Isolated incidents.

Do they hire and fire their officers every year? There isn't a single indivdual on each shift that can remember: "hey, that's that computer SNAFU" when they're sitting in shift change/briefing room getting their assignments?

I read these stories and sometimes think I and the poor souls involved live on completely different planets.

By the way, police: Be the grown-ups. Apologize. And don't do it again.

/there, that was simple.

They should probably rent out a room to a cop who usually gets assigned on raids. These things tend to get fixed faster when somebody involved has a personal stake in the matter.

kingoomieiii: Fizpez: Do they hire and fire their officers every year? There isn't a single indivdual on each shift that can remember: "hey, that's that computer SNAFU" when they're sitting in shift change/briefing room getting their assignments?

Legally they HAVE to visit if it pops up. HAVE to. Or else you end up with a situation where those folks report an ACTUAL robbery in progress, and it's ignored, because that address has been crying wolf for years.

You may be right, but that was a particularly bad way of stating it.

So, author, tell us how you really feel about the police.

CSB

I know someone who was a paramedic with FDNY and they had an a few emergency calls to an apartment complex (say apartment #99) and there was a plaque on the neighboring apartment (say apartment #100) that roughly said "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANYONE TO BREAK DOWN THIS DOOR OR HARASS THE OCCUPANTS INSIDE"
My friend asked what that was about and it turned out to be what happened in the article.

Police incompetence yes, but the blinding bias from the author of that piece is worse than pathetic.

dittybopper: What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

Did you mean:
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Durant, Bryan, OK 74701
1313 Mockingbird Ln, DeSoto, Dallas, TX 75115
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Sulphur Springs, Hopkins, TX 75482
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Olney, Young, TX 76374
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Longview, Gregg, TX 75601
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Conway, Faulkner, AR 72032
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Denton, TX 76209
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Dillsboro, Jackson, NC 28779
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Muskogee, OK 74401
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Tyler, Smith, TX 75701

dittybopper: kingoomieiii: Fizpez: Do they hire and fire their officers every year? There isn't a single indivdual on each shift that can remember: "hey, that's that computer SNAFU" when they're sitting in shift change/briefing room getting their assignments?

Legally they HAVE to visit if it pops up. HAVE to. Or else you end up with a situation where those folks report an ACTUAL robbery in progress, and it's ignored, because that address has been crying wolf for years.

Not the same. This is for warrants, not 911 calls. As I recall, this is a case where the police ended up using that address as the 'default' address on their electronic warrant application, and it happens to be a real address.

What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

Seems to me that the people involved have a *VERY* good case for suing the government here.

If there has to be a default, the default should be blank. What possible reason is there to automatically fill in an address on a search warrant? Is typing just too strenuous?

More_Like_A_Stain: If there has to be a default, the default should be blank. What possible reason is there to automatically fill in an address on a search warrant? Is typing just too strenuous?

Make the default be the address of the police station.

Good: Someone sees the address and realizes something's wrong.
Hilarious: They don't notice the address is wrong. :)

nytmare: but the blinding bias from the author of that piece is worse than pathetic.

To rub even more salt into the wounds this frigging article is a rehash of one FROM A YEAR AGO.

dittybopper: kingoomieiii: Fizpez: Do they hire and fire their officers every year? There isn't a single indivdual on each shift that can remember: "hey, that's that computer SNAFU" when they're sitting in shift change/briefing room getting their assignments?

Legally they HAVE to visit if it pops up. HAVE to. Or else you end up with a situation where those folks report an ACTUAL robbery in progress, and it's ignored, because that address has been crying wolf for years.

Not the same. This is for warrants, not 911 calls. As I recall, this is a case where the police ended up using that address as the 'default' address on their electronic warrant application, and it happens to be a real address.

What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

Seems to me that the people involved have a *VERY* good case for suing the government here.

Good practice would remove the "default" address. Since a "default" address on a legal form invalidates the form right from the start.

Further, while I can see that you would want to test the system with a real address, why the fark wouldn't you use a local precinct office?

I'd have a case in the courts by now, against the police, city, state, and the asshole contractors that made the software in the first place. I'd allege an ongoing scare campaign, damages and emotional distress. Then, in my will (if I were old like these people) it would say that my lawyer will initiate wrongful death proceedings against all the same people, claiming the shock and horror of being victimized by the police for years and years contributed to my decline and eventually my death.

But then, I have no love for the police acting badly.

Aidan: More_Like_A_Stain: If there has to be a default, the default should be blank. What possible reason is there to automatically fill in an address on a search warrant? Is typing just too strenuous?

Make the default be the address of the police station police chiefs home.

Good: Someone sees the address and realizes something's wrong.
Hilarious: They don't notice the address is wrong. :)

better

So, the previous owner sold the place to the current residents because he had the same problem during the `90's, but the programming BS didn't occur until 2002? (not, WTF? but, rather, SOP).

I'd pay extra to have that address (can think of several ways to take advantage of either the cops, or any potential renters).

/if the authorities insist on maintaining a farked up system expect entrepreneurs to fark with it

More_Like_A_Stain: Aidan: More_Like_A_Stain: If there has to be a default, the default should be blank. What possible reason is there to automatically fill in an address on a search warrant? Is typing just too strenuous?

Make the default be the address of the police station police chiefs home.

Good: Someone sees the address and realizes something's wrong.
Hilarious: They don't notice the address is wrong. :)

better

I like the way you think!

