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Fark Redesign Comps -- prepare to get over it 
Posted by Drew at 2011-02-24 1:25:13 PM, edited 2011-02-24 2:00:53 PM (999 comments) | Permalink

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Introduction

tl;dr - You'll get over it

Longer Introduction

In preparation for this blog entry, I've scoured the tubes for introductions to new redesigns to build the ultimate horrifying corporatespeak version of "no seriously you'll really like this redesign it's for your own good post." So here goes:

We know what you really want. It's not what you think you want, but we do know better than you do. We're experts. At least one of us even has a degree from a college.

As it turns out, this involves taking what you've known and loved for years, deleting it entirely, and replacing it with something completely different. Once we've done that, we'll continue to insist for weeks that this completely new website that we've just slapped our name on is the same as the old thing that doesn't exist anymore. Did I mention we deleted the code completely? We couldn't go back if we wanted to. Besides, Kevin Rose wouldn't refund the money we paid for the old Digg source code at this point, he's already spent it on $1000-an-ounce teas.

We merged the open source Reddit code with the old codebase we bought from Digg and we're calling it New Fark 4.1 (don't ask what happened to 4.0, it involved a Russian botnet and a well known poker website). We are basing our layouts on the new Gawker redesign, in that we made it so awesome, you'll pretend to hate it just to look cool. Also, we're all taking a month-long vacation the day after New Fark 4.1 launches, so if anything's broken (ha ha what are the odds) don't worry, we'll be back to fix it in 30 days.

Please be sure to twat/facepost/youspace this blog entry to all your friends and followers.

I have nothing more to add, I didn't do squat for coding on this redesign other than drink beer and hurl abuse at the Fark team for not moving faster. So I'm going to hand the descriptions over to Fark's resident design guy and couch-lifter for my wife when he's at my house, Joe Peacock (PattonX). See how stiff his writing style is? He's scared to death you won't like it. Personally, I think he should just man up and beat you guys over the head with this redesign. He's an expert, after all (but he's not one of the ones who went to a college for that degree).

If anyone needs me I'll be on the twitters screaming at Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to give credit to friends of mine for things that I have no stake in.


Okay, so, the redesign, by PattonX

Umm... Thanks, Drew, for that very interesting intro. That degree from a college is serving you well.

So, as Drew said, we wanted to give you guys a heads-up on an upcoming redesign of Fark, and get your feedback. We feel this new look and feel is a much-needed refresh on the overall aesthetic of Fark, without drastically changing how Fark works. It's a fresh coat of paint, if you will, and we think it improves on just about every aspect of the Fark design.

Here's the page as it looks in whole:



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The very first thing you'll notice: it's cleaner. More space between elements, but not too much. One column on the right instead of two. Much more readable. Let's look closer at each of the individual sections.

The right side:


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This is perhaps the most drastic overhaul. The right side toolbars are drastically cleaner and easier to use. Gone are the seven micro-type menus of various sorts. We've stripped down the right side to focus on the important stuff -- using Fark. We've also dumped the incredibly long tower ad unit in favor of a more manageable 300x250 ad unit. The end result -- it just makes more sense.

The header:


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The header in general is the same as it has always been -- all of the menu items and structure you're used to are here. It's just much, much cleaner and easier to use.

Have you ever shown Fark to someone and had them ask "Okay, so what is this?" We've made it much easier to show them. There's now a link for new users to find out all about Fark, without having to figure out the FAQ section (a walkthrough, if you will) -- making it much easier to explain Fark. And that bit about "real news made readable" won't always be there. We're going to stuff that section full of random but related statements about what Fark is. If you have suggestions, email Drew.

The menubar:


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Skittle-tabs (rainbow colors) are gone. We've gone to a much cleaner and simpler page system which simply demarks where you are, without tabs and rainbow headers. You'll notice that the "music" tab is now wrapped into the Entertainment tab (previously called Showbiz). We've done this to streamline all the entertainment news, as music news has mostly become Entertainment news. We're moving music videos into the video tab.

Message center:


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You'll also notice that your login now has a little envelope icon with a number -- this is your message center. When you click on the icon, the page will refresh to show you all system notifications, as well as all of the threads in which you have been replied to or mentioned since you last visited your message center.

