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(Comics Alliance)   It takes a special kind of person to pass known comic artists' work as your own and sell it, and then there's this guy   (comicsalliance.com ) divider line
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2011-03-29 11:23:33 AM  
In the age of the internet, how does someone think they're going to get away with shiat like this?
 
2011-03-29 11:47:59 AM  
Wow.

i24.photobucket.com
 
2011-03-29 11:56:03 AM  
What a scumbag.
 
2011-03-29 11:57:09 AM  
Greg Land?
 
2011-03-29 12:17:28 PM  
 
2011-03-29 12:20:01 PM  
These people take comics and themselves wayyy too seriously. They sound like six-year olds.
 
2011-03-29 12:20:17 PM  
Carlos Mencia?
 
mhd
2011-03-29 12:22:49 PM  
Todd McFarlane?

Greg Land?

Oh. Never mind.
 
2011-03-29 12:23:16 PM  

chrisco123: These people take comics and themselves wayyy too seriously. They sound like six-year olds.


*crosses out chrisco123's handle, signs own*

hey you guys check out what I said.

/plagiarism is plagiarism.
//you steal my sh*t to make money off it, it's kind of frowned upon and has nothing to do with how serious or not you take yourself huuurrrrrr.
 
2011-03-29 12:26:11 PM  
On the other hand, if you took Rob Liefeld's work and improved upon it would it really be a crime?
 
2011-03-29 12:26:36 PM  
We all learned to draw by copying stuff...the problem is when you keep doing it and try to sell it.
 
2011-03-29 12:27:02 PM  
I'm actually surprised this wasn't on Fark already considering it the climax of the whole Granito fiasco was over the weekend.

I can't decide which guy is worst, Granito or Nick Simmons. Prolly Granito since he's trying to exploit McDuffie.
 
2011-03-29 12:27:21 PM  
Just a thought I came up with on my own: These people take comics and themselves wayyy too serious. They sound like six-year olds.
 
2011-03-29 12:28:13 PM  

ichiban: We all learned to draw by copying stuff...the problem is when you keep doing it and try to sell it.


... on the conventions where the original artists or their friends are invited guests.
 
2011-03-29 12:28:41 PM  

chrisco123: These people take comics and themselves wayyy too seriously. They sound like six-year olds.


Ever create anything of value? Nah, I didn't think so.
 
2011-03-29 12:29:32 PM  
If Mark Waid hated me, I'd have to hate myself.
 
2011-03-29 12:30:12 PM  
That's fraud, brother.

I would think that alerting law enforcement and publishers' legal teams to the existence of an ostentatious and prolific forger would be a more effective way of dealing with him then yelling at him at a comics convention but letting him continue ripping people off for the remainder of the event.
 
2011-03-29 12:31:29 PM  
I find his work to be Warholesque.
 
2011-03-29 12:32:32 PM  

poot_rootbeer: That's fraud, brother.

I would think that alerting law enforcement and publishers' legal teams to the existence of an ostentatious and prolific forger would be a more effective way of dealing with him then yelling at him at a comics convention but letting him continue ripping people off for the remainder of the event.


yup.
this.
 
2011-03-29 12:33:33 PM  

Sarcastica75: poot_rootbeer: That's fraud, brother.

I would think that alerting law enforcement and publishers' legal teams to the existence of an ostentatious and prolific forger would be a more effective way of dealing with him then yelling at him at a comics convention but letting him continue ripping people off for the remainder of the event.

yup.
this.


Who's to say this is not already happening?
 
2011-03-29 12:34:47 PM  

poot_rootbeer: That's fraud, brother.

I would think that alerting law enforcement and publishers' legal teams to the existence of an ostentatious and prolific forger would be a more effective way of dealing with him then yelling at him at a comics convention but letting him continue ripping people off for the remainder of the event.


The article did mention that he apparently changes stuff enough to potentially make it an "original" work. Kind of like all the Calvin peeing on/praying to things truck stickers I'd guess.
 
2011-03-29 12:37:09 PM  
I wrote up a pretty good article about this dude. You guys should check it out.

Link (new window)
 
2011-03-29 12:40:42 PM  

Darkscout: hey you guys check out what I said.

 
2011-03-29 12:41:03 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: On the other hand, if you took Rob Liefeld's work and improved upon it would it really be a crime?


Depends on where you set the fire.
 
2011-03-29 12:41:46 PM  
Didn't that guy from KISS have his son get in trouble for doing this shiat as well?
 
2011-03-29 12:42:49 PM  

chrisco123: These people take comics and themselves wayyy too seriously. They sound like six-year olds.


You obviously do nothing or have anything in life worth taking so here you are making stupid comments.
 
