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2011-04-11 10:52:33 PM  
Girlfriend's family moved her out to Philippines, but they're cheap.... so they moved back a week later.

FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK FARK

/ Oh, and apparently there have been three major aftershocks/preshocks this week. Not that makes this worse or anything.
 
2011-04-11 10:52:34 PM  
Cue the endless fearmongering over a number being changed...
 
2011-04-11 10:52:35 PM  
FTFA
Level 7 has formerly only been applied to the Chernobyl accident in the former Soviet Union in 1986 when hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels.

Oh, well I'm glad they cleared that up. I had no idea what the prefix on a becquerel was.. totally cleared that up. Good thing that becquerel is such a common word that it didn't need a definition as well.
 
2011-04-11 10:52:45 PM  

Have You Met Miss Jones: Hot, like Cesium.


Putin does not have stalkers. Rather, they are people who mistakenly believe they could go under Bad Vlad's radar... a fatal assumption.
 
2011-04-11 10:52:45 PM  
Most of that "wide area" is the pacific ocean so meh.
 
rka
2011-04-11 10:52:54 PM  
Fear mongers.
 
2011-04-11 10:53:16 PM  
did anyone mention how dangerous coal is yet?
 
2011-04-11 10:53:25 PM  

TheCableGuy: "hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels. "

Interesting choice to point out that a terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels but not add another sentence to clarify what a becquerel is.


It is roughly one trillionth of a terabecquerel
 
2011-04-11 10:54:06 PM  
Meanwhile, while everyone is focusing on this in mixed horror/glee, people are dying up and down the north coast from cold, lack of food, lack of fuel. But this is admittedly more sexy.
 
2011-04-11 10:54:12 PM  
Finally a use for weeabos.

"Prove you love Japan, scrub down that reactor! Protective equipment - where's your Samurai Spirit? If you start feeling hot - make *tic* sounds."
 
2011-04-11 10:54:27 PM  
I knew this would get resubmitted and green-lit. It's why I don't even bother 99% of the time.
 
2011-04-11 10:54:30 PM  

Truthiness: I forget where I read it (maybe the Times?), but I'm pretty sure this revised rating is based on the levels of radiation immediately following the main earthquake, not any new emissions. Still sucks, but not much more to be done about it.


It's kind of a formality for posterity, nothing changes due to a revising. It's not entirely clear what release(s) led to the revision. My guess would be a spent fuel pool fire early on, followed by the crack in the trench to the ocean... that might actually be the bulk of it.
 
2011-04-11 10:54:33 PM  
For another comparison, level 5, which is what Fukushima was at previously, is what Three Mile Island was.


So the timeline of events, roughly:

1. It's not bad, we're putting the fire out, don't worry
2. Why don't we quietly evacuate the surrounding area while telling people it's not a big deal
3. Small radioactive cloud heading for the U.S., but not enough to worry about
4. Radioactive water IS leaking into the ocean, but it'll dilute, so don't worry
5. OHMYGODCHERNOBYL
 
2011-04-11 10:55:00 PM  
I clearly underestimated the amount of decay heat possible, and the length of time it could potentially persist without consistent coolant flow (alternatively, how long a reactor needs to be actively cooled before it can be safely "left alone").

I don't think I'm the only one.
 
2011-04-11 10:55:04 PM  
Earthquake, tsunami, fallout.

First, get everyone out of the zone and into a shelter.

Then, solar now, solar tomorrow, solar forever.
 
2011-04-11 10:55:17 PM  
Terabecquerels weren't nearly as cool as Archaeopteryxes.
 
2011-04-11 10:55:58 PM  

Jaycatt: FTA: "The agency believes the cumulative amount from the Fukushima plant is less than that from Chernobyl."

So that's some good news, right?


At least until they come out with news that says the exact opposite.
 
2011-04-11 10:56:06 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: For another comparison, level 5, which is what Fukushima was at previously, is what Three Mile Island was.


So the timeline of events, roughly:

1. It's not bad, we're putting the fire out, don't worry
2. Why don't we quietly evacuate the surrounding area while telling people it's not a big deal
3. Small radioactive cloud heading for the U.S., but not enough to worry about
4. Radioactive water IS leaking into the ocean, but it'll dilute, so don't worry
5. OHMYGODCHERNOBYL


It really isn't anything to worry about. It will hit California first. That's what they're there for.
 
