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(CNN) Interesting John Hinckley's doctor says he's no longer a threat. Zombie Reagan disagrees, brains   (cnn.com) divider line 44
More: Interesting, John Hinckley, forensic psychologist, burden of proof, Jimmy Carter, psychosis, Jodie Foster, Ronald Reagan, U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova  
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2011-03-27 03:23:36 AM
"Thirty years later, there is considerable evidence John Hinckley still has problems in his relationships with various women he has been dating, both inside and outside the hospital."

Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

/shame
 
2011-03-27 04:03:03 AM
Hinckley is no longer a threat to Ronald Reagan, because he's dead. Jodie Foster might not be too happy with this psycho walking around loose.
 
2011-03-27 05:16:42 AM
He's been in jail for quite awhile, and there's little doubt he was mentally incompetent at the time. Honestly, I think he's probably more likely to get threatened from a follower of St Reagan than any chance he is a threat to someone else.
 
2011-03-27 05:25:13 AM
sarty I'll date you.


(sarty Sell by April,31 2011)

There you've been Dated.
 
2011-03-27 06:02:36 AM
KkrrRRZZZZ: Honestly, I think he's probably more likely to get threatened from a follower of St Reagan than any chance he is a threat to someone else.

While I agree with this, he shot President Reagan. While I'm no ardent Reagan fan, I would think putting a non-lethal bullet into a president probably permanently ends your freedom.
 
2011-03-27 08:26:27 AM
Reagan is dead and Foster is a rugmuncher. Set this man free
 
2011-03-27 08:31:05 AM
The most famous alumnus of my high school.

/had a teacher who was his classmate
//yeah, he was weird as shiat
 
2011-03-27 08:36:59 AM
bingethinker
Jodie Foster might not be too happy with this psycho walking around loose.

Jodie's OK with psychos.

nighthawknews.files.wordpress.com
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2011-03-27 08:37:42 AM
HotSalsaZoot: tankjr:
Reagan is dead and Foster is a rugmuncher. Set this man free

Agreed. Hinckley, Charlie Manson and SirhanSirhan could get together and start a band. The Assassins. Death metal.


I suppose Manson would be the songwriter of that trio, not unlike Gary Brooker of The Procol Harum.
 
2011-03-27 08:40:02 AM
At the time, federal law put the burden on the prosecution to prove Hinckley was sane.

BRILLIANT. I hope they realized this doesn't work for the same logic "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work. I know they reversed it, but I wonder if it was for the actual logic of the issue.

ambassador_ahab: KkrrRRZZZZ: Honestly, I think he's probably more likely to get threatened from a follower of St Reagan than any chance he is a threat to someone else.

While I agree with this, he shot President Reagan. While I'm no ardent Reagan fan, I would think putting a non-lethal bullet into a president probably permanently ends your freedom.


I'm not sure what a non-lethal bullet is, the particular bullet just happened to not kill him.
 
2011-03-27 08:41:05 AM
I suspect there will be challenges from the Brady family on this.
 
2011-03-27 08:49:49 AM
I hated Reagan, and I still hate Reagan, but I completely fine with this guy being in a mental institution until he drops dead.
 
2011-03-27 08:54:51 AM
Braindeath: I hated Reagan, and I still hate Reagan, but I completely fine with this guy being in a mental institution until he drops dead.

It's not like Reagan's politics had anything to do with the attempt, usually doesn't, in fact Wikipedia suggests he actually stalked Carter beforehand. People who try it are generally just REALLY farkball crazy, and this guy really fits that bill.

Foster's also still alive, I'd be legitimately worried if I were her and he were to be released.
 
2011-03-27 08:55:08 AM
sarty: "Thirty years later, there is considerable evidence John Hinckley still has problems in his relationships with various women he has been dating, both inside and outside the hospital."

Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

/shame


He's been on supervised releases for a LONG time.
 
2011-03-27 08:59:36 AM
tankjr: Reagan is dead and Foster is a rugmuncher. Set this man free

Unfortunately, he created the wrong kind of rugmuncher, and failed to impress Jodie Foster.
 
2011-03-27 09:04:30 AM
http://www.rense.com/general45/hink.htm

I always thought Poppy Bush was trying to pull an LBJ on RR. Sometimes referred to as "A Texas Recount"

Tin Hat on
 
2011-03-27 09:06:43 AM
Came for Butters, leaving disappointed.

/Considering the timing of his attack could have started World War III just by process of events, I think he should be required to spend a little longer. Roughly 45 years.
 
2011-03-27 09:07:12 AM
He's been getting limited releases for 10 years now, without any reported problems. I'm not too worried.

//Anyone find a more recent photo of him?
 
2011-03-27 09:14:01 AM
If he'd only been able to aim, the man would be an unsung hero.

