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2011-02-27 12:01:25 PM
Arizona's constitution says legislators are immune from arrest "in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace" and allows them immunity from civil process while the legislator is in session.

WTF??
 
2011-02-27 12:03:13 PM

what_now: Arizona's constitution says legislators are immune from arrest "in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace" and allows them immunity from civil process while the legislator is in session.

WTF??


Many (most?) state Constitutions say the same thing.
 
2011-02-27 12:12:10 PM

ne2d: Many (most?) state Constitutions say the same thing.

they do

But in most States A Domestic is considered a "Breach of the peace," I Arizona it is just Friday Night.
 
2011-02-27 12:14:30 PM
He waived his immunity in the incident, retardmitter.
 
2011-02-27 12:20:17 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: He waived his immunity in the incident, retardmitter.


My guess is that he can't actually do that until he's been charged or in front of a judge or anything.

I am curious about how much of the article anyone in here read?

Also if you saw the prior thread on this. The Arizona immunity thing is in just about every state's constitution and is one reason why Wisconsin's representatives cannot be arrested.

But what part of she's assaulting him (gave him a black eye) in his car as he drives do you think means he should be arrested?
 
2011-02-27 12:41:40 PM

RoyBatty: FlyingLizardOfDoom: He waived his immunity in the incident, retardmitter.

My guess is that he can't actually do that until he's been charged or in front of a judge or anything.

I am curious about how much of the article anyone in here read?

Also if you saw the prior thread on this. The Arizona immunity thing is in just about every state's constitution and is one reason why Wisconsin's representatives cannot be arrested.

But what part of she's assaulting him (gave him a black eye) in his car as he drives do you think means he should be arrested?


The part where if it was me the cops found trying to drag my girlfriend out of a car when responding to a domestic violence call, they would have arrested me regardless of whether or not i had a scratch on my face.
 
2011-02-27 12:48:40 PM

propasaurus: RoyBatty: FlyingLizardOfDoom: He waived his immunity in the incident, retardmitter.

My guess is that he can't actually do that until he's been charged or in front of a judge or anything.

I am curious about how much of the article anyone in here read?

Also if you saw the prior thread on this. The Arizona immunity thing is in just about every state's constitution and is one reason why Wisconsin's representatives cannot be arrested.

But what part of she's assaulting him (gave him a black eye) in his car as he drives do you think means he should be arrested?

The part where if it was me the cops found trying to drag my girlfriend out of a car when responding to a domestic violence call, they would have arrested me regardless of whether or not i had a scratch on my face.


So because the cops would stupidly and wrongly arrest you, they should arrest this guy too?

Okay, I can see that. Maybe if they did that, this asshole legislator would work on changing the stupid dv laws.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-02-27 01:22:03 PM
Cops can charge him. They can't arrest him. In my state, and I think most states, a summons to court instead of arrest is a very common way to handle a misdemeanor.
 
2011-02-27 01:38:41 PM
Clearly we should exercise our second amendment solution.
 
2011-02-27 01:44:39 PM
prevarication.net

Legislative Immunityyyy!
 
2011-02-27 01:56:55 PM
Bundgaard, a Republican and the state senate majority leader, said the dispute began on the way home from a charity "Dancing with the Stars" fundraiser, after Ballard accused him of "inappropriately touching" his dance partner.

Huh. Arizona. "Dancing with the Stars".

Bristol, do you know anything about this?
 
2011-02-27 03:47:15 PM
You know, in this situation a little police brutality would be understandable.
 
2011-02-27 04:24:14 PM

Dallymo: Bundgaard, a Republican and the state senate majority leader, said the dispute began on the way home from a charity "Dancing with the Stars" fundraiser, after Ballard accused him of "inappropriately touching" his dance partner.

Huh. Arizona. "Dancing with the Stars".

Bristol, do you know anything about this?


Tom Delay,Christine O'Donnell....
 