2011-04-11 10:56:08 PM  
Oh, it's not that bad. Radiation is actually good for living organisms.
 
2011-04-11 10:57:10 PM  
Sho ga nai, friends. Sho ga nai.
 
2011-04-11 10:57:13 PM  
Valarius: Earthquake, tsunami, fallout.

First, get everyone out of the zone and into a shelter.

Then, solar now, solar tomorrow, solar forever.


And BREED less!!
 
2011-04-11 10:57:25 PM  

Nem Wan: To be fair, Chernobyl was a level 7 because it doesn't go any higher.



It's gone from bad to worse, to worst.

I can hardly wait for "worster".


cdn2.holytaco.com


/We're gonna' need a bigger scale
 
2011-04-11 10:57:38 PM  
Should I not have been drinking iodine and vodka tonight?

/Mrs Servo received a heart-wrenching email tonight from a former grad student living in Sendai
//need more vodak
///something in my eye
 
2011-04-11 10:57:40 PM  

TheCableGuy: "hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels. "

Interesting choice to point out that a terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels but not add another sentence to clarify what a becquerel is.


It's either serious or awesome.
 
2011-04-11 10:57:47 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Can someone explain to me how come we're so helpless against a bit of water? We don't seem to have the technology to control a 40 year old reactor? (Such old technology after all! Surely things have improved a billion, nay, a trillion times since?)
But we'll colonize Mars.
Got it.
/This is how Space Nutters actually think
//Can't be that reality is very complex and our technology very, very limited
///Making smaller and smaller transistors is not quite the same as a warp drive, eh loons?


A for-profit enterprise driven by this quarter's numbers and vigorously committed to profitable incompetence is not the same as mankind devoting its best minds to a seemingly impossible task solely for the sake of learning from the challenges that task offers.

/Wish I believed that you knew that.
 
2011-04-11 10:57:52 PM  
Is it okay for me to biatchslap all of the people who trolled these threads by calling people fearmongers constantly yet?
 
2011-04-11 10:57:56 PM  

blameitonchemo: Good thing this could NEVER turn into something as bad as Chernobyl and all those people concerned are just ignorant, fear-mongering idiots, right?

Right?


Pretty much, yeah. An agency decided to revise the FUBAR rating because it's a serious situation, to me something 'bad as chernobyl' would have to actually be killing people. Nice and dramatic though isn't it.
 
2011-04-11 10:58:11 PM  
I said this on day farking one. Well to clarify, I said it'd be worse than Chernobyl. Not quite, but level 7 is still bad enough.
 
2011-04-11 10:58:12 PM  
One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels.

I think I had that one.

now, how many becquerels in a curie?
 
2011-04-11 10:58:14 PM  
TheDirtyNacho,
It's kind of a formality for posterity, nothing changes due to a revising. It's not entirely clear what release(s) led to the revision. My guess would be a spent fuel pool fire early on, followed by the crack in the trench to the ocean... that might actually be the bulk of it.


I heard on the news they want to evict those whom won't leave and keep out the wanderers. Think of it as an official reclassification for legal purposes.

Also maybe keep 'hot' plasma tv's out of the cililian market per real concerns from Chernobyl, although Japan is not the USSR.
 
2011-04-11 10:58:20 PM  
So, now it will be: You never go full Fukushima.
 
2011-04-11 10:58:23 PM  
Anyone want to dig up the original Fukashima thread from a few weeks ago so we can mark down who all the actual idiots? Shouldn't be too hard. You should be able to find quite a few of them by doing an CTRL+F of "expert" or "experience".
 
2011-04-11 10:58:25 PM  
Sweet...I haven't heard anything about this in a few weeks. It's about time this went full-shiat-show.

blogs.sfweekly.com
 
2011-04-11 10:58:27 PM  
I have a bad feeling about this.
 
2011-04-11 10:58:41 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: For another comparison, level 5, which is what Fukushima was at previously, is what Three Mile Island was.


