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2011-04-06 11:00:06 AM  

binkyman: The Great Gazoo: I'm all for vaccinating against life-threatening stuff, but for things like chicken pox or rotovirus, I just don't see the point.

Ever hear what chicken pox can do to you as an adult?


Yes. I contracted chickenpox at age 35. But studies are showing that the chickenpox vaccine that kids get at age 5 is wearing off at age 20. Now you have an adult who has never had chickenpox as a kid and is suddenly not immune to it anymore.
 
Ant
2011-04-06 11:00:27 AM  

Torchsong: Well, I would press up on Jenny McCarthy! Am I right people?


I hate her too much to find her attractive. All I see when I look at her are the bodies of dead children who had stupid and gullible parents.
 
2011-04-06 11:01:22 AM  

Betenoreus: FTA: Antoine says it's not that simple, "We had every intention on getting her [vaccinated] but due to the doctor shortage we were having problems getting a family doctor."

Welcome to socialized medicine, folks!


Antoine's comment is complete shiat. You can get vaccinations at any walk-in clinic, of which there are dozens in the area, and at the local health unit. Kid wasn't vaccinated because her parents are lazy and/or stupid.

And you're an idiot for commenting on something you know nothing about.
 
2011-04-06 11:01:33 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to vaccinate my children. There is absolutely zero evidence that vaccinations prevent any more illnesses than they cause. Out of ten vaccinated children, three will develop autism and two others will face significant developmental challenges. When my children are old enough, they can decide if vaccination is right for them. Parents should not gamble with their children's health.


This is the religion effect. All you need are dumb people and a spokesman.
 
2011-04-06 11:01:40 AM  

binkyman: The Great Gazoo: I'm all for vaccinating against life-threatening stuff, but for things like chicken pox or rotovirus, I just don't see the point.

Ever hear what chicken pox can do to you as an adult?


Most adults people acquire a superior chicken pox immunity through childhood exposure. I'm not sure actually getting chicken pox isn't better than getting a weakened version via vaccine.

A pissy first case is why I've had chicken pox twice.

\Also had measles and whooping cough...
\\And yes, I've been vaccinated.
 
2011-04-06 11:01:42 AM  


Darwinism in action: All the unvaccinated kids will get sick and die, and the vaccinated kids won't.

Only the fit will survive (where "fit" = "those whose parents aren't morons").



Yeah, except for kids too young to get certain vaccines who lose the benefits of herd immunity.
 
2011-04-06 11:02:01 AM  
First off, it's not Jenny McCarthy's job to parent your kids. And secondly:

Grass Hopper: notschy: Keep your non-vaccinated kids away from my kids, ya hippies!

If your kids are vaccinated, why are you worrying?


This.

/I wasn't vaccinated.
//My son is fully vaccinated.
 
2011-04-06 11:02:05 AM  
Facts don't matter to the J.McCarthy crowd, so appealing to their intelligence is pointless. I'm not sure if the crook who published the bogus research supporting the autism-vaccination link is being charged with child endangerment, but he should be. And the "I can't get my kid vaccinated because of Socialized Medicine" is of course likewise bogus.
 
2011-04-06 11:02:38 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to vaccinate my children. There is absolutely zero evidence that vaccinations prevent any more illnesses than they cause. Out of ten vaccinated children, three will develop autism and two others will face significant developmental challenges. When my children are old enough, they can decide if vaccination is right for them. Parents should not gamble with their children's health.


t0.gstatic.com
 
2011-04-06 11:02:49 AM  

ptelg: Station 4. Blood and urine samples *If appropriate IDK if they do this for school physicals*


For what purpose, exactly?
 
Ant
2011-04-06 11:03:30 AM  

bollocks28: notschy: Keep your non-vaccinated kids away from my kids, ya hippies!

If their vaccines are so good, what do they have to worry about?

/not a dirty hippy
//believe in vaccination


Google "herd immunity"
 
2011-04-06 11:04:11 AM  

Ant: spentmiles: When my children are old enough dead from whooping cough, and have infected several other people, they can decide if vaccination is right for them.

FTFY


If your children are school-age, whooping cough is extremely rarely fatal. It's only a legitimate threat to life in infants.

It will make you wish you were dead for about 6 weeks, though.
 
2011-04-06 11:04:44 AM  

Grass Hopper: spentmiles: I refuse to vaccinate my children. There is absolutely zero evidence that vaccinations prevent any more illnesses than they cause. Out of ten vaccinated children, three will develop autism and two others will face significant developmental challenges. When my children are old enough, they can decide if vaccination is right for them. Parents should not gamble with their children's health.

