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(Slate)   "OMG" finally makes it into the Oxford English Dictionary after years of use. 96 years, to be precise. WTF?   (slate.com ) divider line
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2011-03-26 03:07:44 PM  
FFFFfffffffffffffff.......
 
2011-03-26 03:13:41 PM  
omgwtfpwnd.
 
2011-03-26 03:14:18 PM  
Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".
 
2011-03-26 03:14:32 PM  
Tisk

www.fadedyouthblog.com
 
2011-03-26 03:15:27 PM  
That won't stop me from biatch slapping anyone who uses either of those expressions verbally.
 
2011-03-26 03:17:03 PM  
TL; DR
 
2011-03-26 03:20:45 PM  
Junk culture in Oxford English Dictionary? It's more likely than you think
 
2011-03-26 03:25:21 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel.


The primary way that people use dictionaries to look up unfamiliar words. If you're too busy telling people which words they *should* use rather than describing the words that people *do* use, you've essentially made an irrelevant product. If someone encounters "OMG" in a text (and I'm sure many a middle school English teacher has), why should they not be able to look it up in a dictionary to see what it means?
 
2011-03-26 03:27:43 PM  
The OED team has also admitted... a new sense for the word heart: "to love" (as in "I heart Slate"), which was first seen in print in a 1983 Associated Press article.

img34.imageshack.us

The "I heart N.Y." logo has been around since 1977, so seriously I doubt 1983 was the first usage of heart in that manner.

This reminds me of a few years back when a movie made the word "NOT" popular (in the same way that Borat uses it) and people were convinced it was a new thing. Someone finally dug an old Steve Martin standup act from the 70s and proved them wrong.
 
2011-03-26 03:45:55 PM  
If you SAY "Oh Em Gee" or "Double U Tee Eff" you are some special kind of dumbshiat.
 
2011-03-26 03:51:44 PM  

Kar98: If you SAY "Oh Em Gee" or "Double U Tee Eff" you are some special kind of dumbshiat.


Nah, I like to spell those out... oh aitch eee emm gee eee eee. But I only do it ironically.
 
2011-03-26 03:53:36 PM  
EABD DIAF
 
2011-03-26 04:05:51 PM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2011-03-26 04:09:08 PM  
I just finished reading "Reading the OED" so this thread is relevant to my interests.
 
2011-03-26 04:14:07 PM  
lizrevision.com
 
2011-03-26 04:29:52 PM  
FTFA: Other additions this quarter include muffin top

superspark.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-03-26 04:44:28 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".


My research project for the last few years involved transcribing and illustrating a series of late 16th century texts from English explorers. Without the OED, we'd have about 50 words with no real context.
 
2011-03-26 04:56:05 PM  
How bizarre.
 
2011-03-26 05:29:28 PM  

Zombalupagus: This reminds me of a few years back when a movie made the word "NOT" popular (in the same way that Borat uses it) and people were convinced it was a new thing. Someone finally dug an old Steve Martin standup act from the 70s and proved them wrong.


I'm quite sure that I saw the same usage of "not" in a Little Nemo in Slumberland comic from around 1907. Certainly not new when the Wayne's World films were made.
 
2011-03-26 05:32:13 PM  
words - stuff we chose to say and kinda agree on in terms of their meaning.

/its all arbitrary, yo
 
2011-03-26 05:36:24 PM  
OED is now the home of l33t hax0rs.
 
2011-03-26 05:37:57 PM  
"OMG" finally makes it into the Oxford English Dictionary after years of use. 96 years, to be precise. WTF?

A carnal maneuver undertaken by two people who have become deeply intimate with one another. But that's not important right now.
 
2011-03-26 05:44:36 PM  
YGTBFKM
 
2011-03-26 05:45:40 PM  
OMFGROFLMAOPOCALYPSE
 
2011-03-26 05:49:19 PM  
Nosht?
 
2011-03-26 05:49:36 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2011-03-26 05:51:14 PM  
Big deal! When is ZOMG going to make it into the ZOED?
 
2011-03-26 05:51:15 PM  
They're putting it in twice?

/giggity
 
2011-03-26 05:51:45 PM  
OMG - OM Group, Inc. (NYSE)

35.60 +0.09 (0.25%) Mar 25 4:03pm ET

Open: 35.73
High: 36.47
Low: 35.39

Volume: 139,385
Avg Vol: 190,000
Mkt Cap: 1.10B
 
2011-03-26 05:53:09 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".


By your language in this post you come across as a prescriptivist.

I posit that the most rational approach to language is clearly somewhere in between descriptivism and prescriptivism (just as with most things in life, which lie in shades of gray).

Dictionaries *should* be descriptivist, insofar as they document and define how language and verbiage are used by a given language-speaking population at a given time. But prescribed rules of grammar are still very useful in teaching language and helping to ensure clear communication over time.

