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(My Fox DC)   Autistic photographers capture beauty at the Cherry Blossom Festival which is going on in DC for another 257 hours, 17 minutes, 37 seconds   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 36
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2011-03-31 09:38:58 AM
Hopefully they'll be done in time for Wapner...
 
2011-03-31 09:42:17 AM
If you say 'artistic' in an Australian accent it sounds like 'autistic'
 
2011-03-31 09:47:59 AM
Definitely nice photos.
 
2011-03-31 09:48:19 AM
Fark: autists managed to pull themselves away from Minecraft long enough to take photographs.
 
2011-03-31 09:50:58 AM
Eh, the photographs are nothing special but it's for a good cause I suppose...
 
2011-03-31 09:53:12 AM

Xenolith: Eh, the photographs are nothing special but it's for a good cause I suppose...


This.
 
2011-03-31 09:53:26 AM
Remarks on how lonely they must feel in 21...13...8...
 
2011-03-31 09:53:49 AM
Does autistic = mentally retarded?
 
2011-03-31 09:59:51 AM
Actually with the weather those trees are going to be well past peak bloom by Monday.
 
2011-03-31 10:05:47 AM
I am an excellent photographer...
 
2011-03-31 10:05:58 AM
What a perfect cherry blossom festival looks like:

codeutopia.net
 
2011-03-31 10:19:08 AM
Reminds me of the flowers on campus, although I don't think these are cherry blossoms. (not a botanist though).

Photo I took of said flowers.
 
2011-03-31 10:29:07 AM

Penman: Doesautistic=mentallyretarded?


your comment has 30 characters, 4 spaces, definitely 17 consonants, 11 vowels, yeah 11 vowels, one equals sign, wheel of fortune is on at 5, 'course I got jeopardy at 530, yeaaaaah.
 
2011-03-31 10:31:41 AM
Have fun with your other superhuman powers, because you certainly can't take good pictures.
 
2011-03-31 10:34:04 AM

Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?


No more than in any other population group. Just because I won't talk to you or look at you doesn't mean I can't.
 
2011-03-31 10:36:43 AM
April is Autism spectrum disorder awareness month...wear blue tomorrow!
 
2011-03-31 10:39:48 AM

radioman_: Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?

No more than in any other population group.


Incorrect. 25% of people diagnosed with autism also have other forms of mental retardation, which it should go without saying is much higher than the rate in the general population.
 
2011-03-31 10:42:14 AM

SideOfBacon: Penman: Doesautistic=mentallyretarded?

your comment has 30 characters, 4 spaces, definitely 17 consonants, 11 vowels, yeah 11 vowels, one equals sign, wheel of fortune is on at 5, 'course I got jeopardy at 530, yeaaaaah.


No, burn baby, burn baby! definitely 16 consonants, 12 vowels, yeah 12 vowels,

y is definitely a vowel in this case. definitely a vowel, yeaaaah.
 
2011-03-31 10:52:01 AM
In fifty years, if your kid isn't born autistic you'll be disappointed.
 
2011-03-31 11:01:52 AM

radioman_: No more than in any other population group. Just because I won't talk to you or look at you doesn't mean I can't.


Right, you can, you just don't want to.
 
2011-03-31 11:09:10 AM
Am I the only one bothered by the KitKat wrapper in #4?
i52.tinypic.com
 
2011-03-31 11:36:57 AM

ARC7: radioman_: Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?

No more than in any other population group.

Incorrect. 25% of people diagnosed with autism also have other forms of mental retardation, which it should go without saying is much higher than the rate in the general population.


Random statistic is random. Intellectual impairment, impairment of adaptive behavior, and age of onset are the determinative factors (new window) for a diagnosis of mental retardation. An comprehensive assessment of the intellectual impairment of autistic populations would be required to show comorbidity, and because communicative and expressive impairment is the primary indicator of autism (new window), any such assessment would be ambiguous at best.

It's easy to generalize and say someone lacks intelligence because they lack expressive skills. It's been the case for a long time that health professionals will categorize a child they're not able to test as having an intellectual impairment. It's becoming increasingly obvious that that is not necessarily the case.
 
2011-03-31 11:38:18 AM
Poor composition, lack or originality, and derivative. No concept, no story.

Good enough for flikr, or the lower level stock photo sites, but thats about it.
 
2011-03-31 11:46:26 AM

Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?


No, they are two separate diagnoses characterized by communicative/expressive impairment and intellectual impairment, respectively. I'd link to the dsm-iv-tr directly but it's behind a supscription wall- see my links above.
 
2011-03-31 11:46:59 AM

Fecal Conservative: Am I the only one bothered by the KitKat wrapper in #4?


What you're decribing is more of an OCD trait, rather than being exclusive to ASD.

To answer your question, no, you're not the only one. *twitch*
 
2011-03-31 11:49:17 AM

hypnoticus ceratophrys: ARC7: radioman_: Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?

No more than in any other population group.

Incorrect. 25% of people diagnosed with autism also have other forms of mental retardation, which it should go without saying is much higher than the rate in the general population.

Random statistic is random. Intellectual impairment, impairment of adaptive behavior, and age of onset are the determinative factors (new window) for a diagnosis of mental retardation. An comprehensive assessment of the intellectual impairment of autistic populations would be required to show comorbidity, and because communicative and expressive impairment is the primary indicator of autism (new window), any such assessment would be ambiguous at best.

It's easy to generalize and say someone lacks intelligence because they lack expressive skills. It's been the case for a long time that health professionals will categorize a child they're not able to test as having an intellectual impairment. It's becoming increasingly obvious that that is not necessarily the case.


I am autistic and intelligent. My body language and emotions do not necessarily match all the time. My communications skills in a group are awful too. Autistic does not equal retarded or insane.
 
