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2011-03-21 04:45:24 PM

Wellon Dowd: who is third in line to the presidency


This post is making me weep openly
 
2011-03-21 04:45:40 PM
third in line to the president is the President Pro tempore of the Senate, the POTUS is not in line to the presidency.

Link (new window)
 
2011-03-21 04:46:18 PM
Nice piece of derp. When you attack intellectualism and think the answer is to further cut pay, benefits, and rights for teachers while further defunding schools this is what happens. Instead of addressing the problem they want to cut what funds are left and then blame the public school system.

Read the comments of the article, talk about "projection".
 
2011-03-21 04:46:33 PM
Glenn Beck's blog sucks.
 
2011-03-21 04:46:54 PM
when did it become popular and acceptable for people to be so disrespectful and negative about our president?

I remember during bush 2.0, that supporters said that you should respect the president during time of war. so that same respect should hold for obama, right?

I remember during reagan/bush 1.0 that supporters argued that even if you disagree, you should show respect for the man and the office.
those same supporters of reagan/bush forgot this once clinton was president.

so now neither side has any respect for the president nor the office. was that the intended outcome? nice job.
 
2011-03-21 04:47:03 PM
Will all the liberals please move to Europe?
 
2011-03-21 04:47:06 PM

dgc360: Weaver95: But then it starts naming off the possible reasons, and quoting experts about why we've become "incurious know-nothings." There's our complicated political system (which, of course, Newsweek says is complicated in relation to Europe) for one. "Most experts agree that the relative complexity of the U.S. political system makes it hard for Americans to keep up," the article says.

we don't exactly have a culture that respects learning and intelligence. we respect strength and very little else.


The GOP's ideal President (cross necklace not shown in picture)


Don't be silly. He's not white.
 
2011-03-21 04:47:13 PM

jake_lex: Warning: this link is from Glenn Beck's personal derp depository. Beware.


Which is why I didn't click the link. Let Beck try get some web traffic from the girl that he allegedly killed and raped back in 1990.
 
2011-03-21 04:47:42 PM

bravian: namatad: if palin runs in 2012, she will need to answer the following question:
if elected, will you resign early or complete the full term?
and a follow up question:
do you know how long the presidential term is?

Or where is your birth certificate?

/there is ample evidence she was born in Canada.


HEH
I want to see trig's birth certificate and blood tests first!!!
 
2011-03-21 04:48:56 PM

Wellon Dowd: I notice nobody in this thread has said who is third in line to the presidency. I wonder how many can without looking.


1: Most recent half-term governor of the nation's largest state by area
2: AM Radio Talk Show host married the most times
3: Person who owns the most pairs of Zubaz "American Flag" pants
 
2011-03-21 04:48:58 PM
The citizenship test says that the declaration of independence was adopted on July 4? That's embarrassing, but not because people got the question counted wrong.

More generally, the citizenship test is supposed to be studied for, I'm not incredibly worried that random people on the internet can't remember off the top of their head who was president through most of WW1 (in which we weren't that involved) or all the names of the writers of the federalist papers (which were intentionally often published under pseudonyms, the whole point being to influence based on the strength of the ideas and not polarize using well-known names). Those don't cross my "filling out shiat on the internet" threshold of importance either, I only know them because I'm a nerd.
 
2011-03-21 04:49:33 PM
Unions.
Thank you for how you have cratered the education system.
 
2011-03-21 04:53:01 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Unions.
Thank you for how you have cratered the education system.


Here's how you can tell you're completely retarded: You think there's one, single cause for the terrible state of Americans.
 
2011-03-21 04:53:05 PM
I'm not entirely sure that those are things that matter. When was the last time the speaker of the House took over the role of President? Never. The name "Constitutional Convention" seems sort of self-explanatory, but, again, even if someone wasn't sure what had happened then, so what? Names and dates from the distant past aren't really relevant to anything. Being able to recite an entire history book on what happened there wouldn't make one any more qualified to speak on any contemporary issue. Only knowing who the vice president is seems like it would be at all important, and even then I'm not sure that knowing his name, personality, political views, etc. has much value, unless there's an election campaign going on.

Trivia questions like these, even ones that will obviously seem easy to the sort of people who spend a lot of time on Fark politic threads, are still just that -- trivia questions. They're importance was never very high, and has diminished to zero with the advent of the Internet. After all, why bother memorizing those sorts of things when you can look them up whenever you need to know them?

