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2011-03-05 11:51:48 AM
MMmmmmmm yellow cake.

www.roadfood.com
 
2011-03-05 11:59:57 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: MMmmmmmm yellow cake.


mmm chocolate frosting
 
2011-03-05 12:02:09 PM
Raise bore drilling at Canada's McArthur River, the world's largest high-grade uranium mine.

Someone left a yellow cake out in the rain?
 
2011-03-05 12:05:35 PM
PANIC we are running out
um, whatever

new mines, new processing plants, new thorium reactors, new reprocessing of spent fuel rods.

yah, about that panic.

good thing our energy policy is left to the private sector.
they will do everything in their best interest.

wait, what about the public?!!
LOL

/what did people think would happen when you privatize power plants?
 
2011-03-05 12:39:03 PM
i'll just trick some Libyans into giving me plutonium.
 
2011-03-05 12:41:41 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Raise bore drilling at Canada's McArthur River, the world's largest high-grade uranium mine.

Someone left a yellow cake out in the rain?


That was awesome
 
2011-03-05 12:41:48 PM

MrLint: i'll just trick some Libyans into giving me plutonium.


Just remember your bullet proof vest.
 
2011-03-05 12:41:50 PM

namatad: yah, about that panic.

good thing our energy policy is left to the private sector.
they will do everything in their best interest.

wait, what about the public?!!
LOL


Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! Government: let's institute price controls and/or give subsidies to users of that commodity. Which one is going to be better in the long run?
 
2011-03-05 12:43:31 PM

jjorsett: Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! Government: let's institute price controls and/or give subsidies to users of that commodity. Which one is going to be better in the long run?


Because production is the only factor that matters.

/Which one is notorious for hazardous cost-cutting measures?
 
2011-03-05 12:43:51 PM
farking morons.

Thorium reactors are much better than uranium, problem solved.
 
2011-03-05 12:46:45 PM
cmon, get some breeder reactors going already. make that spent fuel useful again.
 
2011-03-05 12:48:43 PM

MrLint: i'll just trick some Libyans into giving me plutonium.


Isn't plutonium available in every corner drugstore?
 
2011-03-05 12:49:06 PM
It's not going to be that hard. You've been able to buy plutonium on every street corner since 1985.
 
2011-03-05 12:49:44 PM

Nem Wan: MrLint: i'll just trick some Libyans into giving me plutonium.

Isn't plutonium available in every corner drugstore?


Damn. Beat me to it.
 
2011-03-05 12:50:28 PM
Nem Wan

Isn't plutonium available in every corner drugstore?

Hasn't been for years. The meth heads ruined that one for everybody.
 
2011-03-05 12:52:05 PM
blogs.discovermagazine.com

Even if you run it on cheap beer?
 
2011-03-05 12:54:18 PM
Hillbilly Jim: That was awesome

*tip o' the hat*

Cheers!
 
2011-03-05 12:55:18 PM
Man, was wondering when someone would post a pic of Doc Brown...
 
2011-03-05 12:56:55 PM
Uranium hit a three-year high of $73

That's it? $73? Hell people overturn governments for that many pounds of gold.
 
2011-03-05 12:58:57 PM
Gawd, I hope everyone's brakes are in good shape.

img4.imageshack.us
 
2011-03-05 01:00:02 PM
As a junior radiation protection technician: BWAHAHAHAH.

Yes, fuel costs. But generally you only refuel every 18 to 24 months, and each bundle gets burned three times if not more in certain configurations.

Also: FUEL RECYCLING. Please? Pretty please?
 
2011-03-05 01:02:01 PM
Hey, I heard Iran has a surplus; maybe we could go bomb the fark out of them and take theirs? I'm sure Israel won't mind a bit.
Honestly, the article reeks of bullshiat. Breeder reactors are almost too easy to make, and we have freakin' STOCK PILES of both used and spend shiat everywhere; hell, Savannah and Crystal River alone could re-stock the entire current US demand for new fuel if we utilized what we have on hand. The real problem is that energy demand is growing faster than we can get new nuke reactors approved and built; supplying them with fuel isn't an issue at all, and it pays for itself in short time.
The biggest crisis is that our 40 - 60 year-old reactors are all on the verge of failing, falling apart, or are being decommissioned before that is an issue; the older infrastructure is past it's prime and badly in need of replacement. Dealing with things like fragile Titanium pipes, secondary rad waste, and other industrial waste from the closed reactors will surely be a high cost issue, as the previously mentioned sites are currently de-facto holding bins for waste we have no idea what else to do with.
 
