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(All Access)   Laywer has a 40-year-old secret document from the Vatican explaining how to hold internal trials on sex abuse cases where no priest gets convicted   ( divider line
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2003-08-05 11:24:38 AM  
I'm confused a little bit. Is groton saying that a priest should go to jail for smoking weed, but not for butt raping boys?

Or is he saying that since what a priest confesses privately to another priest is protected, priests are above the law?
2003-08-05 11:25:12 AM  
kpar90, why are you making personal attacks?
2003-08-05 11:25:27 AM  
I'm pretty much agreeing with Groton on all his posts...way to use the Bible correctly.

It does NOT mention the trinity anywhere.

There is nothing wrong with sex, as long as it is within the marriage bond.

The apostle Luke was a physician, so that kinda rules out medicine for keeping healthy as a sin.

As far as abortion goes, the Bible doesn't specifically condemn abortion because the practice wasn't known back then. However, it DOES explicitly say that if 2 men are fighting, and they hit a pregnant woman and the baby dies, the men are bloodguilty and are to be put to death....
2003-08-05 11:25:56 AM  
Ooooh, Fitznuggly, your baptized outdoors or in moving water is delicious. It remind me of Kipling's "Certain things are not known to those who eat with forks."
2003-08-05 11:26:30 AM  

2003-08-05 11:26:51 AM  
my question is, why would parents let their precious little spawn become altar boys?

for all you catholics... would you let your kid spend "quality time" with a priest?
2003-08-05 11:27:20 AM  
Hold up there Han! Women have been using herbs to abort since pre-Christian times. They were well aware of the practice by the time the Bible was written.
2003-08-05 11:27:35 AM  
Above the Law

Starring Fr. Steven Seagal!
2003-08-05 11:27:45 AM  
"There is nothing wrong with sex, as long as it is within the marriage bond."
Jesus himself was born from an unmarried woman, according to the Bible :P
2003-08-05 11:27:51 AM  
i may be just a dumb vermonter, but i know the word, and that its right, i have studied it. read about it, read it. look at edison, people thought he was a retard, he couldnt talk untill he was 4.
2003-08-05 11:28:16 AM  
ya, but according to the Bible she didn't have sex. That's the work around.
2003-08-05 11:28:51 AM  
she had sex later - jesus had brothers.
2003-08-05 11:29:20 AM  
but does it ever mention is she got married post Jesus and pre other kids?
2003-08-05 11:29:29 AM  
i am saying they should go to jail, it is sin, it is immoral, and it is illegal.
2003-08-05 11:29:31 AM  
the_pgoat:...The men in charge of the catholic church had a responsibility to rectify this situation before it became rampant.

I think that's what they're getting in trouble for, man.
2003-08-05 11:29:52 AM  
seems to me good catholics wouldn't use words like "retard". how very unloving and accepting of you.
2003-08-05 11:30:05 AM  
I don't need a dictionary to spell words that have been in my vocabulary for years, or words that I throw around every day like I know something abot it.

What you've done so far in this thread is to throw out a bunch of verses and Biblical references devoid of any context. You've read the Bible, and you know what each verse means in a vacuum, but you cannot put it into context with the larger meaning of Christianity.

So read up on ancient Hindu myths about the flood epic. There are stories out there about the world being destroyed in a flood that predate Christianity, Judaism, or anything that could be considered Western religion. Read the history of the region that Christianity cam from. Not just the parts in your Bible that talk about the Hittites having chariots and better iron spears, but get a history book not condoned by whatever home-school association your parents use to get your text books. Grow up a little. Get laid. Smoke a cigar and get drunk, then puke for hours. Relax. If you depend so heavily on religion to get you through the day, you will be vastly disappointed. God will not put food on your table. He will not balance your check book. He will not keep the IRS off of your back. He will not keep people from stealing your car, your wallet, or from breaking into your house. He will not keep your children from turning into asshats. These things are up to you.

Now go do them.
2003-08-05 11:30:13 AM  
2003-08-05 11:29:31 AM spookcomix

2003-08-05 11:30:40 AM  
As far as abortion goes, the Bible doesn't specifically condemn abortion because the practice wasn't known back then. However, it DOES explicitly say that if 2 men are fighting, and they hit a pregnant woman and the baby dies, the men are bloodguilty and are to be put to death....

I'm going to have to call shenanigans on this, Hanz. Abortion has been practiced forever (some animals even eat abortion-inducing plants when they're not fit to carry a litter/it's too cold/there's not enough food). Further, the scripture I remember reading says that the man should pay the woman and her husband a payment in property determined by the baby's father.

Can you provide that scripture?
2003-08-05 11:30:42 AM  
I know.... rectify.... I was waiting for that
2003-08-05 11:31:01 AM  
The apostle Luke was a physician...

That's like saying wheel makers were automechanics! Luke was an herbalist taught by his pagan parents to use plants for beneficial (and intoxicating) purposes. Probably knew where to score da phat buds and other psychotropic, crowd pleasing plants...
2003-08-05 11:31:04 AM  
Okay, the speaking in tongues thing these days is not right...

Back in Bible times, they didn't speak in some mystery language. When they spoke in tongues, they were speaking another language, but it was a known language, for the purpose of letting people who couldn't speak Hebrew or Greek or whatever language hear what the message was. There wasn't any mystery language that required a translator. People readily understood it, if it was their language...

