Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

MeinRS6: Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

Are they going to train the rebels on how to use them as well?

I wonder if they'll learn the third time a steady advance works best. Logistics, how the fark do they work?

I shouldn't be laughing at this but I couldn't help myself while watching the NBC Nightly News last night. They did a report showing the rebels fleeing as Daffy's troops moved in and it looked like the land rush scene in Far and Away only with cars and trucks. It was farking hilarious.

This is a total clusterfark. Gaddafi isn't falling like the coalition thought he would, in fact, they are going to have to arm and train the rebels, which is going to take months, and could have seriously negative consequences (because we don't know who the fark they are, we're just assuming they're the good guys).

I was pretty neutral on the strikes to begin with, but looking at it now... oh boy are we farked.

dj_bigbird: Really? An untrained, unmotivated rabble is getting is ass kicked by a well-trained, motivated, well-equipped army? Huh. Wow. Will wonders never cease.

Huh, before the Bombing for Peace and Great Justice campaign began wasn't this "army" no more than a bunch of mercenaries who had no motivation beyond money and who would flee at the first sign of the mighty coalition?

Now, they're well-trained, motivated and well-equipped. What gives?

Makes you wonder what those US Marines being deployed off the Libyan coast are really for.

Give and take in an armed conflict? The only possible explanation for this sort of unprecedented event is a failure on the part of the Fartbama administration's foreign policy stance.

Richard Engel is doing a report right now on NBC and talking about how he witnessed the rebels firing a rocket today. Instead of shooting it towards the enemy, it flew backwards into the town they were defending.

In other words, we have Marines on the ground.

It'll be pretty funny when the rebels are obliterated. I'm going to be amused watching the show that follows.

I hope they all die and Qadaffi wins so that Obama looks bad. Vote Republican

Guess it's time to put boots on the ground huh. USA! ALL THE WAY!

We broke it too, so now I guess we also have to buy it. Good thing we have a budget surplus from clint-- oh... nevermind. Forgot about Iraq and Aphganistan. We blew a load of trillions of dollars there.

You know who also lost a war on 3 fronts?

shower_in_my_socks: Next week's headline: Rebels retake cities across eastern Lybia.

A week later: Rebels retreat, appear beaten.

Another week later: Rebels retake cities across eastern Lybia.


It sounds to me like the rebels overextended themselves after allied bombing opened things up for them. They blitzed without the krieg.

Well, it's in the MSM's (I hate the term but what else is there?) interest to make this appear as unprecedented as possible.

A good number of these "rebels" are former Libyan military. They're not totally inexperienced idiots, but they're also unlikely to have had significant live-fire experience against an equal-or-better force in large numbers. Book learnin' vs practical experience could be an issue here, as you say.

ZAZ: naval barrages

If we declare a "no sail" zone the Navy will get its first chance to sink something big in a long time.

When was the last time the U.S. Navy sank something in the warship class instead of the raft class?

The U.S.S. Oriskiny, oh right. That was the Discovery Channel.

muck4doo: MeinRS6: Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

Are they going to train the rebels on how to use them as well?

Point muzzle towards Gadafi and his cohorts. Pull trigger.

Gyrfalcon: It's not a retreat, it's an operative maneuver in retrograde.

Your apt understanding of man made disaster makers in the midst of our overseas contingency operation has made a kinetic impact beginning in my stomach and it has reverberated throughout my vocal cords. It is as refreshing as the Oddysey dawn.

/+1 for you too, subby. I also lold.

All you anti-war Obama-naughts out there, sorry your guy lied to you. Will you let him get away with it and just fall in line like good little sheeple or are you going to go 3rd or 4th party next election? Do you really care about peace or just beating republicans in elections? It is all a matter of priorities and values.

rka: dj_bigbird: Really? An untrained, unmotivated rabble is getting is ass kicked by a well-trained, motivated, well-equipped army? Huh. Wow. Will wonders never cease.

Huh, before the Bombing for Peace and Great Justice campaign began wasn't this "army" no more than a bunch of mercenaries who had no motivation beyond money and who would flee at the first sign of the mighty coalition?

Now, they're well-trained, motivated and well-equipped. What gives?

Makes you wonder what those US Marines being deployed off the Libyan coast are really for.

Like always, they are waiting until the MSM can help Obummer create a "mandate" to "Do Something!"

Clearly a Kinetic Withdrawal Action

"On Wednesday the road was thronged by a rabble of rebel militia and cars over laden with bedding and civilians, frantic to escape the path of rockets from Gaddafi loyalists."

Waiting to see if the pro-quoqbag forces venture out unto the field of doom... lol.

Mogani: "On Wednesday the road was thronged by a rabble of rebel militia and cars over laden with bedding and civilians, frantic to escape the path of rockets from Gaddafi loyalists."

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Oh, I misread that, I thought it was

France will arm the rebels, since they aren't part of NATO the U.S. can say they did it without our ok.

stupid bullshiat.

