Right.. that Iraqi no-fly zone that kept him helpless for a decade was such a failure.. what?

That's why I called BS on the Bush Administration's line about needing to take out Saddam to prevent a mushroom cloud.. we've had him under our bootheel all this time, how could he possibly be a threat?

We'd have ground troops in Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya... we really dodged a bullet

Good Lord, did that man ever have an aspect of foreign policy that didn't involve an all-out war?

If we would have elected John McCain, the US wouldn't be involved in 2 wars right now, we'd be involved in 8. Then, after he keeled over from the stress of managing it all, President Palin would be the new Commander in Chief overseeing all of those operations.

Think about that one for a minute.

He's right. We can't just wait around while Qaddafi prepares to use his stockpile of WMDs. Plus, we still own him for his involvement in 9/11.

The Homer Tax: Good Lord, did that man ever have an aspect of foreign policy that didn't involve an all-out war?

If we would have elected John McCain, the US wouldn't be involved in 2 wars right now, we'd be involved in 8. Then, after he keeled over from the stress of managing it all, President Palin would be the new Commander in Chief overseeing all of those operations.

Think about that one for a minute.

The Homer Tax: Good Lord, did that man ever have an aspect of foreign policy that didn't involve an all-out war?

If we would have elected John McCain, the US wouldn't be involved in 2 wars right now, we'd be involved in 8. Then, after he keeled over from the stress of managing it all, President Palin would be the new Commander in Chief overseeing all of those operations.

Think about that one for a minute.

....58 Mississippi...59 Mississippi....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *thunk*

Guess he had a change of heart. (new window)

Who else was involved in the effort to forge better ties with Gadhafi? John McCain. In August 2009 he led a delegation of senators, including fellow hawks Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman, on a trip to visit the Libyan leader in Tripoli. Discussed during the visit was delivery of -- get this -- American military equipment to Gadhafi (a man with American blood on his hands no less).

Oh, WikiLeaks. (new window)

McCain discussed security, counterterrorism, and civil-nuclear cooperation during August 14 meetings with Libyan leader Muammar al-Qadhafi and his son, National Security Advisor Muatassim al-Qadhafi, stressing the need for Libya to fulfill its WMD-related commitments and to approve a Section 505 end-user agreement in order to move forward on bilateral military and civil-nuclear engagement. While Muatassim al-Qadhafi reiterated long-standing Libyan requests for security assurances from the United States and emphasized Libya's interest in the purchase of U.S. lethal and non-lethal military equipment, Muammar al-Qadhafi was notably silent on these subjects. The elder Qadhafi made a point of expressing his satisfaction with the improved U.S relationship and his hope that the relationship would continue to flourish.
...
McCain's meetings with Muammar and Muatassim al-Qadhafi were positive, highlighting the progress that has been made in the bilateral relationship. The meetings also reiterated Libya's desire for enhanced security cooperation, increased assistance in the procurement of defense equipment, and resolution to the C130s issue. Although Muatassim al-Qadhafi repeated Libya's familiar complaint that it has not received enough recognition and support in exchange for its decision to abandon its WMD programs, Muammar al-Qadhafi was notably silent on this issue. Qadhafi's silence on these issues may have been part of his reaction to the CODEL's discussion of the pending release of convicted Pan Am 103 bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi (ref A), an issue that reportedly is of great personal concern to Qadhafi.

As much as I dislike what Obama has doing, the thought of having Palin in charge of multiple overseas "squirmishes" makes me queezy.

*IS doing.

Awesome. Then Big John can pass the hat around and privately fund a black ops mission with a bunch of mercenaries - certainly he has the means, the connections. He already has the motivation.

John McCain doesn't even know who John McCain is anymore. Isn't it already established that what this man says shall have no credence?

The Homer Tax:
If we would have elected John McCain, the US wouldn't be involved in 2 wars right now, we'd be involved in 8. Then, after he keeled over from the stress of managing it all, President Palin would be the new Commander in Chief overseeing all of those operations.

Think about that one for a minute.

That's a flat-out lie. If Sarah were in charge, your armed forces would follow her every command like the living Goddess She is. She would declare each of those 8 wars won half-way through, pulled out and moved on. She has a lot of experience pulling out of long-term commitments half-way through!

You guys would only be in 1 war and I'm guessing it'd be a pretty damn civil one.

Headso: We'd have ground troops in Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya... we really dodged a bullet

How do you know we won't have them in Libya? Reports today suggest that the Rebels are getting stomped again.

Qwaffles troops are entrenched in the cities so we can't bomb them. The rebels lack the manpower/weapons/tactics to run them out of the cities. The only logical conclusion is that, if we want to defeat Qwaffle's ground forces, we have to have troops on the ground. Or do we arm rebel groups who are most likely made up of some of the terrorist groups we have been fighting the last 10 years?

The whole thing is a gigantic mess. I'm not sure if there even is a right answer.

Compares it to Gulf War I, like that's a *bad* thing? Compared to Gulf War II: Iraqi Boogaloo, Gulf War I looks awesome. farked shiat up on CNN, saved some plutocrats, went home, mission a-farking-ccomplished.

xtragrind: The whole thing is a gigantic mess turd sandwich. I'm not sure if there even is a right answer.