I gotta get back to work...I'm outta this thread.
2003-08-05 11:31:12 AM  
Oops, sorry... I forgot about the magical virginal birth. Excuse me. My parents spent 10 years having sex until my mum got pregnant with me, and this Holy Mary got pregnant without even having sex. Life ain't fair on everyone!
2003-08-05 11:31:14 AM  
Kpar wins
2003-08-05 11:31:17 AM  
im not politicaly correct.
2003-08-05 11:32:00 AM  
and retard is the word they used to describe him.
2003-08-05 11:32:06 AM  
Myrna: Somehow I knew you'd see that, sweet tits.

Groton: I'm really not. I'm trying to prepare you for thje world out there. It's more functional than you think.

Besides, it's Fark and I'm Kpar90. It's how it is.
2003-08-05 11:32:47 AM  
ABOUT. Next time, Myrna.
2003-08-05 11:33:15 AM  
Heck with organized religion. Rarely do you find a group or parish that just hold to the nice basic ideals of what everyone should be like. Condensed 10 commandments pretty much say, "Don't be an jerk, or it's your ass." You wouldn't think that would be too hard, but we've managed to prove otherwise.

I'm considering finding a nice church once I get back to college, but unfortunately most churches in college towns are overpopulated with the "really enthusiastic" people who try to cram it all down my throat. I'll believe what I believe, so fug off.

I personally like the Lutheran church i went to previously back at home. It was the normal "divine service, take your pick of 1-3". Nice structure, no craziness.

Once, when visiting the ex's sister, I had the chance to visit some sort of weird fringe church that took place in the basement of a bank in some meeting room......weird stuff. Sang some weird songs and people just "worshipped as they felt". Some people just started spouting out some weird stuff too, or "involuntarily" swaying.....Weird shiat....
2003-08-05 11:33:34 AM  
"Sweet tits"!

I just blew coffee through my nose!!!!!
2003-08-05 11:33:58 AM  
God will put food on my table. he will make a way. The bible says that the birds dont gather into barns, but the Lord feeds them, arent we more important then the birds?
2003-08-05 11:34:51 AM  
saviourag - magical virginal birth. Cristianity's whole shootin' match is based on this oxymoron.

The lack of logic in organized relgion makes my head hurt.
2003-08-05 11:34:53 AM  
By refering to outdoor baptisms, and especially river baptisms, I was poking fun at some of the more rustic strains of Chritianity that we find here in America, and indeed, in this thread.
2003-08-05 11:34:55 AM  
and im not saying that i know all about the bible, i have only been in church for four or five years, and i have puked for hours, and smoked pot, and other stuff, but i changed.
2003-08-05 11:35:02 AM  
I'm considering suing the Catholic church and the vatican because priests did NOT molest me... What, I wasn't good enough?

/scarred for life... Great.
2003-08-05 11:35:20 AM  
Groton is like Bevets but without the proper grmamar or punctuation.

Besides, it's Fark and I'm Kpar90. It's how it is.

Truer words have never been spoken.
2003-08-05 11:35:32 AM  
We are, he says, but still millions die of hunger every day!
2003-08-05 11:35:36 AM  

that was probably the quakers. They believe in a personal relationship with god and they don't really like to have a pastor or anything. They meet and then just sort of wait for the "spirit to move them", as I understand.
2003-08-05 11:35:58 AM  
Boy, how's that for poetic justice, eh?
2003-08-05 11:36:57 AM  
God will put food on my table.

Heh, ok, instead of doing anything for the next month, stay in bed and pray. Pray Until Something Happens. PUSH. I always like WWJD, but the underselling PUSH pop-culture trinkets really sum up the religion better....
2003-08-05 11:37:09 AM  
i have been in the world.
2003-08-05 11:37:18 AM  
Groton: Yes, we're more important than the birds. God gave us dominion over the animals of the Earth, right?

But lets's see you shoot a deer with a Bible verse. Or raise corn. Try going to an HEB (Texas chain) and when they tell you you owe them $100 for the groceries in your cart, respond with: "God is providing these groceries and has found a way for me to eat."

And when you need a lawyer, give me a call. I'll plead insanity for you.
2003-08-05 11:37:30 AM  
culturemock, I know. I was just playing a fool. I live in a 98% Catholic country, and I'm an Atheist and proud to be so.
2003-08-05 11:38:50 AM  
Birds dont have hands, i do.
2003-08-05 11:39:27 AM  
Everytime someone points out the errors in someone else's spelling and grammer, they fark it all up.

Teh funnay.

I bet groton was in jail and got saved.
2003-08-05 11:39:52 AM  
Dogfather: He's way too nice, too.

saviourag: And several hundred million Hindus go hungry while they worship the one thing that can feed them. Irony tag please.
2003-08-05 11:40:29 AM  
By refering to outdoor baptisms, and especially river baptisms, I was poking fun at some of the more rustic strains of Chritianity that we find here in America, and indeed, in this thread.

Gotcha. I just hate it when people try to restrict the conversation to what they think it should be. No harm, no foul.

Myrna: Somehow I knew you'd see that, sweet tits

Man, I'm tearing up over here. That's the sweetest thing anyone's ever called me.
2003-08-05 11:40:30 AM  
Birds don't get fined for pissing all over the place. I do.
2003-08-05 11:41:02 AM  
I always wonder about the "God will provide" line of thinking. Isn't there also something about helping those that help themselves? The problem is not matter what they do or don't do if they don't die they give credit to GOd. If he/she goes out and finds a job and works thier butt off to put food on the table it's still "God's grace" that got them that job and provided. There's really no arguing with religious folk as they have this very strange, all-powerful diety that can somehow get the credit for everything.
2003-08-05 11:41:18 AM  
Myrna: There's plenty more where that came from baby.
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