2011-03-05 01:03:24 PM

jjorsett: Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! foster speculation to drive prices up even further!


FTF private energy companies.
 
2011-03-05 01:03:57 PM
FTA: "Along with existing above-ground supplies, the repurposed Soviet material accounts for nearly half of the annual requirements of the world's nuclear fleet. That means that the yearly supply of newly mined uranium falls short of demand by 40-50%."

Yep, no problem there . . . we already have the largest buildout of reactors in the world, it makes complete sense to add more - especially as fuel supplies dwindle.
 
2011-03-05 01:04:13 PM

James F. Campbell: jjorsett: Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! Government: let's institute price controls and/or give subsidies to users of that commodity. Which one is going to be better in the long run?

Because production is the only factor that matters.

/Which one is notorious for hazardous cost-cutting measures?


That's why one institutes sensible regulation. A preference for capitalism is not synonymous with a desire for anarchy.
 
2011-03-05 01:05:43 PM
img811.imageshack.us

Cost of electrical power per KWH by various generation methods. The bar on the far left is nuclear. This is data from 2008, before these price increases.

From here (with a much more readable graph)
 
2011-03-05 01:07:59 PM

jjorsett: namatad: yah, about that panic.

good thing our energy policy is left to the private sector.
they will do everything in their best interest.

wait, what about the public?!!
LOL

Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! Government: let's institute price controls and/or give subsidies to users of that commodity. Which one is going to be better in the long run?


You really didn't read and/or understand the article did you?
 
2011-03-05 01:08:10 PM

odinsposse: jjorsett: Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! foster speculation to drive prices up even further!

FTF private energy companies.


Speculation is the latest scare-word for people who either don't want or don't understand free markets.
 
2011-03-05 01:11:05 PM

jjorsett: Speculation is the latest scare-word for people who either don't want or don't understand free markets.


It also starves people.

So it has that going for it, which is nice.

Yay free market.
 
2011-03-05 01:11:14 PM

XveryYpettyZ: jjorsett: namatad: yah, about that panic.

good thing our energy policy is left to the private sector.
they will do everything in their best interest.

wait, what about the public?!!
LOL

Price of something goes up. Private industry: let's ramp up production! Government: let's institute price controls and/or give subsidies to users of that commodity. Which one is going to be better in the long run?

You really didn't read and/or understand the article did you?


I was responding to the earlier poster who was engaging in a non-sequiturial excursion of his own, freeing me to do likewise.
 
2011-03-05 01:12:15 PM
Oh, and by the way: They've been banging on this scare tactic drum for THIRTY YEARS NOW.

I remain unimpressed. Gen IV reactors are moving away from Uranium, for starters, Gen III and III+ can burn plutonium, and there is always FUEL RECYCLING.
 
2011-03-05 01:16:17 PM

Ringshadow: Oh, and by the way: They've been banging on this scare tactic drum for THIRTY YEARS NOW.

I remain unimpressed. Gen IV reactors are moving away from Uranium, for starters, Gen III and III+ can burn plutonium, and there is always FUEL RECYCLING.


Well now don't you start with your "talkin sensible", we'll be having none of that here!
 
2011-03-05 01:18:34 PM
Well apart from the fact that a power plant doesnt burn all its fuel at once, thorium is plentiful, and the reactor designs are simpler and safer. Until the uranium cartels move in!
 
2011-03-05 01:20:29 PM
Simple solution really, build reactors that run on Charlie Sheen.
 
2011-03-05 01:20:53 PM
 
2011-03-05 01:21:32 PM

Je5tEr: Simple solution really, build reactors that run on Charlie Sheen.


That's pretty attractive.
 
2011-03-05 01:21:52 PM
Je5tEr: Simple solution really, build reactors that run on Charlie Sheen.

You've heard of turbines that run on wind.

