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Fark Redesign Comps -- prepare to get over it 
Posted by Drew at 2011-02-24 1:25:13 PM, edited 2011-02-24 2:00:53 PM (999 comments) | Permalink

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Introduction

tl;dr - You'll get over it

Longer Introduction

In preparation for this blog entry, I've scoured the tubes for introductions to new redesigns to build the ultimate horrifying corporatespeak version of "no seriously you'll really like this redesign it's for your own good post." So here goes:

We know what you really want. It's not what you think you want, but we do know better than you do. We're experts. At least one of us even has a degree from a college.

As it turns out, this involves taking what you've known and loved for years, deleting it entirely, and replacing it with something completely different. Once we've done that, we'll continue to insist for weeks that this completely new website that we've just slapped our name on is the same as the old thing that doesn't exist anymore. Did I mention we deleted the code completely? We couldn't go back if we wanted to. Besides, Kevin Rose wouldn't refund the money we paid for the old Digg source code at this point, he's already spent it on $1000-an-ounce teas.

We merged the open source Reddit code with the old codebase we bought from Digg and we're calling it New Fark 4.1 (don't ask what happened to 4.0, it involved a Russian botnet and a well known poker website). We are basing our layouts on the new Gawker redesign, in that we made it so awesome, you'll pretend to hate it just to look cool. Also, we're all taking a month-long vacation the day after New Fark 4.1 launches, so if anything's broken (ha ha what are the odds) don't worry, we'll be back to fix it in 30 days.

Please be sure to twat/facepost/youspace this blog entry to all your friends and followers.

I have nothing more to add, I didn't do squat for coding on this redesign other than drink beer and hurl abuse at the Fark team for not moving faster. So I'm going to hand the descriptions over to Fark's resident design guy and couch-lifter for my wife when he's at my house, Joe Peacock (PattonX). See how stiff his writing style is? He's scared to death you won't like it. Personally, I think he should just man up and beat you guys over the head with this redesign. He's an expert, after all (but he's not one of the ones who went to a college for that degree).

If anyone needs me I'll be on the twitters screaming at Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to give credit to friends of mine for things that I have no stake in.


Okay, so, the redesign, by PattonX

Umm... Thanks, Drew, for that very interesting intro. That degree from a college is serving you well.

So, as Drew said, we wanted to give you guys a heads-up on an upcoming redesign of Fark, and get your feedback. We feel this new look and feel is a much-needed refresh on the overall aesthetic of Fark, without drastically changing how Fark works. It's a fresh coat of paint, if you will, and we think it improves on just about every aspect of the Fark design.

Here's the page as it looks in whole:



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The very first thing you'll notice: it's cleaner. More space between elements, but not too much. One column on the right instead of two. Much more readable. Let's look closer at each of the individual sections.

The right side:


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This is perhaps the most drastic overhaul. The right side toolbars are drastically cleaner and easier to use. Gone are the seven micro-type menus of various sorts. We've stripped down the right side to focus on the important stuff -- using Fark. We've also dumped the incredibly long tower ad unit in favor of a more manageable 300x250 ad unit. The end result -- it just makes more sense.

The header:


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The header in general is the same as it has always been -- all of the menu items and structure you're used to are here. It's just much, much cleaner and easier to use.

Have you ever shown Fark to someone and had them ask "Okay, so what is this?" We've made it much easier to show them. There's now a link for new users to find out all about Fark, without having to figure out the FAQ section (a walkthrough, if you will) -- making it much easier to explain Fark. And that bit about "real news made readable" won't always be there. We're going to stuff that section full of random but related statements about what Fark is. If you have suggestions, email Drew.

The menubar:


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Skittle-tabs (rainbow colors) are gone. We've gone to a much cleaner and simpler page system which simply demarks where you are, without tabs and rainbow headers. You'll notice that the "music" tab is now wrapped into the Entertainment tab (previously called Showbiz). We've done this to streamline all the entertainment news, as music news has mostly become Entertainment news. We're moving music videos into the video tab.

Message center:


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You'll also notice that your login now has a little envelope icon with a number -- this is your message center. When you click on the icon, the page will refresh to show you all system notifications, as well as all of the threads in which you have been replied to or mentioned since you last visited your message center.

The links:

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The important part. The same link list view is back, but spaced out more for readability, and with much clearer column headers. But you'll notice a few new options for sorting your links.

Now, you can sort chronologically, as Fark is already sorted, or re-sort the list by popularity (clicks) or by comment count.


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You can also show the last day, two days or 7 days worth of links from the bottom of the headline list.


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One note: it's not represented here, but the link to the new comments on each thread you've read will still be here. We're not taking it away.

Footer:


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We've added access to the latest headline in each section right under the links list, so that when you're done reading the main page of Fark, you can jump right into any of the individual sections.

As you can see, nothing really drastic is going on, and yet, it's a rather huge improvement to how Fark looks. The team has worked to make it much easier on the eyes: the links are more readable, and you can now sort things and get to exactly what you want, how you want it. You now have instant access to follow threads where you're active.

