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2011-02-26 09:14:56 PM
Mr. Han told investigators he was the only bread winner in his family
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2011-02-26 09:43:22 PM
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"...the fact is you've been making us all look bad. If we let you carry on running around town, you'll continue to be exceptional... and we can't have that. You'll put us all out of a job."
 
2011-02-27 01:09:04 AM
At one point I had two jobs, both for the public. So it added to more than 100%, and they made me quit one.

I quit the lower-paying one, of course, but... I was doing the work for both. No family here, it was just for extra $$$.
 
2011-02-27 03:04:41 AM
No. The idiot was fired for doing work for OTHER businesses (yes, they were his own) while on the clock for his primary employer. It's called inappropriate use of company resources. It happens in the US too.
 
2011-02-27 04:29:51 AM

miltonbabbitt: "...the fact is you've been making us all look bad. If we let you carry on running around town, you'll continue to be exceptional... and we can't have that. You'll put us all out of a job."


"With respect, Sir, you can't just make people disappear."
 
2011-02-27 04:32:09 AM
www.cafalawblog.com

R.I.P. Mr. Han
 
2011-02-27 04:35:25 AM

SpaceyCat: No. The idiot was fired for doing work for OTHER businesses (yes, they were his own) while on the clock for his primary employer. It's called inappropriate use of company resources. It happens in the US too.


Thanks, your concise explanation of things helped me find a picture of subby:
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2011-02-27 04:35:31 AM
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/does not approve of this.
 
2011-02-27 04:43:04 AM
oh he was doing tons of work, he just wasn't doing his job...
 
2011-02-27 04:46:59 AM
Yeah, this isn't "Stupid" so much as "Entirely deserved."
 
2011-02-27 04:47:04 AM

SpaceyCat: No. The idiot was fired for doing work for OTHER businesses (yes, they were his own) while on the clock for his primary employer. It's called inappropriate use of company resources. It happens in the US too.


Playinodds: oh he was doing tons of work, he just wasn't doing his job...


...And that pretty much sums it up. I think subby may have tagged himself.
 
2011-02-27 04:51:03 AM
And just in case someone thought subby got something right - Railcorp is a government owned enterprise so yes he was a government worker.
 
2011-02-27 04:54:04 AM
It is difficult to express just how bad RailCorp already (Sydney trains are terrible) is without them paying some guy to run his own businesses on their time and on their dime and not sufficiently doing his primary job. With all those incomes combined, he'd be putting away quite a tidy sum. GTFO.
 
2011-02-27 04:58:25 AM
Han fired first!
 
2011-02-27 04:58:44 AM
Stupid tag was for the submitter, right?
 
2011-02-27 05:02:01 AM
Getting fired or laid off for being too good at your job and doing too much work is not so uncommon. It's happened to me twice.

I realize this was not the case in the article but I thought it matched the thread title.
 
2011-02-27 05:11:21 AM
Dude should have been taken to court and sued for theft of company resources.
 
2011-02-27 05:18:08 AM
Leave it to fark to be full of people who don't understand TFA.

The guy did his work, to complete satisfaction, at his other job. He also did other work on the side. This guy was doing triple the work any of you farkers do on a given day, and was doing the best work of all.

Needless to say, the cries of "he is a thief" would be loud here.
 
2011-02-27 05:21:50 AM
I'm guessing a disgruntled co-worker ratted him out. Probably wasn't pulling his weight.

Friend of mine ran a Tech Support department, and one of her reps had a side job doing online traffic court for people. He'd be on the phone with a customer and have three or four browser tabs open to various traffic school sessions. She was cool with it, since he still handled as many support tickets as any of the other reps.
 
2011-02-27 05:23:03 AM

Biner: I'm guessing a disgruntled co-worker ratted him out. Probably wasn't pulling his weight.

Friend of mine ran a Tech Support department, and one of her reps had a side job doing online traffic school for people. He'd be on the phone with a customer and have three or four browser tabs open to various traffic school sessions. She was cool with it, since he still handled as many support tickets as any of the other reps.


