Maintenance isn't overreacting subby.

But hey, their tickets are cheap! Who cares if they use tin foil for their aging set of planes.

Preston Preston: Maintenance isn't overreacting subby.

Done in one.

Passenger Brenda Reese told CNN affiliates KCRA and KOVR she began to fear for her life.

"I was texting my sister to make certain that she told my kids that I loved them," Reese said.

There is the cause of the accident. Stupid passenger using an electronic device above 10,000 feet.

RCraig,

You know that's all BS, right?

I been here like 10 yrs and have never ever made this far up the comment que. WTF, am I going to die now? Shiat, I done used up all my karma. OK, here's vid of Aloha 737 that did a strip in mid-flight.


Aloha Stripper (new window)

Why haven't all the news reports cross referenced from a few years ago when Southwest was busted on skipping out on all those inspections! WHHHY!

At first I had to read the headline twice but then I was like..

Obviously the folks at Southwest don't watch Myth Busters or they would know that there's no risk of explosive decompression. Just slap some duct tape over the hole and it'll be all good.

I'll agree with the probability issue here, subby. but if i had a plane that had an unexplained hole, i'd be checking every single plane that was from the same work order.

Preston Preston: Maintenance isn't overreacting subby.

THIS^^^

subtard must not understand aluminum fatigue

The probability was 1:1 for those passengers. I'll take the temp groundings.

MikeMc: Obviously the folks at Southwest don't watch Myth Busters or they would know that there's no risk of explosive decompression. Just slap some duct tape over the hole and it'll be all good.

"You have used up three inches of sticky tape. God bless you."

chaosweaver: I'll agree with the probability issue here, subby. but if i had a plane that had an unexplained hole, i'd be checking every single plane that was from the same work order.


Plus this plane wasn't very old, built in 1996. Of course, SW keeps its gate turnarounds short to maximize their ROI, which means more pressure/depressure cycles on the hull. I'd still think a 14 year old plane from 1996 shouldn't suffer this sort of catastrophic fatigue.

It'll be interesting to see what caused the issue.

effugas: RCraig,

You know that's all BS, right?

southwest is the only airline that know how to run an airline.

kudos, southwest.

edmo: This should be an incredibly rare event but this makes twice for SWA in under two years. This is precisely the time to overreact because this should not be happening.

The last time. (new window)

Both 737-300 series, both on nearly the same axis... I mean, I don't get why anyone at that stage wouldn't take a good look at the possibility of metal fatigue in either the skin, rivets, or whatever structural members run longitudinally along the top of the ac near the centerline... maybe it's a flexibility issue with the structure... idk, but I don't see why anyone thinks of inspections as an overreaction.

If this was the first event, sure, grounding planes of that type for checks might be an overreaction (and still probably would be justified to assure customers). It isn't the first event though and something is wrong in their maintenance department if they aren't catching this. So far, they have been lucky that these hull breaches have been relatively minor instead of the Aloha airlines type. They need to get a handle on what is causing this fatigue on planes that shouldn't have issues at this point in their lifecycle.

chaosweaver: I'll agree with the probability issue here, subby. but if i had a plane that had an unexplained hole, i'd be checking every single plane that was from the same work order.

That's the underlying mentality there. This was not a random event--something caused this and will cause it again if it's not discovered and fixed.

"Discovered a hole" - er, I don't think there was much "discovery" needed there...

edmo: This should be an incredibly rare event but this makes twice for SWA in under two years. This is precisely the time to overreact because this should not be happening.

The last time. (new window)

Interesting, from that article is this picture:



That's not far from the point of failure on this recent jet. And the age of the plane was nearly the same also, meaning it might have a similar number of pressure cycles on the hull. That failure was caused by fatigue.

I Hate (read: hatehatehatehatehatehate) flying... I only fly once a year on average, and I dread every minute of it. Taking off & landing make my palms sweat, any abrupt motion of the aircraft makes me jump in my seat, if we do hit a patch of significant turbulence my stomach tries to plot an exit from my body against my will...

But even after all that and how nervous it makes me, I always find solace in the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of flights all over the world every day, and you maybe hear about 5-6 major incidents a year. The chances of the one flight I happen to be that year on having any kind of problem (major or minor) is akin to me hitting the lottery.

And I haven't hit the lottery yet.

I'm gonna need some pliers, and a set of 30 weight ball bearings.

FTFA: "'There are no reported customer injuries," according to a statement released by the airline. "One of the flight attendants, however, received a minor injury upon descent."