/And still a damn looney
//Reagan, still the only President worth shooting.
 
2011-03-27 09:15:55 AM
Somewhat relevant question: If he had killed Reagan, could he have been sentenced to death even if the crime happened in a state that didn't have the death penalty? Is attempting to kill the President considered treason?
 
2011-03-27 09:17:15 AM
Let's examine the record. This guy was motivated by the desire to bang Jodie Foster and shoot Ronald Reagan.
Exactly how did we determine that he was "crazy" to begin with?
 
2011-03-27 09:20:22 AM
miss diminutive: Somewhat relevant question: If he had killed Reagan, could he have been sentenced to death even if the crime happened in a state that didn't have the death penalty? Is attempting to kill the President considered treason?

I expect killing the President is a federal crime, which you can get the Federal death penalty for, like Tim McVeigh.
 
2011-03-27 09:26:43 AM
HotSalsaZoot: Another Government Employee:
I suspect there will be challenges from the Brady family on this.


I don't think the Brady's have a say on this. Robert Reed is dead and Florence is out grabbing crotch's. The kids? They don't care.


Bradys
crotches
 
2011-03-27 09:30:15 AM
miss diminutive: Somewhat relevant question: If he had killed Reagan, could he have been sentenced to death even if the crime happened in a state that didn't have the death penalty? Is attempting to kill the President considered treason?

Yes, but that's irrelevant, because he got the loony defense. State laws, and even the laws of other countries, don't matter one bit related to death penalties on a USA Federal Level.
 
2011-03-27 09:38:03 AM
Jedekai:
/Considering the timing of his attack could have started World War III just by process of events, I think he should be required to spend a little longer. Roughly 45 years.


You mind running this one past us-- the part about how the timing could have started World War III?

I've looked back at a history of January to March 1981 and didn't see anything particularly ominous and threatening. Maybe you have inside knowledge? The hostages were back. All was well... or so I thought...

At any rate, can you name other crimes where the effect of the timing of the crime on history, per se, had an effect on the sentence ultimately imposed? (E.g. would it have been a more serious crime, in your view, to have killed John Lennon when he was actually a productive member of the Beatles, instead of waiting until he had been sidetracked by Yoko? Would you have therefore imposed a longer sentence?)
 
2011-03-27 10:18:46 AM
Barakku: Braindeath: I hated Reagan, and I still hate Reagan, but I completely fine with this guy being in a mental institution until he drops dead.

It's not like Reagan's politics had anything to do with the attempt, usually doesn't, in fact Wikipedia suggests he actually stalked Carter beforehand. People who try it are generally just REALLY farkball crazy, and this guy really fits that bill.

Foster's also still alive, I'd be legitimately worried if I were her and he were to be released.


I know it wasn't, I was just adding to so it was clear I wasn't a Reagan worshipper who wanted the guy to stay in the asylum because of it.
 
2011-03-27 10:46:17 AM
Now that Jodie Foster has come out as a full on carpet muncher I think the threat to elected officials from Hinckley has changed. I suspect he'd try to impress her by taking on Hillary Clinton's fur burger.
 
2011-03-27 12:08:57 PM
Something isn't quote right about this whole story. Like we're all supposed to buy the story that John Hinkley was just some random nut that took a gun and shot a political figure WITHOUT ever seeing Sarah Palin's "target" map?

Simply unpossible.
 
2011-03-27 12:10:06 PM
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2011-03-27 12:19:33 PM
sarty: "Thirty years later, there is considerable evidence John Hinckley still has problems in his relationships with various women he has been dating, both inside and outside the hospital."

Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

/shame


Well, who did you try to assassinate? I suggest you change your name to Sirhan Sirhan and start telling chicks you're out on a ten day pass.
 
2011-03-27 12:21:26 PM
Barakku: At the time, federal law put the burden on the prosecution to prove Hinckley was sane.

BRILLIANT. I hope they realized this doesn't work for the same logic "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work. I know they reversed it, but I wonder if it was for the actual logic of the issue.

ambassador_ahab: KkrrRRZZZZ: Honestly, I think he's probably more likely to get threatened from a follower of St Reagan than any chance he is a threat to someone else.

While I agree with this, he shot President Reagan. While I'm no ardent Reagan fan, I would think putting a non-lethal bullet into a president probably permanently ends your freedom.

I'm not sure what a non-lethal bullet is, the particular bullet just happened to not kill him.


That's why he wasn't killed. The bullet was non-lethal.
 
2011-03-27 12:26:12 PM
John Hinckley? The guy whose daddy had dinner with George H. W. Bush the night before the assassination attempt? That John Hinckley?
 
2011-03-27 01:00:43 PM
DiamondDave: Something isn't quote right about this whole story. Like we're all supposed to buy the story that John Hinkley was just some random nut that took a gun and shot a political figure WITHOUT ever seeing Sarah Palin's "target" map?

