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(The Sun)   Cleaner in modern art gallery mistakes exhibit for garbage, throws it away   (thesun.co.uk ) divider line
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2001-10-19 09:17:40 AM  
HAW HAW HAW!!
 
2001-10-19 09:22:57 AM  
At least Hirst has a sense of humour about it.
 
2001-10-19 09:34:56 AM  
If it's in the Sun then it HAS to be true!

Still, a funny story, if light on the details and words understandlbe only by people with a fourth grade education or higher.
 
2001-10-19 09:37:36 AM  
was that Manute Bol?
 
K
2001-10-19 09:43:10 AM  
a party? and he didn't invite me?
 
2001-10-19 09:45:06 AM  
"Mistakes"? Looks to me like he was right; it was garbage.
Modern art sucks.
 
2001-10-19 09:49:58 AM  
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"I sort glass. That's my job."
 
2001-10-19 09:56:35 AM  
"Your so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece." that mean ace sergeant from Full Metal Jacket.
 
2001-10-19 10:00:08 AM  
I can't paint...I can't sculpt...I can't draw.

*think*

I've got it, I'll put a sheep in formaldehyde. God...I'm fantastic!
 
2001-10-19 10:10:53 AM  
Maybe it's not art if someone thinks that it actually might be trash. I'm with you, Pretnar. Modern "art" does suck and this "artist" sounds like a hack to me.
 
2001-10-19 10:12:56 AM  
No Ouroborus, we're just not intelligent enough to appreciate it. What a couple of clods we are.
 
2001-10-19 12:27:17 PM  
Holy shiat, I had no idea how much the contents of my living room were really worth!

Now if I could just find my digital camera in this mess, I'll get some quick pics and I'm off to e-bay.
 
2001-10-19 12:30:22 PM  
If thats art i got a whole dumpster of the shiat out back.
 
2001-10-19 12:36:32 PM  
"Its' worth 5,000 pounds? Oh my God."

My thoughts exactly. I'm taking bids on my current masterpiece entitled "Coffee Grounds, Beer Bottles, and Paper in Rubbermaid."
 
2001-10-19 12:40:48 PM  
OBVIOUS
OBVIOUS
OBVIOUS
 
2001-10-19 12:40:58 PM  
I can't recall who said "I may not know art but I know what I like".

To paraphrase: A dead skunk by any other name still stinks.
 
2001-10-19 12:41:31 PM  
what i want to really really know is where can i find the uncensored version of this link

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,5-2001361310,00.html

find it and I will worship you!
 
2001-10-19 12:57:56 PM  
amazing how people can trash something never having seen it in person, nor even making the slightest attempt to understand the work. it's not a question of intelligence, it's a question of ignorance. get a little art history under your belt, go see the work IN PERSON, and then you can call it a piece of shiat (or you may actually like it, who knows?). art can be beautiful, pretentious, ugly, stupid, smart, shocking, boring, etc., but it's not automatically stupid just because you're too lazy to even try to understand it.
 
2001-10-19 01:00:02 PM  
Modern art sucks. Maybe not every last bit, but the majority of it.

Mental retardation or pure genius? Well, lets see... is the guy still alive? He is... hmmm. Not looking good. Ok, well, does he live in a warehouse and talk to invisible musicians outloud? He does? Ok. Pure genius.

"I really like how he put the red X just off center on the canvas. Really brilliant. Pass the wine and cheese please."
 
2001-10-19 01:11:19 PM  
I love art... but even I'll tell ya that I think "modern art" is pretty much the same as "the emporer's new clothes". The whole idea of it is that if you can "see" the art, you're in. If you can't, you're just an ignorant clod who can't appreciate "true art".

What a load of shiat. The purpose of art is to relate to the viewer... to evoke a response. If "art" is incapable of doing that, it's not art. That simple.
 
2001-10-19 01:18:09 PM  
I repeat, I may not know art but I know what I like.

Stan, under the same rules you're talking about, Jimmy Joe Bob Leroy hillbilly dumping a pickup load of trash on the shoulder of the highway is creating "art". Oops, sorry, I forgot. HE doesn't call it art and get paid $$$ for doing it. He just gets a ticket for littering.

I don't have to understand the so-called "artist's" motivation when he did it, it's still garbage. I also don't understand the Sistine Chapel or the Mona Lisa because I'm not an art person but I do understand what went into creating those.

This guy took his living room trash and dumped it on the floor in a museum. If the custodial lady couldn't tell the difference between his exhibit and a trashcan some kids knocked over, then it's not art.
 