2011-02-27 04:30:54 PM
He waived his immunity, either charge him or let it go.
 
2011-02-27 04:31:20 PM
From TFA: "Bundgaard, a Republican and the state senate's majority leader"

Well, Of COURSE he is! Can't have someone who ISN'T going to punch around his girlfriend on the side of the highway in charge, can we?!
 
2011-02-27 04:31:20 PM
He's not just a state senator, he's also the majority leader. This will kill any chance of him getting promoted to real Senator.
 
2011-02-27 04:33:08 PM
It's like Leathal Weapon 2.
 
2011-02-27 04:34:41 PM

captainktainer: He's not just a state senator, he's also the majority leader. This will kill any chance of him getting promoted to real Senator.


Maybe. On one hand, it shows that he's a pussy that got beaten up by a woman. On the other hand, it shows that he's willing to do what it takes to keep the biatch in line.

Could go either way with these type of folk.
 
2011-02-27 04:34:46 PM

captainktainer: He's not just a state senator, he's also the majority leader. This will kill any chance of him getting promoted to real Senator.


blog.cleveland.com

But I think you may underestimate Arizona.
 
2011-02-27 04:36:06 PM

Infernalist: He waived his immunity, either charge him or let it go.


FlyingLizardOfDoom: He waived his immunity in the incident, retardmitter.


So you two know that all is required to waive immunity is to tell a reporter you are waiving immunity.

Sure you do.
 
2011-02-27 04:37:06 PM
I thank God I don't live in Arizona every day and twice on Sunday.
 
2011-02-27 04:42:19 PM
FTFA: "We want to jointly apologize for allowing a private matter to interrupt the public -- and especially for taking up the valuable time of law enforcement. The police officers who responded deserve thanks for their sensitivity and compassion," they said.

Translation: She was kicking his ass and the dude appreciates the cops' compassion.
 
2011-02-27 04:45:46 PM
I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?

AZ is officially too farked up to exist. Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
 
2011-02-27 04:52:12 PM
Sounds like someone just signed on for a karmic payback...

I hope his Beatdown from the Cosmos is long and intimate.
 
2011-02-27 04:56:57 PM

eggrolls: I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?


That would be a felony and they are not immune from arrest for felonies.
 
2011-02-27 04:57:34 PM
FTFA: Arizona's constitution says legislators are immune from arrest "in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace" and allows them immunity from civil process while the legislator is in session. Phoenix police said they will submit the case to the city attorney's office for review, Thompson said. In his statement, Bundgaard said he will not hide behind his privilege. "I waive any and all 'immunity.' If I did something wrong, charge me," he said.

Wow. Trolltastic headline, Submitter. The only real question is how AZ defines "breach of the peace."
 
2011-02-27 04:59:09 PM
News: Arizona Senator claims 'legislative immunity" when arrested for domestic violence. Not News: Cops can't charge him like they would any other member of the community because elected officials are apparently above the law. Fark: So they arrest his girlfriend and take her to jail.
 
2011-02-27 05:02:53 PM

eggrolls: I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?


Both acts would likely be treated as felonious by responding officers, therefore excluded from the arrest exemption.
 
2011-02-27 05:03:07 PM

eggrolls: I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?

AZ is officially too farked up to exist. Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.


Arizona's constitution says legislators are immune from arrest "in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace" and allows them immunity from civil process while the legislator is in session.

What part of that don't you understand? If it is a felony he will be arrested and put on trial after the session is over. And dude you need to go back to 8th grade civics class because there you learn that this applies for all state legislators and federal ones also.

There is enough crap to be outraged about without this manufactured outrage. To be truthful the real story here is that his girlfriend got drunk, jealous and started beating his ass.
 
2011-02-27 05:03:42 PM
Alien, I need to learn to refresh before posting.
 
2011-02-27 05:06:44 PM
Given the girlfriend's comments, I don't think she's ready to give up the position of Majority Leader's Punching Bag just yet.

