A wise man once said, "when you hit bottom, stop digging". Somebody needs to take away Obama's shovel.

Wendy's Chili: I like how 75% of Americans were pro-no-fly zone until there was actually a no-fly zone. Now it's at like 40%.

"You people are nothing but a bunch of fickle mushheads!"
"Hey, he's right! Give us hell, Quimby!"

ThatGuyGreg: Dusk-You-n-Me: And he'll still be re-elected.

LIKE A BOSS

*sigh* This.

For the love of God, GOP, nominate someone worth a shiat.

Anyone worth a shiat has either left the party, left politics, or glanced a Muslim once and thus is for Sharia law.

ThatGuyGreg: Dusk-You-n-Me: And he'll still be re-elected.

LIKE A BOSS

*sigh* This.

For the love of God, GOP, nominate someone worth a shiat.

Think of ratings the debates will get. The RNC will be able to fund campaigns just off the ad revenue they get. Plus MTV might pick them up to show after Teen Mom.

Quick question - what were the approval ratings of Bill Clinton in March 1995 and Ronald Reagan (Piss Be Upon Him) in March 1983?

ThatGuyGreg: For the love of God, GOP, nominate someone worth a shiat.

*snort*

They're going to nominate Palin.

Barbigazi: BillCo: A wise man once said, "when you hit bottom, stop digging". Somebody needs to take away Obama's shovel.

41% approve is "bottom".

Oh, I'm sure he can (and will) go lower.

/ Bareback Fartbongo

Some Bass Playing Guy: This what you get when you let morons be polled.

By morons, I assume you mean anyone who isn't an Obama fanboy?

Get over yourself.

He can't hear the polls over how awesome he is.

BillCo: A wise man once said, "when you hit bottom, stop digging". Somebody needs to take away Obama's shovel.

The phrase is 'when you're in a hole stop digging'.

I assume you're just emulating W...

savage henry: BillCo: A wise man once said, "when you hit bottom, stop digging". Somebody needs to take away Obama's shovel.

The phrase is 'when you're in a hole stop digging'.

I assume you're just emulating W...

can't get fooled again...

Maybe he should take off his apple bottom jeans and the boots with the fur.

HawgWild: I just think President Obama is about to pull a President Bartlett. Bartlett's numbers were around this level during his second year. But then someone shot him and his numbers went back ...

Wait a second!

Let Obama be Obama!

Mike_LowELL: So let me get this straight: The country wanted to intervene in Libya and now that they have done it they are opposed to it? What the hell?

We are the idiots the "Don't put your baby in the clothes dryer" warning label was created for.

I guess even you and your liberal cronies have found the light at the end of love with our beloved president. The intellectuals have been much agitated and now, having gotten the presidency by exploiting the problems they themselves have manufactured, he has done his best to fuel their anxieties about him. Will you and your pack of bleeding heart liberals never learn that expanding welfare roles only accelerate inflation and inevitably hurt most those they purport to help?

everything is aligning correctly for Hillary to resign and run for President after Obama fails in Libya.

After Americans soured on Iraq and Afghanistan for not having a mission, what made Obama think he could go into Libya without an achievable mission?

Repeatedly asking Gaddafi to leave is not a strategy and nothing we're doing is seriously imperiling his grip on power. You have to offer incentives for someone like that to leave and when he gains 200km in a day due to the US refusing to provide air cover to the rebels, then he has no incentive to leave.

Essentially the Gaddafi strategy involves fighting a guerrilla war and making his forces impossible to hit from the air.

So what's Obama gonna do now?

Anything short of Gaddafi leaving is a failure and will reflect badly on Obama's 2012 hopes.

Holy shiat, there's been a McCainDemocrat sighting! I thought he was just myth!

GaryPDX: oldfarthenry: Where's Gary?
(Oh, right! He's probably too busy masturbating to type.)

No, I was over in the legalize cannabis thread..:)

I notice you didn't deny you were busy masturbating...

