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(The New York Times)   Aldi has succeeded where Wal-Mart has failed, and really, isn't Aldi just Trader Joe's without marketing?   (nytimes.com) divider line 169
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2011-03-31 04:54:51 AM
The Aldi in my neighborhood is alright, I guess. When I graduated from college I was dirt broke and it was about 200 feet away from the front door of my apartment. I invested in those big canvas bags so I didn't have to deal with a cart, and could carry everything home. I really dislike buying produce or dairy products - I think the sliced cheese tastes funny, and I've found little pieces of cartilage/bone in the ground beef before. That said, it's decent for everything else... even if it does have the slight smell of my grandmother.
 
2011-03-31 04:59:48 AM

Stinkyy: fark Wal-Mart. fark Wal-Mart right in its Chinese, freedom hating ass. I hope to G_d that redneck America can liberate itself from thinking it's a great place to shop. Notice that, there are no more American-American camera dealers, toy dealers, electronics dealers, and now food dealers. Utter foreign dependence. This is not Fartbama's fault; I am only hoping for a master economist to write the treatise that will help us maintain our economic competitiveness and remove this giant farking leech of our dry American ass. Wal-Mart only exacerbates the problem, and is a giant piece of shiat.

By the way, if you're ever shopping for pet food, make sure you read the back labels. Especially the treats. Most of that shiat is made in China, and you hopefully recall a few years ago the pets that died from it. I've been to China, and for the most part, it is a giant stinking piece of toxic putrishiat.


I applaud you.
 
2011-03-31 05:44:10 AM
*Yawn* Wake me when Lidl comes to the states.
 
2011-03-31 05:46:39 AM

JonathanChance: UNC_Samurai: We've had an Aldi's here in eastern NC for almost a decade now.

A-HEM...

It's Aldi, not Aldi's.


He probably shops at Kmart's, too, founded by Waldo Kmart in 1959...
 
2011-03-31 06:48:32 AM

criscodisco: Maybe it's a different Aldi, or I'm confusing brands, but I could swear that we had an Aldi in my hometown (Warsaw, IN), and it was always a raging piece of shiat that all the poor people in town went to.

That probably sounds really spoiled and elitist, but that was just what it was known for. In fact, in high school, we used to go there because they had a shopping cart full of expired OTC drugs right by the only checkout lane. We would buy cheap boxes of Dramamine and bottles of Robutussin to get farked up on.

A few months ago someone mentioned shopping at Aldi and I was horrified. I'm in a different state now, but I guess I have always thought of Aldi as the cheap store with really crappy generic food products. Has it changed, or am I imagining something else?

I'd love to find good food cheap, and I know that we have them local.


Part of the problem with the one in Warsaw is the fact that it's located directly next to a trailer park. With a liquor store between it.
 
2011-03-31 06:50:37 AM
Aldi has a store about a mile from my house. The only thing I've been disappointed with is their ground beef (hard bits). I've seen Borden trucks there making deliveries. Ninty nine cents for a gallon of milk and forty nine cents for a dozen eggs are always a good thing. Yes, they do carry a lot of seasonal things. German chocolates and baked goods make great gifts. They do pay employees $10/hr with benefits.

Central Market in Ft Worth can be a dangerous place. Hipsters jabbering on their Apple products while blocking aisles are hazards.

Walmart is where people receiving public benefits tend to congregate.
 
2011-03-31 06:56:23 AM
The Aldi near me works with a bare-bones crew, and about half the time I shop there is nobody at the register to check me out. They work their people hard.

How do you pronounce their name? I've always said Aldi, with the accent on the first syllable. My friend says Aldi, and that just sounds weird to me.
 
2011-03-31 07:13:10 AM
we just had one open last month. didn't know what the hell it was until now. thanks fark!
 
