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(Mother Jones)   Tea Party Patriots latest scheme to derail President Obama's health care reform: A health care compact   (motherjones.com) divider line 37
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2011-03-29 02:12:37 PM
I don't have a problem with this. Obamacare already provides a way for states to opt-out.
 
2011-03-29 02:13:02 PM
The rich want to stop paying for poor and elderly people's health care? No way.
 
2011-03-29 02:13:39 PM
Honest Question -

On a scale from He(R)p to (D)erp, where does this site lie?
 
2011-03-29 02:14:08 PM
What compact healthcare may look like:

images.wikia.com

also, on an unrelated note, a GIS for "small medkit" finds this gem:

intarnet.us
 
2011-03-29 02:15:51 PM
The vehicle for this reform end run is called the health care compact, an interstate compact not very different in theory from the ones states use to create regional transit authorities, for instance.

So it's a group(s) of people getting together to work toward a common goal. That sounds socialist.
 
2011-03-29 02:15:59 PM
PirateKing: also, on an unrelated note, a GIS for "small medkit" finds this gem:

thedemotivators.com
 
2011-03-29 02:16:49 PM
So they're OK with spending the money, they just don't want the black guy in charge of it?
 
2011-03-29 02:18:04 PM
I have a lot of respect for Mother Jones and they have done some amazing investigative pieces over their many years, but stick a fork in my eye, the writing is so boring!

/tl;dr
 
2011-03-29 02:20:40 PM
Lessons in futility.
 
2011-03-29 02:21:38 PM
I'm a little Tea Pot
Short on Clout.
Here is my anger.
Here is my pout.
When I get all steamed up
Bile comes out.
Disagree with me
and hear me shout
 
2011-03-29 02:22:22 PM
There's no downside here. States are allowed to opt-out from the federal program. And if they join with other states to get better rates, that's good too.

I look forward to getting statements from the "Compact Georgia Ohio Nebraska Alabama Delaware Health Plan."
 
2011-03-29 02:22:37 PM
Confederates are always doing this bizarre shiat where they create surrogates for central authority that end up being central authorities themselves.
 
2011-03-29 02:23:00 PM
Linbeck is not the first member of his family to spend big money on a quixotic right-wing campaign with little chance of succeeding. His father, Leo Linbeck Jr., who inherited a hugely profitable construction company from his father, is the engine behind the "fair tax," a proposal to eliminate income, payroll, and estate taxes and replace them with a highly regressive 23 percent sales tax. Leo Jr., who has said the research and marketing of the fair tax has cost $20 million, has been promoting it in state legislatures since 1993, with little to show for it (though he, too, is finding a new audience among tea partiers).

So this is second generation nonsense.
 
2011-03-29 02:24:02 PM
PirateKing: What compact healthcare may look like:



also, on an unrelated note, a GIS for "small medkit" finds this gem:


The second pic makes for a great "Is that a grenade in your speedos or are you just happy to see...wait...that is a grenade in your speedos!" ...conversation.
 
2011-03-29 02:24:25 PM
ginandbacon: I have a lot of respect for Mother Jones and they have done some amazing investigative pieces over their many years, but stick a fork in my eye, the writing is so boring!

/tl;dr


It rather strongly implies that red states have managed to find a way (a longshot) to legislate themselves right off the blue state gravey train. Haha. Fixed 2010 dollars you say, right before what could be a period of some significant inflation? Do it, farkers.
 
2011-03-29 02:24:52 PM
These nutbars really need some new ideas.

i56.tinypic.com
 
2011-03-29 02:25:25 PM
Egged on by tea partiers, at least a dozen states are now contemplating legislation that supporters believe would allow them to seize control of and administer virtually all federal health care programs operating in their states and exempt them from the requirements of the health care law.

Good. Farking do it. Let's see how well your cunning plan works. Nothing could possibly give me more glee than to read a story about a Teabagger being denied insurance and going broke from health care bills after they repealed HCR in their state.

And just an observation - states this year are doing anything and everything they can to attract businesses to their states at the cost of the people. Higher taxes, no unionizing, no health care laws, etc. Those businesses aren't going to be doing that well if there's no people who actually want to live there.
 
2011-03-29 02:32:27 PM
I will say again, the states who want to do this, just secede already. We get it, you don't want to be part of the US while a scary black man is in charge. Stop being pussies and do it. I'm sure it will end extremely well for you and your newly created third world shiathole.
 
2011-03-29 02:35:12 PM
Tickle Mittens: ginandbacon: I have a lot of respect for Mother Jones and they have done some amazing investigative pieces over their many years, but stick a fork in my eye, the writing is so boring!

/tl;dr

It rather strongly implies that red states have managed to find a way (a longshot) to legislate themselves right off the blue state gravey train. Haha. Fixed 2010 dollars you say, right before what could be a period of some significant inflation? Do it, farkers.