Now he won't get asked to the Sadie Hawkins dance.

McCainDemocrat: everything is aligning correctly for Hillary to resign and run for President after Obama fails in Libya.

Shouldn't you be traveling?

Mike_LowELL: So let me get this straight: The country wanted to intervene in Libya and now that they have done it they are opposed to it? What the hell?

independents are farking morons, thats why!

/liberal independent
//also a moron

Easy go, easy come. Numbers are artificially depressed due to recent non-stellar news in Libya. People will forget Libya even exists within a month or so, and things will be roughly back to normal.

Wendy's Chili: I like how 75% of Americans were pro-no-fly zone until there was actually a no-fly zone. Now it's at like 40%.


It's as if 35% of Americans are going to be against Obama no matter what he does.

GaryPDX: What about "No" don't you understand?

I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me.

/also it was a joke

McCainDemocrat: So what's Obama gonna do now?

arm the rebels through the french?

GaryPDX:

What about "No" don't you understand?

Headso: arm the rebels through the french?

The same Rebels who run away at the first sign of trouble?

I wouldn't give shiny expensive weapons to a force that has problems with holding their ground.

Also, if you believe the rebel forces, they're also facing 3000 Chadians. To add to the thousands of Gaddafi revolutionary guards and assorted other forces.

So they're outmanned and outgunned.

What's Obama gonna do to have any success in Libya?

Just arming the rebels is symbolic and meaningless. You have to do something tangible.

Is it... still mid-40's?

*reads article*

Ayup.

GaryPDX: Headso: McCainDemocrat: So what's Obama gonna do now?

arm the rebels through the french?

What if the "rebels" actually turn out to be radical jihadists and Al Qaeda?

/oops

Fox News would climax?

Just stop trying to appease right wingers, there is no value in it.

McCainDemocrat: The same Rebels who run away at the first sign of trouble?

McCainDemocrat: outgunned.

yeah, the rebels who are currently outgunned.

GaryPDX: LarryDan43: GaryPDX: What if the "rebels" actually turn out to be radical jihadists and Al Qaeda?

/oops

Fox News would climax?

Media Matters would go into bunker defense mode?

At the least, they'd break out the ponchos.

Dear Fellow Democrats,

He's doing the right thing. Stop playing worrying about the wording! For fark's sake.

GaryPDX: Headso: McCainDemocrat: So what's Obama gonna do now?

arm the rebels through the french?

What if the "rebels" actually turn out to be radical jihadists and Al Qaeda?

/oops

then they will overthrow merica and make you wear a burka and press 1 for Spanish.

Calmamity: BillCo: Obama fanboy?

I see you do this in threads all the time.

Do you see anyone here who is behaving like an "Obama fanboy"? Fu*king ANYONE?!

The closest you're going to find is tepid support of the idea that he is doing a mediocre job.


muck4doo: He can't hear the polls over how awesome he is.


I don't think a comment on my part is necessary.

Weird how the gold standard of right leaning (2-3% pts.)polling orgs, Gallup, just shows a bump of 3% points up to 48%in one day, where he has not been in weeks...so let's base a whole narrative on one poll from a fairly obscure polling outfit, and then if we're lucky we can get Scott Rasmussen to chime in with one of his completely made up polls to CONfirm Quinnipiacs outlier of a poll. Then we'll hear that he's unelectable...overandoverandoverandoverandover.

AdolfOliverPanties: what_now: AdolfOliverPanties: Meanwhile the unfavorable numbers for the Tea Party are around 47% so it isn't like Obama has anything to worry about.

what_now: we're still happier with him that we have been with any other president in 30 years.

More than Clinton? I'd take the Big Dog over Obama any day. Someone craps in Clinton's face and he will clean it off, add some piss to it and throw it right back.

Yeah, Clinton's health care reform was....

Oh right.

