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(Chicago Breaking News)   Chicago suburb wants to install safer roundabouts, but all they seem to do is go around in circles   (chicagobreakingnews.com) divider line 83
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2011-03-23 02:59:12 PM  
you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh
 
2011-03-23 03:06:03 PM  
Billy Preston
The Man

/all I could think of... I'm dizzy now


We've started to use these in New Jersey and they seem to work well. Also, while driving around France I noticed these everywhere and they worked like a charm.
/Jersey... home of the jug handle and Jersey barrier
 
2011-03-23 03:08:49 PM  

namatad: you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh


There's no difference.

//Feel better?

//"Residents remained skeptical until the project at Cottage Road and 166th Street was complete and they had a chance to try it, Wynsma said.

Since it opened, there have been no multicar accidents at what was previously a high-crash intersection, he said."
 
2011-03-23 03:16:51 PM  
My first experience with "real" roundabouts was in Ireland, so I had that whole driving on the wrong side of the road thing to deal with as well. They connect major roadways with roundabouts. The first try was a little intimidating, but they are completely idiot proof. No clue if they are American proof.
 
2011-03-23 03:22:18 PM  
We put a two-laner in here at one of our busiest and most crashiest intersections.

Before the decision was made and during construction people were screaming about it, but now that it's in even the naysayers have admitted it's way better than sitting at those friggin' lights forever.
 
2011-03-23 03:27:53 PM  
Good. They really do need to improve driving there, especially through the sound and i and out the valley. Don't even get me started about in and around the lake!
 
2011-03-23 04:58:28 PM  
Big Ben
Parliament
 
2011-03-23 05:22:35 PM  

Wrong_Intentions: especially through the sound and i and out the valley. D


WIN!
 
2011-03-23 05:38:04 PM  
Marlins come out of the sky and stand there.
 
2011-03-23 05:40:12 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Billy Preston
The Man

/all I could think of... I'm dizzy now


We've started to use these in New Jersey and they seem to work well. Also, while driving around France I noticed these everywhere and they worked like a charm.
/Jersey... home of the jug handle and Jersey barrier


DAMMIT! I just came here to post that!



Approves
 
2011-03-23 05:41:05 PM  
Let me try that again...

ecx.images-amazon.com

/Approves!
 
2011-03-23 05:43:53 PM  
Link (new window) We call it the roundabout of death. Especially for pedestrians.
 
2011-03-23 05:45:30 PM  
Pffft... We have the Pinehurst traffic circle, 5 state roads meet at the traffic circle.
 
2011-03-23 05:47:09 PM  
"My concern is, are there other options? Why would we do something that's not familiar to the Midwest?"


and that's why I left.
 
2011-03-23 05:47:11 PM  

namatad: you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh


I actually looked this up briefly on Google and it seems that the main difference is that:

Traffic Circles are huge and big and, most importantly, are not controlled on entry. They tend to allow people to go at very high speeds.

Roundabouts are generally smaller and you have to yield to traffic before entering. Roundabouts tend to be smaller and as a result, slower.
 
2011-03-23 05:47:36 PM  
Looks kids, it's Big Ben.
 
2011-03-23 05:47:58 PM  
What we need are turbo roundabouts.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-03-23 05:56:12 PM  
I love people that complain about things like this.

"People thought, 'This is crazy, who's going to know who's supposed to go and who is supposed to yield?'"

That may be the dumbest thing I've read today.
 
2011-03-23 05:59:55 PM  
We converted a bunch of the worst intersections in town to roundabouts and they work brilliantly. Of course, all the stupid old right-wing retards mail endless editorials deriding them as complicated, dangerous and Euro-socialist.

*sigh*

Republicans: why are they so stupid?
 
2011-03-23 06:00:59 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Looks kids, it's Big Ben.


zzzzzz

img243.imageshack.us

/Simpsons in England was funny too..
 
2011-03-23 06:01:33 PM  
I remember when they installed a roundabout in the Wal-Mart parking lot near where I used to live, and people kept plowing straight through them out of spite.
 
2011-03-23 06:02:02 PM  

namatad: you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh


You know what REALLLY would have been useful in that post???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with a post?

sigh
 
2011-03-23 06:02:42 PM  
was their logic circular?
 
2011-03-23 06:05:52 PM  
Needs jug handles.
 
2011-03-23 06:06:51 PM  

namatad: you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh


I'm with you; I lived near "the despised Cumberland Circle" and I can't picture what would make it better.

/I didn't despise it
//But it was a surprise the first time though
 
2011-03-23 06:08:38 PM  

R.A.Danny: My first experience with "real" roundabouts was in Ireland, so I had that whole driving on the wrong side of the road thing to deal with as well. They connect major roadways with roundabouts. The first try was a little intimidating, but they are completely idiot proof. No clue if they are American proof.


They generally are. MoDOT has been sticking them in any place they can instead of intersections with new projects. Much nicer. No wasted gas.
 
2011-03-23 06:10:39 PM  
I go home to Illinois to get away from Massachusetts' roundabouts and drivers, among other reasons. No thanks.
 
2011-03-23 06:16:10 PM  
Who cares about pedestrians?

I worry about the cyclists...

www.foliomag.com
 
2011-03-23 06:16:50 PM  
Roundabouts in Chicago? Where people will drive through 14 barriers in order to take a 'shortcut' through wet concrete?

