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(TampaBay.com (St. Petersburg Tim)   Republican lawmakers introduce bill requiring state parks to build a golf course   (tampabay.com) divider line 112
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2011-03-09 12:50:09 PM
Typical Cinderella story...
 
2011-03-09 12:51:03 PM
Republican socialism at its best.
 
2011-03-09 12:51:20 PM
Edward Abbey is rolling in his sandy grave.
 
2011-03-09 12:51:42 PM
I don't understand, doesn't the free market provide enough golf courses?
 
2011-03-09 12:52:39 PM
Poe's Law
 
2011-03-09 12:53:04 PM
private business can do it better and cheaper
 
2011-03-09 12:54:11 PM
be sure to cut medicaid to pay for a new golf course
 
2011-03-09 12:54:39 PM
Nicklaus, a Golf Hall of Fame inductee, has long lived in Jupiter and he "wanted to do something for Florida - it's a legacy thing,"

Then how about you get some investors together and "do something" the way normal people build golf courses.
 
2011-03-09 12:55:07 PM
Government subsidizing healthcare is bad but government subsidizing golf is good?
 
2011-03-09 12:55:10 PM
I'ts good for the state.. Now watch this drive.

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2011-03-09 12:55:40 PM
And we all know who will get the concession contracts in all those lovely new golf courses.
 
2011-03-09 12:55:56 PM

Rapmaster2000: Nicklaus, a Golf Hall of Fame inductee, has long lived in Jupiter and he "wanted to do something for Florida - it's a legacy thing,"

Then how about you get some investors together and "do something" the way normal people build golf courses.


Because apparently he doesn't have to.
 
2011-03-09 12:56:03 PM
Leave them alone! They are creating a job.
 
2011-03-09 12:56:30 PM
Don't worry, the Tea Party will keep this from happening.

....


um, right?
 
2011-03-09 12:56:32 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: And we all know who will get the concession contracts in all those lovely new golf courses.


Bangladeshis?
 
2011-03-09 12:57:19 PM
Building golf courses is one of the legitimate functions of a small, fiscally conservative government.
 
2011-03-09 12:58:15 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Building golf courses is one of the legitimate functions of a small, fiscally conservative government.


I regret that I have but one mulligan to give for my country club.
 
2011-03-09 12:58:42 PM
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Approves!
 
2011-03-09 12:59:26 PM
The provision calling for hotels is just an option, he said. As for being exempt from local development rules, he said, "we didn't want to have to get snarled up with local government."

So the state imposing on municipalities: ok. The feds imposing on states: not ok.

I should write this down.
 
2011-03-09 12:59:46 PM
Hey! Finally a jobs bill from the GOP!
 
2011-03-09 01:00:19 PM

Macinfarker: Don't worry, the Tea Party will keep this from happening.

....


um, right?


No. There never was a "T-party" only paid FOX employees...
 
2011-03-09 01:00:37 PM
This is why I'm rooting for the alligators.
 
2011-03-09 01:01:32 PM
 
2011-03-09 01:02:21 PM

milhouse?: The provision calling for hotels is just an option, he said. As for being exempt from local development rules, he said, "we didn't want to have to get snarled up with local government."

So the state imposing on municipalities: ok. The feds imposing on states: not ok.

I should write this down.


that's the basic gist of states' rights proponents, yeah
 
2011-03-09 01:02:36 PM
Are we being punked? This isn't an Onion article...?

/wtf
 
2011-03-09 01:04:07 PM
I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.
 
2011-03-09 01:05:26 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Leave them alone! They are creating a job.


As long as we give the super rich another tax break in order to pay for this then I guess it's ok.
 
2011-03-09 01:05:55 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.


This state course is regarded as one of the best in the country, public or private (new window)
 
2011-03-09 01:06:35 PM
When I was in Florida two months ago, the Governor was proposing to close 53 state parks. Link (new window)
 
2011-03-09 01:07:04 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.