Is it a one issue thing with you? I can understand if HCR is VERY important to you. I am glad for the things that Obama has gotten done, but he acquiesces to the GOP too much IMO.

Like I've said, Democrats are weak and Republicans are farking lunatics, so we are farked either way.

I just wish Obama had more backbone sometimes.

Is it fair to compare Obama to Clinton one way or another before he's served a second term?

BillCo: Calmamity: BillCo: Obama fanboy?

I see you do this in threads all the time.

Do you see anyone here who is behaving like an "Obama fanboy"? Fu*king ANYONE?!

The closest you're going to find is tepid support of the idea that he is doing a mediocre job.


muck4doo: He can't hear the polls over how awesome he is.


I don't think a comment on my part is necessary.

You do know that muck4doo is not an Obama supporter and was being sarcastic do you dumbass?

Headso: McCainDemocrat: The same Rebels who run away at the first sign of trouble?

McCainDemocrat: outgunned.

yeah, the rebels who are currently outgunned.

The Rebel Alliance was severely outgunned, but look what they pulled off at Yavin and Endor!

culebra: another

"the other", natch

AdolfOliverPanties: watch when the job numbers come out, it is good news

I'm a headhunter in Florida and we are having the best month since this started, and I'm talking about 2007-2008 when we first started feeling it.

All of my clients are picking up, this is very good.

/posting between interviews

Wendy's Chili: I like how 75% of Americans were pro-no-fly zone until there was actually a no-fly zone. Now it's at like 40%.

Bingo. I consider myself a liberal and am baffled at the opposition to this no-fly zone. Republicans seem to oppose it because Obama is in charge and most of my fellow liberals seem to be shifting because... well, I don't know why. They're behaving like a bunch of annoying hippies.

Barbigazi: DrD'isInfotainment: Weird how the gold standard of right leaning (2-3% pts.)polling orgs, Gallup, just shows a bump of 3% points up to 48%in one day, where he has not been in weeks...so let's base a whole narrative on one poll from a fairly obscure polling outfit, and then if we're lucky we can get Scott Rasmussen to chime in with one of his completely made up polls to CONfirm Quinnipiacs outlier of a poll. Then we'll hear that he's unelectable...overandoverandoverandoverandover.

Even if Quinnipiac is accurate he only took a 6 point dip after starting a farking war. That's pretty farking good.

Shouldn't wars make him go UP?

twobux: I'm no fan of President Obama; however, the things he had been doing haven't been at the level of impeachment. This Libya situation is coming awfully close. I don't know if it's there, but it's really close to it. He didn't get Congressional approval - that's bad, but I'm not sure whether he needed to or not (call it a war, police involvement, whatever). But we're basically providing aid and comfort to al-Queda. That is what hit me the wrong way.

There are a helluva lot of other people that need our help - monetarily and militarily. I'm not sure why we added Libyans to the list of people we are assisting - especiall al Queda backed Libyans.

You may now commence with shooting me down and exposing my ignorance.

I see someone doesn't know how impeachment works.

BillCo: Calmamity: BillCo: Obama fanboy?

I see you do this in threads all the time.

Do you see anyone here who is behaving like an "Obama fanboy"? Fu*king ANYONE?!

The closest you're going to find is tepid support of the idea that he is doing a mediocre job.


muck4doo: He can't hear the polls over how awesome he is.


I don't think a comment on my part is necessary.

Yes, muck4doo, greatest of the Obama fanboys.

Barbigazi: And let's remember that this number is before the republicans nominate whatever unelectable moron they decide on.

Whoever it is, and I'll guess it's not going to be anyone we know about, they are busy scrubbing his past with bleach and deleting everything they possibly can on the web. There are no electable Republicans yet I can't help but feel like Obama is going to go down, the racism in this country is just out of control (among other things). If, by chance, he does win, we are looking at a level 5 derp storm and quite a few isolated incidents.

