They farked with the wrong Mexican

I think Faux news should be complaining about government money going to colleges and universities and that it should be 100% student tuition funded.

School officials feared an outbreak of "critical thinking"

Get over yerself, numbnuts.

It's a private school. They can invite or uninvite whomever they desire to meet their philosophy or curriculum.

Yeah, because if there is anyone who doesn't know the first thing about the issues surrounding drug trafficking and enforcement, it is the president of Mexico.

locomotivebreath1901: School officials feared an outbreak of "critical thinking"

Get over yerself, numbnuts.

It's a private school. They can invite or uninvite whomever they desire to meet their philosophy or curriculum.

Beat me to it.

miss diminutive: locomotivebreath1901: School officials feared an outbreak of "critical thinking"

Get over yerself, numbnuts.

It's a private school. They can invite or uninvite whomever they desire to meet their philosophy or curriculum.

Of course they can. Doesn't mean we can't make fun of their choices or motives.

I love those people. They show up in threads like this without fail. "They have every right to blah blah blah." Of course they do. Who said they don't? The discussion is revolving around most people thinking they're stupid for doing so, not thinking that they shouldn't be allowed to.

miss diminutive: Of course they can. Doesn't mean we can't make fun of their choices or motives.

Whoops. Previous post was meant as a response to this.

/FAIL

Well, I think it is only right that Mexican citizens continue to be subjected to violence and murder because Americans want to lie to themselves about the fact that this country holds the biggest collection of potheads to ever exist in the history of humankind. Besides, if the War on Drugs suddenly ended, how would our for-profit prisons manage? Where would our arms dealers unload their weapons? Yes, we need to think of the children. We also need to think of the prison industry and gun dealers.

misanthropic1: NannyStatePark: Just the other day my 12 year old, Red Ribbon Week indoctrinated daughter asked me why we call addiction a disease and then put people in jail for it. And I don't run around discussing the War on "Drugs" in front of my kids, because I don't think they are ready to confront that level of cognitive dissonance and its ramifications.

You just can't stop intelligence.

So don't try; if they're smart enough to grasp the disparity, they're smart enough to figure it out pretty shortly. Question is, how badly do you want to retain credibility in thier eyes once they inevitably do figure it out?

That's a hard call and it hugely depends on what I've said to them. My family history is a legacy of drug and alcohol abuse and violence. I base my credibility on what I expose them to and what I say to them. I might allow them to go to school during Red Ribbon Week, but I awnser their real questions situationally and honestly. I grew up during "Just Say NO" with pothead boozing parents, so I was raised that weed was great, and alcohol and white powder was dangerous. I am not sure what to tell my own children with the current climate on those issues, but that advice served me well.

When my daughter brought that issue up, I asked her what she thought. She told me she thought people should be free to live the way they want to.

Wii.Tard: I'd be more afraid of his anti-anti-illegal immigrant Derpgarble

Fear is the mind killer. Keep fear alive.

PlatypusPuke: NannyStatePark: Just the other day my 12 year old, Red Ribbon Week indoctrinated daughter asked me why we call addiction a disease and then put people in jail for it. And I don't run around discussing the War on "Drugs" in front of my kids, because I don't think they are ready to confront that level of cognitive dissonance and its ramifications.

You just can't stop intelligence.

Your 12 year old is smarter than I'll ever be. And I'd bet she's already smarter than most American adults.

/Maybe there IS hope for the future..
//Nah. There are rea$on$ you don't $ee tho$e kinda $mart$ from tho$e in charge.

Thanks, I feel like if I did one thing right it was raising a freedom loving spitfire.

cbackous: misanthropic1: NannyStatePark: Just the other day my 12 year old, Red Ribbon Week indoctrinated daughter asked me why we call addiction a disease and then put people in jail for it. And I don't run around discussing the War on "Drugs" in front of my kids, because I don't think they are ready to confront that level of cognitive dissonance and its ramifications.

You just can't stop intelligence.

So don't try; if they're smart enough to grasp the disparity, they're smart enough to figure it out pretty shortly. Question is, how badly do you want to retain credibility in thier eyes once they inevitably do figure it out?

You mean once they realize that addiction isnt a disease?

Isn't it a beautiful thing considering I actually allowed her to sit through "Red Ribbon Week" for a few years? She was discussing it in terms of her "education".

http://www.orange-papers.org/

namatad: sorry, but fox should have told bush to go fark himself.

he should have legalized and taxed all drugs. period.
would have increased tourism by over 9000%!!!

fark the taxing. I can't support using the tax code to modify behavior.

Taxes should be uniform, simple to calculate, and never used to modify behavior. The government, by definition, is political, and having my personal behavior become the subject of political whims and debate is horrific even if it seems like a 'positive' thing to do.

