Boobies!

At least clean up the place. I keep hearing about clean coal but those mines always look filthy to me.

Huh, I was watching the show but I didn't realize it was brand new.

I kept thinking to myself, "Why don't they just get another generator and run the continuous miner on that one?"

I wonder why they didn't do a show about mountain top removal?

My friend the audiologist did his internship in West Virginia, and treated a lot of miners. One situation he frequently saw was hearing loss caused by the machinery they used to shore up the ceiling of the mine shafts. The catch was, you had to be able to hear the machine to know if it was working correctly, so if they wore the proper ear protection to prevent the hearing loss, they risked having the shaft collapse and kill them.

Miners deserve the same thanks and respect normally reserved only for soldiers and firemen.

MSHA regs are a convoluted mess. The only ones worse are HazMat regs. The HazMat table can burn in hell.

Ha-*cough*-ha!

I remember watching one of those Gold Mining shows with the BF once. He's never gone mining for anything before but as a blue collar worker he's used many similar tools and apparatuses that these kinds of jobs call for and about halfway through this episode he groans and goes on how they apparently were using some tool backwards. I couldn't tell so I ignored it. For the rest of the episode they were b*tching about how they hadn't been getting any results so they called in someone from another operation and the first thing out of his mouth is "You got everything backwards."

Most of the time, if there isn't an on-site regulator or working overseer, I would expect that we have way more fatalities than we usually see in these industries. Seems like they let any moron go down a hole and dig.

IamKaiserSoze!!!: That show is terrifying to watch.

I worked a lot of shiaty, dangerous jobs around Detroit when I was growing up, but that show illustrates how good I had it.

No, you had it worse

If you think the mine is so unsafe, don't work there.

stuhayes2010: I wonder why they didn't do a show about mountain top removal?

Don't worry, it's 'clean' mountain top removal.

The Irresponsible Captain: It takes this for the MSHA to do their job? Buncha fat farks on the couch I guess.

Anytime inspectors or auditors drop in they go through retraining their workers on the spot and telling them precisely how to behave while the inspectors are there. I work in the pharmaceutical industry and have heard stories of people seeing FDA inspectors approach their building for a surprise visit and instructing people to hide malfunctioning equipment or stop using it as if it wasn't even being used for a while (of course inspectors would see recent use) or that they'd finally get around to getting those dust bunnies out from behind processors (not computers, the kind that can mix chemicals that you're intended to inject in your bloodstream).

Of course, this is usually done with some of the sub sub contractors. The actual corporate factories are effing spotless and run with little to no problems.

FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

Stop watching when we do things!

Yours in Christ,
Industry

ttintagel:
Miners deserve the same thanks and respect normally reserved only for soldiers and firemen.

That, or at least they're an excellent tool for getting kids to do their homework. "Do you know who else never thought he'd need algebra?"

I should tip OSHA off to a commercial for a furniture store showing off their warehouse.

It's not safe to raise/lower a forklift while it is moving forwards (or backwards) and yet that's exactly what can be seen in the commercial.

Is a reality show about coal mining supposed to make us forget how toxic burning coal is for our environment?

Ax Men is a way better show

PghThermal: FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

I was once cited for using a tool that was too small for the job also. She never went out with me again.

MrSteve007: Don't worry, it's 'clean' mountain top removal.

Where the hell was that? Looks like an airport terminal or something.

Orgasmatron138: MSHA regs are a convoluted mess. The only ones worse are HazMat regs. The HazMat table can burn in hell.

My question is who wants them that way? Are you telling me that the big coal billionaires don't have enough sway to get the regulations written legibly and logically? Especially since many of the MSHA regulators end up working for them eventually.

Happy Hours: I should tip OSHA off to a commercial for a furniture store showing off their warehouse.

It's not safe to raise/lower a forklift while it is moving forwards (or backwards) and yet that's exactly what can be seen in the commercial.

I bet you would have reported Jews hiding in your neighbors attic to the Gestapo as well.

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Where the hell was that? Looks like an airport terminal or something.

that's a DC metro (subway) station.

JoeJitsu: PghThermal: FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

I was once cited for using a tool that was too small for the job also. She never went out with me again.

Adequately, and safely are very different things

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: MrSteve007: Don't worry, it's 'clean' mountain top removal.

Where the hell was that? Looks like an airport terminal or something.

That's our beloved DC Metro.



/eerie honeycomb pattern is... damn cool.

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: MrSteve007: Don't worry, it's 'clean' mountain top removal.

Where the hell was that? Looks like an airport terminal or something.

DC subway station. Looks like the lower-level says it's Red Line to Vienna, but it's Orange that goes there not Red. Can't quite read the sign for the upper-level line.

Surprised nobody else caught that.

Cobalt Chief Executive Mike Crowder says some good can come of the violations

JoeJitsu: PghThermal: FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

I was once cited for using a tool that was too small for the job also. She never went out with me again.

I was once called a tool.

PghThermal: FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

The reg's there because if the tool is not long enough, the guy using it will be under the rock he's trying to scale off. Good way to get squished.

stuhayes2010: I wonder why they didn't do a show about mountain top removal?

Because that is exactly what it will look like ten years from now.

babysealclubber: stuhayes2010: I wonder why they didn't do a show about mountain top removal?

Because that is exactly what it will look like ten years from now.