A much better test would be one that tested people's ability to actually think critically and rationally. It might ask people to name and explain three logical fallacies, for instance. It might also ask them to write two essays on any current controversial issue, one for each side of the debate.
 
2011-03-21 04:54:54 PM

CitizenTed: Third in line to the presidency is John Goodman pretending to be a southern Republican.

/it's real to me, dammit!


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-03-21 04:55:06 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Unions.
Thank you for how you have cratered the education system.


Lazy bums like you always blame teachers for their failure to be an achiever in life. Maybe if you worked harder in school you could be a success. I didn't blame anyone for the loss of my legs. Some Chinaman took them from me in Korea, but I went out and achieved anyway. No, one can solve your problems for you. Only you can.
 
2011-03-21 04:55:07 PM

tenpoundsofcheesestupi: Unions. Idiot voters and criminally incompetent elected officials, Thank you for how you have cratered the education system.


FTFY, trollboy.
 
2011-03-21 04:56:05 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Unions.
Thank you for how you have cratered the education system.


Finland has one of the best education systems in the world, and their teachers are all very strongly unionized.
 
2011-03-21 04:58:28 PM
The question as asked was...."If both the president and the vice president can no longer serve, who becomes president?"

A: An engorged orange penis.
 
2011-03-21 04:58:51 PM
From the comments: "And yet the Democrats created the Department of Education in the 1970′s. They also see to the funding the Department Of Education. Our national test scores have constantly fallen from that point on. It's time to de-fund and dissolve the DEA !"

but then again the SN was gaydem4beck.

Remind me to never again venture into the fresh hell that is "The Blaze"
 
2011-03-21 04:59:39 PM

UberDave: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I blame cable television.

Cable TV killed Saturday morning cartoons -- a shared experience for almost all kids.

Part of the shared experience of Saturday morning cartoons? Schoolhouse Rock.

No Schoolhouse Rock equals grown-ups who think we won our independence from Germany at the Battle of Pearl Harbor on July 4th, 1776 when Abe Lincoln pinned King Arthur.

Pffft! Schoolhouse Rock was what you painfully sat through while waiting on Superfriends. And I didn't need it to know that John Brainiac will be third in line for the Presidency.


Brainiac? He'll never make it out of the primaries because the values voters will never vote for somebody so obviously GAY.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2011-03-21 04:59:57 PM
A much better test would be one that tested people's ability to actually think critically and rationally. It might ask people to name and explain three logical fallacies, for instance. It might also ask them to write two essays on any current controversial issue, one for each side of the debate.

but this kind of test would probably hurt the GOP worse than the DEMS.

a better way to deal with voting, is to weight your vote by taxes paid. say log10(total taxes paid for the last 4 years)
tax cheats would get less "votes"
dumb poor people would get 1 base vote
rich people would get more votes (and more say in how their tax dollars got spent)

"smart but picked a low paying degree" people would get screwed.
 
2011-03-21 05:00:47 PM

gameshowhost: capitalism functions efficiently only when it *excludes* people from markets...


What utter crap.
 
2011-03-21 05:01:06 PM

robotpirateninja: The question as asked was...."If both the president and the vice president can no longer serve, who becomes president?"

A: An engorged orange penis.


I have it on good authority Inouye is supposed to whack it with one hand if it ever came to that.
 
2011-03-21 05:01:15 PM
Not news: Nearly four out of 10 Americans can't name the vice president, don't know what happened at the Constitutional Convention, or who's third in line to the presidency. Fark: And Newsweek blames capitalism and states' rights

Well that sounds stupid, I agree subby! What is their reasoning for that idiocy?!

"Unlike Denmark, we have a lot of very poor people without access to good education"


Oh, lack of education and things like literacy. Hmm, that's actually a good point. And it's not attacking capitalism, it's attacking income inequality. Well, states rights is clearly still an idiotic thing to attack, I'm still with you there subby!

"the decentralized U.S. education system, which is run mostly by individual states"

Hmm, a lack of uniform standards across the states leads to varying curricula which leads to educational disparity between states. That also seems a reasonable point. Funny, subby. When I read your headline, I completely agreed with you, it did sound idiotic. But when I looked into the reasoning, it actually made good sense. How does that work?
 
