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(Sydney Morning Herald)   Polls close in state election where the Liberals are expected to sweep to a massive victory. But this is Australia, where voting is compulsory, the Liberals are conservative and subby got to vote for the Socialist Alliance and a nudist   (smh.com.au) divider line 56
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2011-03-26 08:28:47 AM
Lucky Bloke!
 
2011-03-26 08:35:23 AM
I'm assuming the nudist was more "bleeaaarrghhh" nudist than "Elle McPherson" nudist.
 
2011-03-26 08:39:49 AM
Compulsory voting is fascism.
 
2011-03-26 08:43:10 AM
I voted Greens straight down the line. All 16 votes.

/Yay for preferential voting!!
//Boo for the Liberal Party getting into office!
///Labor didn't deserve a win - most corrupt political party I've ever seen, and that's saying something!!
 
2011-03-26 08:43:26 AM

EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.


Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.
 
2011-03-26 08:46:51 AM
29.media.tumblr.com

Hey! Mr. Prime Minister!
 
2011-03-26 08:56:03 AM

RealFarknMcCoy2: I voted Greens straight down the line. All 16 votes.

/Yay for preferential voting!!
//Boo for the Liberal Party getting into office!
///Labor didn't deserve a win - most corrupt political party I've ever seen, and that's saying something!!


Yeah good luck with that, here hoping the greens get fark all in this election, that bob brown dies, and that howard makes a comeback!
 
2011-03-26 08:56:26 AM

EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.


No, I believe a political ideology that advocates Authoratarian, Totalitarian, nationalist political system that focuses on subjugation of individuals to the state and suppression of opposing parties/ideologies is fascism.

Meanwhile compulsory voting, which comes from the idea that it's a citizens duty to make sure that proper democratic governance is maintained, is kind of the opposite of an ideology dedicated to suppressing democratic views. Having to vote an average of once a year (once for local, state, federal government every 3 years) isn't much of a burden.
 
2011-03-26 08:58:18 AM
His opponent and outgoing NSW Premier, Kristina Kennelly, looks hot, I'd fark her. She needs a good farking now that she's been ousted.
 
2011-03-26 08:58:19 AM
Back to the nudist...
 
2011-03-26 09:01:45 AM
 
2011-03-26 09:06:03 AM
maddermaxx Quote 2011-03-26 09:01:45 AM
numbone: Back to the nudist...

Stuart Baanstra said he was a nudist and gay man who "believes in the rights of people to live without clothes".

:/


nevermind
 
2011-03-26 09:10:02 AM
Are the liberals conservative for the same reason that the toilets drain in the other direction?
 
2011-03-26 09:37:27 AM
I forgot to vote today.

Voting is compulsory in NSW. So I'll probably be fined for not voting.

I'm OK with that.

Doesn't infringe on my FreedomTM at all. I'd much rather be fined for not voting than deal with a US form of politics.
 
2011-03-26 09:43:31 AM

j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.


Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.
 
2011-03-26 09:43:50 AM

maddermaxx: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Meanwhile compulsory voting, which comes from the idea that it's a citizens duty to make sure that proper democratic governance is maintained, is kind of the opposite of an ideology dedicated to suppressing democratic views. Having to vote an average of once a year (once for local, state, federal government every 3 years) isn't much of a burden.


First they came for my right not to vote...

I've seen what goes on in AUS and compulsory voting is part of a larger framework of regressive, over-reaching governmental interference and control.

It's not fascism like Musolini but people call Bud Light beer.
 
2011-03-26 09:57:50 AM

SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.


But if you don't compel voting by people who don't care enough to vote voluntarily, then something.
 
2011-03-26 10:03:28 AM
I'm always sadden to see links about NSW, my brain keeps see NSFW and I'm always disappointed.
 
2011-03-26 10:04:51 AM

SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.


Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.
 
2011-03-26 10:11:57 AM

EnochEmery: maddermaxx: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Meanwhile compulsory voting, which comes from the idea that it's a citizens duty to make sure that proper democratic governance is maintained, is kind of the opposite of an ideology dedicated to suppressing democratic views. Having to vote an average of once a year (once for local, state, federal government every 3 years) isn't much of a burden.

First they came for my right not to vote...

I've seen what goes on in AUS and compulsory voting is part of a larger framework of regressive, over-reaching governmental interference and control.

