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(Denver Channel)   68-year old woman attacked and nearly killed by chihuahuas while walking her chihuahua. Nah, just kidding, they were all pit bulls   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 128
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2011-02-24 04:00:50 PM
KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Dude, that is all I've been saying the entire time.

/spits in hand
//shakes hands
 
2011-02-24 04:02:52 PM
My handle, and the sweetest dog I've ever known:

i1099.photobucket.com

Would never hurt a person, but would tear the crap out of a pack of raccoons when given the chance.
 
2011-02-24 04:08:13 PM
walkerhound: My handle, and the sweetest dog I've ever known:



Would never hurt a person, but would tear the crap out of a pack of raccoons when given the chance.


I would likely get bitten by that dog. It wouldn't be the dogs fault either, I just simply wouldn't be able to stop myself from sprinting directly at it with my hands out to rub some ears. Even though I know that dogs do not like this.

/DOGDOGDOG
//Whosagoodog
 
2011-02-24 04:34:31 PM
animal900: rapper


* Theodore Roosevelt
* Woodrow Wilson
* Helen Keller
* Jamie Foxx
* Rachael Ray
* Jon Stewart
* Ken Howard
* Jessica Biel
* Jessica Alba
* Pink
* Sandra Bullock
* Kristen Johnson

Not a whole lot of rap going on there.

/Helen Keller owned one... how people fark up a dog a blind and deaf girl could control is beyond me.
 
2011-02-24 04:35:51 PM
I hate min pins and miniature poodles more than anything. Have scars all over from them. My husband has a jacked up nerve in his hip from where a French Mastiff in Belgium tried to have him for lunch. The only problem I had with a pit bull was a blind dog aggressive pittie who kept confusing me for a dog (as I work with and have dogs). So I'd have to let her get allllll up in my face close enough to smell I was NOT in fact a dog before she'd back off. Holy fark that was a lesson in trust and belief in the dog. I mean she'd have to get so close I could feel her breath on my face and touch her nose with mine. And breathe the whole time and be calm so she wouldn't freak out on my fear. She was big and gorgeous and such a lover but OMFG she hated other dogs.
 
2011-02-24 04:42:26 PM
walkerhound: KiTTeNs_on_AciD: she is an angel.

So you finally decided to just euthanize her?

/I haven't got a dog in this fight

//Seriously, I do - I gave in to the firearms analogy a long time ago. Guns don't kill people, irresponsible people kill people. Pitty's don't kill people, irresponsible owners result in pittys killing people...though I would never own a pitty, I couldn't trust them. Personal anecdotes are personal.



Woah, I must have missed that on my last time through. Are you saying the gun analogy actually worked? Does 'a long time ago' mean years ago or earlier in the thread?

God I would just be so tickled to know that I may have helped an open mind reevaluate an issue. Especially this one since I am a reformed pit-hater.
 
2011-02-24 04:53:17 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Big dogs? Not APBTs then.

List of breeds bigger than APBTs


Now provide a list of the dogs smaller than APBT.

Or, instead of something stupid and irrelevant like your list, actually post what percentile they fall into. E.G. APBT are in the Xth percentile for biggest dogs, meaning 100-X% of dogs are smaller than APBT.

But really, the largeness of the dog has nothing to do with anything, it's the temperament.
 
2011-02-24 04:58:39 PM
farfigneugan: KiTTeNs_on_AciD: And a great big [citation needed] to anyone claiming pits are "more prone to violence" than any other breed.

oh good.

http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2011.htm

http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2010.htm

Citations provided.


This won't change your mind, but your cites don't change mine either. That site really seems dedicated to banning pit bulls. They don't bother to better define what a pit bull is. Also, they claim that criminals tend to own dangerous dogs, while at the same time saying that "it's the dog, not the owner".

I came away very unconvinced. And your claims that anyone that disagrees with you is retarded or idiotic isn't helping.

I own a pit bull puppy, 5 months old. She's been pretty easy to train thus far. My black labs were much more stubborn and difficult and less eager to please. And my Jack Russell was far meaner than my pit; in fact, he was a dick.

