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(AZCentral)   Robert De Niro, Harvey Keitel, Howard Stern and Donald Trump licensed to carry guns in NY; Joan Rivers, Steven Seagal and William F. Buckley had gun-license renewals rejected by NY City Police   (azcentral.com) divider line 78
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2003-08-04 03:38:33 PM  
Good for them. Too bad it's so difficult for the unwashed masses to get a permit.
 
2003-08-04 04:10:40 PM  
Like Steven Seagal needs a gun permit, he used to work for the CIA.
 
2003-08-04 05:17:28 PM  
Unwashed masses, RagingLeonard? William F. Buckley? Hardly. Another reason why I won't be visiting NYC again until that asshat Bloomberg is ushered out of office.
 
2003-08-04 05:59:20 PM  
Now if New York could revoke Steven Segals membership in the Screen Actors Guild.
 
2003-08-04 07:47:19 PM  
While I have nothing to say on the topic at hand, eddie_irvine's comment is the best I've read all day.
 
2003-08-04 09:43:29 PM  
About 3,600 New Yorkers are authorized to carry a loaded weapon, down from 4,500 at the end of 2001.

Nothing like a city that won't let it's own citizen's carry weapons to make you feel safe. That's why I don't go to the city at all, even though it's less than an hour from where I live.
 
2003-08-04 10:13:52 PM  
Good, the ones more likely to shoot have permits!
 
2003-08-04 10:14:27 PM  
"TheOmni" Where do you live?
 
2003-08-04 10:14:43 PM  
They blew it on Trump.
 
2003-08-04 10:14:52 PM  
Steven Seagal doesn't need a gun. However, he does need some inflection in his voice.
 
2003-08-04 10:14:56 PM  
Now are these concealed carrier permits or just plain ownership of guns?
 
2003-08-04 10:14:57 PM  

Of course Harvey Keitel is licensed. The Wolf can't be unarmed.
 
2003-08-04 10:20:33 PM  
Who in their right mind would have given Joan Rivers a gun in the first place?
 
2003-08-04 10:21:27 PM  
I don't think I'd ever draw down on DiNero. I'd be afraid that him and joe pesci would find me some day and kick the crap outta me.
 
2003-08-04 10:21:29 PM  
Howard,
Shoot yourself.

Regards,

Sam
 
2003-08-04 10:21:57 PM  
I always got the impression that Mr. Wolf didn't need a gun..

eddie_Irvine; Right on!
 
2003-08-04 10:22:32 PM  
I'm not a fan of guns or of the public possession of guns, but, NYC seems to be granting licenses arbitrarily (I say "seems" because I'm not actually privy to the process -- and, there may, in fact, be a reasonable explanation for why Steven Segal and William Buckley can't pack heat). Is Donald Trump really more deserving of protection than Joe Sixpack?
 
2003-08-04 10:24:59 PM  
No, Mr. DeNiro, sir, I'm not talking to you!
 
2003-08-04 10:25:31 PM  
I live in NYC and the NYPD gives out gun licenses as personal favors. But for a city so fuggin huge, I don't mind the average citizen not being armed.

Oh and Bullpen while Bloomberg is kinda screwy, he has nothing to do with the city's gun control. It's the NYPD.
 
2003-08-04 10:25:43 PM  
Is Howard's gun big like his nose or small like his penis?
 
2003-08-04 10:26:53 PM  
Ms. Rivers, meet Mr. Keitel.

Mr. Seagal, meet Mr. De Niro.

Mr. Stern, re-read Mr. SamHandwich's instructions.
 
2003-08-04 10:27:02 PM  
Now the whole world knows who to stick up, and who to avoid.
 
2003-08-04 10:28:26 PM  


you talking to me?
 
2003-08-04 10:31:48 PM  
I concur with SamHandwich howard stern needs to go away.
 
2003-08-04 10:32:34 PM  
bbcrackmonkey asks: Now are these concealed carrier permits or just plain ownership of guns?

In NYC, you must have a license to purchase or possess a handgun of any type. And, the license is pretty restrictive. If you are a licensee and want to add a gun to your arsenal, you must petition for a Purchase Authorization Coupon and have your license amended to reflect the purchase.

Beyond that, there are different kinds of licenses. One type allows the owner to keep the weapon in his home. Another, allows a weapon to be kept in a place of business. Another allows for possession if a firearm is required for a job (such as armed guard). Another allows for the possession of a so-called "target" handgun. And, a final allows for the possession of antique weapons.

As far as CCPs go, a licensee is allowed to carry his gun on his person -- either concealed or in plain sight -- unless the license contains a restriction (and, most do).
 
2003-08-04 10:34:47 PM  
Thanks god they didn't let Buckley have one.

That guys can't even see the equity between what we did in Vietnam and Panama.

Psycho to the extreme.
 
2003-08-04 10:36:12 PM  
=^o.o^= Am i the only one who thinks this warrants a "scary" tag?
 
2003-08-04 10:36:44 PM  
In NYC, you must have a license to purchase or possess a handgun of any type. And, the license is pretty restrictive. If you are a licensee and want to add a gun to your arsenal, you must petition for a Purchase Authorization Coupon and have your license amended to reflect the purchase.

and people complain on and on about california laws. sheesh. hell i can buy a gun without having a petition to purchase. glad i'm not in NY. full of assholes to boot too.
 
2003-08-04 10:38:35 PM  
Sorry, I forgot one type of NYC license. A person can apply for a more-or-less unrestricted license that allows a person to carry without having any particular use or location requirements.
 
2003-08-04 10:40:50 PM  
Gudel: heck I live on Long Island, and if I want to go upstate with a rifle I have to pass through the City...which is technically illegal because while the state says I can have one..the city says no (not personally just not licensed there while elsewhere in the state to own a shotgun you don't need a license).......screwy huh...on the other hand I don't know if I want most islanders I know to have guns...
 