The links:

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The important part. The same link list view is back, but spaced out more for readability, and with much clearer column headers. But you'll notice a few new options for sorting your links.

Now, you can sort chronologically, as Fark is already sorted, or re-sort the list by popularity (clicks) or by comment count.


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You can also show the last day, two days or 7 days worth of links from the bottom of the headline list.


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One note: it's not represented here, but the link to the new comments on each thread you've read will still be here. We're not taking it away.

Footer:


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We've added access to the latest headline in each section right under the links list, so that when you're done reading the main page of Fark, you can jump right into any of the individual sections.

As you can see, nothing really drastic is going on, and yet, it's a rather huge improvement to how Fark looks. The team has worked to make it much easier on the eyes: the links are more readable, and you can now sort things and get to exactly what you want, how you want it. You now have instant access to follow threads where you're active.

But we want to get your feedback. What can we do to tweak this new design to improve it?
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2011-02-24 02:37:01 PM
netweavr: There's newer models coming out all the time!

Pick yours up today at your nearest ami retailer or visit them directly at www.amistore.com


Only available at participating stores.
 
2011-02-24 02:37:22 PM
Whut? Oh. Ok.
 
2011-02-24 02:37:43 PM
Drew: Further changes are as follows, since you all care so much:

-Pics in profile will be mandatory
-"Out the submitter button" added, but to protect from abuse at the end of each day (EST) whichever thread got the most votes will have the submitter outed
-one free basemetal for everyone. I don't know what a basemetal is, or the logistics of giving them out to all of you, but you keep asking for them so whatever.


Awesome. Keep up the good work!
 
2011-02-24 02:37:55 PM
Fubini: Also, why am I suddenly getting emails about comment responses and how do I turn it off?

Here's why (which the emails now have a link to) and as for how, read the bottom section of the actual emails
 
2011-02-24 02:37:55 PM
Jaboobinator: wanderingstan.com

MadMaze FTW
 
2011-02-24 02:38:11 PM
I didn't see the "adult content" (foobies) button.

Is it now lost and gone forever?
 
2011-02-24 02:38:17 PM
SoonerGrad:
BIE PLEASE


Oh no - you got me to fall for the "Free Mammograms" trick at the last Fark party.

Fool me once, shame on you, etc.

/should have known that a real doctor doesn't work out of a box covered in aluminum foil
//or do they?
 
2011-02-24 02:38:27 PM
I would be derelict in my duty if I failed to express my concerns as to the potential detrimental effect this redesign my have upon the Australian film industry.

nobodyUwannaknow: Will there be less ALTs ?

Fewer.

FEWER alts, not less.

Goddammit.

} ich bin ein Grammarnationalsozialist
 
2011-02-24 02:38:31 PM
Now if we could just do something about the idiots who post on this god-awful site.

/not bad, guys
 
2011-02-24 02:38:44 PM
I Said: Drew: Further changes are as follows, since you all care so much:

-Pics in profile will be mandatory
-"Out the submitter button" added, but to protect from abuse at the end of each day (EST) whichever thread got the most votes will have the submitter outed
-one free basemetal for everyone. I don't know what a basemetal is, or the logistics of giving them out to all of you, but you keep asking for them so whatever.

Awesome. Keep up the good work!


Well played, sir. Well played.
 
2011-02-24 02:39:22 PM
netweavr: PattonX:

Can you show what the site looks like with Flash disabled? Adblock on? NoScript? GreaseMonkey?


The only thing that's flash that ever shows up is the occasional ad, so just imagine the ad block greyed out like Flash block does. Same with Adblock.

With NoScript, site will look the same, but you may miss out on some functionality we're incorporating into comments (such as friending/ignoring from individual comments, and comment posting). With greasemonkey... I have no idea. I could make up some random style and put it in there for you if you want.
 
2011-02-24 02:39:25 PM
i still prefer the design fark had before the current one
 
2011-02-24 02:39:28 PM
real shaman: I didn't see the "adult content" (foobies) button.

Is it now lost and gone forever?


Site's still there, but I guess the advertisers won this round.

