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(Canada.com)   The "eccentric man" who moves big rocks solves one of the world's great mysteries: How to build a pyramid   (canada.com) divider line 57
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2003-07-27 12:18:30 AM
I hate the word "eccentric." I'm convinced its one of those words stupid people use to sound important or intellegent. Back in 2000 or 2001 every TV network had at least one show featuring an "eccentirc person or family." Lame asses.

Eccentric just means strange or differnet, not the norm.
 
2003-07-27 02:16:00 AM
"Eccentric" is just a euphamism for bat shiat insane.
 
2003-07-27 02:16:09 AM
actually, after careful reading and some good Colorado microbrews.. i think his idea is very plausible.
 
2003-07-27 02:17:06 AM
There are at least three people on this earth who have "solved" the mystery of the pyramids in the same fashion.... Yawn... I think I'll go back to my Absolut Vanilla and Coke now.
 
2003-07-27 02:19:02 AM
He's gonna be on the cover of next month's Rolling Stone, I heard.
 
2003-07-27 02:20:09 AM
vipervicious "Poor people are crazy, Jack. I'm eccentric."
 
2003-07-27 02:26:14 AM
This guy was obviously around when the pyramids were built. That's the only way to know for sure.
 
2003-07-27 02:36:42 AM
He must have been smoking the same shiat I am now.
 
2003-07-27 02:37:30 AM
His "attach curved wooden planks to all 4 sides of the rock and roll it" theory is definately much more of an intelligent solution than the traditional "get 500 slaves and pull it with a rope" theory.

The egyptians developed a very advanced civilization, and mastered the art of wood working. I think this rolling idea is much more plausible than the traditional theory.
 
2003-07-27 02:37:38 AM
Found the secrets of the pyramid? heh. Rolling a rock can maybe, and maybe solve the problem of transporting a big rock up to a few tons.

Still it doesn't explain how they moved the 200+ tons rock from the carving site to the pyramid construction side in just a few hours. And most inportant, how did they align the rock on the pyramid with a precision of a few centimeters.
 
2003-07-27 02:38:14 AM
Are other big news sites going to report this now like the Stonehenge Vagina?
 
2003-07-27 02:38:40 AM
Seriously, that's a pretty good theory on how to do it. I wish the article went into more detail about how exactly you got the topmost rocks into position, though. (unless this theory doesn't extend that far) I never particularly believed they used brute force; there had to be some engineering trick involved.

Unless of course you believe space aliens who enslaved humanity built them. ;-)
 
2003-07-27 02:40:08 AM
Damn. Forget sleds, or rolling the blocks on a path of logs... just build a "barrel" of wood around the block and roll the f**ker to the site... brilliant. Why the hell did it take us moderns so long to figure this out. Kick ass, eccentric man!
 
2003-07-27 02:40:31 AM
This is one of those "Why the hell didn't somebody think of that!" moments. This is so DUH! obvious. I grew up on a farm, and I never lifted or dragged stones, I always rolled them out of the way. It is the obvious and right thing to do. :)
J.
 
2003-07-27 02:44:13 AM
"I've had a seven-year-old girl pull 535 pounds herself," he said.



Welcome to my world, Mr. Raina. . . .


Welcome to my world. . . .
 
2003-07-27 02:47:00 AM
"Unless of course you believe space aliens who enslaved humanity built them. ;-)"

Ra could not be reached for comment.
 
2003-07-27 02:50:03 AM
This rocks, and undoubtedly works, but it doesn't conclusively prove that it's the way the Egyptians did it. But "In your face, big science!" stories like this are always so heartwarming, it's hard not to hope it turns out that way.

Moral: There's more than one way to skin a sacred cat.
 
2003-07-27 02:52:28 AM
Skinned sacred cat? You be the judge.

 
2003-07-27 02:58:08 AM
Hey, after a 18 Labatt's, I think I can do anything too.
 
2003-07-27 02:58:57 AM
High-tech engineering drawing of ancient technology:


/Chariots of the Gods?
 