2011-03-29 12:43:02 PM  
These people take comics and themselves wayyy too seriously. They sound like six-year olds.
 
2011-03-29 12:46:43 PM  
profile.ak.fbcdn.net
'Think McFly think. Do you know what would happen to me if I turned in my work in your handwriting?'
 
2011-03-29 12:46:50 PM  

lordaction: Didn't that guy from KISS have his son get in trouble for doing this shiat as well?


Yes, but then he claimed some chinese ghost artists were the ones doing the ripoff while he was getting the credit for the story/design/whutever -- the most half assed excuse i've seen in a while.
 
2011-03-29 12:50:46 PM  
He should have gone into the music business instead of comics. 'Sampling' someone else work is considered a respectable and valid mode of expression there.
 
2011-03-29 12:51:09 PM  

Sarcastica75: My interview with Fark's Joe Peacock on his experience with Granito. (new window)

/don't mind if I do.


Interesting read, thanks.
 
2011-03-29 12:51:57 PM  
But honestly Monica, comic books are considered 'public domain' and you should be happy he just didn't 'lift' your whole comic and put his own name on it!
 
2011-03-29 12:52:32 PM  
i2.ytimg.com

Just say it, you're a tracer.


/My apologies to any inkers out there
 
2011-03-29 12:52:52 PM  
These people take comics and themselves way too seriously. They sound like six year-olds.
 
2011-03-29 12:53:27 PM  
 
hej
2011-03-29 12:58:58 PM  

hejscout: hey you guys check out what I said.

 
2011-03-29 01:01:22 PM  

Loki-L: He should have gone into the music business instead of comics. 'Sampling' someone else work is considered a respectable and valid mode of expression there.


This is not akin to sampling, this (new window)is
 
2011-03-29 01:01:31 PM  

Barbigazi: I wrote up a pretty good article about this dude. You guys should check it out.

Link (new window)


Thanks for sharing that!
 
2011-03-29 01:03:20 PM  
These people sound like six year-olds. They take themselves and comics way too seriously.

/completely my own work.
 
2011-03-29 01:03:25 PM  
NERD RAGE.

Y'know...if I was at a comics convention and I saw a full-size painting of Calvin and Hobbes walking across a snowy field...I know it's not a Watterson painting, and I know it's not even authorized by Watterson. I'd know that the guy is a hack and it doesn't matter if he traced it or not.
 
2011-03-29 01:11:17 PM  

Loki-L: He should have gone into the music business instead of comics. 'Sampling' someone else work is considered a respectable and valid mode of expression there.


At least with the music industry, there's a sense of building upon something else and a sense of homage in some way (excepting the whole Vanilla Ice/Bowie & Queen fiasco, and a couple of outlying cases like that). Sure, people rip things off all the time in the music industry, but usually when things are this blatant/obvious, they (a) pay royalties (b) give credit to the original artists.

This douche was outright stealing other people's work, adding nothing of value to it, and selling it as his own (while providing false credentials).
 
2011-03-29 01:11:21 PM  
These people take themselves and comics way too seriously. They sound like 6 year-olds.
 
2011-03-29 01:15:33 PM  
The above posts were ghost-written by me.
 
2011-03-29 01:16:07 PM  
Six year-olds take people way too seriously. They sound like themselves and these people comics.
 
2011-03-29 01:17:08 PM  

turbidum: but usually when things are this blatant/obvious, they (a) pay royalties (b) give credit to the original artists.


Usually is a keyword. I don't remember Paris Hilton paying any royalties to UB40 for stealing "Kingston Town"
 
2011-03-29 01:17:17 PM  

jayhawk88: The article did mention that he apparently changes stuff enough to potentially make it an "original" work.


The closest concept to that in our copyright law is the "derivative work", and the rights to that belong to the original artist as well.

There's only so much that can be done about Calvin-peeing-on-a-Chevy-logo decals, which are anonymously printed by the thousands and sell for a couple bucks apiece. But when a guy shows his fat bearded face at a comic con and claims authorial rights to a hand-drawn picture of Calvin & Hobbes walking in the snow, it's what IP attorneys like to call a slam dunk*.

/* IP attorneys do not actually call it a "slam dunk", as that term is a registered trademark of the National Basketball Association, and is licensed exclusively to EA Sports.
 
2011-03-29 01:18:13 PM  
They take six year-old comics, like people, Darmok and Gilad at Tinagra.

S*it, not I have to erase that and start again.
 
2011-03-29 01:18:30 PM  
This asshat deserves a couple dozen good punches to the face. He should feel free to copy that work too.
 
2011-03-29 01:18:52 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Just say it, you're a tracer.


/My apologies to any inkers out there


Came for Chasing Amy. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-03-29 01:20:35 PM  
Comic books: Serious business.
 
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