It's not fascism like Musolini but people call Bud Light beer.


It's not like you can't just come up with an excuse, like having sex with 30 guys. (old fark window)

Text of the article, since the original is gone.
 
2011-03-26 10:12:47 AM
The only problem I have about compulsory voting in the States is this.

As of now we have low voter turn out because most people don't care enough about politics so most of the people that vote at least following the politicians and, good or bad, vote for a person for a reason.

If we moved to compulsory voting we'd have millions of people who still don't care about politics and would end up voting for a person based on things like "I like sound of his name", "I saw a sign", "I just closed my eyes and picked", "Picked the person at the top of the list", or we'd have a million write ins for I C Wiener, Mike Hunt or Hugh G Rexion
 
2011-03-26 10:18:25 AM

Trapper439: SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.

Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.


No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.
 
2011-03-26 10:23:59 AM

lenfromak: Are the liberals conservative for the same reason that the toilets drain in the other direction?


More that the centre line in most of the rest of the "Western" world is actually down the centre. As opposed to in the USA, where the centre line is way over on the right somewhere.

In most of Europe, the liberals are also a right of centre party.
 
2011-03-26 10:27:16 AM
Oh Bummer ! Ex Premier ( Govenor ) Kristina Keneally was an American citizen til the year 2000.
 
2011-03-26 10:33:21 AM

dennysgod: The only problem I have about compulsory voting in the States is this.

As of now we have low voter turn out because most people don't care enough about politics so most of the people that vote at least following the politicians and, good or bad, vote for a person for a reason.

If we moved to compulsory voting we'd have millions of people who still don't care about politics and would end up voting for a person based on things like "I like sound of his name", "I saw a sign", "I just closed my eyes and picked", "Picked the person at the top of the list", or we'd have a million write ins for I C Wiener, Mike Hunt or Hugh G Rexion


You don't think that the average American would have more interest in politics if they had to vote? Your average Aussie could tell you a few basic things about each of the major parties, even if they're planning to vote informally (you just have to vote, no rule about voting "properly" - our informal votes and donkey-votes are probably higher than yours.)

Then again, our party lines are much stronger ... not sure it'd play the same in the US where your pollies regularly vote against party lines. I guess you'd have to know the platform of each of the politicians in your specific area, which would be more complicated.
 
2011-03-26 10:40:01 AM

SharkTrager: Trapper439: SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.

Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.

No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.


A full quarter of your adult population have a criminal record. You have 10 times the rate of imprisonment of most other countries. You're government has imprisoned people without charge indefinitely, tortured people, invaded countries on falsified evidence, had people literally hounded to death over falsified charges, sold chemical weaponry dictators, traded arms with Iran to fund terrorist organisations, and allowed the government to illegally wiretap your phones and monitor online activities without any repercussions, and you get photographed naked or get your balls cupped every time you catch a plane... and that's only scratching the surface. I mean, there is almost NOTHING too far out there for America.

I just wonder what Australia has done that was "too far out there" from your perspective? FFS, we legalised prostitution, made marijuana a non-criminal (or at least non-jailable) offence in most states... Perhaps that's what's "too far out there" from your perspective? We're too liberal?
 
2011-03-26 10:41:40 AM

SharkTrager: No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.


Examples? Because I've noticed that many farkers believe that Aussies have massively censored internet (we don't (new window)), and that they've banned small breasts in porn (they haven't (new window)).

If you've got other real examples, I'd love to hear them :)
 
2011-03-26 11:04:18 AM

SharkTrager: Trapper439: SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.

Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.

No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.


Would you care to enumerate these "things"?
 
2011-03-26 11:04:58 AM

maddermaxx: SharkTrager: Trapper439: SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.

Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.

No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.

A full quarter of your adult population have a criminal record. You have 10 times the rate of imprisonment of most other countries. You're government has imprisoned people without charge indefinitely, tortured people, invaded countries on falsified evidence, had people literally hounded to death over falsified charges, sold chemical weaponry dictators, traded arms with Iran to fund terrorist organisations, and allowed the government to illegally wiretap your phones and monitor online activities without any repercussions, and you get photographed naked or get your balls cupped every time you catch a plane... and that's only scratching the surface. I mean, there is almost NOTHING too far out there for America.