2003-07-27 03:02:25 AM
>His "attach curved wooden planks to all 4 sides of the rock and roll it" theory is definately much more of an intelligent solution than the traditional "get 500 slaves and pull it with a rope" theory.

Yes and no. Depending on how much manpower you have and depending on the effort involved in quarry rocks in such a way that they can be rolled (uphill no less) he may or may not be right.

At best this is a very early hypothesis, albiet a very interesting one. I wouldn't throw the wrap party yet, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Also, this article is far from an exhaustive view into other theories on how large slabs were moved.

There are more than few theories regarding how ancients moved large slabs of stone and this is just another. Just because its seemingly more efficient doesn't mean it was done that way.

Arguably, the only way you can come to a conclusive answer is to find something in the archaological record that supports this. This probably isn't possible, so how stones were moved by the ancients may just be a question with many plausible answers.
 
2003-07-27 03:06:29 AM
Mr. Raina believes that the rectangular rocks were moved from the quarry to the site of the pyramid by fastening wooden planks to the four sides of the slabs (almost like the bottom of a rocking chair) and then pulling it along with a rope so it rolls.


I have invented..... The 4-sided wheel! And for my next project......

 
2003-07-27 03:07:19 AM
If the pyramid stones have no moss, then this was cleary how they moved them.
 
2003-07-27 03:19:13 AM
Bah, I've know for years and years how to build a pyramide wihtout using any labour at all on my part:

1. become God-King of an advanced bronceage civilization
2. drop a few hints that a pyramide would be a nice thing to have, and that you might let your most trusted minister live if he makes sure you get one.
3. sit back and watch the pyramide take shape

See? No labour expended at all... why do people always heve to make it sounds difficult?
 
2003-07-27 03:19:43 AM
Finally, Ringtoll, a testable hypothesis...
 
2003-07-27 03:23:31 AM
Just wait until someone calls him in for child abuse, for making a 7-year-old girl drag 585 pounds....
 
2003-07-27 03:26:13 AM
Using rollers under the rock isn't THAT much less efficient than doing this. You'd only need probably 30% more slaves.
 
2003-07-27 03:50:48 AM
The method make a lot of sense. But you'd think there might be some evidence for this. Carvings in stone or something.
I think there is evidence for sled usage somewhere.
 
2003-07-27 03:56:44 AM
Although he is a member of the Inventors Association in Ottawa, Mr. Raina has no scientific background or training. He has worked most of his life as a window consultant.

Well shiat, that's about the equivalent of a PhD in Egyptology, ain't it?

I'm actually from Ottawa - I'm looking forward to visiting the next Wonder Of The World when this dude finishes the modern version of the pyramids right there in my hometown, thanks to his crackpot, but perfectly logical theories.

Weed being legal in Canada just kicks ass - I'm really looking forward to the next year's worth of Local News sections in Canadian newspapers.
 
2003-07-27 04:05:03 AM
plausible,

i always like the theory of matterhorn size didgeredoo's
resonatating at a low enough frequencey to vibrate the
sand an push a great stone block effortlesly across the groud/sound waves
 
2003-07-27 04:24:27 AM
 
2003-07-27 04:40:02 AM
Actually, they had a limitless supply of slaves. So they'd put a big line of them in front of the stone and drag it up the ramp. Too much friction you say? Ah! See, there was a continuous stream of slaves running to the front of the rope everybody was pulling on. As the slaves got more tired, they would keep moving down the rope towards the stone because they couldn't keep up. Once they became completely exhausted, they would fall under the stone and become lubrication.
 
2003-07-27 05:44:32 AM
This is such a good idea.

I'm glad i thought of it.
 
2003-07-27 07:20:02 AM
The pyramids were not built by slaves. Egypt did not have a big enough standing army in the Old Kingdom to use forced slave labor, plus there is no mention of slaves being used in any ancient sources.
 
2003-07-27 08:27:35 AM
That's interesting Christian Bale.
The only one unimpressed by Coral Castle is "Sweet Sixteen," who knew of the Castle for years but never visited.
Wow. what a biatch.
 
2003-07-27 09:34:27 AM
He has worked most of his life as a window consultant.