Does Jack Nicklaus make low quality golf courses?
 
2011-03-09 01:07:31 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.


Because Jack Nicklaus is going to associate his name with a course covered with sand spurs and bare patches.
 
2011-03-09 01:09:42 PM
Same question I ask Republicans who defend state control of alcohol sales:
Why should the government be in the business of running golf courses? What's the purpose of state run golfing?
 
2011-03-09 01:09:45 PM
How did I know that "Rick the Dick" would be involved with this bullshiat somewhere? I say build your course in the swamp and let the gators caddy for you...
 
2011-03-09 01:09:54 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: Because Jack Nicklaus is going to associate his name with a course covered with sand spurs and bare patches.


Yeah, that's a good point.
 
2011-03-09 01:10:04 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.


Part of the issue is exemption from local ordinances. Huge marsh in the way? Fill it in, build a golf course, no environmental study needed!
 
2011-03-09 01:10:12 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't get the issue here. They already have all kinds of outdoor activities at the parks; what is the big deal with adding golf courses? I suppose there might be a higher maintenance cost, but I doubt these would be of the same high quality of a professional course somewhere else.


Golf courses are super expensive to maintain. That's not really the issue however.

They are talking about cutting tiny amounts of funding from programs they hate under the presumption of "being fiscally conservative" and then trying to mandate an expensive undertaking for other pet issues.

Golf, whatever.... Republicans being hypocrites again but assuring their flock that they are true fiscal conservatives..priceless.
 
2011-03-09 01:11:00 PM
www.umadbro.net


Because, you insufferable fool, why the fark is the government wasting taxpayer money and precious time legislating that states MUST BUILD GOLF COURSES IN NATIONAL PARKS?

There's nothing better to do then to make it against the law for the Parks Service to NOT clearcut a few hundred acres of Yellowstone and plop in 18 holes?

No wars?
No deficit?
No healthcare crisis?
No Republican governors breaking the law by trying to get Democratic legislators arrested?
No Gitmo?
Nothing else better to do than pass a law mandating golf in parks in exchange for huge kickbacks from developers?
 
2011-03-09 01:11:38 PM
Wow. Rick Scott wants to close 8 state parks in st. john's county alone, yet we are going to find the money to bulldoze parts of our other state parks to make room for more goddamn golf courses.

Running the state like a corporation. Fark this guy. I'm getting out of here, Florida sucks.
 
2011-03-09 01:12:23 PM
I suppose the mods will delete this before you read it...

Headline: President Obama rounds up 60 games of golf in the Whitehouse

From the article: His predecessor, George W. Bush, played only 24 times during his entire eight years tenure. President Bush had to face severe criticism for his involvement in the sport and later decided to quit playing all together. On one occasion he said, "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander-in-chief playing golf... And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

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http://blogs.bettor.com/President-Obama-rounds-up-60-games-of-golf-in-the-White h ouse-a58427
 
2011-03-09 01:12:58 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Philip Francis Queeg: Building golf courses is one of the legitimate functions of a small, fiscally conservative government.

I regret that I have but one mulligan to give for my country club.


Jose, can you see, by the lawn's early tuft,
What so proud we eagled at the twilight's last tee-ing?
With broad stripes on white carts, thru the perilous rough,
O'er you caddies who watched, my so gallantly steering?
And the beer girl's blond hair, her shirt bursting in air,
Gave proof through the course that under par was still there.
O say, does that cup-flag banner yet wave
O'er the wood of the free and i-ron of the brave?
 
2011-03-09 01:13:38 PM
"Normally Nicklaus charges $2.5 million to design a golf course, the lobbyist said. But for the Jonathan Dickinson State Park course, Nicklaus, 71, would waive his fee, Smith said. For the other four courses called for in the bills he would charge only a quarter of his fee, or $625,000 per course."

I can do that for free...

X-------0

1. Do *that* 18 times leaving the natural terrain.
2. Mow the grass.
3. Profit??? probably not, but hey, we'll leave that here just in case.