...This round
 
2011-02-24 02:39:30 PM
Hyperbolic Hyperbole: make me some tea: What's changing in the comments side? That's the most important part to me.

This. I need to figure out if I can still JO to the format.


You mean there's stuff you CAN'T rub one out to?
 
2011-02-24 02:39:41 PM
Pretty good, but I hate the increased spacing between headlines. Even the current site makes feels similar to the times I'm stuck with a large print library book. I could be reading a copy of Finnegan's Wake, but it always feels like the Berenstain Bears instead.

/might be appropriate for the Politics tab mouth-breathers, though
 
2011-02-24 02:39:59 PM
I, for one, welcome our new design overlords and the inspired placing of space between elements.
 
2011-02-24 02:40:00 PM
alt login: Oh no - you got me to fall for the "Free Mammograms" trick at the last Fark party.

Fool me once, shame on you, etc.

/should have known that a real doctor doesn't work out of a box covered in aluminum foil
//or do they?


The free mammograms box sounds like a good idea until some drunk fat guy with moobs bigger than your head decides he needs a mammogram too
 
2011-02-24 02:40:10 PM
make me some tea: Also, this one's directed at Mike:

How much downtime can we expect, and will it be while we're all drunk on a Friday evening?


Please god, no
 
2011-02-24 02:40:21 PM
Will there be less Jews?
 
2011-02-24 02:40:40 PM
pattonx: netweavr: PattonX:

Can you show what the site looks like with Flash disabled? Adblock on? NoScript? GreaseMonkey?

The only thing that's flash that ever shows up is the occasional ad, so just imagine the ad block greyed out like Flash block does. Same with Adblock.

With NoScript, site will look the same, but you may miss out on some functionality we're incorporating into comments (such as friending/ignoring from individual comments, and comment posting). With greasemonkey... I have no idea. I could make up some random style and put it in there for you if you want.


Just trying to think of random things that could cause headaches. Easier to catch them now then later.
 
2011-02-24 02:40:47 PM
How about "Out the Alt" instead of "Out the Subby".

Alts are supposed to be illegal on Fark as well as trolls.

So, please, an "Out the Alt" button and a "Ban the Troll" button.

/perhaps a "Send BIE" button but I go too far
 
2011-02-24 02:40:59 PM
Of all the changes that Fark has been through, this is most certainly one of them.
 
2011-02-24 02:41:33 PM
what_now: I don't want to wash my vagina :(

I want to see the rest of that thread.
 
2011-02-24 02:41:46 PM
real shaman: I didn't see the "adult content" (foobies) button.

Is it now lost and gone forever?


Advertisers don't like that crap.
 
2011-02-24 02:41:50 PM
Totally over it.

Still, I gotta say its a move backwards. Gray on gray navigation? Really?
 
2011-02-24 02:42:05 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: How about "Out the Alt" instead of "Out the Subby".

Alts are supposed to be illegal on Fark as well as trolls.

So, please, an "Out the Alt" button and a "Ban the Troll" button.

/perhaps a "Send BIE" button but I go too far


But . . .but I like it here :(
 
2011-02-24 02:42:08 PM
"We are basing our layouts on the new Gawker redesign..."

Great, so NoScript is going to vomit with rage and then cry itself to sleep in the corner?
 
2011-02-24 02:42:23 PM
pattonx: netweavr: PattonX:

Can you show what the site looks like with Flash disabled? Adblock on? NoScript? GreaseMonkey?

The only thing that's flash that ever shows up is the occasional ad, so just imagine the ad block greyed out like Flash block does. Same with Adblock.

With NoScript, site will look the same, but you may miss out on some functionality we're incorporating into comments (such as friending/ignoring from individual comments, and comment posting). With greasemonkey... I have no idea. I could make up some random style and put it in there for you if you want.


And might I also add, and this is very important: Anything you do to change your browser's standard behavior is not our responsibility. And that includes Farky.
 
2011-02-24 02:42:30 PM
too-old: Will there be less Jews?

I heard they're adding an "ignore country" feature that let's you block all foreigners. Canadians are blocked by default, naturally.
 
2011-02-24 02:42:46 PM
too-old: Will there be less Jews?

FARK! Now with more Hebrews.
 