So what happens if this rebel uprising ends up getting quashed? I'm pretty sure Gadhafi isn't going to look at our air strikes, aggressive stances, and harsh criticism and laugh it off and continue being friends with us.

You can be damn sure if he doesn't get overthrown, we're going to see a new (once thought old) breed of terrorist being made in Libya with their sights set on western countries that helped the rebel forces. Probably starting with whatever country decided to lead the strike.

You can also expect Gadhafi to try once again to acquire a nuke. And this time maybe he'll have the balls to use it, now that we know he has a martyr mentality, and now that we've shown him that he can be in a position to be overthrown. And that the rest of the nuclear-armed countries want to see him gone.

But all of that doesn't matter, right? The rebels are going to win and the entire people of Libya will want to be our friends forever and ever and sel us cheap oil and offer to produce vacation packages for their friends in the west, and there will be no consequences whatsoever for choosing sides in this crisis, right?

Right?

muck4doo: MeinRS6: Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

Are they going to train the rebels on how to use them as well?

Hopefully not. Could be somewhat entertaining.

Spanky_McFarksalot: France will arm the rebels, since they aren't part of NATO the U.S. can say they did it without our ok.

France re-joined NATO's military council in 1995 and fully rejoined NATO in 2009.

So any French arms funneled to the rebels will be under the auspices of NATO (and ultimately American command).

Viva la France!

Who gives a flying fark? What makes anyone think this bunch will be any better than Gadaffi's bunch?

Blairr: muck4doo: MeinRS6: Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

Are they going to train the rebels on how to use them as well?

Hopefully not. Could be somewhat entertaining.

to add: Link

When does the UN declare a no walking zone for kaddafi?

Suede head: Who gives a flying fark? What makes anyone think this bunch will be any better than Gadaffi's bunch?

COLONEL
Don't you love your country?

JOKER
Yes, sir.

COLONEL
Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?

JOKER
Yes, sir!

COLONEL
Son, all I've ever asked of my marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese Libyans, because inside every gook rebel there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.

JOKER
Aye-aye, sir.

rka: Suede head: Who gives a flying fark? What makes anyone think this bunch will be any better than Gadaffi's bunch?

COLONEL
Don't you love your country?

JOKER
Yes, sir.

COLONEL
Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?

JOKER
Yes, sir!

COLONEL
Son, all I've ever asked of my marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese Libyans, because inside every gook rebel there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.

JOKER
Aye-aye, sir.

I thought that was a general.

This will not be like Iraq. Hope & Change will make the difference.

They just need a little Hope and Change. That should solve their troubles.

nirvana: muck4doo: MeinRS6: Obama and the French will have some ships full of arms into Benghazi soon enough. Then we can sit back and watch the afternoon delight.

Are they going to train the rebels on how to use them as well?

Point muzzle towards Gadafi and his cohorts. Pull trigger.

Oh, is that all there is to it? Give them the works then.

Here's (new window) a report that sheds some light on who our new Libyan "friends" might be. Regardless of whether we went in to this with the best of intentions or rank self-interest, we shouldn't fool ourselves about the potential risks of involving ourselves in a place we don't bother to know much about.

bartink: I thought that was a general.

Referred to as "Colonel" here. (new window)

I think the guy who played him was even Canadian.

Heron: Here's (new window) a report that sheds some light on who our new Libyan "friends" might be. Regardless of whether we went in to this with the best of intentions or rank self-interest, we shouldn't fool ourselves about the potential risks of involving ourselves in a place we don't bother to know much about.

Insurgents ally themselves with people who have the funds to aid their insurgency. It was Al Qaeda, now it's the UN/NATO.

News at 11.

epoc_tnac: This is a total clusterfark. Gaddafi isn't falling like the coalition thought he would, in fact, they are going to have to arm and train the rebels, which is going to take months, and could have seriously negative consequences (because we don't know who the fark they are, we're just assuming they're the good guys).

I was pretty neutral on the strikes to begin with, but looking at it now... oh boy are we farked.

Either those "analysts" we have in D.C. need to be replaced, or our dumbass-stubborn politicians need to start friggin listening to what they have to say, because this sort of thing is becoming alarmingly common.

I'm getting the feeling that any help we give the rebels is just delaying the inevitable. I just plain don't think they're strong enough to pull it off whether we help or not.

Forget comparing it to Afghanistan, forget comparing it to Rwanda as I've heard. I'm starting to think this ends like Somalia. We go in, give it a go, but we just plain lose right along with the people we're trying to help.

jdmac: All you anti-war Obama-naughts out there, sorry your guy lied to you. Will you let him get away with it and just fall in line like good little sheeple or are you going to go 3rd or 4th party next election? Do you really care about peace or just beating republicans in elections? It is all a matter of priorities and values.


Bill Kristol Lauds Obama as 'Born-Again Neocon'

Did somebody FART? What is that odor?