Ah, yes... but is he certified?

/nothing
 
2003-07-27 09:34:30 AM
Kinda reminds me of "Bill the Janitor" I once met. Bill had a theory, that the only thing that made somone smart is knowing words that other people didn't know. Doctors/chemists/lawyers "Must" be smart because they use words most people wouldn't understand.

So Bill had a plan to become "Smart", he was writing his very own dictionary filled with words that he had made up.

I believe that Bill was an eccentric......
 
2003-07-27 10:31:21 AM
Thanks Christian Bale. I was going to request someone find a link to that story. I am too hungover to be bothered with it. Good job!
 
2003-07-27 10:32:43 AM
Now someone post a link to the secret behind the monks using drums and horns to make rocks levitate. That would rock!

heh heh heh
 
2003-07-27 10:51:19 AM
Rule #1 for rolling big rocks: Be careful on hills.
 
2003-07-27 11:03:25 AM
This interests me...
 
2003-07-27 12:04:02 PM
Interesting... not only did they move the things, they cut 'em with tools that didn't exist, measured 'em with precision that didn't exist, and placed them to fit dimensions that couldn't have been known...

"The original perimeter of the pyramid equals exactly one-half minute of latitude at the equator, indicating that its builders measured the earth with extreme precision and recorded this information in the dimensions of the structure. Altogether these measurements show that the builders knew the exact dimensions of the planet as precisely as they have been recently determined by satellite surveys."

More here
 
2003-07-27 12:10:16 PM
Very intresting seems as if it could be done. Imo i think aliens did it
 
2003-07-27 12:41:26 PM
"Nick Raina figured out how the Egyptians built the Great Pyramid 10 years ago"

Gee, I thought they were built at least 20 years ago!
 
2003-07-27 01:13:50 PM
RadiationDude:

I wonder if you've ever heard of some people called the Israelites.
 
2003-07-27 02:09:48 PM
Still more BS. Egyptologists say the Great Pyramid was built in 23 years. If you take the number of blocks and divide that by the number of minutes available, the Egyptians had to quarry, transport, and set a block EVERY 5.25 MINUTES FOR 23 YEARS. And align the blocks very precicely, prepare the foundation, and build underground and interior chambers. The average weight of a block is 2.5 tons (about the weight of a maxed out Ford Explorer) with some blocks weighing 200 tons.

Egytology is crap and the only reason it's kept around as a "science" is that without it, history as we know it collapses.

/Graham Hancock
 
2003-07-27 03:07:59 PM
cbm5
I wonder if you've ever heard of some people called the Israelites.

The Israelites may have been slaves in Egypt, but it's doubtful they built the Pyramids. Last time I checked, historians believe the Exodus took place some time around 1500 BC. By that time, the Great Pyramid and its neighbors were already a thousand years old.
 
2003-07-27 04:08:55 PM
Really people its all so simple:

The Egyptians used Giant Mecha Robots to pick up and move the rocks into position, and then they would use their anit-matter eye beams to smooth them into the perfect shape for insertion. When the pyramid got to tall to reach, they could combine into the Mighty Mega Ra-X super robot which would be large enough to finish the project. See simple and all built with currently existing technology of the time.
 
2003-07-27 06:39:02 PM

1.Put some water in the sandbox
2. Get a square bucket and pack the wet sand into it.
3. Flip bucket upside-down in sandbox.
4.Tap on bottom of bucket and lift; if done correctly, you should have a nice square mound of sand.
5. Using a thin, keen object such as a non-curved plastic shovel or your brother's Pre Calculus book, shave off parts of the square in even strokes until you have a triangle.


Pyramid. At least, that's how I've always made them.

/below nuthin'

 
2003-07-27 07:30:01 PM
2003-07-27 01:13:50 PM cbm5
RadiationDude:
I wonder if you've ever heard of some people called the Israelites.


You're lucky my sis-in-law, the rabid Egyptologist, isn't a Farker. Otherwise you would have just started a flamewar so intense, it would make hellfire and brimstone seem pale by comparison.
 
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