2001-10-19 01:22:17 PM  
if I take a dump in a museum, I get arrested.

if an "artist" takes a dump in a museum, he gets a pile of money.

bah. I just finished art school. I think modern art is more about art theory than art itself. kind of a contest to see who can keep a straight face when they're at the galleries and it's announced how much the crap is selling for. it's not about making things that look good, it's about making things that make no sense so that you can look down on people who don't understand them.

not all modern art is crap (andy goldsworthy is genius), but a lot of it serves no purpose but to reassure the snooty art critics that they are the only ones who can appreciate the profound signifigance of a steaming pile of poop.

I'm going to mcdonald's and then I'm going to do a little "installation" at the SFMOMA.
 
2001-10-19 01:23:11 PM  
That's rich ... Hirst's exhibit is worth £5,000
Is this a new money scheme I'm missing out on?
 
2001-10-19 01:32:07 PM  
My room is a work of art, I will sell it for $500,000.
 
2001-10-19 01:37:05 PM  
the self-intelligent, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual stance of everyone who defends an obvious pieces of shiat makes me nauseous. Why the hell do these people think that if they pretend to be smart, they will be smart?

Oh wait, I guess the reason I don't "get" the artistic merits of dirty room is because I'm too lazy to try and understand it. It has nothing to do with the fact that there are none.

To the "enlightened": You are the type of people who are easily confused. You are confused about the workings of the stars, television, and nature; yet you know these things are good. When modern art appears you are confused yet again, and mistakenly confuse your confusion for the confusion of something good. Your erroneous insight into the beauty of the object isn't the result of your intelligence, but rather the lack there of. You are dumb, get over it. I have NEVER, not once, found an intelligent person ever think that this shiat was anything more than the creation of a self-important artist, or was it con artist?

ps: I know that I am an arrogant asshole.
 
2001-10-19 01:39:53 PM  
actually Dude said what I was trying to say.
 
2001-10-19 01:58:24 PM  
everyone: modern art is considered most art since 1900 - when you say modern art sucks do you mean all art from the past hundred years sucks, or just people like hirst trying to push concepts as art?

im actually interested in Hirst's art; not because i think it's fantastic but because i'm more curious about why he does this. not many people realize it, but this type of art a big experiment and a big joke on the art world. art collectors will buy paintings, yes. they will buy strange sculptures if they think it's art. Hirst here has shown us how far it goes: art collectors are buying his animals in tanks, huge things that have to be shipped specially and aren't exactly the kind of art you can hang over your couch...

consider it a joke on art collectors and it's a little funnier... but it is hard to classify. Hirst doesn't even do these - he pays other people to do it. what makes it his? just that he came up with the idea? well what if someone has an idea and pays someone else to paint it? is it still theirs? interesting stuff, and it's definitely on Hirst's mind.

by the way, a hack is a person who writes for hire, someone who does someone else's work for money. it's the wrong word for someone who creates something for their own satisfaction or amusement.
 
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2001-10-19 02:05:12 PM  
Modern art in the trash. I fail to see where the mistake was made.
 
2001-10-19 02:05:34 PM  
Hmmm... I'm going to get my bass out, turn my amp way way up and then throw peanuts at the strings while I record the sound... then I'll see who I can get to buy my new "experimental cutting edge music".

hahaha. Jokes on you, music critic, music collector, music listener.

^^^???
....I don't get it.
 
2001-10-19 02:08:57 PM  
Some modern art is brilliant and amazing. The whole point of art is to make you think of something that never occured to you or something you don't see everyday. Some of Andy Warhol's stuff was brilliant and great and some of it was total stupidity, and even he admitted it himself.

This however (a can full of garbage is neithe thought provoking or even original) He must have an extensive degree in BS. Although I greatly commend him for his sense of humor and the fact that he was able to pull this off as art. I'll bet that janitor himself has created some real masterpieces as well.
 
2001-10-19 02:11:01 PM  
sounds like there are a lot of people here who are scared and alienated by modern art-- so much so that they are getting belligerent, hostile, and just stupid. how the fark can you judge all modern art before you've seen it?

This is what I'm hearing: "I don't like the modern art I've seen. I also don't understand it. Therefore all modern art sucks. And so does everything else I don't understand."
 
2001-10-19 02:13:28 PM  
"Patrons in modern art gallery mistake garbage for art."
 