FTA

Sure, it's horrible when men-in-black kick down an innocent person's door in the middle of the night, toss deadly flashbang grenades inside, scream at the occupants, throw them to the ground at gunpoint, and ransack their home, but we shouldn't get to worked up about this sort of thing because it's just so damn rare, right?

Exactly how deadly are flashbangs?

dittybopper: What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

How about the address of the police station?

Theaetetus: dittybopper: What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

How about the address of the police station?

Or the Mayors office. Or the court house. Wouldn't that be fun? 80 search warrants issued to search the offices of the idiot judges signing the warrants?

The article says VISITED BY POLICE, not raided...trollmitter.

123 Fake Street

kingoomieiii: spoonorama: FTA

Sure, it's horrible when men-in-black kick down an innocent person's door in the middle of the night, toss deadly flashbang grenades inside, scream at the occupants, throw them to the ground at gunpoint, and ransack their home, but we shouldn't get to worked up about this sort of thing because it's just so damn rare, right?

Exactly how deadly are flashbangs?

If it's in your mouth when it goes off? Pretty deadly.
Otherwise...

Ever put a flashbang in your mouth when it went off...on weed?

milowitz: The article says VISITED BY POLICE, not raided...trollmitter.

When they have a search warrant in hand, they're not really there to visit.

Sue the bastards.

More_Like_A_Stain: Theaetetus: dittybopper: What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

How about the address of the police station?

Or the Mayors office.

That wouldn't stop them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR200807300329 9. html (new window)
"Police Raid Berwyn Heights Mayor's Home, Kill His 2 Dogs"

Long story short- a package of drugs was found at a sorting facility. The cops hand-delivered it to the mayors house, he returned from walkign his dogs, assumed it was something his wife ordered, brought it inside, and the cops busted in. They shot his two dogs, one of which was running away. In the end, turns out there were people who worked for the package company that would...detour packages for certain addresses, IIRC. So, the mayor was totally innocent.

feffer: 123 Fake Street

Did you mean:
123 Fake Dr, Luray, Page, VA 22835
123 Fake Ln, Orangeburg, SC 29118
123 Fake Minisink Turnpike, New Hampton, Orange, NY 10958

Of course, none of the police who participated in this lengthy campaign of harassment will ever spend a second behind bars or have to pay even a cent of damages to the people they terrorized. Perhaps that's why they felt comfortable ignoring all the complaints filed against them and using their lame "computer glitch" excuse - which doesn't even begin to make sense - to explain away their own thuggishness and incompetence.

Go fark yourself in the ass, cop-hater. Your anger about police "terrorizing" people has no relevance to this story.

fredklein: feffer: 123 Fake Street

Did you mean:
123 Fake Dr, Luray, Page, VA 22835
123 Fake Ln, Orangeburg, SC 29118
123 Fake Minisink Turnpike, New Hampton, Orange, NY 10958

I don't know, I was just quoting The Simpsons.

poot_rootbeer: Of course, none of the police who participated in this lengthy campaign of harassment will ever spend a second behind bars or have to pay even a cent of damages to the people they terrorized. Perhaps that's why they felt comfortable ignoring all the complaints filed against them and using their lame "computer glitch" excuse - which doesn't even begin to make sense - to explain away their own thuggishness and incompetence.

Go fark yourself in the ass, cop-hater. Your anger about police "terrorizing" people has no relevance to this story.

Alright then cop fellator, we've arranged to have your local cop shop pay you a visit every day for the next two months. If I was you I'd start making the tea and crumpets now... I hear they like pastries.

poot_rootbeer: Go fark yourself in the ass, cop-hater. Your anger about police "terrorizing" people has no relevance to this story.

Yeah, what relevancy does that have in a story about police terrorizing people.

fredklein: dittybopper: What should happen is that if they have to use a 'default' for some reason, it should be something unambiguously fictional, like "1313 Mockingbird Lane", or whatever.

Did you mean:
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Durant, Bryan, OK 74701
1313 Mockingbird Ln, DeSoto, Dallas, TX 75115
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Sulphur Springs, Hopkins, TX 75482
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Olney, Young, TX 76374
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Longview, Gregg, TX 75601
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Conway, Faulkner, AR 72032
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Denton, TX 76209
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Dillsboro, Jackson, NC 28779
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Muskogee, OK 74401
1313 Mockingbird Ln, Tyler, Smith, TX 75701

WTFBBQ ANONYMOUS KNOWS WHERE I LIVE NOW

Guidette Frankentits: CSB

I know someone who was a paramedic with FDNY and they had an a few emergency calls to an apartment complex (say apartment #99) and there was a plaque on the neighboring apartment (say apartment #100) that roughly said "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANYONE TO BREAK DOWN THIS DOOR OR HARASS THE OCCUPANTS INSIDE"
My friend asked what that was about and it turned out to be what happened in the article.


With that in place and a letter stating this from the Police Commissioner, you have now the most perfect place to keep your weed.

Subby, why should THEY move.

Headline should conclude "and this is why they created AP ammo".

An unrelated glitch sends checks of most of the officers involved in the raids to an unsuspicious looking address in the Grand Caymans.

Priapetic: How about 1060 W. Addison Street?

1060 West Addison... that's Wrigley Field.

How about:

123 THISADDRESSINTENTIONALLYLEFTBLANK COURT

83, eh? Just start answering the door naked. That'll put a stop to those raids right quick.