phoxxy: They increased the the 3 mile evacuation to a 6 mile radius.

They just increased it again...

It seems there news conference was a bunch of fluff

The BBC has a quote from Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano: "As reported, we have been informed that there was some kind of an explosive phenomenon at Fukushima No 1 nuclear power plant, although it has yet to be confirmed whether [the explosion] was that of a nuclear reactor itself. At present, after the talks among political party heads held a while ago, government officials including the prime minister and the minister of economy, trade, and industry, along with experts, are making all-out efforts to get hold of and analyse the situation, and to take measures."

"...only the shell of the building remains, 4 workers were injured..."

not good

Uchiha_Cycliste: phoxxy: They increased the the 3 mile evacuation to a 6 mile radius. If there is any type of "doomsday" scenario of this going bad, it would only immediately effect a 6 mile radius.

Haven't they been at 10k for many hours? I don't think I even remember a 5k evacuation.

20 now, isn't it?

/their

Uchiha_Cycliste: Rock on!
Aren't long hours great =/ (I know you're pain)

Hey, six twelves makes me some good money. The +cash is equaled by -sanity, but hey.


Honestly? I'm stunned at how level this thread is. I didn't read all of it but mostly I'm seeing really thoughtful replies and.. some hate about Red Cross (wtf).

iq_in_binary [TotalFark] 2011-03-12 06:18:16 AM

these ideas will grow and spread, much like radiation, warez, or the flu.

3 $5 words out of the first 13?

Dude are you going to remember this in the morning?"

// Yes, because i write and speak similar to that style for a living.
No one ever likes reading or hearing it, which thrills me;
but then,
they don't really have a choice either, which also thrills me.

Imperative Writing and Speaking is Domination at its finest.
I figured y'all would know what i am about..
just by look'n


I have, for a long time, hated several activities of mankind; Fast cars, fishing, hunting, whaling, Atomic Piles.
These last few days is quite a Coup d' Gras for my ambitions.
Ya feel me now?

cirby: What_Would_Jimi_Do:
to best help those impacted by this disaster i don't know, but the american red cross will not directly help the japanese immediately.

What makes you say that?

In pretty much every huge disaster, the American Red Cross is one of the faster and more useful groups to show up, after the US military. Blood donations alone will make a huge difference.

seeing the ceo's are taking in 500k a year, the american red cross isn't the number one charity to get direct help to the japanese. i don't know which ones are, but for direct help choose wisely. is all i am saying.

Uchiha_Cycliste: phoxxy: They increased the the 3 mile evacuation to a 6 mile radius. If there is any type of "doomsday" scenario of this going bad, it would only immediately effect a 6 mile radius.

Haven't they been at 10k for many hours? I don't think I even remember a 5k evacuation.

10 kilometers is roughly just over 6 miles.

/This just in... unit conversions are hard!

/Couldn't they just put toilet water on it?

Shyla: ...although it has yet to be confirmed whether [the explosion] was that of a nuclear reactor itself.

Important bit, right there.

MadameX: "...only the shell of the building remains, 4 workers were injured..."

not good

What building though?! Turbine, reactor, or containment?! Because what one it is SERIOUSLY changes matters..

/auaughghghghg

The PM is doing a live press conference but isn't saying all that much.

We should send Japan all our Arabian Horse experts, Formaldahide trailers and the cast of the Jersey Shore.

phoxxy: 10 kilometers is roughly just over 6 miles.
This just in... unit conversions are hard!

That's what he meant. You said they increased it from 5km (3 miles) to 10km (6 miles) and he said he didn't remember it being 5km.

Chernobyl Two: Electric Boogaloo?

/got nothing

jingks: The PM is doing a live press conference but isn't saying all that much.



"Hmm. Tell me can that reactor play mah jong?"

/RIIIIISING SUUUUUUN
//I love Legend of Koizumi
//just a bit punchy right now

jingks: The PM is doing a live press conference but isn't saying all that much.

What do you expect him to say? Bug the fark out, panic, flee for you lives!

abhorrent1: Hmm, let go see whats on fark this morning...

