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(Orlando Sentinel)   $1 billion in aid to Japan has reached... the pockets of the Red Cross   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 341
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2011-04-03 04:24:18 PM  
Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?
 
2011-04-03 04:27:11 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?


Haiti, as well, I believe.

But they have a great campaign with the text message money. You almost feel guilty for not even doing something that simple, and they know it.
 
2011-04-03 04:36:05 PM  
The Red Cross has dispatched more than 200 emergency relief teams to the disaster zone and organized thousands of volunteers to assist victims.

Buried down in the article.
 
2011-04-03 04:39:51 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?


And with Hati and I think they also skimmed a ton of money off from the 9/11 attacks.
 
2011-04-03 04:41:06 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?


A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.
 
2011-04-03 04:41:21 PM  
Yeah I haven't given a thin dime to the Red Cross since a whole slew of articles came out about mismanagement, waste, and fraud some time back in the mid-90's. I shifted my charitable contributions to organizations that do more long-term capacity building. Things like OxFam, Bill and Melinda Gates, etc. etc.
 
2011-04-03 04:47:30 PM  

Dufus: A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.


I didn't realize that they were the only people allowed to do relief work... what, are they afraid someone else will get credit for doing good work?

Good on that pastor, though.
 
2011-04-03 05:11:05 PM  

BreezyWheeze: Yeah I haven't given a thin dime to the Red Cross since a whole slew of articles came out about mismanagement, waste, and fraud some time back in the mid-90's. I shifted my charitable contributions to organizations that do more long-term capacity building. Things like OxFam, Bill and Melinda Gates, etc. etc.


This. I prefer to give to on-the-ground organizations that have been there for a long time before disasters, such as Paul Farmer's Partners in Health. A wonderful organization.

Also, a friend had a friend in Japan lose her husband and baby in the tsunamai so I gave directly to her and she will send it along. No overhead there.
 
2011-04-03 05:36:25 PM  

Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.


Bullshiat.
 
2011-04-03 05:38:10 PM  

Weaver95: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

And with Hati and I think they also skimmed a ton of money off from the 9/11 attacks.


That they did, and the RC will never get another cent from me.
 
2011-04-03 05:39:11 PM  
I wasn't falling for this whole "Red Cross" thing again. This time I gave my money to a nice young Nigerian man who said he would personally deliver it.
 
2011-04-03 05:40:25 PM  

JosephFinn: Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.

Bullshiat.



I'm really glad you cleared that up for us, Joe.
 
2011-04-03 05:40:25 PM  
I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.
 
2011-04-03 05:40:43 PM  
No surprise. I've seen the Red Cross in action after smaller scale disasters. While all the other charities that showed were handing out free food and supplies to the needy without heed to the cost, the Red Cross people were charging for sandwiches, ignoring those without cash in hand who asked for help and focused their energy on obtaining more donations from everyone else.

They're good for blood drives, but nothing else.
 
2011-04-03 05:42:26 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.


So you are mad they are thinking long term?
 
2011-04-03 05:42:56 PM  
Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.


Bullshiat.
 
2011-04-03 05:43:10 PM  

serpent_sky: Dufus: A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

I didn't realize that they were the only people allowed to do relief work... what, are they afraid someone else will get credit for doing good work?

Good on that pastor, though.


Charities are allowed to pay their administrators and office people whatever amount they see fit, with no accountability.
That said, most charities are a scam.
 
2011-04-03 05:44:18 PM  
This is why I have such a hard time donating to ANYONE after a disaster. It seems like no matter who you give money to they end up keeping most of it.

Just don't know who to trust anymore.
 
2011-04-03 05:44:36 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: No surprise. I've seen the Red Cross in action after smaller scale disasters. While all the other charities that showed were handing out free food and supplies to the needy without heed to the cost, the Red Cross people were charging for sandwiches, ignoring those without cash in hand who asked for help and focused their energy on obtaining more donations from everyone else.

They're good for blood drives, but nothing else.


Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.



Apparently not.
 