Point Loma Nazerine is a nutzo christian college. Students aren't allowed to imbibe alcohol or smoke cigs. This wouldn't happen at a real college

InfamousBLT: Should we also legalize suicide, since that clearly only harms the victim?

Not only should actual suicide remain illegal, attempted suicide should be punished with the death penalty. Gotta nip that one in the bud: it could lead to dancing.

InfamousBLT: I think that the problems that MIGHT be solved by letting people down on their luck solve their problems with drugs outweigh the massively negative impact it would have on some people's lives.

Keep drugs illegal, and instead of putting everyone in prison, get them help for their problems.

The data from places that have done similar things disagrees with your hypothesis.

/Science, how does it farking work?

InfamousBLT: Should we also legalize suicide, since that clearly only harms the victim?
Someone considering or on the verge of suicide may actually be doing more harm to others through their actions. They certainly aren't a good role model to have around. Either way, it sucks, but it IS the person's life.


How about drunk driving, since that clearly only harms the victim? Should we legalize anything and everything that clearly "only harms the victim?"

Are you retarded?

I think that the problems that MIGHT be solved by letting people down on their luck solve their problems with drugs outweigh the massively negative impact it would have on some people's lives.

Keep drugs illegal, and instead of putting everyone in prison, get them help for their problems.

/is guessing none of you have ever seen someone do something insanely stupid on drugs
//totally not just hurting themselves
///just call me the human torch...flame on!

Something insanely stupid... like post that comment?


Trolliolio

Young adults who reported a longer duration since first exposure to marijuana had a two- to fourfold greater prevalence of three different psychosis-related outcomes, John McGrath, MD, PhD, of the Queensland Center for Mental Health Research in Wacol, and colleagues concluded in an article published online in Archives of General Psychiatry.

Drugs dealers have been legal for a while.

fusillade762: miss diminutive: olddinosaur: There's probably a million parasites making money off this thing; you think thowe bastards would ever actually work?

Well if 'drug dealer' were considered decent previous job experience more people might put it on their resumes once it becomes legal.

Maybe rename it to something like 'chemical enhancement professional' or 'addiction occurrence specialist'. The more legitimate sounding, the better.

"Recreational Pharmacology Expert" has a nice ring to it.

I like "Inebriation Facilitator"

meatpigeon: Point Loma Nazerine is a nutzo christian college. Students aren't allowed to imbibe alcohol or smoke cigs. This wouldn't happen at a real college

So, let me make sure I have this in context. The college trustees presumed that Mr Fox would show up, talk about how much his countrymen appreciated the opportunity to come to America to mow lawns, pick lettuce and send money back to their families in Old Mehico.

Then they started reading his English-language blog and discovered a serious man facing up to outrageous fortune with options that didn't fit neatly into their world of lily white Protestantism.

So they fired him. Figures.

olddinosaur: It will never happen.

In order for the people to submit to government authority, they must be provided with a menace: a monster, boogieman, hobgoblin, et cetera. The threat must be credible, the enemy must be strong.

That's what we have the Unions for.

If drugs are legal, all you would see would be empty shells of humans, lining up every day for their ration, much like the vagrants which already infest every American city.


Has that ever stopped the Tea Party before?

But the production cost of drugs is only pennies a dose, so you couldn't make any money off it. People would still b*tch but they wouldn't be scared.

There's probably a million parasites making money off this thing; you think thowe bastards would ever actually work?

Hell, water is even cheaper to produce, if Poland and that Dasani guy can make money off it, they should be able to do it with a bunch of weeds.

InfamousBLT: Should we also legalize suicide, since that clearly only harms the victim? How about drunk driving, since that clearly only harms the victim? Should we legalize anything and everything that clearly "only harms the victim?"
I think that the problems that MIGHT be solved by letting people down on their luck solve their problems with drugs outweigh the massively negative impact it would have on some people's lives.

Keep drugs illegal, and instead of putting everyone in prison, get them help for their problems.

/is guessing none of you have ever seen someone do something insanely stupid on drugs
//totally not just hurting themselves
///just call me the human torch...flame on!

Suicide hurts the person doing it, but let's keep punishing them for failing. So far as hurting others, yeah it's a tragedy that family and friends are saddened, but other things in life do that too. And drunk driving hardly harms only the driver, it at least threatens others, especially when you consider that cars kill more people in the US than guns do.

The problem with drugs is not whether they are good or bad for you. The problem is that Drug gangs shooting people down in the streets is worse.

Yeah, someone overdosing on drugs is sad, or wasting their life away watching Love Boat re-runs and living on a Cheetos and Pepsi diet is sad. Maybe even a tragedy akin to a drunk killing themselves with alcohol. But that is a small tragedy, limited to the poor bastard killing them-self and their friends and family.