*click*

It's not Fark, it's news.com?

Ringshadow:
/junior radiation protection technician

You at South Haven? Looked at your profile and you mentioned Bell's.

Lived near kazoo for a while. Drank a lot of their Porter a couple decades ago. Good stuff. Had a GF lived in Bangor and we went and checked out the plant ~20 years ago now. It was pretty cool.

Just curious.

The Westboro Baptist Church is currently spooing its pants.

reactor 3 was offline for maintenance, IE cold.

2 and 4... and we do not know if they're at plant 1 or plant 2, there is no clarification at this time.

10km radius evac from plant 2, 20km radius evac from plant 1, they are PLANTS of nuclear reactors. You can see where this is going?

This effectively puts plant 1's evac to the southern edge of plant 2's evac, creating a no-zone around both.


Nuclear fueled power reactors never carry "critical mass" loads specifically to avoid actual "hard meltdown". They're always subcritical, usually by a large margin.

Some reactors are very subcritical, like the unit that Georgia Tech was running on the side of the I75/I85 corridor in Atlanta. That reactor had to be actively bombarded by outside energy to be started up. I hear they never had to put out bird poison tho.

So best estimates I can come up with are still sketchy... it seems "reactor 1" went and "reactor 2" and "reactor 4" are headed down the same road at a slower pace. There are six reactors either at each facility or maybe split between them.

Can someone dig up the data?
And the rest of you think for a change?

Shyla: digiprof: I live and work in Japan. All my Japanese friends seem to have 100% consensus that fossil fuels are bad and nukes are good. This was today. Here the news isn't as sensationalized. Japanese are overly sensitive to radiation (not physically). The evacuations are a hypersensitive reaction to very stringent regulations.

How are things for you? Did you lose power, do you have drinking water? Structure damage? Do you have missing friends/relatives?

Everything is ok here. I wish the American media could report how the Japanese are handling this. It's absolutely amazing.

Fail in Human Form: jingks: The PM is doing a live press conference but isn't saying all that much.

What do you expect him to say? Bug the fark out, panic, flee for you lives!

Here is the thing. Officials already know EXACTLY what happened at that reactor, and they knew within minutes. They either need to explain it or not hold press conferences just to say "we are working on determining what happened."

Ringshadow: What building though?! Turbine, reactor, or containment?! Because what one it is SERIOUSLY changes matters..

He didn't say, although he just said they believe Japan had experienced it's first meltdown

/jibtv.com

Fail in Human Form: What do you expect him to say? Bug the fark out, panic, flee for you lives!

He did name-drop Obama, so it's all good.

You can't say that Will Wright didn't warn us about this.

digiprof: Shyla: digiprof: I live and work in Japan. All my Japanese friends seem to have 100% consensus that fossil fuels are bad and nukes are good. This was today. Here the news isn't as sensationalized. Japanese are overly sensitive to radiation (not physically). The evacuations are a hypersensitive reaction to very stringent regulations.

How are things for you? Did you lose power, do you have drinking water? Structure damage? Do you have missing friends/relatives?

Everything is ok here. I wish the American media could report how the Japanese are handling this. It's absolutely amazing.

I have to say, I have been amazed at what I have seen. I am amazed more buildings did not fall. I am amazed that those on camera have been relatively calm and orderly.
It's pretty commendable.

JSTACAT:
I have, for a long time, hated several activities of mankind; Fast cars, fishing, hunting, whaling, Atomic Piles.
These last few days is quite a Coup d' Gras for my ambitions.
Ya feel me now?

You make me want to drive a fast car to catch a ride on a nuclear whaling ship and troll a few nets off the back on our way to the good hunting grounds.

Uchiha_Cycliste:
you'd probably be happiest staying out of the other threads (we/they got/let out a lot of bile before this)=P.

Allow me to quantify my level of brain capacity this week: an onion attacked me while I was trying to cut it. It evaded the blade and sent the knife right into my goddamn hand, got two nice little cuts out of it. The biatch of it is once I did get that onion cut.. it was bad.
Yes. I got my ass kicked by an onion. I am not up to the task of arguing with farkers about my industry right now. I'm considering linking my educomic here though. Seems .. pertinent somehow.