2011-04-03 05:46:04 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.


Citation needed.

/bad blood does get incinerated for good reasons
//nation does need a constant supply of regular blood donors
 
2011-04-03 05:46:33 PM  
When a big storm hit Houston the Red Cross showed up quickly to give aid.

By give aid I mean the arrived at a spot where the Salvation Army was feeding people flooded out of their homes, made sure their spokespeople were the ones interviewed with the Salvation Army crews actually doing the work in the background, and went to the victims asking for donations.

The Salvation Army never made any effort to correct the perception that it was a Red Cross organized effort. They were too busy actually helping people.
 
2011-04-03 05:46:49 PM  
The article is odd. Why would someone giving money to something like the red cross expect it to be given DIRECTLY, ie as money, to victims? I would expect money given to an organisation like that to be spent on supplies and medical/rescue etc etc not given out as cash.

Or am I missing something?
 
2011-04-03 05:46:50 PM  
What is a good charity to donate to?
 
2011-04-03 05:47:23 PM  

Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.



Wow. I'm floored.
 
2011-04-03 05:47:45 PM  
Gosh, I guess they should just fly over Japan and just throw money out the plane's windows.
 
2011-04-03 05:48:42 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: No surprise. I've seen the Red Cross in action after smaller scale disasters. While all the other charities that showed were handing out free food and supplies to the needy without heed to the cost, the Red Cross people were charging for sandwiches, ignoring those without cash in hand who asked for help and focused their energy on obtaining more donations from everyone else.

They're good for blood drives, but nothing else.


Again, bullshiat. It's on you for proof, but I'll start you off.

Lots of bullshiat in here, fueled by the trolltastic headline.
 
2011-04-03 05:49:07 PM  
biatch, biatch, biatch...
 
2011-04-03 05:49:21 PM  

Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.


I call bullshiat.
 
2011-04-03 05:49:23 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: No surprise. I've seen the Red Cross in action after smaller scale disasters. While all the other charities that showed were handing out free food and supplies to the needy without heed to the cost, the Red Cross people were charging for sandwiches, ignoring those without cash in hand who asked for help and focused their energy on obtaining more donations from everyone else.

They're good for blood drives, but nothing else.


They're good at selling you back your blood too.
 
2011-04-03 05:49:41 PM  

flamingboar: What is a good charity to donate to?


The Red Cross, except that it's not a charity. It's a relief organization.

Marysue: JosephFinn: Dufus: Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?

A Red Gross rep tried to shut down relief work at our local Baptist church after Katrina. The pastor listened patiently and quietly to her explain that it was not sanctioned by the Red Cross and must be shut down. Then he offered to let her tell the people waiting in line for hot meals and supplies that they had to go away and wait until the Red Cross finally got to our town.

She left. Still haven't seen anyone from RC around here since.

Bullshiat.

I'm really glad you cleared that up for us, Joe.


Hey, if the poster wants to actually make any citations rather than pass on an unbelievable rumor, go ahead. I mean, we're not talking about the Salvation Army, an organization that requires you to be proselytized to for their sky god religion to get help.
 
2011-04-03 05:51:00 PM  

flamingboar: What is a good charity to donate to?


I've started a charitable mission to dispense organic booze to the chemically sensetive and could use some funding.
 
2011-04-03 05:52:12 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.



I can see their reasoning. Very mercenary. I'd have put out the reason that they didn't feel qualified to tell people who spontaneously wanted to give that there was enough already, and left the mercenary 'repeat donor' part out of it. 90 percent, though??? Man, I'd love to see a citation for that. That's too big a number. 9/11 wasn't the only tragedy where blood was needed that year. Is it like PETA and the puppies where they don't have the space?
 
2011-04-03 05:53:29 PM  
I was very disappointed in the Red Cross when they put up some friends of mine after a house fire because they put them up in a cheap and ratty hotel with mold and mice.

I live in a very tiny place or I would have put them all up with me.

Knowing how much the Red Cross collects, I feel they could have done better.
 