Simply unpossible.


One of the Bush Family was having dinner with his family the evening before, too. Serious.

"Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year-old John Hinckley.


...


''It is not unusual for companies to enter into a joint drilling venture but to my knowledge there are no partnerships between Amoco and Vanderbuilt Energy,'' said Murphy. ''I have contacts with all the major companies but I had never heard of Hinckley until yesterday.
Bush told the Post he knew the Hinckley family because they had made large contributions to the vice president's campaign. He said he could not recall meeting John Hinckley Jr., who shot President Reagan and three other men as they exited the Washington Hilton Hotel Monday.

''I don't recognize any pictures of him,'' Bush said. ''I just wish I could see a better picture of him.''

Sharon Bush said she did not know the suspect.

''They (the Hinckleys) are a nice family ... and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign,'' she said. ''I understand he (John Hinckley) was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful.''

Another of the vice president's sons, George W. Bush, lived in Lubbock in 1978 and ran unsuccessfully for Congress. Police have said John Hinckley Jr. lived in Lubbock at that time and once attended Texas Tech University.

Young George Bush did not recall meeting the suspect.

''It's certainly conceivable that I met him or might have been introduced to him,'' he said. ''I don't recognize his face from the brief, kind of distorted thing they had on TV and the name doesn't ring any bells.

''I know he wasn't on our staff. I could check our volunteer rolls.''

Peter Teeley, the vice president's news secretary, said by telephone from Washington he knew nothing about any Hinckley-Bush family connection.

''I don't know a damned thing about it,'' Teeley told a Post reporter. ''I was talking to someone earlier tonight and I couldn't even remember his (Hinckley's) name. All I know is what you're telling me.''
 
2011-03-27 01:03:37 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: John Hinckley? The guy whose daddy had dinner with George H. W. Bush the night before the assassination attempt? That John Hinckley?

BTW, if you want to wear the tinfoil, you have to not confuse what actually happened, regarding the dinner.

Cheers!
 
2011-03-27 01:29:22 PM
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2011-03-27 01:36:17 PM
Barakku: I'm not sure what a non-lethal bullet is, the particular bullet just happened to not kill him.

See, a bullet is a bullet. But since this particular one did not kill him, it wasn't lethal, hence the term "non-lethal."
 
2011-03-27 01:42:07 PM
I did a psych rotation at St. E's where this guy is locked up during med school. He was operating the copy center at the time and you had to go to him to make all your copies.

/seemed like a normal dude...
//but still, as few copies as possible were made during those few months...
 
2011-03-27 01:58:19 PM
jodiefoster.wz.cz
 
2011-03-27 04:12:09 PM
thefnz1 : He's been on supervised releases for a LONG time.

He's was getting unsupervised releases 10 years ago. Since then, it's been a bit back and forth, but he's had a lot of time on the outside.

They should have just shot him.
 
2011-03-27 06:30:05 PM
A girl. I'm a girl. Why does everyone assume I'm a guy??

Feral_and_Preposterous: sarty: "Thirty years later, there is considerable evidence John Hinckley still has problems in his relationships with various women he has been dating, both inside and outside the hospital."

Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

/shame

Well, who did you try to assassinate? I suggest you change your name to Sirhan Sirhan and start telling chicks you're out on a ten day pass.
 
2011-03-27 06:34:45 PM
sarty: A girl. I'm a girl. Why does everyone assume I'm a guy??

Feral_and_Preposterous: sarty: "Thirty years later, there is considerable evidence John Hinckley still has problems in his relationships with various women he has been dating, both inside and outside the hospital."

Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

/shame

Well, who did you try to assassinate? I suggest you change your name to Sirhan Sirhan and start telling chicks you're out on a ten day pass.


You don't show your breastages in your profile photo and you could be one of the many very feminine looking men on the internet that have long hair?

Dunno. Other possibility is people say that before they look at your profile.
 
2011-03-27 09:45:30 PM
sarty: A girl. I'm a girl. Why does everyone assume I'm a guy??

Well, in this case...

sarty: Ok, WHAT? This guy can get a date, check that--many dates, and I can't??

On Fark, it's generally assumed (however erroneously) that any woman has but to crook her finger to have dozens of guys panting over her. Therefore (by Fark logic) if you can't get a date, you must be the stereotypical Mom's-basement-dwelling white male.

Like most assumptions based on stereotypes, it's a crock of shiat.
 
2011-03-28 12:24:45 AM
Reagan sucked big time.

This man should be locked up forever.

In the same cell with Charlie Manson.

Yeah, I went there.
 
2011-03-28 10:14:25 AM
How many federal and/or state tax dollars do you suppose are spent each year so that this fellow can walk among us?
 
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