I doubt he'll be reelected. The right has been whipped up into a frenzy of hatred, and the left is disappointed to find that he's just another lying sack of shiat politician, so they won't be flocking to the polls. I'm guessing we'll get a republican president who's even shiattier than Obama next election.

elchip: Barbigazi: DrD'isInfotainment: Weird how the gold standard of right leaning (2-3% pts.)polling orgs, Gallup, just shows a bump of 3% points up to 48%in one day, where he has not been in weeks...so let's base a whole narrative on one poll from a fairly obscure polling outfit, and then if we're lucky we can get Scott Rasmussen to chime in with one of his completely made up polls to CONfirm Quinnipiacs outlier of a poll. Then we'll hear that he's unelectable...overandoverandoverandoverandover.

Even if Quinnipiac is accurate he only took a 6 point dip after starting a farking war. That's pretty farking good.

Shouldn't wars make him go UP?

Only if you build a Barracks. Otherwise you take a penalty for War Weariness.

Car_Ramrod: twobux: But we're basically providing aid and comfort to al-Queda. That is what hit me the wrong way.

Wut?

Yeah. BIG citation needed on that one.

Curious polling there... the question "Do you think Obama deserves a second term?" seems like a somewhat different criteria than the standard "Do you approve or disapprove of the job Obama is doing?" That seems like it might have colored the results a bit.

Gallup has Obama's approval currently at 45%, which is still above Reagan's at this point in his presidency.

maybe because right after he spent 2 years telling us how broke the Government is, and preaching about buckling down and focusing like a laser to fix our economy he just wasted nearly 600 million dollars bombing Libya- yet ANOTHER country that never attacked us or posed any threat to us.

President Trump is really gonna have his work cut out for him.

AdolfOliverPanties: Lindsay Lohan on her crack dealer.

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HeartBurnKid: Curious polling there... the question "Do you think Obama deserves a second term?" seems like a somewhat different criteria than the standard "Do you approve or disapprove of the job Obama is doing?" That seems like it might have colored the results a bit.

Gallup has Obama's approval currently at 45%, which is still above Reagan's at this point in his presidency.

Shhh. Obummer has the WORST APPROVAL RATINGS EVAR and to say otherwise would be blasphemy against Saint Reagan (PBUH).

In other news, individual polls tend to

The Gallup released the same day has him at 49%. Up five points from last week.

According to aggregated poll avgerages, Obama's job approval today is the same as it was in February. February 2010.

*tend to go gaga at randon, I was trying to say.

There is crap. There is delusional crap. There is stupid crap. And then there is republican crap.

twobux: Mrtraveler01: I see someone doesn't know how impeachment works

Where did I get it wrong? Where did I insinuate anything about the impeachment / removal process?


twobux: I'm no fan of President Obama; however, the things he had been doing haven't been at the level of impeachment.

No, you just implied that what Obama is doing is close to grounds for impeachment. But I see no difference there.

TheMadChaosopher: President Trump is really gonna have his work cut out for him.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Is that really the best guy the Republicans have? That's so sad.

Car_Ramrod: I was more intrigued by this poll by Gallup:

No real commentary, just interesting.

The narrative there reads to me as "Dude, we like you and you seem to have a good head on your shoulders, but WTF are you doing?"

twobux: This Libya situation is coming awfully close. I don't know if it's there, but it's really close to it. He didn't get Congressional approval

And Bush Sr didn't get Congressional approval for the Iraq no-fly zone, there are more examples but I hope this suffices.

ThatGuyGreg: For the love of God, GOP, nominate someone worth a shiat.

Forget it. They'll never nominate someone outside the party.

GaryPDX: bberg: GaryPDX: oldfarthenry: Where's Gary?
(Oh, right! He's probably too busy masturbating to type.)

No, I was over in the legalize cannabis thread..:)

I notice you didn't deny you were busy masturbating...

What about "No" don't you understand?

so then you want me to have sex with you?