All this talk about how one breed is meaner than another is like dog breed intelligence testing. It seems to ignore individual variation between dogs of the same breed. It isn't rational to think that all German Shepherds are smarter than all Labs (making this up for example), as some GS must be stupider than others.
 
2011-02-24 05:00:07 PM
KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Woah, I must have missed that on my last time through. Are you saying the gun analogy actually worked? Does 'a long time ago' mean years ago or earlier in the thread?

A few years ago. But like I said, I'd never own a pitty, and I've split up with women who owned pittys with that being the predominant reason. I just can't trust them, I've worked with too many bad ones (the dogs, that is). But I won't condemn someone for owning one or bringing them into Home Depot - proper socialization is just what any dog needs.
 
2011-02-24 05:01:01 PM
farfigneugan: KiTTeNs_on_AciD: And a great big [citation needed] to anyone claiming pits are "more prone to violence" than any other breed.

oh good.

http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2011.htm

http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2010.htm

Citations provided.


So staticstics that takes its numbers from news article vs actual vet verified dog breed stories is now undisputable facts?

Because we all know that verifying an APBT is easy
 
2011-02-24 05:03:40 PM
Talon: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Big dogs? Not APBTs then.

List of breeds bigger than APBTs

Now provide a list of the dogs smaller than APBT.

Or, instead of something stupid and irrelevant like your list, actually post what percentile they fall into. E.G. APBT are in the Xth percentile for biggest dogs, meaning 100-X% of dogs are smaller than APBT.

But really, the largeness of the dog has nothing to do with anything, it's the temperament.


Except that being able to correctly identify a APBT is hard considering all short hair dogs must be APBTs. They are generally not considered a large dog by any sort. 60lbs is smaller than most Labs
 
2011-02-24 05:11:36 PM
walkerhound: KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Woah, I must have missed that on my last time through. Are you saying the gun analogy actually worked? Does 'a long time ago' mean years ago or earlier in the thread?

A few years ago. But like I said, I'd never own a pitty, and I've split up with women who owned pittys with that being the predominant reason. I just can't trust them, I've worked with too many bad ones (the dogs, that is). But I won't condemn someone for owning one or bringing them into Home Depot - proper socialization is just what any dog needs.


Heh, unrelated piece of advice you just made me think of....

Everyone should be weary about dogs owned by long single women. Not all women mind you, I'm not painting with that wide of a brush, but be mindful. Single women with issues sometimes treat their dogs as stand in children or boyfriends, which is awful for the temperament of the dog. They will act like a manipulative child or jealous boyfriend when someone new comes around, and they usually don't respect their owners as their leader.

If you meet a new woman and go over to her house, then her dog does not respect your personal space and she doesn't correct it immediately.... run.
 
2011-02-24 05:18:40 PM
On the planet I come from, Earth, animals are unpredictable.
And on this same planet some are more unpredictable than others, especially when the animal is a pet and the have bad owners.
 
2011-02-24 05:31:10 PM
litespeed74: On the planet I come from, Earth, animals are unpredictable.
And on this same planet some are more unpredictable than others, especially when the animal is a pet and the have bad owners.


So mechanical devices are predictable and pets are not, got it. Over the course of this thread you haven't read but felt compelled to "contribute" to, we discussed two different mechanical devices that accidentally kill ~1500 Americans each per year. Dogs have averaged in the 20's over the past couple years. So even with the unpredictable nature and rampant ownership by tards, the danger STILL pales in comparison to other things which you will not likely discuss an outright ban on.

What was your point again?
 
2011-02-24 05:57:24 PM
offmymeds: animal900: So what I'm gathering from the dog people on here is that Pit Bulls are typically owned by farking idiots. Got it.

And you're a farking moron. Got it?



LOL, I rest my case.


buffalosoldier: animal900: rapper


* Theodore Roosevelt
* Woodrow Wilson
* Helen Keller
* Jamie Foxx
* Rachael Ray
* Jon Stewart
* Ken Howard
* Jessica Biel
* Jessica Alba
* Pink
* Sandra Bullock
* Kristen Johnson

Not a whole lot of rap going on there.