Yeah...good luck with that.
 
2011-03-23 06:17:27 PM  
Until this article, I'd never seen or heard anyone call a rotary a roundabout except for the British chick on my GPS
 
2011-03-23 06:17:40 PM  
Plus no stop lights, which means no $40/hr electrician plus two sign holders and one supervisor to change a darn light bulb.
 
2011-03-23 06:18:35 PM  

studebaker hoch: Marlins come out of the sky and stand there.


Came for the Yes reference, leaving satisfied.
 
2011-03-23 06:25:20 PM  

Wrong_Intentions: Good. They really do need to improve driving there, especially through the sound and i and out the valley. Don't even get me started about in and around the lake!


One mile over we'll see what you did there and laughing too.
 
2011-03-23 06:26:35 PM  

Genju: Link (new window) We call it the roundabout of death. Especially for pedestrians.


Kinda cool you get a Subway and a GameStop in the roundabout.
 
2011-03-23 06:30:10 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Billy Preston
The Man

/all I could think of... I'm dizzy now


We've started to use these in New Jersey and they seem to work well. Also, while driving around France I noticed these everywhere and they worked like a charm.
/Jersey... home of the jug handle and Jersey barrier


You were lucky. A few of the French roundabouts still have 'priorité à droite' - i.e. give way to people joining the roundabout. If you want to see hilarity ensuing, they're a good place to see it.
 
2011-03-23 06:32:37 PM  

DVDave: Genju: Link (new window) We call it the roundabout of death. Especially for pedestrians.

Kinda cool you get a Subway and a GameStop in the roundabout.


Until you go to it and try to leave. I-95 is a stone's throw east of that intersection and people blaze through it at 40 mph. To the south of it is an elementary school, so kids have to cross it. Not so safe.

But yeah, kind of funny to listen to it while you eat. It's like a swarm of bees buzzing in your ear kind of sound.
 
2011-03-23 06:36:04 PM  
CitizenTed 2011-03-23 05:59:55 PM

We converted a bunch of the worst intersections in town to roundabouts and they work brilliantly. Of course, all the stupid old right-wing retards mail endless editorials deriding them as complicated, dangerous and Euro-socialist.

*sigh*

Republicans: why are they so stupid?


Everybody pales in the glare of your brilliance.
 
2011-03-23 06:36:21 PM  
...'Walk around in circles...walk around in circles....'
/Soul Coughing
/Apparently Boomerang still plays their compilations...
 
2011-03-23 06:53:52 PM  
Alice Zator, whose business sits at the planned roundabout site on Oak Park Avenue and 183rd Street. "My concern is, are there other options? Why would we do something that's not familiar to the Midwest?"

You've got to remember, that these are just simple farmers, these are people of the land, the common clay of the new west. You know . . . morons.
 
2011-03-23 07:04:24 PM  
round about good: a low tech, low cost way of controlling traffic

round about bad: they are space hogs. the land inside the circle is unusable and if you are trying to maximize lots/acre or commercial frontage, leaves great swaths of open land around it unusable as well. ... oh,yeah, and they are not pedestrian friendly, IMHO
 
2011-03-23 07:17:30 PM  
If anyone in Illinois wants to see mid-westerners and roundabouts in action, check out the clusterfark that is Golf and Wolf in (I think) Des Plaines. Holy shiat. No.
 
2011-03-23 07:28:03 PM  
Ah, I was about to make a "Suicide Circle" reference, but I see brookgo has beaten me to it.
 
2011-03-23 07:35:40 PM  
That's not a roundabout!

realdupont.com

THIS is a roundabout!
 
2011-03-23 08:06:26 PM  
About farking time. Ever since I encountered roundabouts in the UK, I've found four-way stops and stuck-on-stupid traffic signals to be nothing short of infuriating.

I've encountered a few in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Indiana, and people don't really have a problem with them that I could see.
 
2011-03-23 08:34:48 PM  
Shrivenham Road? I can feel my hams shrivening just looking at the diagram.
 
2011-03-23 08:59:58 PM  

SteakMan: namatad: you know what REALLLY would have been useful in that article???
something to show us the difference between asn outdated traffic circle and a modern round about.

gosh, a chance to educate along with the news?

sigh

I'm with you; I lived near "the despised Cumberland Circle" and I can't picture what would make it better.

/I didn't despise it
//But it was a surprise the first time though


The one traffic accident in my life was being sideswiped by someone in Cumberland Circle. Lord, how I loathe it.
 
2011-03-23 09:30:46 PM  

bingethinker: Shrivenham Road? I can feel my hams shrivening just looking at the diagram.


Just don't be Fleming all over.
 
2011-03-23 09:40:38 PM  

brookgo: If anyone in Illinois wants to see mid-westerners and roundabouts in action, check out the clusterfark that is Golf and Wolf in (I think) Des Plaines. Holy shiat. No.


As somebody who grew up in Mt. Prospect and is very familiar with "Suicide Circle" i'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2011-03-23 09:41:38 PM  
They should put them in and around the lake. Call it morning driving through the sound and even in the valley.
 
2011-03-23 09:43:09 PM  
safety experts?
we didn't conquer the moon listening to any dumb ol' safety experts!
 
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