Barbigazi: No republican who actually thinks they have a chance to be president is going to seek the nom in 2012. They're going to Bob Dole that biatch and wait till 2016.

I'll be honest, I'm really worried, the derp-train seems to be in full swing and the level of hate against Obama is beyond the pale, these people are going to dig deep and vote in droves next year to get him out of there. Can the Dems pull off another smashing victory like '08? I doubt it, especially with how bad our country got screwed by the Bush Admin and the more recent plundering the teatard governors are doing, they'll push through every single advantage they can think of.

Mrtraveler01: TheMadChaosopher: President Trump is really gonna have his work cut out for him.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Is that really the best guy the Republicans have? That's so sad.

Out of all the republicans currently running he seems like he'd be the best. Atleast he's not a jesus freak...

This is good news ... for non-existent Generic Republican.

Mrtraveler01: No, you just implied that what Obama is doing is close to grounds for impeachment. But I see no difference there.

Well, a significant violation of the War Powers act would be messy. Good thing no one seems to agree on whether or not he even violated it at all.

Even so, no one's going to impeach Obama. It would put Biden on the throne. No one, left or right, wants that.

I have to say that Obama's leadership is leaving a great deal to be desired. However its not his fault. The system for electing the president is stupid and it came down to Obama v Out of touch old guy and crazy wolf lady. Politicians I would much rather see as president include Kuchinich, Anthony Weiner and Bernie Sanders. Ideally we could just break away from the two party mold all together and elect a person based on qualifications rather than ability to raise money and win political backing.

The main issue I have with Obama is that he is ignoring the generation that voted him in while trying to win the support of the baby boomers by taking money out of education (e.g. Pell Grants) and using it to prop up social security and tax breaks for those making over $250K a year. New graduates were the hardest hit by the recession and yet I haven't heard Obama say anything about how to remove barriers to entry for new employees.

Economics aside Obama has failed to close Gitmo, repeal the Patriot Act, or effectively end combat operations in either Iraq or Afgahnistan. Anyone that believes that the Iraq war is over is kidding themselves.

And what about other issues Obama was elected to fight to defend? Regulating Wall Street? Hardly. Health care reform? Meaningless without the public option. Stopping corruption and lobbying in Washington, dealing with immigration, alternative energy? The list goes on and on. The most notable things Obama has done are continue Bush's tax cuts, continue his stimulus spending and continue his bank/auto industry bailouts.

We were told not to judge Obama in his first year in office because he inhereted such a terrible crisis. Fair enough. But its been over 2 years now and frankly if Obama doesn't start actually following through then "Hes better than the other guy" won't get him my vote in 2012.

Worst president since January of 2009 for sure.

I understand citing a single poll if its a poll that asked something somewhat unique or new. But approval polls are too numerous to count. So it is entirely meaningless to single out a poll, whatever the result, when discussing something so thoroughly polled.

The author should know better.

DarnoKonrad: Worst president since January of 2009 for sure.

Bush was president for most of January 2009. You're gonna need a more specific date.

Didn't the Republicans always insist that polls don't matter? Why do they matter now?

palelizard: Even so, no one's going to impeach Obama. It would put Biden on the throne. No one, left or right, wants that.

Speak for yourself, it would be like having Rodney Dangerfield as President
"When I squeeze into a parking spot I'm sexually satisfied!"

This is significant how?

Really, you people who hang your arguments and/or hopes on weekly polls should get out more.

Green Scorpio: Who is John Galt?

Some whiny jackass.

Green Scorpio: Who is John Galt?

A Gary Stu character from a novel that reads more like the long-winded diatribe of a child than a cohesive narrative. Why do you ask?

Green Scorpio: Barbigazi: Green Scorpio: Who is John Galt?

A poor fiction.

hillbillypharmacist: Green Scorpio: Who is John Galt?

I don't know for sure, but I hear he loves to throw babies out with bathwater.