2/10 - went overboard on the DERP there


...and yet, it still got quite a few derp de derp trolls responding.

Obvious troll is obvious...but not to all.
 
2011-04-06 11:04:51 AM  

BunkoSquad: Herd immunity sucks. The world would be so much better if there was a tangible, immediate link between a parent's stupidity and their kid's death.


Breaking News: 50% of the world's population suddenly unable to reproduce!
 
2011-04-06 11:05:18 AM  

Ant: Torchsong: Well, I would press up on Jenny McCarthy! Am I right people?

I hate her too much to find her attractive. All I see when I look at her are the bodies of dead children who had stupid and gullible parents.


I think that it is sad that there are people in our society that will take the raving word of a pornstar above the well reasoned and thought out word of a scientist

/Not that anything should be taken at face value, just that some people trust the stupid more than the smart
 
2011-04-06 11:05:31 AM  

Thorndyke Barnhard: Seriously though, wtf are they doing sending kids home in the middle of the day for this technicality? They could have at least let them finish out the day so they go home on the school bus - with the stupid letter.



They were warned this was going to happen, they did not get the vaccinations and still came to school.

FTFA: "Region of Waterloo Public Health says students were warned in September and reminded again in February. Now they must enforce a provincial mandate on immunization."
 
2011-04-06 11:05:47 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to vaccinate my children. There is absolutely zero evidence that vaccinations prevent any more illnesses than they cause. Out of ten vaccinated children, three will develop autism and two others will face significant developmental challenges. When my children are old enough, they can decide if vaccination is right for them. Parents should not gamble with their children's health.


7/10. You got quite a few bites.
 
2011-04-06 11:06:38 AM  
I am shocked that people are falling for spentmiles' troll. Engage your brains people. Not even the dumbest anti-vaxer would claim that fully half of all vaccinated children are disabled by it. This shouldn't even be close to Poe's Law territory.
 
2011-04-06 11:06:39 AM  
Jenny should have stuck to this sort of thing:

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Ant
2011-04-06 11:06:52 AM  

Loadmaster: notschy: Keep your non-vaccinated kids away from my kids, ya hippies!

Grass Hopper: If your kids are vaccinated, why are you worrying?

Darwinism in action: All the unvaccinated kids will get sick and die, and the vaccinated kids won't.

Only the fit will survive (where "fit" = "those whose parents aren't morons").


Again, please see "herd immunity" (new window)
 
2011-04-06 11:06:56 AM  
I refuse to respond directly to anyone attacking me, but I will defend myself.

An AMA study titled the "Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes-A review" clearly states, vaccinated children are more than twice as likely to contract autism from the vaccines, especially those vaccine batches that are not preserved using thimerosal.

So, you have to ask, if the health risk is so great, why does the liberal government want to force vaccinations on our children? There hasn't been a small pox outbreak in decades -- same for measles, mumps, rubella. Obviously vaccinations are outdated medicine, bent on protecting us from risks that don't even exist. Would you get vaccinated against scurvy? You probably would, but a person with half a brain would see the folly. I'm not even going to speculate what is truly in these serums, but I guarantee it's not just medicine. I was not vaccinated, and I'm fine. I worry that I can only see these truths because I was not polluted as an infant.
 
2011-04-06 11:07:49 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: Not even the dumbest anti-vaxer would claim that fully half of all vaccinated children are disabled by it.


Man, they wouldn't be anti-vaccinations if they weren't that dumb to begin with.
 
2011-04-06 11:09:37 AM  
Link (new window) Vaccines and autism: a new scientific review by leading pharmacological expert researcher

BTW - for everyone who did not actually read Wakefield's MMR study, and instead read only what the media SAID about the study, Wakefield observed that of the children he was asked to observe as a gastroenterologist, he noted the very high incident rate of inflammatory bowel disease in autistic children. Inflammatory bowel disorders are scientifically and causally linked in medical literature to onset of autism. MMR is both scientifically and causally linked in medical literature to incidents of inflammatory bowel. Wakefield suggested this is occasion for serious research to be undertaken to determine if MMR, by causing inflammatory bowel is thus the change-agent for causing the cascade of medical events that can lead to autism.

Medical and pharmacological researchers are beginning to dare to do this research. The above article suggests there is compelling reasons to doubt the safety of the MMR stick.

Wakefield himself is on record repeatedly stating there are commendable reasons for vaccines. He doubts the medical safety of combining many vaccines into one shot in young and undeveloped immune systems.
 
