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(BusinessWeek)   That blowout preventer that failed and caused the BP disaster? Yeah, they forgot to do maintenance on it... for four years   (businessweek.com) divider line 89
    More: Followup, Deepwater Horizon, Transocean Ltd., Cameron International, Metairie, doi, software maintenance  
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2011-04-06 01:38:25 PM  
Of course, those pesky regulations were just in the way of good business, which is why the bush administration filled the enforcement office with cronies who spent their time doing blow and farking eachother instead of doing their jobs.
 
2011-04-06 01:49:10 PM  
Well it isn't as if the Transocean executives just received large bonuses for outstanding safety records.
 
2011-04-06 01:51:09 PM  
When I first heard about the BP thing I said people needed to be executed, I kind of softened on that stance, but you know what maybe that first impulse wasn't wrong.
 
2011-04-06 01:59:42 PM  
Well why bother doing maintenance on it. If there's a blowout, it won't do shiat anyway whether it's up to par or not.
 
2011-04-06 02:02:51 PM  
...that's a suin'?
 
2011-04-06 02:05:31 PM  

RminusQ: Well why bother doing maintenance on it. If there's a blowout, it won't do shiat anyway whether it's up to par or not.


The guy in the article said pretty much this. He said it didn't need maintenance and was operating as expected. It failed, badly. Ergo, it's not the safety net it's claimed to be.
 
2011-04-06 02:08:11 PM  

RminusQ: If there's a blowout, it won't do shiat anyway whether it's up to par or not.


From your link: Last night, Rachel Maddow did a long report about the BOEMRE's issuing of new deepwater drilling permits at a rapid rate even though they knew the conclusions in Det Norske Veritas' report on the Deepwater Horizon blowout preventer documenting the unreliability of these well control devices.

Is Ms. Maddow referring to this report?
 
2011-04-06 02:18:02 PM  
How the hell are these people not in jail? Has our criminal justice system EVER worked?
 
2011-04-06 02:18:16 PM  
Also in need of a blowout preventer:

www.nydailynews.com
 
2011-04-06 02:20:18 PM  

itazurakko: ...that's a suin'?


Yeah, too bad shiat loads of people who could be parties to that suit took the $5,000 settlement to waive all claims against BP. They could possibly sue someone other than BP, but that's assuming they didn't take a settlement from someone else.
 
2011-04-06 02:20:26 PM  
They found oil in the gulf of Mexico? This is a very exciting discovery.
 
2011-04-06 02:22:14 PM  

Excen: How the hell are these people not in jail? Has our criminal justice system EVER worked?


Depends on your definition of "works."

If it's "You can get away with just about anything provided you have enough money and political power," then yes, it's working GREAT.

/work
//work work work
///what a bizarre word
 
2011-04-06 02:22:17 PM  

Excen: How the hell are these people not in jail? Has our criminal justice system EVER worked?


yeah, but only against the poor or poorly connected...these folks know folks who know folks, so they get bonuses, not orange pajamas.
 
2011-04-06 02:23:50 PM  
Willful negligence of a costly yet necessary maintenance operation.

Winning.
 
2011-04-06 02:24:59 PM  

unyon: RminusQ: Well why bother doing maintenance on it. If there's a blowout, it won't do shiat anyway whether it's up to par or not.

The guy in the article said pretty much this. He said it didn't need maintenance and was operating as expected. It failed, badly. Ergo, it's not the safety net it's claimed to be.


do you wait until your car is malfunctioning to do maintenance on it? Or do you regularly rotate the tires, get oil changes, etc?
 
2011-04-06 02:25:43 PM  

Excen: How the hell are these people not in jail? Has our criminal justice system EVER worked?


I think that is a very good question.

I seriously also wonder why the Bush Justice Department was never at least brought to trial over "enhanced interrogation techniques." They totally said it was legal but that's not the way the law is supposed to work. Was it legal was it not, I don't know but I certainly think a court should hear it.
 
2011-04-06 02:26:23 PM  
You mean the free market didn't provide sufficient maintenance?
 
2011-04-06 02:28:17 PM  
"Slipped my mind. But I feel awful about it. I tell you what I'll do. I'll drill ten new wells and I'll install four blowout preventers on each well, and I'll make sure they get maintenance checkups every single week to make up for it."

"Wow! So...you'd really do that?"

"Will do." (new window)
 
2011-04-06 02:28:29 PM  
To be fair, the article does state that the maintenance would not have made a difference.
 
2011-04-06 02:28:42 PM  

keiverarrow: Of course, those pesky regulations were just in the way of good business, which is why the bush administration filled the enforcement office with cronies who spent their time doing blow and farking eachother instead of doing their jobs.