So the timeline of events, roughly:

1. It's not bad, we're putting the fire out, don't worry
2. Why don't we quietly evacuate the surrounding area while telling people it's not a big deal
3. Small radioactive cloud heading for the U.S., but not enough to worry about
4. Radioactive water IS leaking into the ocean, but it'll dilute, so don't worry
5. OHMYGODCHERNOBYL


It's a 7, but it's not a Chernobyl by orders of magnitude. As others have pointed out, Chernobyl went off the charts.
 
2011-04-11 10:59:31 PM  

qwertypoo: blameitonchemo: Good thing this could NEVER turn into something as bad as Chernobyl and all those people concerned are just ignorant, fear-mongering idiots, right?

Right?

Pretty much, yeah. An agency decided to revise the FUBAR rating because it's a serious situation, to me something 'bad as chernobyl' would have to actually be killing people. Nice and dramatic though isn't it.


Dear Genius,

It is killing people.

Love, Facts
 
2011-04-11 10:59:32 PM  
"... when hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels"

Well thank you, that's clears everything right up. You sir, are a journalist of the highest caliber.
 
2011-04-11 10:59:34 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Truthiness: I forget where I read it (maybe the Times?), but I'm pretty sure this revised rating is based on the levels of radiation immediately following the main earthquake, not any new emissions. Still sucks, but not much more to be done about it.

It's kind of a formality for posterity, nothing changes due to a revising. It's not entirely clear what release(s) led to the revision. My guess would be a spent fuel pool fire early on, followed by the crack in the trench to the ocean... that might actually be the bulk of it.


Looks like it, anyway. There's not a new incident report or anything of the sort. They're revising what they think the rating was on the "how bad the incident was" scale.

But I'm sure Godzilla is also right around the corner, and Tokyo is minutes away from completely melting.

/radiation is sscccaarrryyyyyyy
//boo!
 
2011-04-11 10:59:37 PM  

Marine1: shower_in_my_socks: For another comparison, level 5, which is what Fukushima was at previously, is what Three Mile Island was.


So the timeline of events, roughly:

1. It's not bad, we're putting the fire out, don't worry
2. Why don't we quietly evacuate the surrounding area while telling people it's not a big deal
3. Small radioactive cloud heading for the U.S., but not enough to worry about
4. Radioactive water IS leaking into the ocean, but it'll dilute, so don't worry
5. OHMYGODCHERNOBYL

It really isn't anything to worry about. It will hit California first. That's what they're there for.


I've thought Californians were already radioactive mutants half the time, what with the sun and everything

/see Schwarzenegger
 
2011-04-11 11:00:00 PM  
I enjoy beef terabecquerels from time to time, but they give me heartburn something fierce.
 
2011-04-11 11:00:16 PM  
I suppose we probably could have pitched and helped them instead of worrying about the future price of playstations.....

aaaaaaaaa...who am I kidding, that would've never happened.
 
2011-04-11 11:00:25 PM  

T-Servo: Should I not have been drinking iodine and vodka tonight?

/Mrs Servo received a heart-wrenching email tonight from a former grad student living in Sendai
//need more vodak
///something in my eye


Is there any way we can help?
 
2011-04-11 11:00:33 PM  
I haven't checked in on this in a while. Has the main containment area been breached? If not, how are these major radioactive levels getting out?
 
2011-04-11 11:00:48 PM  

MrSteve007: Don't worry, fark nuclear experts said this is no where near as bad as Chernobyl . . .


So did the article d-bag.
 
2011-04-11 11:00:53 PM  
Uhm, so are they going to sarcophagus those things or what?
 
2011-04-11 11:00:57 PM  

Pro Zack: One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels.

I think I had that one.

now, how many becquerels in a curie?


1 Ci = 37 GBq
 
2011-04-11 11:01:05 PM  
What a "terabecquerel" may look like:

www.myclassiclyrics.com
 
2011-04-11 11:01:09 PM  

blameitonchemo: Good thing this could NEVER turn into something as bad as Chernobyl and all those people concerned are just ignorant, fear-mongering idiots, right?

Right?


Just because Gerald Henderson and Kobe Bryant are both NBA players hardly makes them the same.
 
2011-04-11 11:01:32 PM  
blessed be, japan
 
2011-04-11 11:01:46 PM  
I definitely picked the wrong week to quit sniffing becquerels
 
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