2011-04-03 05:53:41 PM  
I heard that the Red Cross drank the last of the milk and put the empty carton back in the fridge...
 
2011-04-03 05:53:53 PM  
Hey, that's almost enough to cover salaries of as many Red Cross executives as you can fit on a barstool.
 
2011-04-03 05:54:26 PM  
The interest on a billion dollars in the bank must be pretty nice.

I'm thinking that delaying the payment out by just a little bit earns some people a lot of money that never reaches any of the disaster victims.
 
2011-04-03 05:55:39 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: I heard that the Red Cross drank the last of the milk and put the empty carton back in the fridge...


I heard that the Red Cross, in conjunction with Acorn and the Rand corporation, conspired to assassinate Abraham Lincoln
 
2011-04-03 05:56:58 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Didn't the U.S. Red Cross do basically the same thing post-Katrina?



Yup.
 
2011-04-03 05:57:07 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I heard that the Red Cross, in conjunction with Acorn and the Rand corporation, conspired to assassinate Abraham Lincoln


I also heard that the Red Cross shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
 
2011-04-03 05:57:18 PM  

CreamFilling: Hey, that's almost enough to cover salaries of as many Red Cross executives as you can fit on a barstool.


Upside down or right side up?
 
2011-04-03 05:58:00 PM  
Yeah, they have something like a billion dollars from Haiti donations that's just sitting around.
 
2011-04-03 05:58:10 PM  
 
2011-04-03 05:59:06 PM  
And don't get me started on the scam of all scams that is United Way...
 
2011-04-03 05:59:23 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I heard that the Red Cross, in conjunction with Acorn and the Rand corporation, conspired to assassinate Abraham Lincoln

I also heard that the Red Cross shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.


I heard that 90% of the Red Cross's administrative costs actually go towards kicking puppies
 
2011-04-03 05:59:31 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.


I can see their reasoning. Very mercenary. I'd have put out the reason that they didn't feel qualified to tell people who spontaneously wanted to give that there was enough already, and left the mercenary 'repeat donor' part out of it. 90 percent, though??? Man, I'd love to see a citation for that. That's too big a number. 9/11 wasn't the only tragedy where blood was needed that year. Is it like PETA and the puppies where they don't have the space?


Directly relating to 9/11, very little blood was actually needed. Overwhelmingly, if you were there and didnt die, chances were, you were perfectly fine.
 
2011-04-03 05:59:43 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: No surprise. I've seen the Red Cross in action after smaller scale disasters. While all the other charities that showed were handing out free food and supplies to the needy without heed to the cost, the Red Cross people were charging for sandwiches, ignoring those without cash in hand who asked for help and focused their energy on obtaining more donations from everyone else.

They're good for blood drives, but nothing else.



Yeah.


Seems like they're quite adept at bleeding donors.
 
2011-04-03 06:00:28 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.


Every hospital in the country is asking for blood. Couldn't they give the excess to them?

They are starting to sound like PETA for people.
 
2011-04-03 06:00:47 PM  

CreamFilling: Hey, that's almost enough to cover salaries of as many Red Cross executives as you can fit on a barstool.


Four?
 
2011-04-03 06:01:07 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: I heard that the Red Cross drank the last of the milk and put the empty carton back in the fridge...


No, it was even more heinous. They left just enough milk in the container to wet the bottom of the glass.
 
2011-04-03 06:01:57 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Satanic_Hamster: I refuse to donate to the Red Cross. Very badly run and dishonest organization.

Did you know that 90 percent of the blood donated after 9/11 in the US was incinerated? Even when they knew their blood banks were filled to capacity, they kept taking donations and running advertisements for blood drives. Their brilliant plan was that if they could get people in to donate blood for PATRIOTISM after 9/11 once, some of them would become regular blood donors.

Every hospital in the country is asking for blood. Couldn't they give the excess to them?

They are starting to sound like PETA for people.


I'd verify that 90% figure before I started jumping to conclusions like that.
 
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