2011-03-31 11:50:40 AM
Burning cherry trees,
Every blossom is aflame.
Uh-oh, it's the cops!
 
2011-03-31 12:15:45 PM
Award winner!

i143.photobucket.com
 
2011-03-31 12:38:06 PM

Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?


It used to.
 
2011-03-31 12:41:58 PM

Penman: Does autistic = mentally retarded?


autistic = communication area of the brain doesn't develop properly, so while they might appear normal and technically have a normal brain in every other respect, they have a different perception than "normal" people do, some to a lesser extent, while others can't speak nor understand. The best comparison would be like saying that you'd be dropped in a country that doesn't speak your language at all, and every detail of their lives and culture would be completely different than what makes sense to you, where colours wouldn't be the same, where objects would not look made for their purpose.


mentally retarded: most Farkers


/has very autistic daughter
 
2011-03-31 12:49:39 PM

EighthundredmillionthFarker: In fifty years, if your kid isn't born autistic you'll be disappointed.


The problem with this is that some people would agree.

The number of people that respond to me mentioning that my daughter is autistic is just about always followed with:

"oh wow, what's her special skills... I saw something about autistic kids and they all have super skills at something".

I usually respond..."yes actually, she very skilled at breaking bones and such if someone or something pisses her off"

Actually, stuff like this article is a big part of the problem it gives off this perception and people just assume this to be "standard"... and can't understand that for every one autistic person that is functional enough to have a hobby, there's hundreds of them that can do nothing more that rock themselves in a room, eating and possibly in diapers, staring at a blank wall.
 
2011-03-31 01:00:32 PM

imfallen_angel: EighthundredmillionthFarker: In fifty years, if your kid isn't born autistic you'll be disappointed.

The problem with this is that some people would agree.

The number of people that respond to me mentioning that my daughter is autistic is just about always followed with:

"oh wow, what's her special skills... I saw something about autistic kids and they all have super skills at something".

I usually respond..."yes actually, she very skilled at breaking bones and such if someone or something pisses her off"


because to many farkers ( and normal folks too) cannot tell the difference between a savant and an autistic.

some autistics are savants but not all, many savants are autistic but again not all by any stretch of the imagination.

// que the venn diagram for the above

// that course in abnormal psych finally paid off
// not really, i used it every day before retiring.
// after 34 years of highschool i finally got out.
 
2011-03-31 01:03:46 PM
Mudboy:
I am autistic and intelligent. My body language and emotions do not necessarily match all the time. My communications skills in a group are awful too. Autistic does not equal retarded or insane.

They aren't the same, but saying that the rate of mental retardation is the same among autistic people as among the general population requires dishonesty or a mental disability of one's own.

hypnoticus ceratophrys:
It's easy to generalize and say someone lacks intelligence because they lack expressive skills. It's been the case for a long time that health professionals will categorize a child they're not able to test as having an intellectual impairment. It's becoming increasingly obvious that that is not necessarily the case.

I did not claim it was necessarily the case. That would have been "100% of autistic people are mentally retarded" instead of "25% of autistic people are mentally retarded."

You present a good argument for why retardation among the autistic might be over-diagnosed, and I happen to agree with you. That's why I said 25% (the lowest estimate backed by research rather than "I met a guy with autism and he seemed perfectly normal") instead of other, higher frequencies more commonly cited by those who are not related to autistics or otherwise involved with autism advocacy groups.
 
2011-03-31 02:20:00 PM

ARC7: Mudboy:
I am autistic and intelligent. My body language and emotions do not necessarily match all the time. My communications skills in a group are awful too. Autistic does not equal retarded or insane.

They aren't the same, but saying that the rate of mental retardation is the same among autistic people as among the general population requires dishonesty or a mental disability of one's own.

hypnoticus ceratophrys:
It's easy to generalize and say someone lacks intelligence because they lack expressive skills. It's been the case for a long time that health professionals will categorize a child they're not able to test as having an intellectual impairment. It's becoming increasingly obvious that that is not necessarily the case.

I did not claim it was necessarily the case. That would have been "100% of autistic people are mentally retarded" instead of "25% of autistic people are mentally retarded."

You present a good argument for why retardation among the autistic might be over-diagnosed, and I happen to agree with you. That's why I said 25% (the lowest estimate backed by research rather than "I met a guy with autism and he seemed perfectly normal") instead of other, higher frequencies more commonly cited by those who are not related to autistics or otherwise involved with autism advocacy groups.


It was assumed for a long, long time that there was a high incidence of intellectual impairment in the deaf community. We now know that this is not true at all. This misconception stemmed from the faulty line of reasoning that the inability to communicate implied intellectual impairment. I hesitate to say all, but any research I have seen that tries to quantify the comorbidity of autism and mental retardation relies to a varying degree on that same line of reasoning. It follows that any statistic proposed based on such a line of reasoning is flawed, and that it cannot be conclusively stated what the incidence of mental retardation is in autistic populations in comparison to any other. This implies neither dishonesty or a mental disability of one's own, only the application of critical thought.

I'm not trying to harp on you here, I just hate seeing numbers thrown around when it really doesn't serve a constructive purpose; imo it only serves to muddy waters that are already muddied.
 
2011-03-31 02:59:54 PM
I resemble muddied muddy waters. I think many of the retarded autistic people just have not figured out a reliable way to make their minds get past their bodies so they can communicate with the world. Some will be stuck inside themselves all their lives.
 
2011-03-31 11:07:15 PM

Mudboy: I resemble muddied muddy waters. I think many of the retarded autistic people just have not figured out a reliable way to make their minds get past their bodies so they can communicate with the world. Some will be stuck inside themselves all their lives.


I gather that you don't understand how a brain works from this statement.
 
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