2003-08-04 10:40:57 PM  
gudel, those requirements are just for NYC. New York state's rules are considerably more relaxed. But, compared to most states, New York is still pretty severe.
 
2003-08-04 10:42:49 PM  
JOAN !! HEY JOAN!! Now u gotta tell me whose heat ARE u packing??
 
2003-08-04 10:47:33 PM  
here in california, you pretty much pass a test to get some type of license (like you passing a driver license test). then you can buy guns on a certified safety list. they limit to one handgun a month plus 10day wait, but there's no one handgun a month limit on used/consignment but you still have 10day wait.

so technically, you can buy 20 used handguns all at once, and pick them all up 10 days later. but you can't do that with new handgun. stupid if you ask me.
 
2003-08-04 10:52:40 PM  
In the AZ, you need to go through an instant background check when you plop down your wadded up $20s. And, you have to sign a form at the store. Then you take the gun home. Unless, of course, the background system is down... then we can skip that little step.

CCW required a 16 hour class, a background check and about $50. Now I can skip the background checks altogether on new guns.
 
2003-08-04 10:54:53 PM  
Why would anyone be worried about a law abiding person getting a gun permit??? Do you think criminals wait in line up to get them, noooooooo. I own a few guns for hunting purposes and grew up with a father who used zero tolerance in gun safety as everyone should. The only reason I haven't purchased a handgun and a lockable case for the bedroom is I have a dog to alert me if someone might be breaking in. And yes my few guns are in a locked guncase in the basement. As soon as I can afford the gun and lockable case I want I will sleep well knowing that I can protect my family. How do you sleep knowing the phone is your only defense? Not a slam gainst non-gun owners but I'd like to know.
 
2003-08-04 10:56:50 PM  
I live in Mississippi. We're required to own a minimum of 5 guns, any type. Carrying a concealed weapon is mandatory other than when attending church. Those who cannot afford the minimum number of weapons may apply for assistance through the State of Mississippi/NRA indigent gunowner's fund. Those stopped by the police and found not in possession of a weapon will be issued a loaner secured by the person's driver's license.
 
2003-08-04 10:57:26 PM  
. . is this a repeat? with the exact some headline, or am i just freaking?
 
2003-08-04 11:02:42 PM  
laid back w/bud light asks: Why would anyone be worried about a law abiding person getting a gun permit???

The only reason I can think of is to prevent handguns from being stolen and circulated that way. Sure, you're always going to have a black market. But, black markets can price certain people out. Petty thieves will sell a stolen gun for a hit of crack.
 
2003-08-04 11:03:37 PM  
i have two guns under my pillow.
if you don't want guns, then don't buy it, but just don't impose your dislike of guns to other people by preventing them purchasing guns.

but that's what the morons are doing in california senate.
 
2003-08-04 11:07:10 PM  
Also, laid back w/bud light, there might be a public safety issue. Accidental discharges kill quite a few people. I don't know what the rates are in New York City -- but, they may have made the decision that the number of accidents and the cost imposed on the city (for emergency services) was simply too high.
 
2003-08-04 11:08:43 PM  
Accidental discharges kill quite a few people. I don't know what the rates are in New York City -- but, they may have made the decision that the number of accidents and the cost imposed on the city (for emergency services) was simply too high.

see it from the other perspective. i view it as Darwin at work.
 
2003-08-04 11:17:01 PM  
cf. U.S. Constitution 2nd Amendment (militia):

1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service

(The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language)

Use some sense, require registration, background checks (no, the won't weed out every crazy -- but at least non-crazy will have a chance to defend themselves! [I'm kidding. Kinda]) psyche-profiling. Bottom line, anyone willing and able to take up arms should be allowed to own a firearm.

"Armas, para que?" Castro.

No, I'm not some right wing gun nut (I'm middle-of-road-but-mostly-leans-conservative-but-occasionally-can-be-very-libe ral) -- but if you've seen a hostile governments tanks and guns in the town square of your home city, and armed citizenry seems like a good idea.
 
2003-08-04 11:18:01 PM  
Police declined to say why Seagal and Buckley were turned down for permits.

Well, Seagal is nuttier than a cheese log. Makes an action movie, can't keep his political speeches about internal combustion engines out of it. And it's truly ignorant conspiracy talk, with no basis in fact whatsoever. These are the signs of a mentally unstable individual. The ponytail doesn't help either.

Buckley? Need you ask? He's a conservative. He must be punished.
 
2003-08-04 11:18:57 PM  
I thought concelead carry permits were illegal in NY...altho0ught that law being pout into place is illegal in and of itself///
 
2003-08-04 11:20:55 PM  
i used to live in a country where guns were prohibited.
that's right, no guns whatsoever for civilians.

oh yeah, it was ruled by a dictator.
 
2003-08-04 11:27:27 PM  
Geez,...the way some of you people talk I see why Howard's packin'! Bababooey to you all!
 
2003-08-04 11:35:32 PM  
NY has some lame laws. Come down to georgia. We're all having a great time.

I have a 22 can right now and i love being able to shoot targets in my living room.
 
2003-08-04 11:36:13 PM  
Geez,...the way some of you people talk I see why Howard's packin'! Bababooey to you all!

heh.. sheeple
 
2003-08-04 11:43:25 PM  
Lived in GA, myself... too damn hot. Too damn humid.
 
2003-08-04 11:43:49 PM  
i pack a gun, but it's a rich, delicious chocolate gun that i nibble on when my blood sugar's getting low.

i figure it keeps me as safe as a real gun. unless i'm in the presence of joan rivers, in which case nothing could make me feel safe.
 
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