Hansen said one male flight attendant appeared to fall and was bleeding from a facial injury.'"

I bet *that's* the first time he got bloody from a facial!

/sorry.... I had to!

the flight my roommate had from lax to Portland tonight was canceled this morning.

Got nothin'.

TheDirtyNacho 2011-04-02 04:39:45 PM
Interesting, from that article is this picture:
msnbcmedia1.msn.com
That's not far from the point of failure on this recent jet. And the age of the plane was nearly the same also, meaning it might have a similar number of pressure cycles on the hull. That failure was caused by fatigue."
=================================================================

Insurance Adjuster:
looks like rock damage, and due to the circumstances,
it is classified as an Act of Nature.
We're sorry,but That is not covered under your policy.

We will raise your rates, however
because you seem accident prone.

The Flexecutioner: southwest is the only airline that know how to run an airline.

kudos, southwest.

I would also accept JetBlue.

/Delta, United, and American can rot in hell

I love corporate press releases after events like this. It's as if they're all written by a robot that generates them from Mad-libs:

"[Company] is dedicated to the safety of its [products] and [customers]," [corporate stooge] said. "We are providing assistance to the [relevant regulatory agency] as it investigates the incident. [For bullshiat cover-our-ass reason], we cannot speculate or comment further on this incident; any questions about the investigation must be directed to the [government agency]."

Yeah, this is an overreaction. Just like when they took all the DC-10's out of service after that crash in Chicago, then discovered five other DC-10's with cracks that could cause the same kind of crash...

Oh, wait, that action found a flaw in airline procedures that might have cost hundreds of additional lives.

Never mind.

"We were in shock," passenger Debbie Downey told CNN Saturday. "We were in row 16 and my husband and I could see blue sky ... the wiring, the cabling. It actually was terrifying."

No need to be such a Debbie Downer.

enry: The Flexecutioner: southwest is the only airline that know how to run an airline.

kudos, southwest.

I would also accept JetBlue.

/Delta, United, and American can rot in hell

there might be some foreign airlines, too, but i've never used them.

enry: The Flexecutioner: southwest is the only airline that know how to run an airline.

kudos, southwest.

I would also accept JetBlue.

/Delta, United, and American can rot in hell

Well, I'd expect Farkers to love their unionized Southwest airlines. Like always, unions fail at everything. That's why Southwest sucks.

I only fly nonunion airlines like Delta. You can clearly tell that they are superior when you fly with them.

We should ground all flights and halt all production of new planes. These vehicles are clearly not safe in any form.

Or perhaps just investigate the problem, fix it, and improve planes to avoid the problem in the future.

I'm flying Southwest next week.

So... I've got that going for me.

"We were in shock," passenger Debbie Downey told CNN Saturday. "We were in row 16 and my husband and I could see blue sky ... the wiring, the cabling. It actually was terrifying."

She said. "a lot of people were crying and holding hands" but had trouble hearing due to the noise of air rushing through the plane's opening. "It was very, very scary."

"Most people were just white knuckles holding onto the arm rests."

"You can see the insulation and wiring. The interior ceiling panel was bouncing up and down with the air," he said.

"I was texting my sister to make certain that she told my kids that I loved them," Reese said.


Over-reacting company, over-reacting passengers. This country is full of drama queens.

WhoIsWillo: Rapmaster2000: enry: The Flexecutioner: southwest is the only airline that know how to run an airline.

kudos, southwest.

I would also accept JetBlue.

/Delta, United, and American can rot in hell

Well, I'd expect Farkers to love their unionized Southwest airlines. Like always, unions fail at everything. That's why Southwest sucks.

I only fly nonunion airlines like Delta. You can clearly tell that they are superior when you fly with them.

You do know that every single airline is partially unionized. Flight crews, mechanics, etc. are all unionized.

Yes, but Southwest is the highest at 87%. Even the gate agents are unionized at Southwest.

At Delta, only the pilots are unionized. That's why it is a better airline. Southwest has old hag stewardesses because the union lets them keep their jobs. At Delta, they are not unionized so they are hot. Neither are the baggage handlers so the bags always make it to their destination, not like lazy union baggage handlers at Southwest who can screw up all they want and keep their jobs.

Mechanics at Delta aren't unionized. Mechanics at Southwest are. Look what happened.

Southwest Most UNION Airline (new window)

Even the machinists. I wonder why this happened?