/get it straight

mrshowrules: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Alphax: how could he possibly be a threat?

9/11

+1.

9/12 doesn't make any sense.

McCain never met a brown person he wasn't willing to kill.

xtragrind: How do you know we won't have them in Libya? Reports today suggest that the Rebels are getting stomped again.

Because the political capital to invade countries was blown in Iraq.

meat0918: mrshowrules: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Alphax: how could he possibly be a threat?

9/11

+1.

9/12 doesn't make any sense.

No, no, it's a fraction, so it's going to be 20/11. Oh no! The terrorists plan to attack this year!

The Homer Tax: Good Lord, did that man ever have an aspect of foreign policy that didn't involve an all-out war?

If we would have elected John McCain, the US wouldn't be involved in 2 wars right now, we'd be involved in 8. Then, after he keeled over from the stress of managing it all, President Palin would be the new Commander in Chief overseeing all of those operations.

Think about that one for a minute.

That's pretty scary.

Maybe in 2013 we can have Donald Trump, then everything will be OK.

Damn now I'm confused. Is Obama at war in Libya without Congressional approval, or is he not doing enough war in Libya?

/the guy that passed on the talking points of the day died, I'm sorta out of the loop lately.

It's funny that John "I was the biggest critique of the Iraq war" McCain now believes we should be having a full on war in Libya.

Something in that doesn't jive.

LittleSmitty: Damn now I'm confused. Is Obama at war in Libya without Congressional approval, or is he not doing enough war in Libya?

/the guy that passed on the talking points of the day died, I'm sorta out of the loop lately.

That's why the Rush Limbaugh show starts in the morning so conservatives know what to think the rest of the day.

CoffeeCup: meat0918: mrshowrules: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Alphax: how could he possibly be a threat?

9/11

+1.

9/12 doesn't make any sense.

No, no, it's a fraction, so it's going to be 20/11. Oh no! The terrorists plan to attack this year!

I think you're on to something.

2011 is the year.

Now we take 9*11 + 9*12 which gives us 207.

Divide 207 by 3 (for the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to get 69.

Now the square root of 69 is 8 something, around 8.31.

So the terrorist attack that will bring about the end of the world is 8-31-2011.

Prepare. Repent. Be Saved.

DROxINxTHExWIND: Lord_Baull: McCain never met a brown person he wasn't willing to kill.

I was going to say his daughter, but then again, if he thought that offing her would have gotten him the office in 2000, she'd already be dead. Hell, he later hugged all over the man who shiated on her name in that campaign.

And he was fine to with her image being removed from family pictures. Don't want to confuse voters with a darky on them.

The man is scum.

meat0918: mrshowrules: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Alphax: how could he possibly be a threat?

9/11

+1.

9/12 doesn't make any sense.

Of course it doesn't; it was something Glenn Beck set up.

Ah, republican foreign policy. It reminds me of playground bullies who think the answer is always charging in head first. It's adorable, but perhaps their private school didn't let them find out the eventual repercussion where a smarter kid stands in front of a metal pole and simply steps aside so they end up in the nurse's office. Bullies eventually end up bloodied and possibly brain damaged by their own momentum.

meat0918: CoffeeCup: meat0918: mrshowrules: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Alphax: how could he possibly be a threat?

9/11

+1.

9/12 doesn't make any sense.

No, no, it's a fraction, so it's going to be 20/11. Oh no! The terrorists plan to attack this year!

I think you're on to something.

2011 is the year.

Now we take 9*11 + 9*12 which gives us 207.

Divide 207 by 3 (for the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to get 69.

Now the square root of 69 is 8 something, around 8.31.

So the terrorist attack that will bring about the end of the world is 8-31-2011.

Prepare. Repent. Be Saved.

I'm sorry I can't seem to pay attention after 69.

Corvus: LittleSmitty: Damn now I'm confused. Is Obama at war in Libya without Congressional approval, or is he not doing enough war in Libya?

/the guy that passed on the talking points of the day died, I'm sorta out of the loop lately.

That's why the Rush Limbaugh show starts in the morning so conservatives know what to think the rest of the day.

And there is my problem. He's the one that listened to Rush, then disseminated the talking points. I got to hear the talking points without having to listen to Rush. Rush really got him fired up too.

Our politics were polar opposite, though we got along fine otherwise. He's the guy that turned me on to FARK back in the day. He died of cancer last year. In a weird way, I miss his ranting about Obama not wearing his flag pin. Those were golden days. Golden days indeed.

Arizona senator seeks more forceful U.S. commitment to Libyan rebel movement, saying simple no-fly zone would be a repeat of post-Gulf War Iraq strategy

Which was a fine strategy.

RowdyPants: John McCain doesn't even know who John McCain is anymore. Isn't it already established that what this man says shall have no credence?

Aw, c'mon, give him a break! Old people say stupid things.

*blink* *blink* *blink* *blink* *blink*

I think even Republicans now understand John McCain would of sucked as president.


It's funny they hate Bush now too and turning on Sarah Palin.

Amazing how all these things they are realizing they were wrong about. B-B-But this time they are right for sure.

Maybe Newt should have a word with McCain.