/Helen Keller owned one... how people fark up a dog a blind and deaf girl could control is beyond me.


I said wanna-be rapper. Helen Keller tried to throw down from time to time. Hip hop hughhray, hughhhh, hay, hughhhh!
 
2011-02-24 06:21:06 PM
Dogsbite.org is not a professional or scientific site. It's one woman with an axe to grind. (new window)
 
2011-02-24 06:23:41 PM
BlackCat23: ashinmytomatoes: BlackCat23: BradleyUffner: Subtonic: timujin: Also, ten will get your twenty that these dogs were made this way by their owners, people who didn't even get a license for them.

How can you claim that a dog bred over many generations to dop nothing but fight and kill can be tamed by a handful of snasausages. Cue the "oh my little flopsy wouldn't harm a fly". Trust me, it's just biding its time til it comes time to tear a baby's face off.

Dachshunds were bred for nearly the same skills, only aimed at badgers and other tunnel dwelling creatures. Dachshunds rarely attack people. The difference is the attitude of the owners.

Or Westies... Carnes... or pretty much any EU terrier. People seem to gloss over that.


/my mom's old westie bit me more than any other dog i've ever been around
//I still have some good scars from that little bastard
///quite skilled at catching rabbits, though.

My childhood dog was a Westie, Laddie. He was sweet and a better mouser than the cats but he HATED strangers and the mailman.

We used to joke that ours was shipped UPS, since the only person he truly hated was the UPS guy. Didn't matter if it was the normal dude, or a sub, brown getup? You're gettin' chased outta the yard.

/he really was a sweet dog, but being what they are, they're quick to nip, and even into old age he was rather hyper and playful, so shiat happened. I never held it against him, though.


Well, it was really adult, male strangers that Laddie didn't like. His people were two small women (Mom and Grammy) and two kids so I think he just wasn't used to them.
 
2011-02-24 06:23:42 PM
It's_A_Farking_Secret: Dogsbite.org is not a professional or scientific site. It's one woman with an axe to grind. (new window)

Heh, I wasn't far off in my initial observation of it reading an awful lot like MADD literature.

It's emotional retaliation, not objective statistical analysis or well reasoned debate on policy making.
 
2011-02-24 06:34:27 PM
KiTTeNs_on_AciD: litespeed74: On the planet I come from, Earth, animals are unpredictable.
And on this same planet some are more unpredictable than others, especially when the animal is a pet and the have bad owners.

So mechanical devices are predictable and pets are not, got it. Over the course of this thread you haven't read but felt compelled to "contribute" to, we discussed two different mechanical devices that accidentally kill ~1500 Americans each per year. Dogs have averaged in the 20's over the past couple years. So even with the unpredictable nature and rampant ownership by tards, the danger STILL pales in comparison to other things which you will not likely discuss an outright ban on.

What was your point again?


ughhh....what??? calm down there little one.
My point was simple. Bad things can happen around animals. Period. I feel bad for the woman but dealing with animals is unpredictable at times. Simple as that.
I guess I missed where I mentioned banning things or something...
can you help me find it?
 
2011-02-24 06:49:25 PM
So can all the responsible pitbull owners please band together and denounce every pitbull walking dude decked out in a flat widebrim hat with a shiny sticker on it, matching random patterned MMA-themed t-shirt and cargo shorts (or similarily their gold hoop-earringed matte-foundationed white lip-liner wearing girlfriends)?
 
2011-02-24 07:00:15 PM
TomorrowComesToday: So can all the responsible pitbull owners please band together and denounce every pitbull walking dude decked out in a flat widebrim hat with a shiny sticker on it, matching random patterned MMA-themed t-shirt and cargo shorts (or similarily their gold hoop-earringed matte-foundationed white lip-liner wearing girlfriends)?