Mrtraveler01: Green Scorpio: Who is John Galt?

Some whiny jackass.

Three hooks in a row - a personal best.

If you didn't put out such tasty bait on that hook I wouldn't have taken it.

I wish someone would have told the Gaddafi Army that Obama stopped Gaddafi's deadly advance.

Ajdabiya falls tomorrow, in all likelyhood, as the rebels fled from Ajdabiya too.

Then what's the plan?

Arming the rebels is not enough, the rebels don't have the men or the will to actually fight.

McCainDemocrat:

I thought you were traveling?

what_now His "base" is annoyed that he hasn't moved fast enough on our social goals and hasn't punched Jim Inhofe in the face. Unlike Republicans, we criticize him when we feel his actions or inactions merit criticism.

We'll still all vote for him again.

Green Scerpio: Three hooks in a row

LOL U TROL THEM!

McCainDemocrat: Arming the rebels is not enough, the rebels don't have the men or the will to actually fight.

Men who've cast their lot against a despot who will have them drawn and quartered if he wins probably have the will to fight.

Damn, this guy is a total failure.

And we told you he would be.

he's roached.

Bocanegra: Derp.

You've said a lot of things.

How was that FEMA Concentration Re-Education Camp experience?

I heard the brainwashing chair was the most popular ride.

McCainDemocrat: I wish someone would have told the Gaddafi Army that Obama stopped Gaddafi's deadly advance.

They did, actually. There is an ebb and flow in war. Look into it.

McCainDemocrat: Ajdabiya falls tomorrow, in all likelyhood, as the rebels fled from Ajdabiya too.

Then what's the plan?

Who's plan? Obama's plan is to try and help the rebels win while staying in the agreed-upon framework of the UN/Arab League and making sure someone else takes the lead.

McCainDemocrat: Arming the rebels is not enough, the rebels don't have the men or the will to actually fight.

This isn't known at this time. You are speculating from your opinion-hole.

Barbigazi: 41% feel he deserves a second term means he is a failure.

What if it goes up?

Barbigazi: Doesn't matter, look at the posts above mine. It's already over. He might as well turn himself in.

True. Two years is a short time in the election cycle.

I wasn't polled but this is easy... President Obama has done a good job especially considering the state of things when he took office.

My vote is pretty much decided anyway... The GOP has ensured that I will never vote for any of their candidates at any level of elected office and absolutely not the Presidency. Even if they did put up a candidate that didn't disgust me entirely, I still couldn't vote for them because of their Republican affiliation. There is no way Republicans can redeem themselves in my eyes and apparently they have no interest in even trying. The Green party is a joke these days... I mean come on... they put up Cynthia McKinney last time around. I don't see any other parties putting up anyone who is a viable candidate...

/I'm an Independent... not a Democrat.

McCainDemocrat: Headso: arm the rebels through the french?

The same Rebels who run away at the first sign of trouble?

I wouldn't give shiny expensive weapons to a force that has problems with holding their ground.

Also, if you believe the rebel forces, they're also facing 3000 Chadians. To add to the thousands of Gaddafi revolutionary guards and assorted other forces.

So they're outmanned and outgunned.

What's Obama gonna do to have any success in Libya?

Just arming the rebels is symbolic and meaningless. You have to do something tangible.

I take it your travels to Libya have informed you.

It's been said that when both the right and the left disapprove of your policies it means you must be doing something correct. But I think in Obama's case that's not true.

Honestly, if you've decided to buy into the hype and the attacks from Fox, the NRO, the WSJ and other desperate butthurt right-wingers who can't stand the man in office, it's your own f*cking fault.

And if you vote GOP in 2012 out of spite, you are a total asshole who deserves mountains of ridicule.

Percentage of error in all their polls, plus or minus 2.2%. How does that work?

It's like magnets, right?

unyon: Dumbass. That just means it's time to dig sideways.

No, no, dig up, stupid.