2011-04-06 11:10:34 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to respond directly to anyone attacking me, but I will defend myself.

An AMA study titled the "Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes-A review" clearly states, vaccinated children are more than twice as likely to contract autism from the vaccines, especially those vaccine batches that are not preserved using thimerosal.

So, you have to ask, if the health risk is so great, why does the liberal government want to force vaccinations on our children? There hasn't been a small pox outbreak in decades -- same for measles, mumps, rubella. Obviously vaccinations are outdated medicine, bent on protecting us from risks that don't even exist. Would you get vaccinated against scurvy? You probably would, but a person with half a brain would see the folly. I'm not even going to speculate what is truly in these serums, but I guarantee it's not just medicine. I was not vaccinated, and I'm fine. I worry that I can only see these truths because I was not polluted as an infant.


Bwahahahaha!!!

Good one!
...but you really jumped the shark on the 'scurvy' thing...
 
2011-04-06 11:10:47 AM  

Betenoreus: Horseshiat. Go to a walk-in clinic you douchetard.

Right, like I'm going to trust some walk-in clinic for my kids rickets vaccine. May as well go to a drive-thru vaccination.


And right here, kids, is where we have to ask ourselves the question: Troll or retard?
 
2011-04-06 11:11:38 AM  

Betenoreus: Horseshiat. Go to a walk-in clinic you douchetard.

Right, like I'm going to trust some walk-in clinic for my kids rickets vaccine. May as well go to a drive-thru vaccination.


You blew it with the rickets vaccine. Rickets is caused by lack of vitamin D.

3/10 troll points. You went too high on the autism and developmental delay numbers.
 
Ant
2011-04-06 11:11:43 AM  

spentmiles: I worry that I can only see these truths because I was not polluted as an infant.


It's mind control!!!!
 
2011-04-06 11:11:45 AM  

Ant: Torchsong: Well, I would press up on Jenny McCarthy! Am I right people?

I hate her too much to find her attractive. All I see when I look at her are the bodies of dead children who had stupid and gullible parents.


Yeah, that'll make the ol' hambone lose its salt. :)

I always kind of lumped her in the "Amazingly hot but please...no talking" category.
 
2011-04-06 11:12:06 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to respond directly to anyone attacking me, but I will defend myself.

An AMA study titled the "Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes-A review" clearly states, vaccinated children are more than twice as likely to contract autism from the vaccines, especially those vaccine batches that are not preserved using thimerosal.

So, you have to ask, if the health risk is so great, why does the liberal government want to force vaccinations on our children? There hasn't been a small pox outbreak in decades -- same for measles, mumps, rubella. Obviously vaccinations are outdated medicine, bent on protecting us from risks that don't even exist. Would you get vaccinated against scurvy? You probably would, but a person with half a brain would see the folly. I'm not even going to speculate what is truly in these serums, but I guarantee it's not just medicine. I was not vaccinated, and I'm fine. I worry that I can only see these truths because I was not polluted as an infant.


Overplayed your hand.
 
2011-04-06 11:13:36 AM  

Voiceofreason01: Thorndyke Barnhard: Seriously though, wtf are they doing sending kids home in the middle of the day for this technicality? They could have at least let them finish out the day so they go home on the school bus - with the stupid letter.


They were warned this was going to happen, they did not get the vaccinations and still came to school.

FTFA: "Region of Waterloo Public Health says students were warned in September and reminded again in February. Now they must enforce a provincial mandate on immunization."


Yes and I agree with the enforcement of the suspension. This doesn't mean they have to begin the suspension in the middle of the day. Just because the parents are morons dosn't mean you have to be an asshole in the implementation of this consequence.
Just have the kid go home at the end of the day with the rest of the kids and with the letter saying they can't come back the next day. Easy. No kid is put at risk for an afternoon for their parents idiocy and the enforcement of the policy is still happening.
 
2011-04-06 11:14:19 AM  
What? But we like being around potentially infectious carriers of wiped out diseases!
 
2011-04-06 11:15:03 AM  

El_Swino: Betenoreus: Horseshiat. Go to a walk-in clinic you douchetard.

Right, like I'm going to trust some walk-in clinic for my kids rickets vaccine. May as well go to a drive-thru vaccination.

And right here, kids, is where we have to ask ourselves the question: Troll or retard?




I don't think I'm the only one who thinks walk-in clinics are deadly. Maybe you want to check out another source, like CNN:
Walk-in Clinic Death (new window)
 
2011-04-06 11:15:30 AM  

This text is now purple: binkyman: The Great Gazoo: I'm all for vaccinating against life-threatening stuff, but for things like chicken pox or rotovirus, I just don't see the point.