I just wonder what Australia has done that was "too far out there" from your perspective? FFS, we legalised prostitution, made marijuana a non-criminal (or at least non-jailable) offence in most states... Perhaps that's what's "too far out there" from your perspective? We're too liberal?


Well said, mate.

I'd love to hear how we Aussies aren't free. Tell me how I'm not just as free as you, SharkTrager. Go on, I dare you. Tell me how I'm not every bit as free as you are.

And for that matter, tell me what you think FreedomTM actually means. I think it's just a word your lot bandy about while we actually live it.

Tell me how I'm not free, mate. Because I just don't see it.
 
2011-03-26 11:05:19 AM

j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.


img.photobucket.com
 
2011-03-26 11:14:41 AM

Trapper439: maddermaxx: SharkTrager: Trapper439: SharkTrager: j0e_average: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Uh-huh. And look what happens in this country where we have low voter turnout.

Look at the political results in Australia and tell me compulsory voting has made it better.

Holy shiat, you're actually claiming that Australia would be a better place if voting wasn't compulsory.

What is this I don't even.

Seriously, my Freedom is not infringed on in any way by the fact that I have to go down to the local school and vote once every couple of years. It's not that big of a deal.

No, I am stating the fact that the compulsory voting is not making it better. No offense, but Australia has things happening that even the Republicans would find too far out there.

A full quarter of your adult population have a criminal record. You have 10 times the rate of imprisonment of most other countries. You're government has imprisoned people without charge indefinitely, tortured people, invaded countries on falsified evidence, had people literally hounded to death over falsified charges, sold chemical weaponry dictators, traded arms with Iran to fund terrorist organisations, and allowed the government to illegally wiretap your phones and monitor online activities without any repercussions, and you get photographed naked or get your balls cupped every time you catch a plane... and that's only scratching the surface. I mean, there is almost NOTHING too far out there for America.

I just wonder what Australia has done that was "too far out there" from your perspective? FFS, we legalised prostitution, made marijuana a non-criminal (or at least non-jailable) offence in most states... Perhaps that's what's "too far out there" from your perspective? We're too liberal?

Well said, mate.

I'd love to hear how we Aussies aren't free. Tell me how I'm not just as free as you, SharkTrager. Go on, I dare you. Tell me how I'm not every bit as free as you are.

And for that matter, tell me what you think FreedomTM actually means. I think it's just a word your lot bandy about while we actually live it.

Tell me how I'm not free, mate. Because I just don't see it.


Awaits his response eagerly.

cdn0.knowyourmeme.com
 
2011-03-26 11:55:52 AM
EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Compulsory voting is nothing more than the responsibility that comes with the rights. What's so hard to understand about that?

Freedom to drive? Responsibilities.
Freedom to own firearms? Responsibilities.
Freedom to raise your children how you want? Responsibilities.

Freedom to vote? Should probably come with a lot more responsibility than it does.
 
2011-03-26 12:16:38 PM

thisman: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Compulsory voting is nothing more than the responsibility that comes with the rights. What's so hard to understand about that?

Freedom to drive? Responsibilities.
Freedom to own firearms? Responsibilities.
Freedom to raise your children how you want? Responsibilities.

Freedom to vote? Should probably come with a lot more responsibility than it does.


You can choose not to drive, own firearms or have children.
You're suggesting there should be more responsibilities required for those who vote? Maybe a test, of some sort?

Meanwhile:

Link (new window)
 
2011-03-26 12:48:47 PM

EnochEmery: thisman: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

Compulsory voting is nothing more than the responsibility that comes with the rights. What's so hard to understand about that?

Freedom to drive? Responsibilities.
Freedom to own firearms? Responsibilities.
Freedom to raise your children how you want? Responsibilities.

Freedom to vote? Should probably come with a lot more responsibility than it does.

You can choose not to drive, own firearms or have children.
You're suggesting there should be more responsibilities required for those who vote? Maybe a test, of some sort?

Meanwhile:

Link (new window)


Yep, and you can choose not to go to school, or not to pay taxes. Oh wait... you can't. You have to do your duty to society in some ways.

But that aside, you're making a pretty blatantly stupid point anyway. You can choose not to Vote too... however, you have to fill out the paperwork, and provide an excuse to do so. And guess what, by the time that's done, you might as well have just gone in and bloody voted anyway. At most, you'll only get a tiny fine anyway, so you don't HAVE to vote... it's just far easier TO vote. You don't HAVE to drive a car... it's just often far easier TO drive a car.

