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2011-03-22 02:38:07 AM  
Pretty cool.

Who goes after the duds?
 
VYV
2011-03-22 02:45:16 AM  
meh. that's no big deal...
/heh
 
2011-03-22 03:21:36 AM  
No comment.
 
2011-03-22 04:24:33 AM  
I love that moment when the one guy takes that hesitant back step...
 
2011-03-22 04:34:41 AM  
Oh man, they avalanched themselves in the process? FAIL.

I don't know about the US but I get the impression that a lot of the avalanche control in western Canada is done with bombs chucked from helicopters and remote-detonated explosions.
 
2011-03-22 05:31:45 AM  

bobbette: Oh man, they avalanched themselves in the process? FAIL.

I don't know about the US but I get the impression that a lot of the avalanche control in western Canada is done with bombs chucked from helicopters and remote-detonated explosions.


Yeah that's how it's normally done.. quite enjoyed the russian method though.
 
2011-03-22 05:49:56 AM  
Right around 1:16 there's a bright flash in the avalanche; what was that? Power lines snapping, or maybe one of the mortars being set off?
 
2011-03-22 05:59:06 AM  
I'll go with power lines snapping

I'll also say that I'm pretty sure the guys standing around were probably buried in snow.
 
2011-03-22 07:10:56 AM  

Smagma: bobbette: Oh man, they avalanched themselves in the process? FAIL.

I don't know about the US but I get the impression that a lot of the avalanche control in western Canada is done with bombs chucked from helicopters and remote-detonated explosions.

Yeah that's how it's normally done.. quite enjoyed the russian method though.


I think the recoil-less howitzer perched on the back of a pickup is a pretty common approach. Pretty cheap on surplus if you're an accredited government agency. Methinks the difference is that we have scientists doing it proactively to make sure large slips like that don't happen, while the Ruskies are afraid of anybody but the military having firepower.
 
2011-03-22 09:02:08 AM  
You arrogant ass... you've killed us!
 
2011-03-22 09:12:56 AM  

Lachwen: Right around 1:16 there's a bright flash in the avalanche; what was that? Power lines snapping, or maybe one of the mortars being set off?


Must be the power lines. You can see them very clearly just before that.
 
2011-03-22 09:27:10 AM  

cirby: I love that moment when the one guy takes that hesitant back step...


I lol'd at that too. It's like we just started a major avalanche, maybe I should take a couple steps back.
 
2011-03-22 09:35:51 AM  

Syphilis_Smile: Smagma: bobbette: Oh man, they avalanched themselves in the process? FAIL.

I don't know about the US but I get the impression that a lot of the avalanche control in western Canada is done with bombs chucked from helicopters and remote-detonated explosions.

Yeah that's how it's normally done.. quite enjoyed the russian method though.

I think the recoil-less howitzer perched on the back of a pickup is a pretty common approach. Pretty cheap on surplus if you're an accredited government agency. Methinks the difference is that we have scientists doing it proactively to make sure large slips like that don't happen, while the Ruskies are afraid of anybody but the military having firepower.


Also a lot of National Guard units will supply a howitzer or two. They'll haul it out and write it off as training or something. A little 75mm shell will normally do it so you don't even have to haul out a big 105mm or 155mm piece.
 
2011-03-22 09:58:13 AM  
JESUS CHRIST, IT'S AN AVALANCHE, GET IN THE CAR!!!
 
2011-03-22 10:25:18 AM  
Yeah, putting up your hood is going to help against an avalanche. Good thinking, buddy. Shouldn't you be running away from the falling power lines?
 
2011-03-22 11:24:10 AM  

shopball: You arrogant ass... you've killed us!


I lol'd. Nice.
 
2011-03-22 11:47:57 AM  
Damn, I forgot to make this Fark video tab headline sound like every other Fark video Tab headline. I know what I'll do. I'll add "the best you will see today" at the end. All fixed.
 
