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(Some Guy)   Heinz ketchup goes green   (post-gazette.com) divider line 62
    More: Spiffy, H.J. Heinz Co., Coca-Cola, partners, strategic partner, PlantBottle  
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2011-02-23 01:02:02 PM  
Damn, I was hoping they were bringing back green ketchup.
 
2011-02-23 01:06:27 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, I was hoping they were bringing back green ketchup.


NOT THIS
/very cute headline, subby.
 
2011-02-23 01:27:48 PM  
HURRR DURRR LIBTARD TREE HUGGERS OUT OF MY CAPITALISM!!!!!
 
2011-02-23 01:34:32 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, I was hoping they were bringing back green ketchup.


img834.imageshack.us

Bleech!
 
2011-02-23 01:47:14 PM  
I was afraid they were bringing back their green and purple ketchup.

I got food poisoning while using the green one and I will forever associate the two.
 
2011-02-23 02:00:44 PM  
I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.
 
wee
2011-02-23 02:01:52 PM  
I was hoping it was a glass bottle. The "PlantBottle" is made from 30% plant-based resin. Which are grown with fertilizer. Which is made from fossil hydrocarbons.

What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.
 
2011-02-23 02:05:44 PM  

wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.


$$$$$$
 
2011-02-23 02:41:40 PM  

wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.


The weight of glass makes it more expensive to transport to the stores and then transport to a recycling plant. Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.
 
wee
2011-02-23 03:37:16 PM  

air_wx: Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.


Versus transporting the oil, power used in fractionation and production of the fertilizer, transporting it, operating machinery to fertilize the crops?

I get it, it's easy to squeeze and all, but I like the glass ones. It's "ketchup" when it's in the glass bottle. Because that's what I grew up with, dammit.
 
2011-02-23 04:45:39 PM  

air_wx: Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.


Also there's breakage to deal with. Glass bottles break far more often than plastic ones.
 
2011-02-23 04:46:49 PM  
And damn it, why can't they be bringing back purple ketchup? I loved that stuff.
 
2011-02-23 04:56:23 PM  
I preferred the blue ketchup, though the teal wasn't bad, either.

Forget about the orange. Yuk!
 
2011-02-23 05:04:44 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, I was hoping they were bringing back green ketchup.


Some years ago, when that first came out, I was helping my mom make a meatloaf. Just before I put it in the oven, I put the green ketchup on top. After she took it out, she didn't find it very appetizing. All the better - more for me.

/my mom's meatloaf is the best
 
2011-02-23 05:07:30 PM  

gopher321


I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.


Mr. Burns?


Boo-urns?
 
2011-02-23 05:08:34 PM  
 
2011-02-23 05:09:34 PM  

gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.


You're nuts. They are the world standard. There is no other, all the rest are mere pretenders.
 
2011-02-23 05:11:20 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.

You're nuts. They are the world standard. There is no other, all the rest are mere pretenders.


This! If it's not Heinz, it's crap. (And I will punch you if you try and pass me off some Hunts.)
 
2011-02-23 05:11:32 PM  

IMDWalrus: RIP, Heinz EZ Squirt. (new window)


man, what the hell happened to X-E? It used to be awesome. Now it's not even updated on anything resembling a regular basis.
 
2011-02-23 05:12:50 PM  

wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.


You can't squeeze it.

I mean, you can, but it won't make the ketchup come out any faster.
 
2011-02-23 05:14:16 PM  

Shenanigans!


wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.

You can't squeeze it.

I mean, you can, but it won't make the ketchup come out any faster.


It will if you squeeze hard enough, but that introduces a whole raft of other issues.
 
2011-02-23 05:15:20 PM  
MythDragon
Adolf Oliver Nipples: gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.

You're nuts. They are the world standard. There is no other, all the rest are mere pretenders.

This! If it's not Heinz, it's crap. (And I will punch you if you try and pass me off some Hunts.)


both of those
 
2011-02-23 05:19:25 PM  

gopher321: Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.


www.mylespaul.com

And this:

Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're nuts. They are the world standard. There is no other, all the rest are mere pretenders.


And this:

MythDragon: If it's not Heinz, it's crap. (And I will punch you if you try and pass me off some Hunts.)

 
2011-02-23 05:24:03 PM  
How is it after all these years, people still don't know the proper way to extract ketchup from a glass bottle? They'll sit there for 5 minutes just shaking the damn thing like an idiot and tapping the bottom. Then they sit there all amazed that it takes me 2 seconds to get the same amount of ketchup out. Really? Have you gone through 30+ years of your life and never been told by some know-it-all douche that you're supposed to chop the "57" on the side of the neck?