2011-03-21 05:01:16 PM

raozmc: From the comments: "And yet the Democrats created the Department of Education in the 1970′s. They also see to the funding the Department Of Education. Our national test scores have constantly fallen from that point on. It's time to de-fund and dissolve the DEA !"

but then again the SN was gaydem4beck.

Remind me to never again venture into the fresh hell that is "The Blaze"


gaydem?
sounds like an irish name
 
2011-03-21 05:03:17 PM

robotpirateninja: The question as asked was...."If both the president and the vice president can no longer serve, who becomes president?"

A: An engorged orange penis.


Good job, dick, now he's crying again.
 
2011-03-21 05:03:23 PM

namatad: A much better test would be one that tested people's ability to actually think critically and rationally. It might ask people to name and explain three logical fallacies, for instance. It might also ask them to write two essays on any current controversial issue, one for each side of the debate.

but this kind of test would probably hurt the GOP worse than the DEMS.

a better way to deal with voting, is to weight your vote by taxes paid. say log10(total taxes paid for the last 4 years)
tax cheats would get less "votes"
dumb poor people would get 1 base vote
rich people would get more votes (and more say in how their tax dollars got spent)

"smart but picked a low paying degree" people would get screwed.


What about the absurdly rich people who use loopholes to get millions of dollars back from the government in taxes and various subsidies?
 
2011-03-21 05:03:33 PM

namatad: A much better test would be one that tested people's ability to actually think critically and rationally. It might ask people to name and explain three logical fallacies, for instance. It might also ask them to write two essays on any current controversial issue, one for each side of the debate.

but this kind of test would probably hurt the GOP worse than the DEMS.

a better way to deal with voting, is to weight your vote by taxes paid. say log10(total taxes paid for the last 4 years)
tax cheats would get less "votes"
dumb poor people would get 1 base vote
rich people would get more votes (and more say in how their tax dollars got spent)

"smart but picked a low paying degree" people would get screwed.


And that's different from what's going on now because . . .

/Literature degree
//Certificate and few grad school credits in theology
///Would you like fries with that?
 
2011-03-21 05:11:13 PM

HighOnCraic: namatad: A much better test would be one that tested people's ability to actually think critically and rationally. It might ask people to name and explain three logical fallacies, for instance. It might also ask them to write two essays on any current controversial issue, one for each side of the debate.

but this kind of test would probably hurt the GOP worse than the DEMS.

a better way to deal with voting, is to weight your vote by taxes paid. say log10(total taxes paid for the last 4 years)
tax cheats would get less "votes"
dumb poor people would get 1 base vote
rich people would get more votes (and more say in how their tax dollars got spent)

"smart but picked a low paying degree" people would get screwed.

And that's different from what's going on now because . . .


Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
 
2011-03-21 05:11:19 PM

bravian: Wellon Dowd: I notice nobody in this thread has said who is third in line to the presidency. I wonder how many can without looking.

A Southern Republican.

/hopefully Biden doesn't get caught sleeping around with a columnist and starts leaking stories about life on Mars


Oh man! wonder if he'll ever know?
 
2011-03-21 05:16:02 PM

PanicMan: /hopefully Biden doesn't get caught sleeping around with a columnist and starts leaking stories about life on Mars

Oh man! wonder if he'll ever know?


OHNOZ! SEEKRIT SERVIS PROTEK TEH TRANS-AM!! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!

// pretty blitzed
 
2011-03-21 05:16:41 PM
Oh, this Lybrul Meedya shiat again.
 
2011-03-21 05:21:24 PM
People are too busy living in fear.

No savings, large debt, two missed paychecks away from the street. This describes about half of the United States.
 
2011-03-21 05:21:44 PM

Rent is too damn high: third in line to the president is the President Pro tempore of the Senate, the POTUS is not in line to the presidency.

Link (new window)


Welp chalk me up as a 60%er.
 
2011-03-21 05:22:15 PM

Rent is too damn high: third in line to the president is the President Pro tempore of the Senate, the POTUS is not in line to the presidency.

Link (new window)


That's a mistake on Subby's part. The actual article poses the question as "If both the president and vice president are unable to perform their duties, who becomes president?".
 
2011-03-21 05:22:54 PM
I can't find where it says these tests were given. I'm trying to measure the context of the results. I'm guessing they had to be done in person, as doing one over the phone might be too long and tedious for most people.