2011-03-22 12:39:25 PM  
In Tahoe, they use compressed air cannons.
 
2011-03-22 01:40:01 PM  

FREDIOHEAD: Damn, I forgot to make this Fark video tab headline sound like every other Fark video Tab headline. I know what I'll do. I'll add "the best you will see today" at the end. All fixed.


An odd approach, as I did not see this headline on Reddit. Something is amiss.
 
2011-03-22 01:43:54 PM  
ha-ha-guy

Also a lot of National Guard units will supply a howitzer or two. They'll haul it out and write it off as training or something. A little 75mm shell will normally do it so you don't even have to haul out a big 105mm or 155mm piece.


Artillery is pretty old school avalanche control, on one of our local highway passes they retired all the 105's because of the rock slides caused by pounding the start zone with explosives. The shells pass right through the snowpack which muffles the concussion and is less effective at propagating
slides. They replaced them with a Gazex system which is a large tube located above the start zone that a mix of propane/oxygen is remotely detonated producing an air blast concussion above the snow triggering the slide.

pudding7

In Tahoe, they use compressed air cannons.

Yep, see above.

I ski patrolled for several years and we went from tossing bombs in the snow to tethering them to a bamboo pole above the snow. The air blasts were far more effective at starting a slide and required less explosives ie. a single charge starting a slide that would have required a triple. Explosives are expensive.
 
2011-03-22 02:29:51 PM  
Does anybody else think that ads are turning the Internet into TV?
 
2011-03-22 03:57:23 PM  
In Russia Artillery avalanches you
 
2011-03-22 04:01:50 PM  

Lachwen: Right around 1:16 there's a bright flash in the avalanche; what was that? Power lines snapping, or maybe one of the mortars being set off?


That was a transformer shorting out.
 
2011-03-22 04:11:44 PM  

Trawg: Lachwen: Right around 1:16 there's a bright flash in the avalanche; what was that? Power lines snapping, or maybe one of the mortars being set off?

That was a transformer shorting out.


Fark that! It's the rarely witnessed snow ball lightning!
Teach the conspiracy.
 
2011-03-22 04:36:46 PM  

Trawg: Lachwen: Right around 1:16 there's a bright flash in the avalanche; what was that? Power lines snapping, or maybe one of the mortars being set off?

That was a transformer shorting out.


tfwiki.net
 
2011-03-22 06:38:20 PM  
If you take a drive through the mountains in British Columbia, you'll frequently see what looks like concrete pillboxes - these are actually cannon platforms that the local authorities use, well, howitzers, to launch charges to set off avalanches similar to this one. Often they'll get reserve CF units to come in and do the blasting.

No helicopters are used, it's cost prohibitive. Much simpler to pull up with a mortar, and lob some dumb rounds into the icepack. And if you miss a few, well, the deer and the crows aren't going to file a public complaint, that's for sure.
 
2011-03-22 08:10:15 PM  
I hope someone wrote that spot down!


Gravel Road: It is actually much cheaper to request a 7800' fly-over by an F15 pushing 101 military.
 
2011-03-22 08:28:56 PM  
Gravel Road Cop

I live 45 min away from Kootenay Pass which at 1775m, is one of the highest in BC. It contains some very large avalanche paths that intersect the road. The avalanche control is done with the GAZEX system and the 105's are long retired as the summer rockslide issue far outweighed their effectiveness. The 105's are still used in a few places but are being phased out. They in fact do use helicopters for controlling start zones not within the Gazex and to clean up "hangfire" slabs of snow not released by the air blast. In the Rockies heli use is even greater as access to the start zones is often problematic there due to severe terrain. The issue with the 105 was dud rounds as well which don't so much bother the wildlife but not so for the hikers. As well avalanche control has changed a hell of a lot since I was chucking bombs at my local ski hill in the 90's. It's all about air blasts now and not wasting explosives muffling their effectiveness.
 
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