/self-nominated know-it-all douche of the thread
//apply ketchup bottle directly to forehead
 
2011-02-23 05:27:39 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: man, what the hell happened to X-E? It used to be awesome. Now it's not even updated on anything resembling a regular basis.


Matt went out and got a job. :(

The site is still pretty solid when it does update, but outside of the Christmas and Halloween binges, those updates are few and far between. And it's been that way for a few years - that article box on the front page? Two from 2010, then jumps to 2007...and then most of the content after that is from 2004 and 2005.

I used to love the site. Still do, but I wish he didn't neglect it so much.
 
2011-02-23 05:31:37 PM  

need4mospd: How is it after all these years, people still don't know the proper way to extract ketchup from a glass bottle?


I don't care because I don't use ketchup?

I got no dog in this fight.
 
2011-02-23 05:35:30 PM  

wee: The "PlantBottle" is made from 30% plant-based resin. Which are grown with fertilizer. Which is made from fossil hydrocarbons.


And is full of ketchup. Which is just crappy tomatoes and corn. Both grown with fertilizer. Which is made from fossil hydrocarbons.
 
2011-02-23 05:36:34 PM  

need4mospd: How is it after all these years, people still don't know the proper way to extract ketchup from a glass bottle? They'll sit there for 5 minutes just shaking the damn thing like an idiot and tapping the bottom. Then they sit there all amazed that it takes me 2 seconds to get the same amount of ketchup out. Really? Have you gone through 30+ years of your life and never been told by some know-it-all douche that you're supposed to chop the "57" on the side of the neck?

/self-nominated know-it-all douche of the thread
//apply ketchup bottle directly to forehead


Because ketchup doesn't come in glass bottles anymore? Even most restaurants around here just refill those stubby little glass bottles. Haven't seen the full sized glass one in awhile.
 
2011-02-23 05:50:49 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, I was hoping they were bringing back green ketchup.


Are you being sarcastic?


wee: I was hoping it was a glass bottle. The "PlantBottle" is made from 30% plant-based resin. Which are grown with fertilizer. Which is made from fossil hydrocarbons.

What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.


Until it breaks.


WhyteRaven74: air_wx: Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.

Also there's breakage to deal with. Glass bottles break far more often than plastic ones.


Um, yeah, that.
 
2011-02-23 05:50:55 PM  
That green ketchup was sold by Burgerking for a while... and it was AWFUL. Damn glad it isn't coming back.
 
2011-02-23 05:51:18 PM  
Real tomato ketchup, Eddie?

2.bp.blogspot.com

Oh, nothing but the best!
 
2011-02-23 06:03:56 PM  

wee: air_wx: Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.

Versus transporting the oil, power used in fractionation and production of the fertilizer, transporting it, operating machinery to fertilize the crops?


Yes, actually.
 
2011-02-23 06:07:29 PM  
Coca-cola was originally green.

/Uncle John's taught me that.
 
2011-02-23 06:18:28 PM  

Jamdug!: Coca-cola was originally green.

/Uncle John's taught me that.


packaged in slightly green bottles
 
2011-02-23 06:19:45 PM  

burncheese: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.

Until it breaks.


Yeah, it will be helpful when they've finally figured out how to recycle that broken glass too.
 
2011-02-23 06:22:32 PM  
I make my own ketchup, so I'm getting a kick out of these arguments about which corporate chemical factory makes the best corn syrup-based glop.

An oil-use comparison of glass v. plastic would be interesting. I'm betting on glass, especially if you refill the bottles. The transportation cost is a major issue, though, assuming you bottle all the ketchup in giant factories and ship it (rather than, I dunno, mixing some canned tomato paste at home with vinegar, spices and sugar?).
 
2011-02-23 06:23:17 PM  
A friend's mother once made meatloaf with the green ketchup.

gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.


GTFO.
 
2011-02-23 06:26:06 PM  
The new heinz natural w/ sugar instead of corn syrup is AMAZING.
 
2011-02-23 06:28:19 PM  
Will Coke please work on bringing back the little glass bottles?
 
2011-02-23 06:35:12 PM  

Leather!: Will Coke please work on bringing back the little glass bottles?


they still make them and they also sell them made with real sugar.
 
2011-02-23 06:38:37 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Leather!: Will Coke please work on bringing back the little glass bottles?

they still make them and they also sell them made with real sugar.


real sugar that is producto de mexico
 
2011-02-23 06:38:53 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Leather!: Will Coke please work on bringing back the little glass bottles?

they still make them and they also sell them made with real sugar.


Yeah, Kosher Coca Cola and Mexican Coca Cola still come in glass bottles, and are made with real sugar.
 
2011-02-23 06:44:45 PM  

Shenanigans!: wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.