It's great you get paid more when you work more. Sometimes you have to bendover and take it, when you are salaried.

Yeah, I'm never going salaried. My dad had over a thousand unpaid overtime hours in a year once. NOPE. If I'm there you're paying my ass. Sorry.

MadameX: Ringshadow: What building though?! Turbine, reactor, or containment?! Because what one it is SERIOUSLY changes matters..

He didn't say, although he just said they believe Japan had experienced it's first meltdown

/jibtv.com

Good. I wasn't the only one who heard that correctly.

Uchiha_Cycliste: meatofmystery: Uchiha_Cycliste: phoxxy: They increased the the 3 mile evacuation to a 6 mile radius. If there is any type of "doomsday" scenario of this going bad, it would only immediately effect a 6 mile radius.

Haven't they been at 10k for many hours? I don't think I even remember a 5k evacuation.

20 now, isn't it?

As of the last hour or so IIRC.


Not sure, but if you saw it, I wouldn't call you a liar. I could honestly see them doing this if needed. I haven't flipped through the latest reports in the last 30 minutes or so.

Nuclear accidents are bad in general, just everyone trying to say this is going be another Chernobyl needs to understand were talking about two different type of reactors and how a catastrophic event at this reactor won't be on par with the events of Chernobyl. Bad all the way around? Yes. (Radiation bad mmmmkay?) On par with Chernobyl? No.

listening now live to regulator give explanation

explosion at Fukushima #1 was due to steam leaking through cracks in the fractured concrete...more in a sec

The guy just said it's been confirmed that the explosion was a hydrogen explosion and the "container is confirmed not to be damaged". The radiation leak did not increase after the explosion and actually decreased some.

Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark] 2011-03-12 06:20:35 AM

// No, Grasshopper,
No.
Lissen again, this nuke business has gone too far, and its gonna get out of control.
The tragedy in Japan should be the catalyst to eliminate this nuclear foolishness once and for all.

I fully expect the sudden decommissioning of appx 80% of the world's Atomic Piles by the end of 2012, the rest soon after.
How many prices do we have to pay before we catch on?
Hopefully, the lesson we learn from Japan will not be wasted.

It would be appropriate for Japan to lead the way towards removing the threat of nuclear disaster and war from the face of the Earth.
Even moreso that their tragic loss become the motivating power to get this done.

I love the Japanese people, i want them to have this high honor.
To remove the curse of nuclear weapons and ill conceived devices from our Earth.

you are going to hear much of what i just wrote from high places, because it is inevitable.
it is what is called the Hand of Fate,
or the Hand of God,
whatever be your gust.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano says no large amount of radiation leakage is expected.

jingks: phoxxy: 10 kilometers is roughly just over 6 miles.
This just in... unit conversions are hard!

That's what he meant. You said they increased it from 5km (3 miles) to 10km (6 miles) and he said he didn't remember it being 5km.

Naw, initial reports I was seeing earlier were saying 3 miles, not 3 kilometers. If 3 kilometers, then someone doesn't know the difference between a mile and a kilometer in their reporting.

What_Would_Jimi_Do:
seeing the ceo's are taking in 500k a year, the american red cross isn't the number one charity to get direct help to the japanese. i don't know which ones are, but for direct help choose wisely. is all i am saying.

...so you'd much rather people did... what?

Donate to some "local" charity in Japan that someone just made up this afternoon? Give to the International Red Cross, which will take six months to give a small portion to the people in Japan, or redirect it to some other country altogether? The amount a CEO is paid hasn't got a lot to do with whether a charity is any good - and the American Red Cross is, again, one of the premiere first-responder charities on the planet.

Of course, if you want efficient charity, with low administrative overhead, you can find one of the many non-corrupt US-based Christian charities - but their response times are pretty slow, and a lot of Farkers here will whine about them for weeks on end if you give them a chance just because of the religious angle.