Now, I know you might not care for your country at all, you might not think you have a duty to anyone or anything. But Australians as a whole have said "Citizens have a duty to uphold our democracy", and our voting laws are a reflection of that. With power comes responsibility.
 
2011-03-26 12:57:14 PM
Oh, and I thought I'd just add for your edification that, while we don't have a specific bill of rights, our actual rights are pretty well protected, and nearly as broad as America's specific rights, however they're a mixture of complex constitutional wording and judicial rulings. Your constitutions have more broad and simpler wording, but it's interpretation relies just as heavily on Judicial interpretation as ours.
 
2011-03-26 01:52:01 PM

maddermaxx: numbone: Back to the nudist...

Stuart Baanstra said he was a nudist and gay man who "believes in the rights of people to live without clothes".

:/


Well, I believe we should go to Parliament and paint it purple!
 
2011-03-26 02:19:39 PM

lenfromak: Are the liberals conservative for the same reason that the toilets drain in the other direction?


Why does my toilet drain the other direction? I'm in Oklahoma...
 
2011-03-26 02:26:41 PM

dennysgod: The only problem I have about compulsory voting in the States is this.

As of now we have low voter turn out because most people don't care enough about politics so most of the people that vote at least following the politicians and, good or bad, vote for a person for a reason.

If we moved to compulsory voting we'd have millions of people who still don't care about politics and would end up voting for a person based on things like "I like sound of his name", "I saw a sign", "I just closed my eyes and picked", "Picked the person at the top of the list", or we'd have a million write ins for I C Wiener, Mike Hunt or Hugh G Rexion


You forgot Haywood Jablomi.
And concidering the outcome, I'd suggest that's already how most of the voters pick.
 
2011-03-26 02:31:11 PM

mikdeetx: His opponent and outgoing NSW Premier, Kristina Kennelly, looks hot, I'd fark her. She needs a good farking now that she's been ousted.


For a sec there, I thought you had a NSFW premier.
 
2011-03-26 03:05:31 PM
Hey has anyone mentioned that the abreviation for New Sout Wales makes farkers think "Not Safe For Work"?
 
2011-03-26 03:12:32 PM

EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.


And what about jury duty?
 
2011-03-26 03:24:20 PM

MrEricSir: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

And what about jury duty?


Sometimes I think we Americans don't really understand the meaning of the word duty, so much so that people who actually do their duty are hailed as heroes - an 18 yo going to enlist in the Army is a 'hero', a teacher who taught all her students to read is a 'hero', and a parent who reads to his children is also a 'hero'. When, in fact, they're doing their duty to their country, their profession, and their family. I think it's because we like to think we have the Freedomtm to do whatev, so the idea of 'duty' is distasteful; consequently we're amazed that a man could choose to read to his children since he obviously has the freedom to not do it.
 
2011-03-26 05:57:51 PM

MrEricSir: EnochEmery: Compulsory voting is fascism.

And what about jury duty?


Jury Duty in the US is farked.

For one thing, state and city employees get full pay for jury duty, while private sector people only get $15 a day.

And yes, the requirement is fascist, despite the fact that it's very simple to not get selected to a jury (just ask about jury nullification and you're out).

By the time everything is said and done, a jury is comprised of govt employees looking for some paid time off, and unemployed folks with nothing better to do.

If it were elective, it might be the same, but it sure wouldn't be any worse.
 
2011-03-26 06:16:15 PM

maddermaxx:
Now, I know you might not care for your country at all, you might not think you have a duty to anyone or anything. But Australians as a whole have said "Citizens have a duty to uphold our democracy", and our voting laws are a reflection of that. With power comes responsibility.


In the US we have the right to remain silent.
Voting is political speech, and I believe people should not be forced to speak if they don't wish to.
I get that you don't - it doesn't surprise me.
You may be in for a shock, tho, when your complex constitutional wording and judicial rulings aren't there to protect you when your government passes regressive legislation.
Maybe it won't be about you, tho - maybe just for the gays, Muslims or some other minority group you're not a part of.
Then you can continue harping on about how great your freedoms are.
 
2011-03-26 06:18:55 PM

mugachino: RealFarknMcCoy2: I voted Greens straight down the line. All 16 votes.