These?

These are turbines that run on WINNING.
 
2011-03-05 01:23:04 PM

Je5tEr: Simple solution really, build reactors that run on Charlie Sheen.


Isn't coke just a byproduct?
 
2011-03-05 01:24:09 PM

CthulhuCalling: Well apart from the fact that a power plant doesnt burn all its fuel at once, thorium is plentiful, and the reactor designs are simpler and safer. Until the uranium cartels move in!


You won't see a thorium reactor until Gen IV kicks in, which will be between 2025 and 2030, most likely. Right now we're coming into Gen III+, which is still U235 powered, but they refuel less AFAIK. Look into the Gen IV Forum for more on that. What we're likely to start seeing built here soon will be the Westinghouse AP 1000 (Vogtle 3 and 4), and the GE Hitachi ABWR (South Texas Project).

As for uranium cartels? Har de har. When you burn fuel you're burning less than half the available uranium even after three burns. If we were a sensible country, we'd set up like France and Japan and recycle fuel after the bundles have had a cooldown (five to ten years), and we have so many twenty year old used bundles knocking around that if we set up a recycling center, we likely wouldn't need new fuel for years.

/yes, I am seriously banging on the recycling drum
//fuel recycling is currently illegal in the US because of wording in a nuclear proliferation law set down by Carter
 
2011-03-05 01:25:14 PM
So will it cost more to recharge my Volt than to fill up my Prius?
 
2011-03-05 01:26:00 PM

Fart_Machine: Even if you run it on cheap beer?


That only works if you pour the beer in first, THEN throw in the can. Only an idiot would just put the half full can in...
 
2011-03-05 01:27:56 PM

Skleenar: jjorsett: Speculation is the latest scare-word for people who either don't want or don't understand free markets.

It also starves people.

So it has that going for it, which is nice.

Yay free market.


I speculate that when armed mobs are running around the country taking rich people's shiat away from them at gunpoint, that toilet paper will be at a premium. Which is why I've been stocking up.
 
2011-03-05 01:30:40 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Je5tEr: Simple solution really, build reactors that run on Charlie Sheen.

You've heard of turbines that run on wind.

These?

These are turbines that run on WINNING.


www.homepagedaily.com
 
2011-03-05 01:31:13 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: I speculate that when armed mobs are running around the country taking rich people's shiat away from them at gunpoint, that toilet paper will be at a premium. Which is why I've been stocking up.


Way to support the Kochs, capitalist running dog.
 
2011-03-05 01:39:26 PM
The actual cost of fuel constitutes a very small portion of nuclear electricity's overall cost. Oh, and all that 'Nuclear Waste' stored on site at nuclear reactors. Well, its actually fuel, having only about 2% of the available energy content used up. So all we need to do if uranium starts getting scarce is to start reprocessing all that used fuel.

Moreover, there is "new" technology that can radically alter the nuclear industry, such as liquid salt thorium reactors and the traveling wave reactor that can use DEPLETED uranium as fuel and run 50 to a hundred years before needing to be refilled.

I think its amusing that any carbon tax on energy sources will make nuclear energy much more competitive.
 
2011-03-05 01:42:50 PM
Ringshadow: www.homepagedaily.com

*tip o' the hat*

Much obliged - thank ya kindly!
 
2011-03-05 01:50:21 PM

Skleenar: Wittenberg Dropout: I speculate that when armed mobs are running around the country taking rich people's shiat away from them at gunpoint, that toilet paper will be at a premium. Which is why I've been stocking up.

Way to support the Kochs, capitalist running dog.


That's why I got me three shells instead.
 
2011-03-05 01:55:34 PM
At these prices, who can AFFORD to nuke anyone?
 
2011-03-05 02:07:28 PM

germ78: Skleenar: Wittenberg Dropout: I speculate that when armed mobs are running around the country taking rich people's shiat away from them at gunpoint, that toilet paper will be at a premium. Which is why I've been stocking up.

Way to support the Kochs, capitalist running dog.

That's why I got me three shells instead.


How do you...? Nevermind.
 
2011-03-05 02:18:46 PM
Two words: traveling wave reactor.

It's so efficient that I got an extra word.
 
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