Hahaha!! Thanks for the recap, that's hilarious :)
 
2011-03-29 02:38:37 PM
Hey Hey Hey everybody look over here Shiny. You like shiny don't you?
 
2011-03-29 02:43:42 PM
FTFA: In Texas alone, where the House Committee on State Sovereignty held a hearing on a proposed compact bill in mid-March

Ah, Texas. Does any other state have an official Committee on Secessionist Garbage to Rile up the Base?

...maybe South Carolina?
 
2011-03-29 02:46:46 PM
Lockeslessons: I will say again, the states who want to do this, just secede already. We get it, you don't want to be part of the US while a scary black man is in charge. Stop being pussies and do it. I'm sure it will end extremely well for you and your newly created third world shiathole.

Have you seen the tourism commercials for Texas?

Texas - It's like a whole other country

How subtle.
 
2011-03-29 02:56:46 PM
www.computermuseum.li

RIP COMPAQ
 
2011-03-29 03:25:18 PM
lennavan: Nothing could possibly give me more glee than to read a story about a Teabagger being denied insurance and going broke from health care bills after they repealed HCR in their state.

I would laugh loud and long at videos of Teatards having their Medicare-paid Hoverrounds repossessed, to much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
2011-03-29 03:25:22 PM
Lockeslessons: I will say again, the states who want to do this, just secede already. We get it, you don't want to be part of the US while a scary black man is in charge. Stop being pussies and do it. I'm sure it will end extremely well for you and your newly created third world shiathole.

Nice try.
 
2011-03-29 03:25:32 PM
AdolfOliverPanties:
Lockeslessons: I will say again, the states who want to do this, just secede already. We get it, you don't want to be part of the US while a scary black man is in charge. Stop being pussies and do it. I'm sure it will end extremely well for you and your newly created third world shiathole.

Have you seen the tourism commercials for Texas?

Texas - It's like a whole other country

How subtle.


Unfortunately that other country they are trying to emulate seems to be Somalia.
 
2011-03-29 03:25:42 PM
DarnoKonrad: Confederates are always doing this bizarre shiat where they create surrogates for central authority that end up being central authorities themselves.

You're suggesting a system full of checks on power, balancing one branch against another.

Your ideaf intrigue me and I wifh to fubfcribe to your newfletter.
 
2011-03-29 03:26:17 PM
NewportBarGuy: These nutbars really need some new ideas.

I'm surprised they didn't use the word "covenant", 'cause that's all Biblical sounding.
 
2011-03-29 03:53:54 PM
If they can't control medical inflation or health insurance premium inflation (which is actually worse than medical inflation), then this plan is doomed to fail since federal funding is only going to grow based on CPI. The states will be forced to raise revenues within their own borders or dump even more costs than is already occurring on their residents by cutting coverage. In short, good luck at getting this plan to work.
 
2011-03-29 03:55:02 PM
It's like the Mayflower compact only stupid.
 
2011-03-29 04:29:57 PM
Dr Dreidel: DarnoKonrad: Confederates are always doing this bizarre shiat where they create surrogates for central authority that end up being central authorities themselves.

You're suggesting a system full of checks on power, balancing one branch against another.

Your ideaf intrigue me and I wifh to fubfcribe to your newfletter.


I fee what you did there.
 
2011-03-29 04:58:29 PM
Lockeslessons: I will say again, the states who want to do this, just secede already. We get it, you don't want to be part of the US while a scary black man is in charge. Stop being pussies and do it. I'm sure it will end extremely well for you and your newly created third world shiathole.

You people keep forgetting about Texas and its large coastline. We can't have a libertarian paradise spewing out pirates that close to the port of New Orleans when the oil runs dry.
 
2011-03-29 06:45:44 PM
May not be constitutional.

Article 1, Section 10; "Powers prohibited of States": "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
 
2011-03-29 06:58:09 PM
They could form a Labor Union and exempt themselves. heh.
 
2011-03-29 08:27:36 PM
Alien Robot: May not be constitutional.

Article 1, Section 10; "Powers prohibited of States": "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."


Well they like to pick and choose which articles they are subject too so they will ignore this until it's crammed down their throats.
 
2011-03-30 01:40:13 AM
Alien Robot: May not be constitutional.

Probably why TFA notes the need for congress to assent.
 
2011-03-30 01:34:52 PM
So, let me see if I have this straight... they think that, by forming this agreement with the other states, not only will they escape from the federal regulations, but they'll force the feds to turn over the money allocated for those purposes?

How did anybody even manage to convince themselves that this was going to work?

/hey, while you were in the can, me and him agreed that you were going to buy us both beers. Get on that.
 
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