Ever hear what chicken pox can do to you as an adult?

Most adults people acquire a superior chicken pox immunity through childhood exposure. I'm not sure actually getting chicken pox isn't better than getting a weakened version via vaccine.

A pissy first case is why I've had chicken pox twice.

\Also had measles and whooping cough...
\\And yes, I've been vaccinated.


Sucks to have your immune system.
 
2011-04-06 11:16:44 AM  
Cool, 3 week vacation from school!
 
2011-04-06 11:17:04 AM  

virtdave: Facts don't matter to the J.McCarthy crowd, so appealing to their intelligence is pointless. I'm not sure if the crook who published the bogus research supporting the autism-vaccination link is being charged with child endangerment, but he should be. And the "I can't get my kid vaccinated because of Socialized Medicine" is of course likewise bogus.


From which we can deduce:
1. Children who were not vaccinated died, perhaps hundreds.
2. A few of them, ironically, developed autism disorders.
3. There is a shortage of family doctors in some parts of Canada.
4. There is not a shortage of free clinic doctors in most parts of populated Canada.
 
2011-04-06 11:18:26 AM  

LasssiterBeRight: Link (new window) Vaccines and autism: a new scientific review by leading pharmacological expert researcher

BTW - for everyone who did not actually read Wakefield's MMR study, and instead read only what the media SAID about the study, Wakefield observed that of the children he was asked to observe as a gastroenterologist, he noted the very high incident rate of inflammatory bowel disease in autistic children. Inflammatory bowel disorders are scientifically and causally linked in medical literature to onset of autism. MMR is both scientifically and causally linked in medical literature to incidents of inflammatory bowel. Wakefield suggested this is occasion for serious research to be undertaken to determine if MMR, by causing inflammatory bowel is thus the change-agent for causing the cascade of medical events that can lead to autism.

Medical and pharmacological researchers are beginning to dare to do this research. The above article suggests there is compelling reasons to doubt the safety of the MMR stick.

Wakefield himself is on record repeatedly stating there are commendable reasons for vaccines. He doubts the medical safety of combining many vaccines into one shot in young and undeveloped immune systems.


Correlation does not imply causation

...on that note, I hope more unbiased research is done.

-mom of a child with Aspergers.
 
2011-04-06 11:18:45 AM  

spentmiles: heoretical aspects of autism: Causes-A review


That paper was merely a review of theories, it is not based on facts. In order to do that it would have needed to be a full fledged research study involving people, not just some woman doing an investigative review of existing theories.

But even IF it does vaccines still save vastly more children then they may hurt.

Relevant video: Penn & Teller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhk7-5eBCrs
 
2011-04-06 11:19:59 AM  

Grass Hopper: notschy: Keep your non-vaccinated kids away from my kids, ya hippies!

If your kids are vaccinated, why are you worrying?


Thats what I was thinking... Whats the point of being vaccinated it doesnt mean what it is ment. If I was vaccinated against chicken pox and someone had chicken pox, I wouldnt be able to get it cause I am immune to it due to my vaccination.

Or is that not how those things work now a days. Then again, Chicken Pox arent really a big deal for me since I had them and am immune naturally to them now. But for the sake of an example, Chicken Pox works.
 
2011-04-06 11:20:24 AM  

spentmiles: I refuse to respond directly to anyone attacking me, but I will defend myself.

An AMA study titled the "Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes-A review" clearly states, vaccinated children are more than twice as likely to contract autism from the vaccines, especially those vaccine batches that are not preserved using thimerosal.

So, you have to ask, if the health risk is so great, why does the liberal government want to force vaccinations on our children? There hasn't been a small pox outbreak in decades -- same for measles, mumps, rubella. Obviously vaccinations are outdated medicine, bent on protecting us from risks that don't even exist. Would you get vaccinated against scurvy? You probably would, but a person with half a brain would see the folly. I'm not even going to speculate what is truly in these serums, but I guarantee it's not just medicine. I was not vaccinated, and I'm fine. I worry that I can only see these truths because I was not polluted as an infant.


The military industrial complex orchestrated 9-11.
 
2011-04-06 11:20:48 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Overplayed your hand.


This is only the second thread where I've really noticed him, but he did the same thing in this thread. I never would have thought that just going full-retard would be such a successful trolling strategy here. I figured it would require some subtlety, but evidently I was wrong. Look how many bites his clearly idiotic posts are getting!
 
2011-04-06 11:21:04 AM  

Betenoreus: El_Swino: Betenoreus: Horseshiat. Go to a walk-in clinic you douchetard.