No, because if he is out walking it on a leash properly there is already one thing he is doing correctly and I'd have no reason to assume he is a bad dog owner. I will denounce the shiat out of him for being a general DB, but, that doesn't make him a bad owner automatically. Even if he chose the breed because he is a DB, that doesn't mean he can't adequately take care of it. Often times meatheads better adapt to the dominant / alpha role that a dog needs in an owner.

Now, if he is walking it off leash and not paying attention to it, not correcting it in a proper way and at proper times, then it's a different story entirely.

You rarely see a shiatty owner walking their dog.

/i know that's not what you meant
 
2011-02-24 07:35:59 PM
I regularly attend a free dog socialization class with my German shepherd/St. Bernard cross. We go because he enjoys it, and it helps him from being frightened of other dogs. (He tends to get more and more timid at the dog park if we don't go.) At the class, we stand up, unleash our dogs, then walk in circles to music, ignoring our dogs and letting them figure out how to interact with each other. Multiple dog trainers keep watch over the group, and interrupt any overly-aggressive dog behavior.

At the class, dogs that are prone to biting other dogs or people must wear muzzles. I've only seen a few dogs wear a muzzle during the class: a yellow lab, a border collie, and a single pit bull-type dog.

Many of the dogs at the class are brought by foster families and the local rescues, and dogs that are commonly described as pit bulls make up the majority of the dogs present. I've been going for most of a year now, and have yet to see a dog fight break out.

You do need to get your dog evaluated before you can attend, unless your dog has attended before.

I don't know how many other places run these sorts of programs, but I highly recommend that any dog owner enroll their dog in a socialization class or doggy daycare program. Dogs have to learn how to interact with each other, just like people do. I wish I'd been near a program like this when I had my white German shepherd. Her idea of socializing with other dogs was to run up into their faces. Sadly, I wasn't able to break that habit during her lifetime.

FTA: The next day, Torres tracked down the dogs to a nearby house and called animal control.

I hope that there are strong statutes in place in Arvada, CO. Given that the dogs attacked the woman's puppy and were still running loose the following day, the owners should not be owning any pet larger than a hamster, and will probably face justifiably serious fines.
 
2011-02-24 08:35:29 PM
List of animals "The Man" won't let me own, just 'cause someone didn't know how to handle themselves around them:

African Lion
Killer Whale
Mountain Lion
Bengal tiger
...etc

Like this one time I got a Grizzly Bear, and my neighbors called the cops!! It's absolutely a fact that a Grizzly Bear with the proper owner can safely have a Grizzly Bear as a pet. (new window). Anyway I guess my neighbors were afraid for their lives or something.

Talk about nanny state!
 
2011-02-25 02:25:20 PM
vactech: List of animals "The Man" won't let me own, just 'cause someone didn't know how to handle themselves around them:

African Lion
Killer Whale
Mountain Lion
Bengal tiger
...etc

Like this one time I got a Grizzly Bear, and my neighbors called the cops!! It's absolutely a fact that a Grizzly Bear with the proper owner can safely have a Grizzly Bear as a pet. (new window). Anyway I guess my neighbors were afraid for their lives or something.

Talk about nanny state!


lol- occupation: Bear Actor
 
2011-02-25 07:54:31 PM
This just happened today in my area:

Link

I don't like "pits" for many of the reasons already listed. They're cute, most may be lovable, but its the difference between a nip and having limps crushed or ripped. I don't trust them.
 
2011-02-25 07:55:09 PM
*limbs, damned cold fingers
 
2011-02-25 10:09:57 PM
I bought a used car from somebody who abused it, never changed the oil or washed it, drove it hard and put it away wet, etc. You couldn't trust that farking car, you'd turn your back on it and it would creep up on you and try to run you over.
 
2011-02-26 02:27:33 AM
Poowaddins: This just happened today in my area:

Link

I don't like "pits" for many of the reasons already listed. They're cute, most may be lovable, but its the difference between a nip and having limps crushed or ripped. I don't trust them.


Those def arent pure pits. Hell you can see that Female isnt fixed. And she looks like she hass downs. Muzzle is wrong for an APBTs
 
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