Regulations didn't cause this it was caused by over taxing the oil industry. Basically the liberal environmental types pushed hard to tax the oil industry the result of which was the gulf oil leak. Those screaming loudest about the environment are causing the most damage.
 
2011-04-06 02:31:28 PM  
When I'm trying to prevent a blowout I recite the multiplication tables in my head. Eight eights are sixty four. Nine nines are eighty one.

It usually doesn't work either.
 
2011-04-06 02:32:29 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: RminusQ: If there's a blowout, it won't do shiat anyway whether it's up to par or not.

From your link: Last night, Rachel Maddow did a long report about the BOEMRE's issuing of new deepwater drilling permits at a rapid rate even though they knew the conclusions in Det Norske Veritas' report on the Deepwater Horizon blowout preventer documenting the unreliability of these well control devices.

Is Ms. Maddow referring to this report?


That guy got gutted like a trout. What a freaking joke. It's like amateur hour at those hearings.
 
2011-04-06 02:32:52 PM  
I got divorced because I didn't maintain my blowjob preventer.
 
2011-04-06 02:33:54 PM  
So he said the blow out preventer didn't need maintenance and was working properly?

Yeah it worked great, no problems at all.
 
2011-04-06 02:34:41 PM  

Karma Chameleon: You mean the free market didn't provide sufficient maintenance?


and the government was ensuring proper inspections to protect us all?
 
2011-04-06 02:36:26 PM  
... And so begins the Fark libtard oil company bash fest. Pounded out on computers and posted on an internet made available by plastics and cheap energy brought to them by... oil companies.

D'oh!

/Oil companies suck! oh wait
 
2011-04-06 02:37:16 PM  

Lando Lincoln: "Slipped my mind. But I feel awful about it. I tell you what I'll do. I'll drill ten new wells and I'll install four blowout preventers on each well, and I'll make sure they get maintenance checkups every single week to make up for it."

"Wow! So...you'd really do that?"

"Will do." (new window)


Hey! It's been another 4 years and we've had another oil spill! I thought you were going to drill 10 new wells and keep them maintained!
 
2011-04-06 02:38:02 PM  

tufty: ... And so begins the Fark libtard oil company bash fest. Pounded out on computers and posted on an internet made available by plastics and cheap energy brought to them by... oil companies.


I'm Canadian and my computer is made from only the finest baby harp seal oil.
 
2011-04-06 02:40:15 PM  
Well sure, they missed their scheduled maintenance, but how many of you get your oil changed exactly every 3-months or 3,000 miles? Hmmm???
 
2011-04-06 02:41:32 PM  

BurnShrike:
I'm Canadian and my computer is made from only the finest baby harp seal oil.


Mine is made from bananananas (new window).
 
2011-04-06 02:42:15 PM  

Pockafrusta: Karma Chameleon: You mean the free market didn't provide sufficient maintenance?

and the government was ensuring proper inspections to protect us all?


If the government can't do its' job right then we should re-regulate.
 
2011-04-06 02:43:12 PM  

Ponzholio: Well sure, they missed their scheduled maintenance, but how many of you get your oil changed exactly every 3-months or 3,000 miles? Hmmm???


I may not change it exactly on time, but when I do at least I don't spill a few billion gallons. I'm not even an expert or anything.
 
2011-04-06 02:45:06 PM  

OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
I'm Canadian and my computer is made from only the finest baby harp seal oil.

Mine is made from bananananas (new window).


That's actually pretty cool. So now we can have real fruit products in plastic, shampoo, and soap, and artificial flavours in our food.

Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?
 
2011-04-06 02:46:16 PM  
So:

"The blowout preventer wasn't in need of an overhaul...If it's not found to be outside its operating tolerances, that piece of equipment stays in service."

And:

"A study of the blowout preventer, carried out by Det Norske Veritas, concluded that a lack of maintenance work wasn't a factor in the failure of the blades to crimp the pipe."


So the implication being created by the headline is just sensationalist bullshiat and this whole article is a nonstory.
 
2011-04-06 02:47:11 PM  

OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
I'm Canadian and my computer is made from only the finest baby harp seal oil.

Mine is made from bananananas (new window).


Do doooo do do be do
 
2011-04-06 02:50:35 PM  

tufty: ... And so begins the Fark libtard oil company bash fest. Pounded out on computers and posted on an internet made available by plastics and cheap energy brought to them by... oil companies.

D'oh!