But we want to get your feedback. What can we do to tweak this new design to improve it?
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-02-26 05:39:34 PM
 
2011-02-26 05:40:00 PM
There is something about that woman's face that is very punchable.
 
2011-02-26 06:02:37 PM
I'm going to chime in with - don't get rid of the skittles tabs! It's pretty much one of the branding aspects of the page imo.
 
2011-02-26 06:40:48 PM
Looks like you've only changed the parts that I've never noticed before. Who knew Fark had a right side?
 
2011-02-26 06:59:59 PM
Meh, fark it.

:-D
 
2011-02-26 07:02:27 PM
NOoooooo

You'll also notice that your login now has a little envelope icon with a number -- this is your message center. When you click on the icon, the page will refresh to show you all system notifications, as well as all of the threads in which you have been replied to or mentioned since you last visited your message center.

I can jointly use the home computer with impunity because you would have to know and remember my login name to find this or least hunt around a little.

I enjoy my wife's delusion that I actually work at work.

You can't create a frontpage link directly into my profile.
 
2011-02-26 07:02:58 PM
They heard about this over on Reddit.

They're buying more servers
 
2011-02-26 07:03:38 PM
FREDIOHEAD: So, TEM killed the music tab just like everyone said he would. What a shock.

Fark him in the face with a mallet.

I don't give a shiat about "entertainment". I care about music. Now I have to wade through even more shiat to get to the music news?

It doesn't matter one bit, because they'll do as they want anyway, and the idiots here will take it in the ass like they always do.
 
2011-02-26 07:05:38 PM
OH HAI GIZE! HAZ ANY1 CUMPLAYNED ABOWT TEH MUZIK TAB YET?!?!!?

PLEEZ TO KEEP IT?
 
2011-02-26 07:19:13 PM
F*ck the music tab.
 
2011-02-26 07:29:14 PM
Can you make it so I can filter out the tags I don't want to see? I get enough "SICK" in my world without having to read about the global sickos. Thanks a lot.
 
2011-02-26 07:35:51 PM
So here's a dumb thought for the new site design. Yes, I'm retarded and lame but I'd really like a mouse-over pop-up with an explanation of what each option in the Prefs page and an option to disable that once I'm no longer retarded.

kthxbai

/Love the preview
//Keep up the good work
 
2011-02-26 07:42:13 PM
Yes
 
2011-02-26 07:44:33 PM
Doesn't look that bad, really
 
2011-02-26 07:47:38 PM
stage98: Can you make it so I can filter out the tags I don't want to see? I get enough "SICK" in my world without having to read about the global sickos. Thanks a lot.

Also, could you make it so I can filter out all teh ghey? and those dang joos? and whats with the almost-nekkid?
 
2011-02-26 08:08:43 PM
stage98: Can you make it so I can filter out the tags I don't want to see? I get enough "SICK" in my world without having to read about the global sickos. Thanks a lot.

Farky lets you do that, if anyone has a working link to it. (That isn't to demean your suggestion, just to say that there is currently a workaround for it.)
 
2011-02-26 08:27:19 PM
skaya: They heard about this over on Reddit.

They're buying more another servers


FTFY
 
2011-02-26 09:05:25 PM
so will it suck more or less? go warriors!
 
2011-02-26 09:14:18 PM
Did someone mention Digg? So we can game the site for page hits now?

*starts making multiples accounts*
 
2011-02-26 09:33:16 PM
You should consult Gawker before making any changes, they really nailed their redesign.
 
2011-02-26 10:45:50 PM
Mike: adragontattoo: You guys still selling off old hardware?

I have a good pile of DDR2 and DDR3 memory I don't need, other than that, not much.


Holy crap, you do resemble Travolta! It was hard to notice that from the face-down pic we usually see of you.

As long as the redesign isn't like the sucky new one at Gawker, I'll get over it.
 
2011-02-26 10:51:20 PM
Truthiness: Well, yeah - if you make it narrower,

Two words

Automatic reflow.

/I was a web designer, before I became a pure programmer. Our mantra was always to let the client decide how things would look. IE, let the browser reflow.

Remember, HTML is supposed to be a markup language.

WalMartian: I bet you're one of those people that like to sit wayyy up in front at the movie theater.

I'm not sure if this was a ding on my eyesight, but it's excellent FYI.

/I prefer to sit in the middle or back of the movie theatre.

/But I always have to be at the center of a row, fark offsets.
 
2011-02-26 10:53:33 PM
music tab...
 
2011-02-26 10:54:26 PM
Somacandra: In general, I like it....two suggestions:

1) Shadow/Emboss the Section tabs (Main, Politics...) so they are foregrounded for the eye, not backgrounded.

2) Don't kill the Music tab. If you have to merge its better to merge 'Music' with 'Video' for a 'Multimedia' tab and keep the Entertainment/Gossip tab separate. Very different web audiences to appeal to.


I think those are both good ideas.
 
2011-02-26 11:12:58 PM
Advertising revenue. That's what it's all about.
 
2011-02-26 11:16:24 PM
Poppa Boner: music tab...