Were these tests given in the hotel lobby during an American Library Association convention? Or were they given at a mall kiosk somewhere between the Sbarro and Rue 21? This is important.
 
2011-03-21 05:26:56 PM
Got them all right! Suck it Newsweek!

As long as "Levying taxes" is a power of the federal government. It wasn't mentioned, and I'm pretty damned sure the government can do so.
 
2011-03-21 05:27:43 PM
And 100% of the people that wrote this article for The Blaze fail at reading comprehension.

FTFA: Newsweek just happens to blame states' sovereignty and capitalism.....the other reasons: Income inequality, a "decentralized education system" that relies on the states, and "market-driven programming."

then they quote the source for this "market driven programming":

Another hitch is our reliance on market-driven programming rather than public broadcasting, which, according to the EJC study, "devotes more attention to public affairs and international news, and fosters greater knowledge in these areas."

Seriously how is this an attack on capitalism? Have you watched PBS or BBC and compared it to any American media outlet? Seriously when did pointing out that Two and a Half Men and Glee are not exactly educational become an attack on capitalism. For chrissake I hate Glenn Beck.
 
2011-03-21 05:28:24 PM

raozmc: From the comments: "And yet the Democrats created the Department of Education in the 1970′s. They also see to the funding the Department Of Education. Our national test scores have constantly fallen from that point on. It's time to de-fund and dissolve the DEA !"

but then again the SN was gaydem4beck.

Remind me to never again venture into the fresh hell that is "The Blaze"


I'm going to choose to believe he purposely threw DEA in there. Much like the Dihydrogen Monoxide folks, or the polls on women's suffrage.
 
2011-03-21 05:28:48 PM
Could it just be that the median IQ is 100 and that most people are pretty farking stupid to start?
 
2011-03-21 05:29:01 PM
Which is why I support literacy tests. Seriously. These days I think they'd pwn far more dumb white people than anyone else. And regardless of skin color, if you can't explain WHY you're voting for someone beyond D or R, you shouldn't get to vote anyway.
 
2011-03-21 05:29:53 PM
No shiat? Keep voting for Republicans, assholes, and let's burn this farking country to the ground. I've been saying it for years: my ignorant fellow citizens deserve to be nothing less than serfs.
 
2011-03-21 05:31:15 PM
100% correct here.

The best question was, who is the current Speaker of teh House?

forums.corvetteforum.com
 
2011-03-21 05:31:24 PM
America Proud to be stupid.
 
2011-03-21 05:31:39 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: when Abe Lincoln pinned King Arthur


the moment our country was born

will always be real to me
 
2011-03-21 05:31:48 PM

DaSwankOne: Seriously how is this an attack on capitalism? Have you watched PBS or BBC and compared it to any American media outlet? Seriously when did pointing out that Two and a Half Men and Glee are not exactly educational become an attack on capitalism. For chrissake I hate Glenn Beck.


I never get around to watching PBS but BBC, hells ya. Where else am I going to watch reruns of ST-TNG and the original Hells Kitchen.
 
2011-03-21 05:32:41 PM

Weaver95: But then it starts naming off the possible reasons, and quoting experts about why we've become "incurious know-nothings." There's our complicated political system (which, of course, Newsweek says is complicated in relation to Europe) for one. "Most experts agree that the relative complexity of the U.S. political system makes it hard for Americans to keep up," the article says.

we don't exactly have a culture that respects learning and intelligence. we respect strength and very little else.


this, bigtime. money, power, good looks, NOT learning or depth of thought.
 
2011-03-21 05:34:19 PM

raozmc: From the comments: "And yet the Democrats created the Department of Education in the 1970′s. They also see to the funding the Department Of Education. Our national test scores have constantly fallen from that point on. It's time to de-fund and dissolve the DEA !"

but then again the SN was gaydem4beck.

Remind me to never again venture into the fresh hell that is "The Blaze"


It's always amazed me that the people most against governmental waste would bust a nut if you suggested getting rid of 50 different state departments of educations and letting 1 federal department decide what goes on high school exams and into history textbooks.
 
2011-03-21 05:35:50 PM

HeartBurnKid: Much like the Dihydrogen Monoxide folks, or the polls on women's suffrage.


Love those.


We need to ban hydroxylic acid too. But until then I will pour it down my drain by the gallon.

FU Enviro-Nazis!
 
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