What is not a small tragedy is the death toll of the drug war.

Not just the Human toll, but the death of our freedoms and liberties. the War on (some) Drugs has been used as an excuse to curtail First Amendment rights, Second Amendment rights, Fourth Amendment rights, Fifth Amendment rights, and in the Raiche case was used to pound the final nail into the coffin of the Tenth Amendment by expanding to Commerce Clause to mean pretty much whatever the hell Washington D.C. wants it to mean.

The War on Drugs was and remains the single most evil thing this country has imposed on it's citizens since the technical end of Jim Crow.

shut. down. everything

Critical thinking?! *gasp* anything but that!

Blues_X: "We should consider legalizing the production, distribution and sale of drugs," he wrote on his blog in August. "Radical prohibition strategies have never worked. Legalizing in this sense does not mean drugs are good and don't harm those who consume them. Rather we should look at it as a strategy to strike at and break the economic structure that allows gangs to generate huge profits in their trade, which feeds corruption and increases their areas of power."


Hmmmm.... try this, or continue wasting money on locking up citizens?

Heck, based on that quote, I'm *voting for Fox in 2012.*

Enigmamf: It's a private Christian college. Is anyone surprised?

Oh. Well that explains it, then. Nothing to see here, people, move along. Just standard Christian herp-a-derp in action.

Also:

make something illegal and you have created a crime

all you need now is a DEA to waste billions of taxpayer dollars
fighting said "crime"


president of mexico smarter than professor dumbass at BSU

internet_Xpert: Is there any generation up to the task of legalizing drugs? If the boomers can't do it, who can?

Shirley you can't be serious. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the leaded gasoline, but that group, where to start? Far as I can tell that group never learned to be adults in the tradition sense.

Britney Spear's Speculum: Wii.Tard: I'd be more afraid of his anti-anti-illegal immigrant Derpgarble

His administration's economic plan was simple, just like the GOP's health care plan. Instead of "don't get sick" it was "Go to America"

I'm pretty sure Mexicans are already in "America".

What would her have said to such an audience, anyway? `Thanks for continuing to support your subsidizing the deaths of Mexican citizens in order to annoint yourselves with their blood as a mark of righteousness; self-flagellation achieved by extracting taxes to provide sustenance to your crusade in the down-times between your Great Awakenings?'

Vaults of Erowid really needs to include two new sections:

Sex Hormones (exposed to involuntarily as a matter of course; testosterone/estrogen/oxytocin)

Religious texts (resulting consensual realities that create `trainwrecks').

miss diminutive: olddinosaur: There's probably a million parasites making money off this thing; you think thowe bastards would ever actually work?

Well if 'drug dealer' were considered decent previous job experience more people might put it on their resumes once it becomes legal.

Maybe rename it to something like 'chemical enhancement professional' or 'addiction occurrence specialist'. The more legitimate sounding, the better.

Negatory. "Self-employed logistics and distribution entrepreneur, with over 200 satisfied repeat clients."

NannyStatePark: misanthropic1: NannyStatePark: Just the other day my 12 year old, Red Ribbon Week indoctrinated daughter asked me why we call addiction a disease and then put people in jail for it. And I don't run around discussing the War on "Drugs" in front of my kids, because I don't think they are ready to confront that level of cognitive dissonance and its ramifications.

You just can't stop intelligence.

So don't try; if they're smart enough to grasp the disparity, they're smart enough to figure it out pretty shortly. Question is, how badly do you want to retain credibility in thier eyes once they inevitably do figure it out?

That's a hard call and it hugely depends on what I've said to them. My family history is a legacy of drug and alcohol abuse and violence. I base my credibility on what I expose them to and what I say to them. I might allow them to go to school during Red Ribbon Week, but I awnser their real questions situationally and honestly. I grew up during "Just Say NO" with pothead boozing parents, so I was raised that weed was great, and alcohol and white powder was dangerous. I am not sure what to tell my own children with the current climate on those issues, but that advice served me well.

When my daughter brought that issue up, I asked her what she thought. She told me she thought people should be free to live the way they want to.

The law would make perfect sense as "Try anything, and have someone else drive." Do anything stupid or illegal on any drug, and the consequences are all the same, but not simply for enjoying life - you may as well throw people in jail for getting a high killing Nazis in Call of Duty.

Then again, perhaps all civilizations are doomed to wither and die once they can no longer grow with virtual slave labor and fear. Certainly seems to have been the fate of most warrior-cum-scholar nations in history. :\

Long and borderline excessive golf claps for subby's headline!!!

/Oh yeah, GROW UP AMERICA!
//Legalize, Decriminalize, either one, just stop wasting our money!