2011-03-31 07:13:45 AM
Aldi is heavily criticized in Germany for employing the exact same labor practices as WalMart. Their business model, while somewhat different than WalMart, employs the same tactics with regard to sourcing. I have never understood how some people can so ignorantly profess to hating WallyWorld while saying Aldi treats their employees better.

As for WalMart's failure in Germany, their biggest mistake was not understanding and exploiting the opportunity to sell many US-style goods to Germans. Instead, they tried to sell Germans the same old shiat they were getting from Wertkauf and they couldn't compete with the discounters on price.
 
2011-03-31 07:15:23 AM

criscodisco: A few months ago someone mentioned shopping at Aldi and I was horrified. I'm in a different state now, but I guess I have always thought of Aldi as the cheap store with really crappy generic food products. Has it changed, or am I imagining something else?


I've never really understood it either and I know a lot of people who shop there. I only really like it for chocolate, tomato paste, and some junk food. Otherwise the store I am familiar with is full of generic, processed crap.
 
2011-03-31 07:20:27 AM
I've never seen the attraction to Aldi. There stuff all looks like crap and the selection sucks.

Walmart? Why? Everyone says that groceries are cheaper there, but I find they tend to be more expensive than my supermarket - especially if there is a sale. "Great price 24 pack soda $3" Ok, at least once a month that's on sale at the local Shoprite for $2 to $2.50.
 
2011-03-31 07:32:28 AM

madgonad: On the positive side, their cheese is okay, as are their canned goods (bland) and some boxed goods (bland). The best reason to shop at Aldi is for their chocolate. Seriously, they bring in the average German chocolate and sell it cheap. FYI, average German chocolates are better than anything produced in bulk in the US (except boutique chocolates, small US producers like Christopher Elbow are still awesome).


I go there for the chocolate too...but I lived in Germany for awhile - ate a LOT of chocolate - and have never seen the brands that are at Aldi. In Germany the brands I mostly saw were Ritter and Kinder. Either way, chocolate at Aldi = good.
 
2011-03-31 07:34:58 AM
Having lived in a state where we could shop at Aldi, and now, where we cannot shop at Aldi, we have considered making sure our next move will be to a place that will allow us to shop at Aldi. It's that much cheaper.
 
2011-03-31 07:45:03 AM
I'm worried that if I move out of Florida, I'll have to shop somewhere other than Publix and Whole Foods.



/Aldi within walking distance
//never been
///cheapass roommate shops there, though
 
2011-03-31 07:46:33 AM
Aldi is badly known, in Europe, for the way in which they work their people.
 
2011-03-31 07:47:30 AM

LOGICAL_PSYCHO: JonathanChance:
A-HEM...



It's Aldi, not Aldi's. Aldi is an acronym for Albrecht Discount, There is no farking person named Aldi who owns the farking store or buisness, thus no need for the possesive "'s"

/one of those things that drives drive's me up a wall.

AMEN to that!!

FTFY
/pet peave

 
2011-03-31 07:55:52 AM
Ive never been to an Aldi back home, but that photo does not resemble the dismal shiatholes that they (and 98.5% of all other german 'supermarkets' are) look like over her in Der Vaterland.
 
2011-03-31 08:04:09 AM
Never heard of them until I saw the headline. Thanks?
 
2011-03-31 08:04:44 AM

criscodisco: Maybe it's a different Aldi, or I'm confusing brands, but I could swear that we had an Aldi in my hometown (Warsaw, IN), and it was always a raging piece of shiat that all the poor people in town went to.

That probably sounds really spoiled and elitist, but that was just what it was known for. In fact, in high school, we used to go there because they had a shopping cart full of expired OTC drugs right by the only checkout lane. We would buy cheap boxes of Dramamine and bottles of Robutussin to get farked up on.

A few months ago someone mentioned shopping at Aldi and I was horrified. I'm in a different state now, but I guess I have always thought of Aldi as the cheap store with really crappy generic food products. Has it changed, or am I imagining something else?

I'd love to find good food cheap, and I know that we have them local.