2001-10-19 02:21:16 PM  
A literary hack is "a mediocre and disdained writer". I merely applied that same label to Hirst. Call it poetic licence.

Stackin' trash does not consititue art. Nor does piss in a jar or poop on a table. There needs to be some creative energy put into it. Something more than a blank canvas, or one with a small red X, or the word "yes" writ small. A dog can take a dump on the floor but it's not an artist.
 
2001-10-19 02:22:26 PM  
Why are you guys getting so upset? You sound like a bunch of whining losers who feel left out. If you don't like modern art, you don't have to look at it. Why does it bother you if others like, enjoy, or appreciate something that you don't?
 
2001-10-19 02:22:50 PM  
if hirst was any bit as pretentious as a lot of people here make him out to be, he would be pissed that it got thrown away.

He said of the mistake: "It's fantastic. Very funny."

hirst laughed his ass of when it got into the gallery and was worth £5,000 and again when he found out it was mistaken for garbage. he knows it was garbage! its a big joke and nobody gets it, not the people who love it and buy it or the people who hate it and bash modern art because of it.
 
2001-10-19 02:24:45 PM  
ouroborus: cite the source of that definition, i'd like to see it. my understanding of the word is very different, and every dictionary i've checked so far confirms it, but if you found it somewhere than i stand corrected.
 
2001-10-19 02:28:42 PM  
What is art?

1. You gotta do it on purpose.
2. Somebody has to like it.

His art's worth £5,000 probably because he took out that much insurance for it. And though nobody bought it, he got that much because somebody threw it out.

Viola. Art scam.
 
2001-10-19 02:29:38 PM  
If I bought that exibit and set it up in say....my living room, my peers would think I was a slob instead of "cultured" for having such a fine piece of "art" in my house.
 
2001-10-19 02:37:44 PM  
When I was in school I was haulin' around a styrophome (SP?) cup that I had torn into spiral during class. As I walked by the student exhibit I noticed a great place for my little "piece of art". It stayed up for two weeks in the exhibit before anyone figured it out. Hee hee hee... I kill me.
 
2001-10-19 02:49:01 PM  
This would be a good homework assignment for all you farkers. Try the above at your local museum or art dealer.
"The things you own end up owning you" -Tyler Durden:
 
2001-10-19 02:52:33 PM  
I like art.

It tastes good with relish and onions.
 
2001-10-19 02:55:21 PM  
In a related story, "The NEA had a hissy fit today and demanded nore funding from Congress to educate unenlightened plebians."
 
2001-10-19 03:04:56 PM  
well, if you are going to define art as something that gets an emotional response and helps the artist get a name for himself, then i would say hirsch succeeded very well. for all you know hirsch himself was making a statement about modern art: you can throw trash on the floor and people will call it art! good for him! duchamp did it better in the early 20th centurey by installing a urinal in a gallery and titling it "god". get some perspective on art before you slam it. i get the feeling most people get their impressions of art from watching sit coms (where modern art is routinely the butt of jokes) or bob ross. all i ask is get some REAL perspective on the subject first before you trashiat.
 
2001-10-19 03:05:38 PM  
Of course not all modern art is crap, but a dirt room being passed off as art is.

"This piece of art is making a political statement against the corporate tyranny of neo-capitalism... No wait, it says 'the guy that created me thinks he's a creative genius, the likes of Warhol or Dali. Your attempts to decipher me are futile mortal!!!'"

ps: can anyone find the word I made up?
 
2001-10-19 03:09:18 PM  
No
 
2001-10-19 03:11:50 PM  
making statements is good. putting dollar amounts on them is stupid.
 
2001-10-19 03:12:37 PM  
Stanfan-

"amazing how people can trash something never having seen it in person, nor even making the slightest attempt to understand the work. it's not a question of intelligence, it's a question of ignorance. get a little art history under your belt"

I was a commercial art major, so I studied art history. I now make my living as a graphic designer. So am I qualified to call that crap? Because it is, whether I say it, you say it, or even if you don't say it.

It is an embarrassment to true art that someone like that will pass something like that off as art. And some of you will think, "Gosh, I really don't understand it, but I mustn't attack it, because maybe I can't understand his genius"!

Did anyone else read "The Emperor's New Clothes" as a kid?
 
2001-10-19 03:31:26 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for FLIP WILSON!!!
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2001-10-19 03:32:03 PM  
I hope he does "Geraldine."
 
2001-10-19 03:49:36 PM  
Do you understand everything you like?
 
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