2011-02-24 02:43:04 PM
Did we get an Alabama tag?
 
2011-02-24 02:43:16 PM
Drew: IrateShadow: Did the right sidebar get bigger, or is it just the scale of that screenshot? Also, tile backgrounds make the baby Jesus cry. Static tile backgrounds make him cry blood.

The eventual plan is customizable backgrounds


Okay that I like.
 
2011-02-24 02:43:20 PM

Almost forgot

THREAD REPORTED
 
2011-02-24 02:43:45 PM
*flails with impotent rage*
 
2011-02-24 02:44:20 PM
btrflykate: tin_man: I Said: Who called it?
Who called "We are basing our layouts on the new Gawker redesign"?

Me. This guy. Yeah, in your face, f*ckers who didn't call it. IN YOUR FACE!

I'm a witness.

I confirmed before you! NEENER NEENER!


Yeah but you're a girl so it doesn't count.
 
2011-02-24 02:44:27 PM
HAHA I'M STILL GOING TO USE ADBLOCK
 
2011-02-24 02:44:29 PM
I Said: TheShavingofOccam123: How about "Out the Alt" instead of "Out the Subby".

Alts are supposed to be illegal on Fark as well as trolls.

So, please, an "Out the Alt" button and a "Ban the Troll" button.

/perhaps a "Send BIE" button but I go too far

But . . .but I like it here :(


How about "Ban the Bastard Troll" button? Nice ones can stay.
 
2011-02-24 02:44:53 PM
This is because of the court case, isn't it? ISN'T IT??!!!!

The court case gave me anal cancer and rape-rape-raped my wife.

True story.
 
2011-02-24 02:45:03 PM
Is there going to be any update to the mobile site?
 
2011-02-24 02:45:03 PM
You had me worried at "Gawker redesign" but the actual site makes me feel like it might... not... be... bad

/still goes to ca.deadspin.com
 
2011-02-24 02:45:12 PM
pattonx: pattonx: netweavr: PattonX:

Can you show what the site looks like with Flash disabled? Adblock on? NoScript? GreaseMonkey?

The only thing that's flash that ever shows up is the occasional ad, so just imagine the ad block greyed out like Flash block does. Same with Adblock.

With NoScript, site will look the same, but you may miss out on some functionality we're incorporating into comments (such as friending/ignoring from individual comments, and comment posting). With greasemonkey... I have no idea. I could make up some random style and put it in there for you if you want.

And might I also add, and this is very important: Anything you do to change your browser's standard behavior is not our responsibility. And that includes Farky.


Nice try. I've worked on UIs though, and it's ALWAYS your responsibility. Even when it's not, it still is.

[Joke]
Also, Flash is an add-on, not standard.
[/Joke]
 
2011-02-24 02:45:17 PM
I really don't remember what it was like before the last change.
 
2011-02-24 02:45:22 PM
will TFD be the same functionally?
 
2011-02-24 02:45:48 PM
Personally, I think the redesign should incorporate more posts from foreigners and minorities. They have humorous observations on life that differ greatly from my pre-conceived Western notions and beliefs.

Also, add some flames & shiat.
 
2011-02-24 02:45:48 PM
ami5004: HAHA I'M NEVER GOING TO USE ADBLOCK

...The newer models are so much nicer.
 
2011-02-24 02:45:51 PM
Looks pretty good, but the tabs don't really stand out at all, and as such are not as user-friendly.

Not advocating the current "Skittles tabs," per se. Just saying, think of this from the POV of someone new to the site. The "Skittles tabs" really tell your eye where to go and what you can get here at Fark. The monochrome tabs just blend into the background.
 
2011-02-24 02:46:23 PM
How do I get to the new site? I keep pressing Alt+F4 but it's not working.
 
2011-02-24 02:46:30 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

*runs in circle*


/I like it.
 
2011-02-24 02:46:40 PM
Wow...this is a step in the right direction. Actually informing the user community of the change, soliciting feedback, and joking about it.

Seems Drew and company have learned from 05-25-07 NEVER FORGET!!!
 
2011-02-24 02:46:41 PM
Meh, not much of a change. Wake me when we get multiple tags for stories and some new tags (Awesome, Win, Bummer, etc).
 
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