/Oil companies suck! oh wait


Look--you are right--plastics make oil. Why should we be happy about their screw up, then? So we overlook the bad because someone does something good?

Let's overlook everything, then. Teachers are good, but unions are bad, right? So they are good under your logic, because we use teachers who generally do something good.

Rapists are bad, but if a rapist was once a firefighter, he is good.

Stop feeling the need to defend someone who farks up. No one is accusing you, you idiot. Sometimes you have the right to judge on more than the party line.
 
2011-04-06 02:50:39 PM  

BurnShrike: tufty: ... And so begins the Fark libtard oil company bash fest. Pounded out on computers and posted on an internet made available by plastics and cheap energy brought to them by... oil companies.


I'm Canadian and my computer is made from only the finest baby harp seal oil.


So long as the oil is beaten out of the seals, it's cool.
 
2011-04-06 02:53:01 PM  

BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?


1. Wire their jaws
2. Make them sing "Kissed By A Rose"
3. Videotape it
4. Post to YouTube
5. Profit
 
2011-04-06 02:53:56 PM  
Big Deal.. BP will get away with murder.
 
2011-04-06 02:56:35 PM  

Ponzholio: Well sure, they missed their scheduled maintenance, but how many of you get your oil changed exactly every 3-months or 3,000 miles? Hmmm???


Only the ones that don't read their vehicle manual.

/3k miles is the suggestion from the oil companies, not the manufacturer.
 
2011-04-06 02:56:37 PM  

OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?

1. Wire their jaws


Can't. Their heads have already been smashed in with a hakapik.
www.ens-newswire.com
 
2011-04-06 02:59:56 PM  

OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?

1. Wire their jaws
2. Make them sing "Kissed By A Rose"
3. Videotape it
4. Post to YouTube
5. Profit


My god, it's the next Keyboard Cat. . .
 
2011-04-06 03:04:26 PM  

BurnShrike: OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?

1. Wire their jaws


Can't. Their heads have already been smashed in with a hakapik.


Well your warranty is void since the seal is broken.
 
2011-04-06 03:05:17 PM  
they "forgot" to do maintenance on it

Maybe a little jail time would improve their memories.
 
2011-04-06 03:10:15 PM  

OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?

1. Wire their jaws
2. Make them sing "Kissed By A Rose"
3. Videotape it
4. Post to YouTube
5. Profit


So long as it's not that U2 song from the same movie...
 
2011-04-06 03:12:19 PM  

T-Luv: Yeah, too bad shiat loads of people who could be parties to that suit took the $5,000 settlement to waive all claims against BP. They could possibly sue someone other than BP, but that's assuming they didn't take a settlement from someone else.


The cynical part of me says that's exactly why companies delay, because they know that poor people desperately need payouts NOW (particularly when it's some sort of agriculture or fishing and the land/sea is unusable for some time, so their income stream is 100% gone) so they'll settle for small(er) amounts.

Kinda the reverse of nuisance lawsuits, I guess.
 
2011-04-06 03:12:20 PM  
Big Penis screws up.
 
2011-04-06 03:17:40 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: BurnShrike: OozoSoozo: BurnShrike:
Also, what am I supposed to do with all the dead baby seals now?

1. Wire their jaws


Can't. Their heads have already been smashed in with a hakapik.

Well your warranty is void since the seal is broken.


[snerk]

/aaaaand, that's a wrap
 
2011-04-06 03:25:59 PM  

HumanBeingsSuck: "A study of the blowout preventer, carried out by Det Norske Veritas, concluded that a lack of maintenance work wasn't a factor in the failure of the blades to crimp the pipe."


Well then obviously we should not criticize BP for not doing government-regulated maintenance on them. Only if a lack of maintenance had caused a problem should BP be criticized for not doing what it is supposed to do.
 
2011-04-06 03:32:57 PM  

Lando Lincoln: HumanBeingsSuck: "A study of the blowout preventer, carried out by Det Norske Veritas, concluded that a lack of maintenance work wasn't a factor in the failure of the blades to crimp the pipe."

Well then obviously we should not criticize BP for not doing government-regulated maintenance on them. Only if a lack of maintenance had caused a problem should BP be criticized for not doing what it is supposed to do.


You are aware that study was pretty much rendered worthless in the hearing on Monday because they guy that ran the computer model screwed up? And the guy hired to do it had never seen a BOP before he was hired for this job? Link (new window) Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see BP nailed, but the people in charge of this investigation are looking like a bunch of rank amateurs. I guess this is what happens when the Administration refuses to bring in people with actual oil and gas industry experience in the field to investigate a major oil catastrophe.
 
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