I have an Aldi in my town. I assure you, the scum and villany I have encountered at Wal-Mart is much worse.
 
2011-03-31 08:05:10 AM

oldebayer: Bessame: But if you are into high quality cheeses....man, they are the best

Not even remotely close. I recently had a cousin visit Trader Joe's in Palm SDesert, gave her a list of cheeses, and she could find only one. I drove over three hundred mles to Ft. Worth, TX, to the Central market, and found an entire wall full of cheesses, and another full of beer, an another full of... well, you get the idea.

Trade Joes is like 7-11 compared to Central Market. Or, in Ohio, if you are anywhere near Cincinatti, Jungle Jim's.


*Lives 2 blocks from JJ's*

I rarely shop there though unless i'm wanting specialty items. $4 for a gallon of milk is rediculous, but i suppose they have to make a profit for holding onto those rare items

I also live equal distance between 2 Aldis, and honestly, i haven't been to either of them because the aldi i HAVE been to are shiat holes, and i don't really see either of these 2 meing any different since they are both nestled into the low income minority sections of town where the Krogers accross the street hire police to keep the peace...

Though i might stop in after reading this thread just to take a peep at what they got.

My wife's insanely overweight friends used to shop at aldi until they got costco and sam's club memberships... now they do their weekly bulk shopping at those places...
 
2011-03-31 08:07:56 AM
as someone who moved to the east coast back in Aug., I've never heard Aldi until recently. I thought they were like a dollar store that sold groceries. Seriously.
 
2011-03-31 08:10:50 AM
When I was in college my roommates and I did 95% of our grocery shopping at Aldi. It was cheap, easy, and we didn't eat anything too fancy. The main exception to this was if we were cooking or barbecuing some meat. Aldi meat always looked not quite right to us.

And we ignored the alcohol Aldi stocked, of course. We bought some Aldi beer and wine out of curiosity one time. Some of the worst crap I've ever had.
 
2011-03-31 08:13:38 AM

Texas Gabe: Greenlight credit should go to The Consumerist because this is basically their headline.


The Consumerist will be given no quarter on Fark!

We need that quarter in order to rent a cart at Aldi.
 
2011-03-31 08:14:45 AM
I used to shop at Aldi until I got a piece of Band-Aid in my canned green beans. I just couldn't go back. I find I do just as well shopping the sales at the other stores.
 
2011-03-31 08:18:30 AM
The Fairsley difference. (new window)

/homeless people don't defecate in THEIR stores.
 
2011-03-31 08:21:30 AM
They actually have some of these in my area, I've never really given it much notice beyond finding it odd that the VW set and the rusted hood cars seemed an odd combination for a parking lot. Guess I'll give it a try.

It's tough breaking away from shopping at Publix though.
 
2011-03-31 08:42:08 AM

TheMega: Will drink it black over using another creamer


I once dated a girl who drank her hot coffee black, and she'd make iced coffee and add creamer to that. She kept it in the fridge in bulk. Good stuff.
 
2011-03-31 08:43:57 AM
Aldi's is the place that takes food stamps but not credit cards, if I'm not mistaken. My girlfriend wanted to go in one about a year ago and I told her that she absolutely did not. She went anyhow, only bought a couple things and said the prices weren't any less than elsewhere. Then when she went to pay, she was lucky to have some cash on her because, as I said, they don't take credit cards. After paying, she asked for a bag to put the food in and got a weird look. Apparently you have to pay for every bag you use. She hasn't been back since.
 
2011-03-31 08:45:53 AM

jxb465: Aldi's is the place that takes food stamps but not credit cards, if I'm not mistaken. My girlfriend wanted to go in one about a year ago and I told her that she absolutely did not. She went anyhow, only bought a couple things and said the prices weren't any less than elsewhere. Then when she went to pay, she was lucky to have some cash on her because, as I said, they don't take credit cards. After paying, she asked for a bag to put the food in and got a weird look. Apparently you have to pay for every bag you use. She hasn't been back since.


