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(The New York Times)   If your war is so unimportant you can not interrupt a third rate TV dancing show featuring e-list celebrities so flabby they hork-up off-stage from the effort, maybe it is not worth fighting   (mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 178
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2011-03-30 08:32:40 AM  
So, basically, I'm supposed to be outraged that two parties came to an amiable agreement through brief negotiations over the slotting of a speech that was not critically time-sensitive?

Why this is just an OUTRAGE!

/ I've emailed you a cockpunch, submitter, don't bother thanking me, you earned it
 
2011-03-30 08:35:44 AM  
so

why are we not in Darfur again?

Millions dying.. and we don't care.
 
2011-03-30 08:38:45 AM  

SphericalTime: In a sense, I think that's kind of what Obama wanted this war. We were pulling our participation out almost before the planes had taken off.


Which is why we've fired 90% of the cruise missiles, organized the entire thing, and flown the majority of the sorties. Just because the official line is that we're "taking a back seat" doesn't mean we are (new window).
 
2011-03-30 08:41:14 AM  

Saturn5: SphericalTime: In a sense, I think that's kind of what Obama wanted this war. We were pulling our participation out almost before the planes had taken off.

Camp Lejune announced this week they're sending 2000 Marines to Libya.
We may not be officially taking the lead, but we're far from pulling our participation.


This is a good point, but it should be noted that those Marines were already scheduled to depart on a routine float. Now, they'll be floating off the Libyan shore instead of patrolling the Med.
 
2011-03-30 08:44:45 AM  

winterwhile: so

why are we not in Darfur again?

Millions dying.. and we don't care.


Or Somalia, or Bahrain, or Syria, or Cote d'Ivoire, or Zimbabwe, or Myanmar...

The strongest argument I've seen from a moral perspective for why here and nowhere else, is that our intervention in Libya bolsters the wider anti-dictator movement going on in the Arab world right now. This argument for "why" still fails to answer the equally important questions of "how long", "why no Congressional vote" and, "how will we pay for it".
 
2011-03-30 09:08:53 AM  
I SOOOOOOO love the way the trolls and ubercons have turned into bleeding-heart, "Why don't we save EVERYONE EVER, if we don't do that than Obama is wrong! War is bad (now)!"
 
2011-03-30 09:10:36 AM  

BroadbandGremlin: Your cliche satire actually examples the real problem with Obama's presidency.


Did this asshole just use "examples" as a verb? Really?
 
2011-03-30 09:24:20 AM  

sigdiamond2000: BroadbandGremlin: Your cliche satire actually examples the real problem with Obama's presidency.

Did this asshole just use "examples" as a verb? Really?


I'm just hoping the speel check goofed on "exemplifies."
 
2011-03-30 09:26:18 AM  

PogoStick Jesus: mikaloyd: Remember when Obama was the lone voice in the wilderness against US military intervention in the middle East?

Good times man, good times

You mean he was against it before he was for it? Sounds like some kinda politician to me.


He is throwing out the first Tomahawk missile for the Nationals on opening day this week.
 
2011-03-30 09:39:11 AM  

mikaloyd: PogoStick Jesus: mikaloyd: Remember when Obama was the lone voice in the wilderness against US military intervention in the middle East?

Good times man, good times

You mean he was against it before he was for it? Sounds like some kinda politician to me.

He is throwing out the first Tomahawk missile for the Nationals on opening day this week.


That might actually be more of a help to the Nats.
 
2011-03-30 09:56:35 AM  

PogoStick Jesus: That might actually be more of a help to the Nats.


Left field is now a no fly zone except for coalition batters
 
2011-03-30 10:21:17 AM  

Heron:

Which is why we've fired 90% of the cruise missiles, organized the entire thing, and flown the majority of the sorties. Just because the official line is that we're "taking a back seat" doesn't mean we are (new window).


This.
The way the left rationalizes Libya is that it is NATO and we are just sort of hanging out and providing support.

Listen to Obama's speech and how many times he used the word "I" when describing the actions.
 
2011-03-30 10:26:35 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Listen to Obama's speech and how many times he used the word "I" when describing the actions.


OMG! Obama used the word "I" meaning he is solely and directly responsible for all military action in Libya taken by US and all foreign forces!

In other words, DERP!
 
2011-03-30 10:31:11 AM  

mikaloyd: PogoStick Jesus: That might actually be more of a help to the Nats.

Left field is now a no fly zone except for coalition batters


I might actually pay to watch a rebel faction of the Nationals rise up to fight the suck that is the Nationals.

/mortar rounds packed with HGH and automatic rifles firing syringes of steroids sounds like a grand ole time.

//heh, and tell Dan in Lafayette that Sniper Wolf still thinks he's a huge jackass.
 
2011-03-30 10:45:04 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Or maybe it's more telling about the state of modern media.


More about not getting the anti-war crowd angry at Obama. Got to protect their horse in the race.
 
2011-03-30 10:45:20 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Libya.
Discuss.


A two-word troll. Nice.
 
2011-03-30 10:47:25 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Listen to Obama's speech and how many times he used the word "I" when describing the actions.


Well, I went and got the transcript and counted three.