You can't squeeze it.

I mean, you can, but it won't make the ketchup come out any faster.


It's all about the technique you use. And a butter knife. At some point all of you got lazy and too accustomed to the eazy squeezy plasticy, and now you feel guilty having to go green for something that didn't need to be green in the first goddam place.
 
2011-02-23 06:52:08 PM  
An-ti-ci-pay-shun!
An-ti-ci-pay-yay-shun!
img231.imageshack.us
It's makin' me late
Keeping me way-yay-yay-tin'
 
2011-02-23 06:55:57 PM  
FTA:
"We decided that Heinz was a great start," he said, noting the companies' consumers had many things in common


Like eating?
 
2011-02-23 06:59:03 PM  
oldebayer: I preferred the blue ketchup

Best part of the linked article? "Heinz spokesman Robin Teets..."
 
2011-02-23 07:01:16 PM  
www.post-gazette.com

It's people. Heinz ketchup bottles are made of people.
 
2011-02-23 07:35:07 PM  
FTFA: "Both men were in Boca Raton, Fla., for the Consumer Analyst Group of New York annual conference." [emphasis mine]
 
2011-02-23 07:46:35 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: An-ti-ci-pay-shun!
An-ti-ci-pay-yay-shun!

It's makin' me late
Keeping me way-yay-yay-tin'


Must have been a cold day.
 
2011-02-23 07:48:40 PM  
Dammit, subby, Heinz already went green (new window)...

/why, no, I can't find the Fark video link, I suck.
 
2011-02-23 08:12:24 PM  

nocturn: Dammit, subby, Heinz already went green (new window)...

/why, no, I can't find the Fark video link, I suck.


Even tho quite messy, I want one!!!
 
2011-02-23 08:13:48 PM  
If it actually results in less waste, I'm all for it. Oh, and there is no other acceptable ketchup - not even in recipes. Only Heinz.
 
2011-02-23 09:15:59 PM  

Shaggy0717: FTA:
"We decided that Heinz was a great start," he said, noting the companies' consumers had many things in common

Like eating?


...and eating, and eating, and eating. Then it'll be time for a light snack before lunch.
 
2011-02-23 09:41:18 PM  

gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.


Heinz is the best I've found in supermarkets. What brnd are you pouring that you prefer, and why do you prefer it?

Fat guy wants to know.
 
2011-02-23 10:34:47 PM  

Leather!: Will Coke please work on bringing back the little glass bottles?


Most stores in Mexico sell them. Aside from being reusable (which is even more environmentally friendly than recyclable or completable) the nice thing is that they're small enough that you can drink a bottle in one sitting without feeling nasty later on.
 
2011-02-23 11:31:01 PM  
Wasn't the old plastic already made out of really old plants?
 
2011-02-23 11:37:48 PM  

BradleyUffner: Wasn't the old plastic already made out of really old plants?


There's actually quite a bit of debate on this matter. It is apparently within the bounds of possibility that hydrocarbons may have an abiotic origin. Something about crude hydrocarbons being present on Titan and other celestial bodies where there have been no plants.

/wait, did you really want to know or were you just making a joke?
//I have a great sense of humor. Too bad it's only a sense.
 
2011-02-24 12:25:09 AM  
blogs.villagevoice.com

Sauces. Like Highlander, there can only be one.
 
2011-02-24 01:30:07 AM  
I will not patronize any resturant that serves Hunts!

/Heinz only
//Hear that eatery owners/managers
///Do not like John Kerry
 
2011-02-24 03:49:01 AM  

piltdown: burncheese: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.

Until it breaks.

Yeah, it will be helpful when they've finally figured out how to recycle that broken glass too.


You'd think with all these automatic sorting machines, they'd find a way to use the broken glass. Then again, maybe not. In my city, you can't put plastic friggin bags in the recycle bins because they clog the machines. Most grocery stores have bins for collecting used bags, but most people can't be bothered to take them back.

/recycles as much as possible
//don't they have to break the glass to recycle it anyway?
 
2011-02-24 05:45:44 AM  

KrispyKritter: gopher321: I'll stick with their chili sauce. Their ketchup (catsup?) is awful.

Heinz is the best I've found in supermarkets. What brnd are you pouring that you prefer, and why do you prefer it?

Fat guy wants to know.


www.catsupbottle.com
 
2011-02-24 10:40:26 AM  

air_wx: wee: What the hell is wrong with a regular glass bottle? It's just silica, and completely recyclable.

The weight of glass makes it more expensive to transport to the stores and then transport to a recycling plant. Transporting all that extra weight requires more energy which creates more air pollution.


Plus more cleanups in aisle 4 when someone drops a bottle.
 
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