FTFM
 
2011-02-27 05:29:59 AM
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2011-02-27 05:30:34 AM

Epiphany: Leave it to fark to be full of people who don't understand TFA.

The guy did his work, to complete satisfaction, at his other job. He also did other work on the side. This guy was doing triple the work any of you farkers do on a given day, and was doing the best work of all.


FTFA: The tribunal heard that Mr Han was counselled by RailCorp for similar behaviour, which was interfering with his work in 2005.

Understanding is hard!
 
2011-02-27 05:47:12 AM

No Catchy Nickname: Han fired first!


Well played.
 
2011-02-27 05:51:45 AM
The tribunal heard evidence that while Mr Han was "not derelict" in his duties to RailCorp but he was "more frequently engaged in his personal documents" than work-related activity.

In dismissing the appeal Mr Connor said Mr Han displayed initiative but the evidence presented that his initiative seemed to be directed at his personal interests rather than his work with RailCorp.


Because God fobid that you actually accomplish something with your life that doesn't have to do with the corporation you work for.

They don't own him. He's not a slave. He did his work for them, did it well and had some work on the side. It shouldn't be a crime and they should let him be.
 
2011-02-27 05:52:19 AM
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Happy trails, Han!

Epiphany: Leave it to fark to be full of people who don't understand TFA.

The guy did his work, to complete satisfaction, at his other job. He also did other work on the side. This guy was doing triple the work any of you farkers do on a given day, and was doing the best work of all.

Needless to say, the cries of "he is a thief" would be loud here.


Mr Han, stop posting from work.

/posting from work
 
2011-02-27 05:55:06 AM
Epiphany: Leave it to fark to be full of people who don't understand TFA.

The guy did his work, to complete satisfaction, at his other job. He also did other work on the side. This guy was doing triple the work any of you farkers do on a given day, and was doing the best work of all.

Needless to say, the cries of "he is a thief" would be loud here.


According to the article the best they could say about his performance was that he was "not derelict." Hardly the ringing endorsement of "to complete satisfaction." The guy did the bare minimum to avoid reprimand all the while dicking around with private shiat.
 
2011-02-27 06:08:34 AM

Hermione_Granger: The tribunal heard evidence that while Mr Han was "not derelict" in his duties to RailCorp but he was "more frequently engaged in his personal documents" than work-related activity.

In dismissing the appeal Mr Connor said Mr Han displayed initiative but the evidence presented that his initiative seemed to be directed at his personal interests rather than his work with RailCorp.

Because God fobid that you actually accomplish something with your life that doesn't have to do with the corporation you work for.

They don't own him. He's not a slave. He did his work for them, did it well and had some work on the side. It shouldn't be a crime and they should let him be.


You best learn your place in Corporate Republican America mister. All for the boss and the boss for himself.
 
2011-02-27 06:20:56 AM

hitlersbrain: You best learn your place in Corporate Republican America mister. All for the boss and the boss for himself.


I know somebody who DRTFA! Guess who?
 
2011-02-27 06:30:02 AM

Wrong_Intentions: hitlersbrain: You best learn your place in Corporate Republican America mister. All for the boss and the boss for himself.

I know somebody who DRTFA! Guess who?


Albert Schweitzer?
 
2011-02-27 06:38:57 AM
Gamin' da system, just gamin' da system

/Ping Pong
//Chong Chang. ChopChop
 
2011-02-27 06:44:03 AM
Oddly enough, he wasn't a government worker

Um, yes he was.

From Wiki: Rail Corporation New South Wales (RailCorp) is a statutory authority of the New South Wales government.
 
2011-02-27 07:07:00 AM
He was a clerk who didn't understand the form about declaring other employment? And now that he's down to four jobs and managing his rental properties, it will be a hardship on his family? Shenanigans.
 
2011-02-27 07:44:12 AM
Foolkiller 2011-02-27 07:07:00 AM
He was a clerk who didn't understand the form about declaring other employment? And now that he's down to four jobs and managing his rental properties, it will be a hardship on his family? Shenanigans.