I think it's silly to choose one view over the other, as language will continue to evolve regardless of the role of prescriptivism, while clearly there must be more than just descriptivism in order to make sense of that evolving language.

/I _abhor_ the Scrabble "dictionaries"--chock full of useless, archaic & foreign words that would never be used by anyone in daily speech, thrown in just to make playing the game easier.
//My favorite house Scrabble ruleset is: You must be able to use the word in a sentence AND find it in a non-Scrabble dictionary.
 
2011-03-26 05:56:22 PM  
What about OMFG ?
 
2011-03-26 06:00:53 PM  
OK fine, for sure for sure.
It's a Fark cliche, and there is no cure.
 
2011-03-26 06:07:33 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: I just finished reading "Reading the OED" so this thread is relevant to my interests.


So did I. It wanted to be "Word Freak" or "The Know-It-All", but it wasn't. It was more like "Crossworld". (But I paid employee discount price on a Barnes and Noble bargain book, so that was okay.)

"The Professor and the Madman" and "The Meaning of Everything" were much better. I want to read Simon Winchester's new one, "The Alice Behind Wonderland".
 
2011-03-26 06:16:12 PM  
FUBAR may be waning.

F*cked Up Beyond All Repair.

Google it.
 
2011-03-26 06:19:58 PM  
"frequent use"? Are you serious? So where is BMSMA?
 
2011-03-26 06:21:14 PM  
SUCKMYNUTS

I'm not doing this right.
 
2011-03-26 06:21:15 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".


And Samuel Johnson wept.
 
2011-03-26 06:23:09 PM  
Half Right
/I _abhor_ the Scrabble "dictionaries"--chock full of useless, archaic & foreign words that would never be used by anyone in daily speech, thrown in just to make playing the game easier.
//My favorite house Scrabble ruleset is: You must be able to use the word in a sentence AND find it in a non-Scrabble dictionary.


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2011-03-26 06:28:56 PM  
KILL ALL HUMANS
 
2011-03-26 06:29:47 PM  

Zombalupagus: The OED team has also admitted... a new sense for the word heart: "to love" (as in "I heart Slate"), which was first seen in print in a 1983 Associated Press article.

The "I heart N.Y." logo has been around since 1977, so seriously I doubt 1983 was the first usage of heart in that manner.


Was coming here to say this. To be fair, however, the slogan is "I love NY", not "I heart NY". As the article notes, and it isn't the ♥ that made it into the OED but a new definition for "heart".
 
2011-03-26 06:33:06 PM  

SuperTramp: FUBAR may be waning.

F*cked Up Beyond All Repair.

Google it.


I name all my usb flash drives FUBAR.

/also have Tango and Cash on DvD
 
2011-03-26 06:34:59 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".


Luckily, your opinion of whether a word is "right or wrong" has no effect on us or our dictionaries. English is a wonderfully fluid and ever-changing language. You should get used to it.
 
2011-03-26 06:42:51 PM  
my first real passion was lexicography. Then I found out they are the most underpaid, under appreciated group on earth, and I had school debt to pay. But, I can think of few fields on this earth more substantially controversial than lexicography.

The OED has a very special place in my heart. However, I have found they have had a slight latinate bias. Having studied old english and a dozen old germanic languages, I happen to think that the OED leans towards Latin and away from germanic lines. I wish the American Heritage people would undertake an endeavor as grand as the OED, because I prefer their more obvious indo-european bias.
 
2011-03-26 06:44:40 PM  

apeiron242: Most dictionaries are written by descriptivists. A useless class of people who slavishly document every use of a word (right or wrong) as gospel. Then lazy and ignorant people will point to the 10th entry for some word they just misused yelling, "but, but, but it's in the DICTIONARY".


And if you don't like you, you can move to France.
 
2011-03-26 06:47:38 PM  
SuperTramp FUBAR may be waning.

F*cked Up Beyond All Repair.

Google it.


I've heard "FUGAZI" used before, and still have no idea what that one means...

/guess i could google it, but that'd take too much work
//plus i like the mystery
 
2011-03-26 06:56:26 PM  

Pretty Pit Bull Puppies: SuperTramp FUBAR may be waning.

F*cked Up Beyond All Repair.

Google it.

I've heard "FUGAZI" used before, and still have no idea what that one means...

/guess i could google it, but that'd take too much work
//plus i like the mystery


Ok people, we need to work together on this one. Fupa. It belongs in the OED. Make it happen.
 
2011-03-26 06:57:09 PM  

coralfixation: How bizarre.


clever, subtle.
 
2011-03-26 06:58:21 PM  
That's what she said.
 
2011-03-26 07:13:30 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2011-03-26 07:53:52 PM  
OMG, OED! WTF?
 
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