/Yay for preferential voting!!
//Boo for the Liberal Party getting into office!
///Labor didn't deserve a win - most corrupt political party I've ever seen, and that's saying something!!

Yeah good luck with that, here hoping the greens get fark all in this election, that bob brown dies, and that howard makes a comeback!


Riiiiiight. Howard's gonna make a comeback like I'm going to be crowned Queen of Sweden. And wishing Bob Brown dead is just farking inhuman. Fark you in the arse with an icepick, you piece of shiat.

/Bob Brown was the only man with BALLS enough to stand up to G W Bush when he was here. He's more of a man than you or any of your pansy-arse Liberal politicians ever dreamt of being.
 
2011-03-26 06:23:02 PM

EnochEmery: maddermaxx:
Now, I know you might not care for your country at all, you might not think you have a duty to anyone or anything. But Australians as a whole have said "Citizens have a duty to uphold our democracy", and our voting laws are a reflection of that. With power comes responsibility.

In the US we have the right to remain silent.
Voting is political speech, and I believe people should not be forced to speak if they don't wish to.
I get that you don't - it doesn't surprise me.
You may be in for a shock, tho, when your complex constitutional wording and judicial rulings aren't there to protect you when your government passes regressive legislation.
Maybe it won't be about you, tho - maybe just for the gays, Muslims or some other minority group you're not a part of.
Then you can continue harping on about how great your freedoms are.


You're a complete and utter farktard. You have NO idea what you're talking about. Having lived in both countries, I can tell you that I enjoy far MORE freedoms here in Australia than I did in the US.

/I can protest in non-freedom-of-speech-zones, for one
//I can throw an egg at a politician and not get gunned down by the Secret Service
///I can run for Prime Minister here, too, even though I was born in the US.
 
2011-03-26 06:36:50 PM
I'm not going to make comparisons between the US and Australia in any other way besides elections and voting. (Ok, maybe just one - give Australia constitutionally protected freedom of speech).

Fark you LNP (our right wingers), and the inevitable cuts to social services such as public hospitals, schools, etc and giving it all to private, wealthy ones.

I am all for Australia's preferential voting system, as opposed to the US's Weeners the post system. Why?

In a representative democracy we get to vote for our candidate of choice to act on our behalf, whether they be pinker than a Barbie convention or as right-wing as selling out your government to the highest bidder.

If your candidate doesn't win they or you can choose who that vote goes to. It sends a clear message about the sort of policies you want. So independents or non-major party members have a real chance of representing you.

In the US system it is Weeners the post voting. You choose your candidate but realistically you're only voting democrat or republican. And while many of you might argue passionately for one or the other, how many of you actually do feel 'represented' by either?
 
2011-03-26 06:57:44 PM

RealFarknMcCoy2: mugachino: RealFarknMcCoy2: I voted Greens straight down the line. All 16 votes.

/Yay for preferential voting!!
//Boo for the Liberal Party getting into office!
///Labor didn't deserve a win - most corrupt political party I've ever seen, and that's saying something!!

Yeah good luck with that, here hoping the greens get fark all in this election, that bob brown dies, and that howard makes a comeback!

Riiiiiight. Howard's gonna make a comeback like I'm going to be crowned Queen of Sweden. And wishing Bob Brown dead is just farking inhuman. Fark you in the arse with an icepick, you piece of shiat.

/Bob Brown was the only man with BALLS enough to stand up to G W Bush when he was here. He's more of a man than you or any of your pansy-arse Liberal politicians ever dreamt of being.


Bob's gone to gaol and been sued to the point of bankruptcy for his protests to stand up for his principles on which he stands, notably the environment, and still comes back fighting. He is a true role-model for politicians!

www.artistquirk.com
 
2011-03-26 07:09:09 PM

EnochEmery: Jury Duty in the US is farked.

For one thing, state and city employees get full pay for jury duty, while private sector people only get $15 a day.

And yes, the requirement is fascist, despite the fact that it's very simple to not get selected to a jury (just ask about jury nullification and you're out).

By the time everything is said and done, a jury is comprised of govt employees looking for some paid time off, and unemployed folks with nothing better to do.

If it were elective, it might be the same, but it sure wouldn't be any worse.


So the solution is to force private companies to pay people to do their civic duty?
 
2011-03-26 09:54:17 PM
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