Seriously, dig up pictures of any sort of development and let me know the difference. B-b-b-but this looks worse!

If only their were engineers and scientists working on both the regulatory and the industry sides in mining.

BillSmith70: If you think the mine is so unsafe, don't work there.

Exactly. Who needs safety regulations? The magic invisible hand of the free market will take care of everything.

Skyrmion: BillSmith70: If you think the mine is so unsafe, don't work there.

Exactly. Who needs safety regulations? The magic invisible hand of the free market will take care of everything.

Exactly. If the place was so unsafe, it would go out of business. Only a fool would work at a place that kills people.

Balrog: PghThermal: FTFA
In the debut, a miner used the wrong tool -- a 12-inch pick -- to pull down loose roof rock. The Mine Safety and Health Administration says it was too small for the job.


Actually, if it pulled down the loose rock it was adequate for the job if not the regs.

The reg's there because if the tool is not long enough, the guy using it will be under the rock he's trying to scale off. Good way to get squished.

If you watched, though. The worker chose to do what he did, and just used what he had handy. It's not like they handed him the wrong pick and said "Here, go do this."

The funny thing is that it was another guy who almost got squished because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Please... There's nothing "reality" about this, or any other "reality" based show.

Everything you saw was done that way for a reason; to make the show.

The part where they were using everything backwards? --On purpose, to create the conflict, so that they could have the other people come in at the last moment and say, "dude, you got it all backwards".

So that you, the viewer could go, "ohhhhh.... BURN!!!!"

/Most importantly, so that they can sell the ads.

Giltric:

I would imagine either the producers or the landowner "encouraged" the hiring of the new guy to go in and tell them what they were doing wrong, kind of like when they added Fred to Gold Rush:Alaska.

It was hilarious though when he said the reason the night shift sucks is because the generator is too small and if they had just bought what they really needed they wouldn't have any problems. They were about to fire the operator as if he was doing something wrong.

Beer Drinking Masturbator: Please... There's nothing "reality" about this, or any other "reality" based show.

Everything you saw was done that way for a reason; to make the show.

The part where they were using everything backwards? --On purpose, to create the conflict, so that they could have the other people come in at the last moment and say, "dude, you got it all backwards".

So that you, the viewer could go, "ohhhhh.... BURN!!!!"

/Most importantly, so that they can sell the ads.

You're very mistaken in this case. The guys on the gold show didn't make much at all from the producers. They definitely did not intentionally set up machinery wrong to create drama. Hell, the guy that left the show would have sold them down the river if they were doing that shiat.

Don't confuse how they edit the show with how they are running their operation. Those guys are just morons.

SharkTrager: Beer Drinking Masturbator: Please... There's nothing "reality" about this, or any other "reality" based show.

Everything you saw was done that way for a reason; to make the show.

The part where they were using everything backwards? --On purpose, to create the conflict, so that they could have the other people come in at the last moment and say, "dude, you got it all backwards".

So that you, the viewer could go, "ohhhhh.... BURN!!!!"

/Most importantly, so that they can sell the ads.

You're very mistaken in this case. The guys on the gold show didn't make much at all from the producers. They definitely did not intentionally set up machinery wrong to create drama. Hell, the guy that left the show would have sold them down the river if they were doing that shiat.

Don't confuse how they edit the show with how they are running their operation. Those guys are just morons.

It's the PRODUCERS that are making the money!!! - By selling the show to whatever channel will broadcast it... So the CHANNEL has something to sell to the ADVERTISERS.

Hell no, the people actually ON the show don't make jack schidt. That's how and why they make so many "reality" based shows.

SharkTrager: Beer Drinking Masturbator: Please... There's nothing "reality" about this, or any other "reality" based show.

Everything you saw was done that way for a reason; to make the show.

The part where they were using everything backwards? --On purpose, to create the conflict, so that they could have the other people come in at the last moment and say, "dude, you got it all backwards".

So that you, the viewer could go, "ohhhhh.... BURN!!!!"

/Most importantly, so that they can sell the ads.

You're very mistaken in this case. The guys on the gold show didn't make much at all from the producers. They definitely did not intentionally set up machinery wrong to create drama. Hell, the guy that left the show would have sold them down the river if they were doing that shiat.

Don't confuse how they edit the show with how they are running their operation. Those guys are just morons.

WRONG.

If you don't have drama.. you don't have a show!

/sry, couldn't let that one slip

edmo: ttintagel: Miners deserve the same thanks and respect normally reserved only for soldiers and firemen.

Except those folks are worthless government workers right? I mean that's the theme this year no?

Only from the left. Kind of like the whole 'bootstrappy' meme.

hitlersbrain: Orgasmatron138: MSHA regs are a convoluted mess. The only ones worse are HazMat regs. The HazMat table can burn in hell.

My question is who wants them that way? Are you telling me that the big coal billionaires don't have enough sway to get the regulations written legibly and logically? Especially since many of the MSHA regulators end up working for them eventually.

I can tell you from experience that regulations are basically the governing body vs. companies that have to abide by them. There is a long, drawn out process that has to take place for regulation change that amounts to anything. Then they end up in court.

Example: The UN has been working since the early 90's on getting every country on the same page as far as labeling hazardous materials for transport. The US DOT just got around to implementing it this year. OSHA will do the same this summer.

All in all, though, it's better than no oversight. Reading case studies on companies that ignore safety regs is freaky as hell.