BINGO! Give that man a kewpie doll! Uh, wasn't it like by the time we are in the 2nd grade that if we don't understand a question on a required questionnaire/form, we raise our hand and say "Mr/Ms (add name) I don't understand...". Come on! Rental properties and other businesses. That sort of stuff requires all sorts of form work and government reporting.

Moral of the story: If you are a government worker and want to do the bare acceptable minimum, get a Fark account and monitor threads!

Which kind of raises question: Was the job really needed that the required time to do the bare minimum was so low, that FOUR businesses could be run too????????
 
2011-02-27 08:09:22 AM

SpaceyCat: No. The idiot was fired for doing work for OTHER businesses (yes, they were his own) while on the clock for his primary employer. It's called inappropriate use of company resources. It happens in the US too.


Thread over.
 
2011-02-27 08:21:02 AM

CarrieWhite: It is difficult to express just how bad RailCorp already (Sydney trains are terrible) is without them paying some guy to run his own businesses on their time and on their dime and not sufficiently doing his primary job. With all those incomes combined, he'd be putting away quite a tidy sum. GTFO.


nah - we have Amtrak over here. Don't worry, we get it.

In it's 40 years of miserable existence it has never turned a profit, operates at billion-dollar losses, receives more than 500 million dollar annual subsidies, is almost entirely owned by the government, and accounts for less than one tenth of a percent of American travel. It has received bailout after bailout, yet still fails to perform. It is a second-rate service that only continues to exist because of congress and the government's control of the railways.

This guy is an idiot. Didn't understand the forms? Yeah right. I hope his businesses all fail and a dingo eats his baby
 
2011-02-27 08:21:37 AM
doh - its not it's
/dumb
 
2011-02-27 08:24:43 AM

Foolkiller: He was a clerk who didn't understand the form about declaring other employment? And now that he's down to four jobs and managing his rental properties, it will be a hardship on his family? Shenanigans.


Clearly he is self-entitled prat of a man.

And now that he will have to pay for his own internet/computer/office space etc. it sounds like he will now being doing his work from home. So i'd say the hardship will in fact be severe since he's going to be around ALL the time now...
 
2011-02-27 08:35:31 AM

Epiphany: The guy did his work, to complete satisfaction, at his other job.


The US federal government would fire the guy, or at least threaten to, over this. Some of the old school types don't care if you get any work done (witness the slackers who don't get fired) but they do care if your butt is not in the chair or it looks like you're not working.

One supervisor I had told us we could not read at our desks, not even at lunch because it looked like we were wasting time. This agency also forces us to fly into cheaper cities and then drive for hours right past closer airports to save money. Apparently our time and taxpayer money are not wasted when you have a half dozen people driving around in traffic all afternoon.
 
2011-02-27 08:42:30 AM

Mock26: Dude should have been taken to court and sued for theft of company resources.


I agree that subby got it all wrong, but isn't this a little harsh?

/Mock. 26. Ing. 26. Bird. 26. . .
 
2011-02-27 08:48:28 AM
I like the fact that he was running a translation business, yet claimed in court not to understand a form.
 
2011-02-27 08:54:15 AM
nwso.net

Go be bootstrappy someplace else.
 
2011-02-27 08:56:46 AM

Pathman: CarrieWhite: It is difficult to express just how bad RailCorp already (Sydney trains are terrible) is without them paying some guy to run his own businesses on their time and on their dime and not sufficiently doing his primary job. With all those incomes combined, he'd be putting away quite a tidy sum. GTFO.

nah - we have Amtrak over here. Don't worry, we get it.

In it's 40 years of miserable existence it has never turned a profit, operates at billion-dollar losses, receives more than 500 million dollar annual subsidies, is almost entirely owned by the government, and accounts for less than one tenth of a percent of American travel. It has received bailout after bailout, yet still fails to perform. It is a second-rate service that only continues to exist because of congress and the government's control of the railways.

This guy is an idiot. Didn't understand the forms? Yeah right. I hope his businesses all fail and a dingo eats his baby


Harsh but fair.
 
2011-02-27 09:05:34 AM

Pathman:
nah - we have Amtrak over here. Don't worry, we get it.