If not being able to pay with credit card and paying for bags shocks you, dont go to europe ever.
 
2011-03-31 09:08:55 AM
I really just think that there have to be good Aldi and bad ones. The local ones are like a circle of hell, where the milk expires tomorrow and everything is stale.
I'll go there for produce when the farmer's market's not open and I need something like carrots or celery, where brand really doesn't matter.
 
2011-03-31 09:09:36 AM
aldi and central market in the same sentence? really? they are on distantly opposite ends of the grocery spectrum!

central market is one of those foodie paradise stores. yes you can do pretty good buying from their large selection of bulk dry goods (beans, granolas, cereals, grains, etc), and they have a wide range of price levels on things like wine/beer, cereal, etc...but mostly they are known for having pretty much any meat cheese and specialty items you want, if you can afford them.

aldi is where we've been buying the majority of our daily groceries since they opened here last year. not the best quality on everything, but most of their items are just as good as the name brand stuff...only 3 or 4 items we've tried there are on our "don't buy at aldi" list. the milk has gone up to $1.19/gal (walmart is $1 more for store brand now), eggs are something like $0.69/doz i think (wm is more than $1), cereal is cheap and good, frozen things we keep for those "other" meals (fend for yourself 'cause momma ain't cookin'!) are cheap and good (like 6 frozen individual deep dish pizzas for just under $5 that are, i swear, red barrons which sell for almost $7 at wm)

and yes, the CHOCOLATE! i have 2 local german stores that sell good selections of kinder, ritter, and milka, but they cost a good bit more too due to them being imported...aldi's store brands are almost as good for a lot cheaper!
 
2011-03-31 09:12:31 AM

Ebbelwoi: As for WalMart's failure in Germany, their biggest mistake was not understanding and exploiting the opportunity to sell many US-style goods to Germans. Instead, they tried to sell Germans the same old shiat they were getting from Wertkauf and they couldn't compete with the discounters on price.


That, and the fact that when they did sell US-style goods they were poorly chosen, such as running specials on pillow cases that were sized for American-style pillows (which are half the size of the pillows Germans normally use for beds).
 
2011-03-31 09:12:44 AM
Early '90's I was living in upstate NY. With three small kids and a teensy income I adored Aldi. Had never been on food stamps before (or since) and I was like the proverbial kid in a candy store making those dollars stretch there. Took me years when heading out to grocery shop to get over needing to remember to take a quarter with me for the cart. Whomever posted the link to their site, thanks! Seems that they're having a recruiting drive here in September. Fingers crossed we'll finally get one. I know I'll shop there. Opposite end of the spectrum now with three young adults that can eat like there's no tomorrow. Must remember to take cash. Oh yeah, and a quarter.
 
2011-03-31 09:16:52 AM

Mi-go amigo: Ebbelwoi: As for WalMart's failure in Germany, their biggest mistake was not understanding and exploiting the opportunity to sell many US-style goods to Germans. Instead, they tried to sell Germans the same old shiat they were getting from Wertkauf and they couldn't compete with the discounters on price.

That, and the fact that when they did sell US-style goods they were poorly chosen, such as running specials on pillow cases that were sized for American-style pillows (which are half the size of the pillows Germans normally use for beds).


i went to walmart 2 or 3 times in germany when i was stationed at ramstein 1998-2002. for one thing the nearest one to me was like 20 miles away, and REAL- markt was about 3 miles away, karstadt about 7 miles (dept. store that has some specialty groceries/foods), and lidl, penny markt, etc were all over the place.

last time i was in germany (2004) wm was having their 5th anniversary celebration. i think they closed the next year?
 
2011-03-31 09:24:57 AM

bungle_jr: i went to walmart 2 or 3 times in germany when i was stationed at ramstein 1998-2002. for one thing the nearest one to me was like 20 miles away, and REAL- markt was about 3 miles away, karstadt about 7 miles (dept. store that has some specialty groceries/foods), and lidl, penny markt, etc were all over the place.

last time i was in germany (2004) wm was having their 5th anniversary celebration. i think they closed the next year?