"I ordered warships into the Mediterranean."
"I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973. "
"the world .. would be better off with Qaddafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal,"

And we're really stretching to include that third one.

That's, uh, that's really it. By comparison, just for giggles, the word "NATO" appears five times in the speech and the word "we" in reference to the coalition appears five times in just one paragraph toward the middle of the speech.

So your point is.....?
 
2011-03-30 10:47:53 AM  
Obama declared war and went on vacation. A few days later he got around to addressing Congress. A week later, he got around to giving us a half-assed speeched.

The useful idiots in Total Fark fainted and had funny feelings up their legs.
 
2011-03-30 10:51:35 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Obama declared war and went on vacation. A few days later he got around to addressing Congress. A week later, he got around to giving us a half-assed speeched.

The useful idiots in Total Fark fainted and had funny feelings up their legs.


1.bp.blogspot.com
I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU, ALL RIGHT?
 
2011-03-30 10:52:47 AM  

sigdiamond2000: BroadbandGremlin: Your cliche satire actually examples the real problem with Obama's presidency.

Did this asshole just use "examples" as a verb? Really?


Examples is the ep-i-tome of modern verbage.
 
2011-03-30 10:54:13 AM  

Splinshints: tenpoundsofcheese: Listen to Obama's speech and how many times he used the word "I" when describing the actions.

Well, I went and got the transcript and counted three.

"I ordered warships into the Mediterranean."
"I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973. "
"the world .. would be better off with Qaddafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal,"

And we're really stretching to include that third one.

That's, uh, that's really it. By comparison, just for giggles, the word "NATO" appears five times in the speech and the word "we" in reference to the coalition appears five times in just one paragraph toward the middle of the speech.

So your point is.....?


His point is that he's ten pounds of somethin', but it ain't cheese.
 
2011-03-30 10:56:13 AM  

Nemo's Brother: UNC_Samurai: Or maybe it's more telling about the state of modern media.

More about not getting the anti-war crowd angry at Obama. Got to protect their horse in the race.


'Cause all the folks that got pissed off we invaded Iraq and our justification was a house of lies and stupid think that military action is never justified for any reason?

/Honestly, I'd have been cool if Dubya just flat out said that we were invading Iraq cause Saddam Hussein was a jackass that needed to get his ass kicked. Lying about WMD's and stringing people along so they erroneously believe that Hussein had anything to do with 9/11 though, that was kinda inexcusable.

//yeah, I know it still would have pissed people off, but ya gotta admit that Iraq is most likely better off today for it.
 
2011-03-30 11:34:57 AM  

soy_bomb: Obama could have done the speech during a commercial break.

My fellow Americans, Libya has oil and Europe needs it. Good night and God Bless America.


All I could remember thinking during the speech explaining how America couldn't sit by and watch people get slaughtered was: "Really? Didn't we sit back for 8 farking years while civilians got the shiat slaughtered out of them in Darfur?"

So we while we could sit back and do nothing, we need to protect our interest in the regionis is what I came away with.
 
2011-03-30 11:39:31 AM  
From the NYT:

"The president had a caveat, though. The American involvement in military action in Libya should be limited - no ground troops - and finite. "Days, not weeks," a senior White House official recalled him saying."

Also, Obama said no boots on the ground. Are we to believe that the USS Bataan which is loaded up with the 22nd MEU will not put boots on the ground? With the numerous "precision" air-strikes, there is a distinct possibility of FACs on the ground.

If Libya, why not Syria, Yemen, Ivory Coast. Could it be Libya's 44+ billion barrels of proven oil reserves?

As an aside, Halliburton, who stands to gain from our intervention in Libya and our turning a blind eye to what Saudi Arabia is doing to its citizenry, has been up about 7.85% since the bombing started.
 
2011-03-30 03:45:36 PM  
thomascreativedesign.com

Oh wait......sorry my mistake...its okay now...
 
2011-03-30 06:09:23 PM  

Weaver95: wow. that's almost exactly what the left wing said about Bush's invasion of Iraq.

weird how things come full circle, isn't it?


I thought it was that their plan was shiatty and based on misleading/faulty information? Or did W finally find those WMD under a couch somewhere?
 
2011-03-30 08:00:37 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: GOP: Why aren't we attacking Lybia!?

Obama and Allies launch military operation against Libya.

GOP: Why are we attacking Lybia!?

Obama hands most of the operation over to NATO.

GOP: Why aren't we attacking Lybia!?


This is why you morons aren't in charge anymore, and won't be in charge again for a very long time.


Goes both ways, you HAVE to see that. Bush got approval from Congress before going to war. "Illegal war!!!! Impeach!!!!!" Obama does this and the GOP says the same garbage. To actually think one party handles these situations better than the other is blind party loyalty.
 
2011-03-31 10:40:46 AM  

broktune:
Goes both ways, you HAVE to see that. Bush got approval from Congress before going to war. "Illegal war!!!! Impeach!!!!!" Obama does this and the GOP says the same garbage. To actually think one party handles these situations better than the other is blind party loyalty.


yeah this is what's known as political posturing based on the knowledge that most of us Americans have the attention span and memory of a gnat.
 
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