Or, she's preparing for a very large payday from the Senator.
 
2011-02-27 05:07:32 PM

Shrew2u: eggrolls: I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?

Both acts would likely be treated as felonious by responding officers, therefore excluded from the arrest exemption.


Whoops. Misread the statute. Although given that the incident in question could have been written up a felony assault, I suspect dog burning and wife shooting would be pled down to misdemeanor animal cruelty and a unregistered firearm charge.
 
2011-02-27 05:11:30 PM

SilentStrider: You know, in this situation a little police brutality would be understandable.


...because women are never the initiator of physical aggression.
 
2011-02-27 05:11:54 PM
That's how we roll here in AZ.
 
2011-02-27 05:15:01 PM

eggrolls: I can arrest the President for jaywalking, but I can't touch this schmuck if he shoots my wife and sets my dog on fire, as long as the legislature's in session?

AZ is officially too farked up to exist. Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.


Massachusetts' immunity is more limited in duration but much more sweeping in scope of crimes covered. Specifically, "And no member of the house of representatives shall be arrested, or held to bail on mesne process, during his going unto, returning from, or his attending the general assembly."

Your state representative could go all Grand Theft Auto on the Mass Pike and no one could arrest him as long as he's on his way to the legislature.
 
2011-02-27 05:22:25 PM
Two sets of law in amurika. One for him and one for the rest of you dimwitted losers.
 
2011-02-27 05:27:00 PM

ne2d: what_now: Arizona's constitution says legislators are immune from arrest "in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace" and allows them immunity from civil process while the legislator is in session.

WTF??

Many (most?) state Constitutions say the same thing.


Mental Note: Run for State Senate
 
2011-02-27 05:28:50 PM
Was the senator tired and emotional?
 
2011-02-27 05:29:27 PM
REPUBLICANS STAND FOR FAMILY VALUES.
 
2011-02-27 05:31:42 PM

aearra: Two sets of law in amurika. One for him and one for the rest of you dimwitted losers.


So we should defintitely vote Republican. Christ, party of family values my ass.
 
2011-02-27 05:34:45 PM
Anyone ever notice how when a politician is caught up in a domestic violence dispute, they are always a Republican?
 
2011-02-27 05:36:03 PM

Gotfire: REPUBLICANS STAND FOR FAMILY VALUES.


AND CONSERVATIVES ARE COMPASSIONATE.

/There. Now we're both liars.
 
2011-02-27 05:38:26 PM

moops: Anyone ever notice how when a politician is caught up in a domestic violence dispute, they are always a Republican?


Lots and lots of self-hate. Really stands out with our Fark trolls.
 
2011-02-27 05:45:49 PM
"The senator said he tried to stop his girlfriend from punching him, which resulted in marks on her knees."

i.e., he shoved her on the ground. he should be charged as well.
 
2011-02-27 05:46:31 PM
Once again proving that no good can come from Dancing with the Stars.
 
2011-02-27 05:47:17 PM

moops: i.e., he shoved her on the ground. he should be charged as well.


We charge for self-defense now? Sounds like she was hitting him, he pushed her away, and she fell down. Nothing to prosecute him for in that.
 
2011-02-27 05:49:07 PM

doyner: SilentStrider: You know, in this situation a little police brutality would be understandable.

...because women are never the initiator of physical aggression.


Unless your girlfriend is taller than you, weighs more than you, is trained to rip your head off and has a proven track record of curb-stomping you in the ring, guess what?

You're always the initiator of violence.

If you can't handle that, stick to masturbation.
 
2011-02-27 05:50:47 PM
Just another golddigga,
returned to the toilet.
 
2011-02-27 06:02:14 PM
Still waiting for that Arizona tag.
 
2011-02-27 06:02:20 PM
Hey, retardmitter:

1) "claimes" is not a word. Idiot.

2) He waived his immunity. Idiot.
 
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