They all just became REALs anyway, wallmart didnt work because of numerous cultural issues - treating german workers who are used to protections like wallmart workers in america, having people bag their food (drives krauts crazy), wrong product selection, etc. etc. etc.

Had they done their integration right it would have been a smashing success, nothing makes the krauts happier than pinching pennies by buying poor quality lebensmittel.
 
2011-03-31 09:36:25 AM
darkscout
They also have the fastest swipers anywhere.

They were the last grocery chain to install barcode scanners at the registers here in Germany; allegedly they had trained their cashiers in a way that swiping everything took more time than just looking at the goods while simultaneously typing in the prices.
 
2011-03-31 09:36:43 AM

lilplatinum: bungle_jr: i went to walmart 2 or 3 times in germany when i was stationed at ramstein 1998-2002. for one thing the nearest one to me was like 20 miles away, and REAL- markt was about 3 miles away, karstadt about 7 miles (dept. store that has some specialty groceries/foods), and lidl, penny markt, etc were all over the place.

last time i was in germany (2004) wm was having their 5th anniversary celebration. i think they closed the next year?

They all just became REALs anyway, wallmart didnt work because of numerous cultural issues - treating german workers who are used to protections like wallmart workers in america, having people bag their food (drives krauts crazy), wrong product selection, etc. etc. etc.

Had they done their integration right it would have been a smashing success, nothing makes the krauts happier than pinching pennies by buying poor quality lebensmittel.


calling them "krauts" tends to drive them crazy as well
 
2011-03-31 09:38:57 AM

JonathanChance: UNC_Samurai: We've had an Aldi's here in eastern NC for almost a decade now. It's great for dry goods, some produce, bread, frozen meats, and milk and orange juice. I tend to avoid their meat section, though. I like shopping there not only because of the prices, but because they don't treat their employees like shiat, like the big blue monster up the road.

A-HEM...



It's Aldi, not Aldi's. Aldi is an acronym for Albrecht Discount, There is no farking person named Aldi who owns the farking store or buisness, thus no need for the possesive "'s"

/one of those things that drives me up a wall.


Well excuse the fark out of me, you worthless little wankstick.
 
2011-03-31 09:41:19 AM
We love Aldi. But our Aldi is not the same as the Aldi my grandparents had 20 plus years ago. Their store has improved immensely over the years.

One thing we have notice locally in poor areas that they have open new stores -- the customers destroy and treat them like shiat. We have shopped at 6 different stores in the St. Louis area. All the stores get the same things, same quality. The customers are not the same! When you are in the hood, no matter how good the employees or company is they locals can trash a place :(
 
2011-03-31 09:41:58 AM

UNC_Samurai: JonathanChance: UNC_Samurai: We've had an Aldi's here in eastern NC for almost a decade now. It's great for dry goods, some produce, bread, frozen meats, and milk and orange juice. I tend to avoid their meat section, though. I like shopping there not only because of the prices, but because they don't treat their employees like shiat, like the big blue monster up the road.

A-HEM...



It's Aldi, not Aldi's. Aldi is an acronym for Albrecht Discount, There is no farking person named Aldi who owns the farking store or buisness, thus no need for the possesive "'s"

/one of those things that drives me up a wall.

Well excuse the fark out of me, you worthles's little wankstick.


that peeve is a pet of mine
 
2011-03-31 09:44:30 AM
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2011-03-31 09:53:15 AM

criscodisco: Maybe it's a different Aldi, or I'm confusing brands, but I could swear that we had an Aldi in my hometown (Warsaw, IN), and it was always a raging piece of shiat that all the poor people in town went to.

