everyone on Fark knows there's no such thing.

If there was something like that someone would've posted it here at some point in the last month. There've been lots of articles about radiation between March 11th and now, don't you think someone would've taken the time to illuminate us about your "BEQs" or "BEUs" or whatever?
 
2011-04-11 11:31:30 PM  
They need to get someone in there who knows what the fark he's doing.

/I USED to think the Japanese were some smart cookies. Or maybe this is just the corporate method of doing business (cut corners and ignore safety regulations, unless they catch you at it).
 
2011-04-11 11:31:37 PM  
Marine1 2011-04-11 11:18:25 PM
Try not to conceive & etc, its not fair to the kids

Honest question, where'd you find that picture? And what's with that kid?
=================================================================
GIS Chernobyl at Pee buct.
Birth defects, that was one of the more safe ones.
For the same reason Thalidomide is banned, radiation is to be avoided, even in small doses.
When the detectors measure only small amounts, individual particles can still be ingested, here and there like a death lotto.
When is fertility, or there is a fetus, that pic can be the results.
We have people in govt trying to say its ok, but most people know the truth.
What are we to do? evac Earth? quit reproducing?
4500 tons are on fire at 6 Atomic Piles, potentially, 15-20 others are leaking too,
if they too are burning, that may involve 30,000 tons of Atomic fuel.
no one wants to think about next quakes near Tokyo.

GOOD BYE ATOMIC PILES
the world will be thrown into revolt if they are not shutdown.



============================================================
MrSteve007 2011-04-11 11:13:23 PM
News flash from TEPCO

"NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCO"
============================================
It exceeded that on the first day...
we will hear of this later when shock has faded to despair.
 
2011-04-11 11:31:37 PM  

TheCableGuy: "hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels. "

Interesting choice to point out that a terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels but not add another sentence to clarify what a becquerel is.


A becquerel is 1000 millibequerels, of course :D
 
2011-04-11 11:31:52 PM  

Indubitably: JSTACAT: Lets face it folks, mankind can not put the gennie back into the bottle.
Atomic Piles all over the world will be shutdown by the time this is over in 5 yrs.
And, its Just as true now as when i said it 4 wks ago, there was utter failure of containment s, and it has not even been mitigated.
they have not told us the rest of the story yet. It is grim.

Moving it up to 7 means that the whole truth can slowly come out. It will allow the media to slow down the info to a stream of
"we're working on it" bits.

Anyone who knows anything about Atomic Piles can tell you its out of control, at least 6 have meltdown in spent ponds, and/ or The actual Piles.
What we are not hearing about is the condition of 15 - 20 adjacent Atomic Piles.
latest quakes are near Tokyo..under land.

My estimate still stands, Tokyo evacuated, most of N. Japan uninhabitable. Emigration...
Ocean fisheries severely impacted, mostly from the perception radiation can harm if ingested.

Remember kids, when faced with long term fallout, a very sparse diet and mineral supps can help you survive longer, with less damage.
Try not to conceive & etc, its not fair to the kids

Umm,

Yer poetry needs work, friend. While possible, it lacks probable, and needs presentable.

Ouchies.

Keep working, J.

Best minus glowies.

I still have sad glowies.

Boo.

;(


He's a terrible prophet. He predicted riots and doom for America in January over the DA,DT repeal. When he actually starts saying 'everything will probably be alright, honestly,' THEN I'll start worrying.
 
2011-04-11 11:31:54 PM  

cyclonite: stillfeelgone: Why does no one ever mention the radioactive unit BEQ (banana equivalent units)?

Seriously, look it up.

Because
1, everyone else has seen the xkcd,
2, ripping the joke and rehashing it is obvious to everyone, and
3, you're a dick.

Besides,Bananas are radioactive-But they aren't a good way to explain radiation exposure

/i hope my list formatting pisses someone off


I've never seen the xkcd. So, no comment to 2 and 3.
 
2011-04-11 11:32:58 PM  

GroverCleveland: did anyone mention how dangerous coal is yet?


Coal is a diamond precursor which is known to cause marriage.

Yeah, coal is extremely dangerous
 
2011-04-11 11:33:10 PM  
Does anyone else feel like information is getting to us really slow? Like we're about 4 or 5 days behind knowing just how bad its gotten?
 
2011-04-11 11:33:31 PM  

MrSteve007: ThunderPelvis: You are aware that Chernobyl released thousands of times more radiation than Fukushima has to date, correct?

Again, in case you missed it the first time:

"NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCO" Link (new window)


That link doesn't lead to an article. Please provide another source.
 
2011-04-11 11:34:04 PM  

MrSteve007: ThunderPelvis: You are aware that Chernobyl released thousands of times more radiation than Fukushima has to date, correct?

Again, in case you missed it the first time:

"NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCO" Link (new window)


What did I just finish telling you about taking mainstream news source headlines about scientific matters as accurate and containing necessary contextual information? Especially about nuclear power.
 
2011-04-11 11:34:12 PM  

itazurakko: blameitonchemo: I've really enjoyed how usually the same people who think we should invade everyone and thrust ourselves into the role of World Police don't think we should give a shiat when something like this happens.

Well, I certainly hope you're not implying that I'm in favor of military invasions or the US being World Police, as I am not.

Meanwhile, what I complain about is all the hysteria that somehow Japan is ruined, people will abandon Tokyo and all the rest of the nonsense.


No, of course not because I don't know you. I just quoted you and the guy you quoted simply as an example of a lot of what I've been hearing from people. For the most part, the same people who say "So? That's Japan. We're Murrica!" are the same ones who think we should babysit everyone.
 
2011-04-11 11:34:13 PM  
The average coal plant releases 100X more radiation annually than a nuke plant. (new window)

I would venture to guess that means "non melting down" nuke plant.
 
2011-04-11 11:34:15 PM  
This is a terabecquerel:

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Should have prototyped the goddamn blue lady.
 
2011-04-11 11:34:42 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Anybody else get the feeling that the chart only goes to 7 because the nuke agencies don't want to admit there's an 8, 9, and 10?


Dude...it goes to 11:

uploads.neatorama.com
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.

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