Right, like I'm going to trust some walk-in clinic for my kids rickets vaccine. May as well go to a drive-thru vaccination.

And right here, kids, is where we have to ask ourselves the question: Troll or retard?



I don't think I'm the only one who thinks walk-in clinics are deadly. Maybe you want to check out another source, like CNN:
Walk-in Clinic Death (new window)


Apparently it's both as the article refers to for-profit clinics in the US, not the evil socialized medicine here in Canada.
 
2011-04-06 11:23:59 AM  

The Great Gazoo: I'm all for vaccinating against life-threatening stuff, but for things like chicken pox or rotovirus, I just don't see the point.


Yeah, the chicken pox vaccine seems a bit extreme to me.

When I was a kid in the '80's, they just lined us up in the library and gave us the vaccines whether our parents wanted them to or not. No note home, no advance warning, no nothing. It even turns out that I was given the "live" polio vaccine, which is the one that carries some risk of vaccine-derived poliovirus. (A very small chance, to be sure, but I think my parents would have opted for the other kind if given a choice.)
 
2011-04-06 11:24:35 AM  

Betenoreus:

I don't think I'm the only one who thinks walk-in clinics are deadly. Maybe you want to check out another source, like CNN:
Walk-in Clinic Death (new window)


You do realize the article you linked was about the collapse of a clinic chain due a failed business model, not consumer rejection?
 
2011-04-06 11:25:02 AM  
All the trolls are using an example of trying to vaccinate against VITAMIN DEFICIENCIES...

1.) They're all the same person or (even worse) biting each other's styles

2.) As pathetic as THEY are, the people responding to them are far worse for being morons yet thinking they are educating anyone...
 
2011-04-06 11:25:38 AM  
Apparently it's both as the article refers to for-profit clinics in the US, not the evil socialized medicine here in Canada.

You missed the point, turdbag - I wouldn't go to a walk-in clinic whether it was for-profit or socialist.
 
2011-04-06 11:27:03 AM  

yves0010: Grass Hopper: notschy: Keep your non-vaccinated kids away from my kids, ya hippies!

If your kids are vaccinated, why are you worrying?

Thats what I was thinking... Whats the point of being vaccinated it doesnt mean what it is ment. If I was vaccinated against chicken pox and someone had chicken pox, I wouldnt be able to get it cause I am immune to it due to my vaccination.

Or is that not how those things work now a days. Then again, Chicken Pox arent really a big deal for me since I had them and am immune naturally to them now. But for the sake of an example, Chicken Pox works.


No vaccine is 100% effective.

Efficacy varies, depending on the vaccine.

I've seen quite a few kids end up with chicken pox, even though they were vaccinated for it. When it 'runs' through a school or community, its easy to see why 'herd immunity' isn't enough.
 
2011-04-06 11:27:36 AM  

Betenoreus:
I don't think I'm the only one who thinks walk-in clinics are deadly. Maybe you want to check out another source, like CNN:
Walk-in Clinic Death (new window)


...and the survey says: Troll. Nobody is this stupid. Goodbye!

/such a bizarre hobby, like paying people to shiat on your face. Takes all kinds, I guess.
 
2011-04-06 11:28:11 AM  

ttintagel: The Great Gazoo: I'm all for vaccinating against life-threatening stuff, but for things like chicken pox or rotovirus, I just don't see the point.

Yeah, the chicken pox vaccine seems a bit extreme to me.

When I was a kid in the '80's, they just lined us up in the library and gave us the vaccines whether our parents wanted them to or not. No note home, no advance warning, no nothing. It even turns out that I was given the "live" polio vaccine, which is the one that carries some risk of vaccine-derived poliovirus. (A very small chance, to be sure, but I think my parents would have opted for the other kind if given a choice.)


Keep in mind that rotoviruses & chickenpox CAN be dangerous for some people. I know my dad got shingles because he didn't have chickenpox as a kid, and that was pretty grisly. As a pregnant woman, I was advised to get the flu vaccine. I think there's a good reason that these two vaccines are not mandatory but many others (MMR) are.
 
2011-04-06 11:28:52 AM  

Betenoreus: Apparently it's both as the article refers to for-profit clinics in the US, not the evil socialized medicine here in Canada.

You missed the point, turdbag - I wouldn't go to a walk-in clinic whether it was for-profit or socialist.


No, your point is quite clear. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
 
2011-04-06 11:29:26 AM  
i'm confused. is spentmiles a troll or the stupidest person on fark?
 
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