That probably sounds really spoiled and elitist, but that was just what it was known for. In fact, in high school, we used to go there because they had a shopping cart full of expired OTC drugs right by the only checkout lane. We would buy cheap boxes of Dramamine and bottles of Robutussin to get farked up on.

A few months ago someone mentioned shopping at Aldi and I was horrified. I'm in a different state now, but I guess I have always thought of Aldi as the cheap store with really crappy generic food products. Has it changed, or am I imagining something else?

I'd love to find good food cheap, and I know that we have them local.


The Aldi stores near me are all like that. I'd go to the seething pit of scum that is Walmart before I would go to an Aldi.
 
2011-03-31 09:54:45 AM
Man if anyone thinks Aldi is the same thing as Trader Joe's then it's time to give up the ghost. Aldi is where food goes to die...
 
2011-03-31 09:55:45 AM
lilplatinum
having people bag their food (drives krauts crazy)

Kaiser's (Tengelmann) tried that here back then, too; had some high-school kids in store shirts offering to help with bagging and carrying stuff.
Almost everybody declined and so it didn't last very long.
I know people who, with 3-4 stores of other chains within walking distance, went there less often because it annoyed them.

From what I figured, it was a mixture of not being used to it, "Am I supposed to tip them or something?" and a feeling of "What would that look like? I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself!" when being asked.

I guess the main problem with that was asking people if they wanted the help. A more successful way to introduce something like that in Germany would probably be to force it on people: don't ask them, just grab their stuff and bag it without giving them the time to think about it.
- You know, make it mandatory and force them to opt-out instead of offering the choice to opt-in. Make them follow orders. ;)
 
2011-03-31 09:59:33 AM

darkscout: They also have the fastest swipers anywhere. No bagging. It's the best of 'Self Checkout' and having someone that gets paid to do it.


There was once an ad for Aldi in the Detroit area that said those cashiers could make $22/hour. No wonder they're damned good.
 
2011-03-31 10:01:09 AM
They built an Aldi in my town. I went to check it out but it smelled of poor
 
2011-03-31 10:03:06 AM

altinos: darkscout: They also have the fastest swipers anywhere. No bagging. It's the best of 'Self Checkout' and having someone that gets paid to do it.

There was once an ad for Aldi in the Detroit area that said those cashiers could make $22/hour. No wonder they're damned good.


here in the dfw mid-cities we've learned that you place your heaviest/bulkiest items on the belt first, anything fragile last, because the cashiers tend to be so fast, just basically throwing everything into the shopping cart...so if you have fragiles going first, they can get smashed. some cashiers are much more conscious of this, and take an extra couple of seconds segregating items
 
2011-03-31 10:03:20 AM
Good point, subby. Also, Mustangs are really just Maseratis without the fancy name.
 
2011-03-31 10:06:48 AM

bungle_jr: here in the dfw mid-cities we've learned that you place your heaviest/bulkiest items on the belt first, anything fragile last, because the cashiers tend to be so fast, just basically throwing everything into the shopping cart...so if you have fragiles going first, they can get smashed. some cashiers are much more conscious of this, and take an extra couple of seconds segregating items


Never had that problem when I shopped there often. I did note that I saw the same cashiers for years, so I guess if they're making the huge bucks they stick around and do a good job.
 
2011-03-31 10:10:47 AM

altinos: bungle_jr: here in the dfw mid-cities we've learned that you place your heaviest/bulkiest items on the belt first, anything fragile last, because the cashiers tend to be so fast, just basically throwing everything into the shopping cart...so if you have fragiles going first, they can get smashed. some cashiers are much more conscious of this, and take an extra couple of seconds segregating items

Never had that problem when I shopped there often. I did note that I saw the same cashiers for years, so I guess if they're making the huge bucks they stick around and do a good job.


i think they started around the $10/hr range here...? which is really good for unskilled customer service in the dfw area! as far as cities/metros go, dfw is a VERY inexpensive area, but that also means wages aren't as high as in some of the more expensive metros
 
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