In it's 40 years of miserable existence it has never turned a profit, operates at billion-dollar losses, receives more than 500 million dollar annual subsidies, is almost entirely owned by the government, and accounts for less than one tenth of a percent of American travel. It has received bailout after bailout, yet still fails to perform. It is a second-rate service that only continues to exist because of congress and the government's control of the railways.


Yeah, I mean, I can't wait until the highway system turns a profit, any day now. Amitrite?

All those bailouts for the Interstate, year after year. You must be SUPER pissed about that.
 
2011-02-27 09:07:01 AM
If 'the bare minimum to avoid reprimand' gets you reprimanded then it's not the bare minimum, you idiot feces-for-brain losers.
 
2011-02-27 09:10:40 AM

wsommerv:

Yeah, I mean, I can't wait until the highway system turns a profit, any day now. AmitriteAmirite?

All those bailouts for the Interstate, year after year. You must be SUPER pissed about that.


FTFM. God I suck at snark.
 
2011-02-27 09:11:01 AM
Headline FAIL!

It's called moonlighting, not working too hard at your job.

I on the other hand have been fired for working too hard. I would out perform entire divisions by myself (programmer) and I didn't like working with other because they are morons. Eventually they stopped giving me assignments and then laid me off because "there wasn't enough work" for my position to be viable.
 
2011-02-27 09:12:51 AM

wsommerv: Pathman:
nah - we have Amtrak over here. Don't worry, we get it.

In it's 40 years of miserable existence it has never turned a profit, operates at billion-dollar losses, receives more than 500 million dollar annual subsidies, is almost entirely owned by the government, and accounts for less than one tenth of a percent of American travel. It has received bailout after bailout, yet still fails to perform. It is a second-rate service that only continues to exist because of congress and the government's control of the railways.


Yeah, I mean, I can't wait until the highway system turns a profit, any day now. Amitrite?

All those bailouts for the Interstate, year after year. You must be SUPER pissed about that.


are you being serious?
 
2011-02-27 09:19:46 AM

wsommerv: wsommerv:

Yeah, I mean, I can't wait until the highway system turns a profit, any day now. AmitriteAmirite?

All those bailouts for the Interstate, year after year. You must be SUPER pissed about that.

FTFM. God I suck at snark.


i don't get it. you sound young
 
pla
2011-02-27 09:21:30 AM
SpaceyCat : No. The idiot was fired for doing work for OTHER businesses (yes, they were his own) while on the clock for his primary employer. It's called inappropriate use of company resources. It happens in the US too.

That depends on a good number of requirements of his "real" job...

First of all, and the key factor at least in the US - Salaried or hourly? If salaried, the rest amounts to a technicality for not using the right TPS report cover sheets. They might have let him go for my second point, but the DOL specifically doesn't allow employers to penalize salaried employees solely for hours spent working (the flip side of getting to not pay people for working massive OT).

Second, how much work did his job actually involve? If he managed to perform his required duties to the satisfaction of his boss, does it really matter whether he "wasted company resources" by earning a second income, or by playing Solitaire 7.5 hours a day?

Third, the use of company resources may actually matter, depending on the nature of the resource. If a consumable resource (the copier), then yeah, not so kosher; If an essentially unlimited resource, courts have gone both ways on issues like using the phone for personal matters - The key factor being access; You can have almost no access to a phone at work, and the courts have no problem with that. If you have a phone sitting idle at "your" desk 8 hours a day, then the courts have taken a dim view of firings for people actually using that phone, even for purely personal reasons.

Not to defend this guy, I've worked with someone very similar to what this guy sounds like, and yeah, real PITA that everyone knows about but nothing ever seems to happen to them. But I can also see it as possible to squeeze several full-time fluffy jobs into a one physical work day (simple example - I work as a programmer, and have automated quite a few other peoples' "full-time" tasks down to a once-a-week 15 minute batch; If I worked in one of their jobs, that would leave me with 39:45 a week free, while still doing "my" job perfectly well).
 
2011-02-27 09:25:21 AM

No Catchy Nickname: Han fired first!


well done.
 
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