/seriously... Free market, if they were doing *anything* for the state of Florida as a gift, it would be that... a gift... not a taxpayer handout to some old, rich golfer who can't find anyone else willing to pay for his "golf course design" skills.
/Why is he *only* charging $625,000 for each of the other courses? That way he can write off the rest as either a charitable donation or a business loss.
 
2011-03-09 01:13:39 PM
Well, on second thought, if the golf courses keep the state from closing the parks completely, then I guess I'd be for this plan.
 
2011-03-09 01:14:26 PM
I think park districts need to build more roller skating rinks. Because I like roller skating and parks should spend money to build things *I* like.


/that was sarcasm
//there really aren't enough roller skating rinks, though.
 
2011-03-09 01:14:41 PM
Stupid or evil. Used to be hard to differentiate.
 
2011-03-09 01:14:47 PM

misterrobot: I suppose the mods will delete this before you read it...

Headline: President Obama rounds up 60 games of golf in the Whitehouse

From the article: His predecessor, George W. Bush, played only 24 times during his entire eight years tenure. President Bush had to face severe criticism for his involvement in the sport and later decided to quit playing all together. On one occasion he said, "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander-in-chief playing golf... And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."



http://blogs.bettor.com/President-Obama-rounds-up-60-games-of-golf-in-the-White h ouse-a58427


Bush also invaded Iraq but he gave up golf for awhile so it's OK.
 
2011-03-09 01:14:55 PM
Let me see if I get this scam, as expressed as a series of headlines.

March, 2011: Republican lawmakers introduce bill to build a golf course on a state park.

January: 2012: Republican lawmakers introduce bull to reduce taxes on top earners.

February 2012: Republican lawmakers attend ribbon cutting of golf course at state park.

March 2013: Republican lawmakers introduce bill to reduce spending via no-bid sale of state parks to handle state defecit.

April 2013: Koch industries to move into leisure industry with purchase of privatized bootstraps country club.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2011-03-09 01:15:12 PM

skullkrusher: milhouse?: The provision calling for hotels is just an option, he said. As for being exempt from local development rules, he said, "we didn't want to have to get snarled up with local government."

So the state imposing on municipalities: ok. The feds imposing on states: not ok.

I should write this down.

that's the basic gist of states' rights proponents, yeah


Yeap, for example during the Confederacy, small towns couldn't decide not to allow slavery.
 
2011-03-09 01:19:03 PM

fritton: They are talking about cutting tiny amounts of funding from programs they hate under the presumption of "being fiscally conservative" and then trying to mandate an expensive undertaking for other pet issues.


Well, the "big spending Democrats" and the "small government Republicans" dichotomy really breaks down at the local level. I don't know if I'd explicitly call it hypocrisy unless these exact lawmakers were also calling for cutting other programs under the guise of fiscal conservatism. I'm not all that familiar with Florida politics, unfortunately.
 
2011-03-09 01:19:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: Well, on second thought, if the golf courses keep the state from closing the parks completely, then I guess I'd be for this plan.


is that a danger in FL? Dunno how it works down there but in NY towns and the state owns parks and charge a nominal fee ($20 IIRC) for a "leisure pass" which is good for entry into them, parking, etc for a season. They have that sort of thing in FL?
 
2011-03-09 01:20:03 PM

misterrobot: I suppose the mods will delete this before you read it...

Headline: President Obama rounds up 60 games of golf in the Whitehouse

From the article: His predecessor, George W. Bush, played only 24 times during his entire eight years tenure. President Bush had to face severe criticism for his involvement in the sport and later decided to quit playing all together. On one occasion he said, "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander-in-chief playing golf... And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."



http://blogs.bettor.com/President-Obama-rounds-up-60-games-of-golf-in-the-White h ouse-a58427


Wait until the mods see this! Oh man, you've really done it now. This guy doesn't care whose toes he steps on. He is totally in my face.
 
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