Lisa needs braces.

/Farkbacked about the music tab days ago
 
2011-02-26 11:21:02 PM
Raddamant: Poppa Boner: music tab...

Lisa needs braces.

/Farkbacked about the music tab days ago


music tab...
 
2011-02-26 11:22:46 PM
lordargent:
biatches don't know 'bout my widescreen monitors

2x(1980x1050)


Pleez to D.I.A.F.
Kthnksbye
 
2011-02-26 11:31:31 PM
I hope they learned something from the mass exodus from Digg last year...

/former digger
 
2011-02-27 12:10:55 AM
Oh sh*t. How did I miss this thread? I for one think they should keep the music tab.

*other people noises*

"yeah, poppa boner...
you're totally right poppa boner...
poppa boner is so smart and sexy...
"
 
2011-02-27 12:15:07 AM
GD Zuckerberg, I just got used to this version of FB.

/wait, what?
 
2011-02-27 12:27:45 AM
the layout is acceptable but it lacks color
 
2011-02-27 12:27:48 AM
Can you make sure that the changes don't keep the full site working on my Android mobile phone? I don't like the mobile site, and with a 4.3" LCD 800x480 screen the current full site works well. I properly stay logged in, read links are calculated, etc. Thanks!
 
2011-02-27 12:43:34 AM
twfeline : Pleez to D.I.A.F.

They're actually fairly cheap now.

/just finished turning my 2nd bedroom into a computer lab of sorts.

/selling the old unpaired monitor (it's only 1680x1050)
 
2011-02-27 02:41:03 AM
StoneColdAtheist: Hey Drew, make the font size bigger so us old farts can read the threads without squinting, mkay?

Wat? I can't hear ya!


Ctrl-plus in Firefox scales up the page....
 
2011-02-27 06:44:10 AM
I'm over it. I do get a fair amount of blow-back about FARK when I show it to non-farkers or non geeks. They seem to hate it and not understand the layout. I don't know where that comes from. Nothing explodes when you click on something here. Not even a poop thread.

Whatever. I'll be okay with the upcoming FARK.

However, keeping the music tab would be nice.
 
2011-02-27 07:22:32 AM
IF THERE'S NO MUSIC TAB I'M NEVER COMING BACK!!!!!

/couldn't care less about the music tab
//like the new look
///happy as long as you can do anything at Zombocom
 
2011-02-27 08:43:12 AM
I am blinded by rage, scandalized by betrayal, and just wanted to add my disgruntled moans what promises to be a Mormon Tabernacle Choir of yarrrrrrrghhhhhhhh!

There aren't enough toilets in a train museum to pay host to the steaming heaps of my overflowing butthurt.
 
2011-02-27 09:23:03 AM
Music Tab Lifespan:
1. GET RID OF IT.
2. Outrage.
3. People forget there was a music tab.
4. Add it back in as a new feature next major fark redesign.
5. Be hailed as a genius for adding a music tab.
 
2011-02-27 11:32:49 AM
Fark will look a lot less fabulous without the rainbow color tabs. I like it.
 
2011-02-27 12:44:58 PM
Can we keep the music tab? new and upcoming bands could be helped along..

www.seaturtle.org
 
2011-02-27 01:15:05 PM
Agree on preserving el taggo musico.
(although fewer troll-written headlines and more diversity in musical topics would probably go a lengthy way towards making it more of place people feel compelled to visit and comment upon).

Other than that, as you will.
 
2011-02-27 02:32:23 PM
I use my blackdingleberry's wifi to Fark. Can I not be redirected to Mobile Fark. Handful of links and no extras is not enough farking pleasure.
 
2011-02-27 06:04:49 PM
"We are basing our layouts on the new Gawker redesign"

Stopped going to Gawker and Jezebel, it's not practical anymore.
 
2011-02-27 08:35:39 PM
twfeline: Advertising revenue. That's what it's all about.

The nefarious, scheming, dastardly fiends! Their efforts to make the site more attractive and user-friendly are part of a grand plot to lure in more visitors, and thus more ad clicks, you say? That's horib-- wait... how's that a problem, again?

Yes, web site owners like to put food and beer on their tables. That's not exactly an earth-shaking revelation. Nor does that describe an ethical failing, as long as the money is earned in an above-board fashion.
 
2011-02-27 08:56:19 PM
No kidding.

Timeline, btw, is a couple months. These are mock-ups, not screenshots. So complaints about width etc... aren't really relevant, unless you're looking in someone's pants.
 
2011-02-27 09:08:11 PM
Mike: No kidding.

Timeline, btw, is a couple months. These are mock-ups, not screenshots. So complaints about width etc... aren't really relevant, unless you're looking in someone's pants.


DUUUUUUDE!!!! MUSIC TAB!
 
2011-02-28 12:32:35 AM
Sorry, but please don't LP this thread.
 
2011-02-28 02:00:05 AM
Mike: So complaints about width etc... aren't really relevant

Is it an accurate mock up? Then the solicited critiques are relevant.
 
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